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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:22 am

Any idea when BA's 777 LN 1667 is entering FAL
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:38 pm

Opus99 wrote:
Any idea when BA's 777 LN 1667 is entering FAL

It's probably at the " parts arriving " stage now, and given the current production rate, enter FAL towards the end of July.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:03 pm

747classic wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Can someone advise where the BA 777’s are at?


BA may even consider not to accept these four operational leased 777-300ER aircraft from Novus , after a comparison between the amount of penalty payment and the actual lease rate over X years.
In the upcoming years there will probably a reduced demand for long range passenger traffic.

The order, announced during the Farnborough Airshow in 2018, represents Novus’ first direct order with a manufacturer at a list price of $1.4bn. Scheduled for delivery in 2020, the four long-range wide-body twin-engine aircraft will be leased to a leading European carrier once operational.
See : https://www.novus.aero/news/182


There may be some 2+2=5 speculation going on here as the first 3x BA frames don't show any reference to Novus. They show Saqr Aviation Holding Limited, leased to British Airways. The 4th frame has a different tab number range which suggests it's a separate unrelated order although I've yet to make deeper enquiries about it.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 pm

RobK wrote:
747classic wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Can someone advise where the BA 777’s are at?


BA may even consider not to accept these four operational leased 777-300ER aircraft from Novus , after a comparison between the amount of penalty payment and the actual lease rate over X years.
In the upcoming years there will probably a reduced demand for long range passenger traffic.

The order, announced during the Farnborough Airshow in 2018, represents Novus’ first direct order with a manufacturer at a list price of $1.4bn. Scheduled for delivery in 2020, the four long-range wide-body twin-engine aircraft will be leased to a leading European carrier once operational.
See : https://www.novus.aero/news/182


There may be some 2+2=5 speculation going on here as the first 3x BA frames don't show any reference to Novus. They show Saqr Aviation Holding Limited, leased to British Airways. The 4th frame has a different tab number range which suggests it's a separate unrelated order although I've yet to make deeper enquiries about it.

Was able to get access to Cirium fleet analyser and they are all under Novus. MUFG provided financing for all 4 for novus to purchase outright and then lease onto BA.

Arrival for G-STBM to G-STBP is September to December. One a month

I’ve also confirmed with BA insiders that they’re very much expecting the frames.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:33 am

DHL 777F D-AALP made her first (B1) flight with callsign BOE273 at July 7th 2020, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE ... /KPAE/KPAE

For pictures see Matt Cawby's Paine Field blog of July 7th, see : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2020/07/paine- ... uly-7.html

Detailed picture : http://www.paineairport.com/kpae18487u.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1661 C/N 66086 B777F D-AALP DHL/AEROLOGIC (WF273)
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:11 am

China Southern 77W B-20E7 test flight at PAE (6 Jul)

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https://twitter.com/KPAE_Spotter/status ... 58497?s=20
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:20 pm

CIs 6 777s due 2020-2023. they have already paid 241 million as of Sept 2019
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https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en/Im ... -38445.pdf

In July and August 2019, the Company signed a contract with the Boeing Company to purchase three
B777F aircraft and exercised the option to purchase three B777F aircraft. The total list price of the six
aircraft is US$2,320,315 thousand, and the expected delivery period is from 2020 to 2023. As of
September 30, 2019, the list price has been paid in the amount of US$241,650 thousand (recognized as
prepayments for aircraft).
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:20 am

Are the l/n for the two KLM 77W's known yet ?
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:05 am

DHL/Aerologic 777F D-AALP arriving at PAE after a test flight (15 Jul)

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https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/12 ... 96128?s=20
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:49 am

The first 777F for AirBridgeCargo at the Everett Flight Line.

VQ-BAO, KPAE, July 23th 2020

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Original uploaded by Matt Cawby at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/12 ... 6652932096

Aircraft data (only one source, not confirmed) : L/N 1663 C/N 66625 B777F VQ-BAO AirBridgeCargo (WF288)
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:59 am

Interesting....does this mean that Boeing and Volga-Dnepr have kissed and made up over their recent on-off-on order spat ? Is l/n 1660 going to ABC as well or have Boeing sold that frame to China Cargo like 1657 ? Possible the V-D 748F order can be resurrected as well ?
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:17 pm

TC957 wrote:
Interesting....does this mean that Boeing and Volga-Dnepr have kissed and made up over their recent on-off-on order spat ? Is l/n 1660 going to ABC as well or have Boeing sold that frame to China Cargo like 1657 ? Possible the V-D 748F order can be resurrected as well ?


Both L/N 1657, N50281 (ex. VQ-BAB) and L/N 1660, N50217 (ex. VQ-BAK) have been sold to China Cargo Airlines, owned by China Eastern Airlines (51%)
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:24 pm

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=5

1667 (G-STBM) Now in FAL

User TC957 KLM does not have a LN Number yet. But delivery is scheduled for November and December 2020 for the two frames on order.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:31 pm

The Volga pictured above was sold/transferred to DAE 4 Ireland Ltd and leased to Volga-Dnepr UK for operation by Cargologicair. Can confirm the other 2 orders have both been sold to China Cargo as noted above.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:54 am

so Volga going to take just 1 unit ?
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:06 am

danipawa wrote:
so Volga going to take just 1 unit ?


Volga Dnepr UK Ltd has 6 more 777F aircraft on order according the latest Boeing Order and Delivery listing (up to and incl. June 2020)
The original order, placed at December 21th 2018, was for nine (9) aircraft.
After the controverse about the delivery of three 777F (and 1 748F), two 777F delivery positions have been sold to China Cargo Airlines and one 777F has been transferred to DAE (see RobK's reply above) and will be operated by Cargologicair , a Volga Dnepr sub-division.
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:51 pm

747classic wrote:
After the controverse about the delivery of three 777F (and 1 748F), two 777F delivery positions have been sold to China Cargo Airlines and one 777F has been transferred to DAE (see RobK's reply above) and will be operated by Cargologicair , a Volga Dnepr sub-division.


The interesting part is that Volga-Dnepr entered into a sale and lease-back agreement with DAE for three 777F which were intended to be operated by AirBridgeCargo in August 2019 (part of their 2018 Farnborough Bonanza with Boeing). I have always presumed that two of those planned DAE frames were the two subsequently rejected and re-sold to China Cargo, but it will be interesting to see if Volga-Dnepr actually takes any more 777F and if they do, if at least two are then sold to and leased-back from DAE.
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:22 am

A7-BFW, the next 777F for Qatar Airways, was ferried back from Portland (KPDX) after paint, callsign BOE283, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE ... /KPDX/KPAE



A7-BFW, KPAE, July 28th 2020



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Original uploaded by Jennifer Schuld at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/12 ... 6012049409



Aircraft data : L/N 1662 C/N 66341? B777F N5017V A7-BFW QATAR AIRWAYS (WF283)
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:25 pm

Boeing announces that 777/777X production will reduce to two per month in 2021.

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-relea ... tem=130713
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm

According to FlightGlobal one 77W delivery of AF-KLM Group will be postponed to 2021.

Four more 787s are still scheduled for delivery in 2020, although two others – due in 2021 and 2022 – are delayed to 2024, while a Boeing 777 for 2020 is being deferred to next year.


So one of the two remaining 77W for KL will not be delivered in 2020.

Air France-KLM aims to minimise fleet deferrals to keep competitiveness on track
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:33 am

Some 777 firing order updates :

L/N 1660 C/N 66624 B777F N50217 Volga-Dnepr (VQ-BAK) ntu, China Cargo Airlines ? (WF287)
L/N 1661 C/N 66086 B777F D-AALP DHL/AEROLOGIC (WF273)
L/N 1662 C/N 66341 B777F N5017V A7-BFW QATAR AIRWAYS (WF283)
L/N 1663 C/N 66625 B777F VQ-BAO DAE Lsd AirBridgeCargo (WF288)
L/N 1664 C/N 66870 B777F N5022E A7-BFX QATAR AIRWAYS (WF284)
L/N 1665 C/N 66256 B777F N5513X N846FD FEDERAL EXPRESS (WF244)
L/N 1666 C/N 66911 B777F D-ALFH LUFTHANSA CARGO (WF165)
L/N 1667 C/N xxxxx B-777-300ER G-STBM BRITISH AIRWAYS
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:19 am

Opus99 wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xPZP2NmigprVBd5dklYcFOGraAn4C8Z4W0z2TPD-eD0/edit#gid=5

1667 (G-STBM) Now in FAL

User TC957 KLM does not have a LN Number yet. But delivery is scheduled for November and December 2020 for the two frames on order.


Could KLM have postponed delivery of the 2 last 77W due to the lower passenger number, and planes they already have that are parked?
 
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Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:33 am

MBASS wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xPZP2NmigprVBd5dklYcFOGraAn4C8Z4W0z2TPD-eD0/edit#gid=5

1667 (G-STBM) Now in FAL

User TC957 KLM does not have a LN Number yet. But delivery is scheduled for November and December 2020 for the two frames on order.


Could KLM have postponed delivery of the 2 last 77W due to the lower passenger number, and planes they already have that are parked?

Thats most likely the reason why

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