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Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:14 pm
by carlokiii
I would presume that an increase in cruise speed would entail more work than is sensible for Boeing... A difference of a Mach 0.01 in cruise speed is purely for marketing purposes anyway. For London to Sydney, that equates to just around 13 minutes less cruise time at 35,000ft.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:15 pm
by CCA
Possibly the first cockpit photo.

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Photo by: @mikeysteezy (Instagram)

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:51 pm
by Opus99

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:57 pm
by Noshow
Why is Boeing so shy about 777X pictures?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:09 pm
by Stitch
Noshow wrote:
Why is Boeing so shy about 777X pictures?


Internally there is not much to see - the cabin is full of engineering stations and ballast tanks.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:55 pm
by Noshow
It's a billion dollar program with customers all over the world. Why not share the progress on the program?
Is this again about the FAA and not putting anybody under pressure?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:00 pm
by Stitch
Noshow wrote:
It's a billion dollar program with customers all over the world. Why not share the progress on the program? Is this again about the FAA and not putting anybody under pressure?


Almost assuredly not the latter.

It's just how Boeing does these things. The 787 and 737MAX flight test and certification programs were similar - Boeing issued press releases as milestones were reached, but did not spam their social media platform every day with updates.

You can be sure the customers are being kept in the loop, just privately and under NDA.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:02 pm
by CriticalPoint
Noshow wrote:
Why is Boeing so shy about 777X pictures?


It’s a 777 with a 787 flight deck. What would you like to see?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:07 pm
by CX747
Cockpit looks like a nice future office. I bet a few guys I know at British Airways will enjoy their last few years on the 747-400 and then enjoy the transition to the 779.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:14 pm
by Noshow
So they built the world's biggest twin and feel bored about their own program and flight test news? This can't be true?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:48 pm
by ikolkyo
Noshow wrote:
So they built the world's biggest twin and feel bored about their own program and flight test news? This can't be true?


I don’t understand why you’re so desperate for news every single day. It’s an upgraded 777 with new engines, wing and cockpit. Boeing is approaching this no different than any other program. They will share milestones and etc but they’re not going to be all over social media blowing up about the test program. There is currently only 1 test aircraft flying and it hasn’t even flown 10 times yet. Patience.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:17 pm
by Noshow
Because it just had it's first flight? I mean aren't we all aviation enthusiasts? Why do I have to justify my interest in some aviation forum?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:53 pm
by Opus99
Noshow wrote:
Because it just had it's first flight? I mean aren't we all aviation enthusiasts? Why do I have to justify my interest in some aviation forum?

I mean if you need information that bad you can go to Boeing field and ask. Jheez. Give it a rest

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:31 am
by Spetsnaz55
Literally just flew over my house on its approach to Seattle. Sucks I looked up kinda late but still what a Beauty.

Image

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:06 am
by bikerthai
Noshow wrote:
So they built the world's biggest twin and feel bored about their own program and flight test news?


Boeing management is not much into Twitter. You don't want to listen to them on social media.

The company does a better job of puting out slick videos of their product. But it does take time to edit them. Just look how long it took just to get the internal first flight out.

bt

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:43 am
by WoodysAeroimag
N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 - Passing over Paine Field on its way back to Boeing Field today.

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:54 am
by VirginFlyer
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 - Passing over Paine Field on its way back to Boeing Field today.

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Awesome photos! Thank you for sharing!

V/F

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:10 am
by ikolkyo
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 - Passing over Paine Field on its way back to Boeing Field today.

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr



Absolutely beautiful shots, thanks for sharing.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:42 am
by Noshow
Great shots. Thanks. Forget those old grumps.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:08 am
by waly777
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 - Passing over Paine Field on its way back to Boeing Field today.

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

ImageN779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr



Beautiful! Simply beautiful photos!

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:43 am
by Noshow
The wing looks very different from both 787 and 777-300ER.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:54 am
by Opus99
The wings are extremely long. Absolutely love it

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:27 am
by Guillaume787
Oh wow! Those photos are stunning! Those engines paired with those wings! :hyper:

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:12 pm
by xwb777
Any idea when will Emirates receive its first B779?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:02 pm
by keesje
Great photo's :bigthumbsup: It's huge.

“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”


777 DERIVATIVE
Boeing says it intends to certify the 777X as a 777 variant, not an entirely new aircraft.

That could enable the 777X to take “credit” for some validation work performed by the first-generation 777, though the extent of the 777X’s updates likely mean such credit would be limited, says Lemme, who himself participated in flight tests for several Boeing commercial aircraft.


https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 88.article

If I had to give a best estimate IES: late 2021, early 2022.

~ 1 year-15 months for flights tests.
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.
....,stemming from the international JATR recommendations on aircraft certification.https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/10/1 ... trols-faa/

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:17 pm
by nycbjr
keesje wrote:
Great photo's :bigthumbsup: It's huge.

“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”


777 DERIVATIVE
Boeing says it intends to certify the 777X as a 777 variant, not an entirely new aircraft.

That could enable the 777X to take “credit” for some validation work performed by the first-generation 777, though the extent of the 777X’s updates likely mean such credit would be limited, says Lemme, who himself participated in flight tests for several Boeing commercial aircraft.


https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 88.article

If I had to give a best estimate IES: late 2021, early 2022.

~ 1 year-15 months for flights tests.
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.
....,stemming from the international JATR recommendations on aircraft certification.https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/10/1 ... trols-faa/


If they were able to certify the original 777 is less than 12 months, why couldn't do the same thing here even if they decide to re-certify instead of grandfathering? Are there that many new things since 1995? Why can't they add more aircraft to the program to speed that stuff up? I don't get the hate here. I'll admit I haven't read the JATR report so maybe its adding a bunch more items to the certification regime.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:23 pm
by Boeingphan
Wow those wings and engine integration looks stunning from the underside. Also looks like the fairings are super clean looking from Woody's images. Thanks for sharing those pics.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:31 pm
by par13del
keesje wrote:
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.
....,stemming from the international JATR recommendations on aircraft certification.https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/10/1 ... trols-faa/

Remind me again where I can find articles and or documentation where regulators around the world have decided to make the JTAR recommendations "law" and or mandatory?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:18 pm
by WIederling
par13del wrote:
keesje wrote:
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.
....,stemming from the international JATR recommendations on aircraft certification.https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/10/1 ... trols-faa/

Remind me again where I can find articles and or documentation where regulators around the world have decided to make the JTAR recommendations "law" and or mandatory?

Make an overstatement and argue from there. ( Schopenhauer #?? )

You are aware that the FAA lost quite a bit of standing across their global peers?

JTAR recommendation are the condensation of international authorities ( not excluding the US ) thinking
and how they view FAA past activities.

I'd be surprised if these "recommendations" have no impact on the process.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:51 pm
by par13del
WIederling wrote:
JTAR recommendation are the condensation of international authorities ( not excluding the US ) thinking
and how they view FAA past activities.

I'd be surprised if these "recommendations" have no impact on the process.

So I will repeat the question, point me to the article where the world's regulators have stated that the JTAR recommendations are now their required "law" and or mandates?

Posters are talking about delays to current aircraft certification related to the JTAR recommendations when the regulators have not stated that they are now mandatory.
Certification may or will change, I pity the first OEM who decides to go off the reservation and implement their own adjustments before official guidance has been provided.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:53 pm
by par13del
WIederling wrote:
You are aware that the FAA lost quite a bit of standing across their global peers?

Yes, and those same world regulators are silly enough to publicly state that they are working with the FAA, does make you wonder why they are lowering themselves to the level of the FAA.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:11 pm
by keesje
nycbjr wrote:
keesje wrote:
Great photo's :bigthumbsup: It's huge.

“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”


777 DERIVATIVE
Boeing says it intends to certify the 777X as a 777 variant, not an entirely new aircraft.

That could enable the 777X to take “credit” for some validation work performed by the first-generation 777, though the extent of the 777X’s updates likely mean such credit would be limited, says Lemme, who himself participated in flight tests for several Boeing commercial aircraft.


https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 88.article

If I had to give a best estimate IES: late 2021, early 2022.

~ 1 year-15 months for flights tests.
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.
....,stemming from the international JATR recommendations on aircraft certification.https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/10/1 ... trols-faa/


If they were able to certify the original 777 is less than 12 months, why couldn't do the same thing here even if they decide to re-certify instead of grandfathering? Are there that many new things since 1995? Why can't they add more aircraft to the program to speed that stuff up? I don't get the hate here. I'll admit I haven't read the JATR report so maybe its adding a bunch more items to the certification regime.


There are a few differences with the 77W certification basis:
- new composite wing, dimensions, tips
- new engines, engine pylon
- new landing gear
- new control, fuel system etc.
- new fuselage (bigger windows, door locations, lenght, ribs)
- tail bigger surfaces , new vertical stabilizer
- new cockpit 787 style

FAA accepting the 77W as certification bases showed a surprizing flexibility. The JATR (FAA, EASA, CAA, etc.) recommends against this approach. Lufthansa is launching customer, EASA approves 777x for service.

? No hate, sticking to the rules after cutting corners with many victims. The CEO is out for not understanding, setting the right priorities, putting on pressure.

The airlines indicate they want a thouroughly certified aircraft. That can be done. But takes time.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:15 pm
by Opus99
I mean, the 350 took about a year to certify as a new aircraft (from first flight). Why will this take two years? I’m really confused even with these recommendations which don’t seem extremely specific. Ultimately I think they said the certification process is fine but it just needs some improvements. Also, my given the differences by optimistic prediction is Q2 2021.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:18 pm
by par13del
keesje wrote:
FAA accepting the 77W as certification bases showed a surprizing flexibility. The JATR (FAA, EASA, CAA, etc.) recommends against this approach. Lufthansa is launching customer, EASA approves 777x for service.

? No hate, sticking to the rules after cutting corners with many victims. The CEO is out for not understanding, setting the right priorities, putting on pressure.

The airlines indicate they want a thouroughly certified aircraft. That can be done. But takes time.

So to be clear, you are comparing grandfathering of a FBW a/c to another FBW a/c with the 737NG a non-FBW a/c to the 737MAX another non-FBW a/c?
Ok, understood.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:21 pm
by Stitch
Anything "new" or "changed" on the 777X compared to previous 777 family members will need to undergo new certification under existing FAA procedures. They cannot be "grandfathered in" or "conveniently ignored".

JATR's recommendations are just that, recommendations. If and when they are incorporated into the formal certification process (in whole or in part) will be at a future date agreed upon by the various major certification bodies and likely the ICAO. If the suggestion is they should be retroactively applied to the 777X to "ensure maximum safety", then we should then pull the airworthiness certificates for the 787, A350, A330neo and A320neo and make them all go through them, as well, before those certificates are re-approved to ensure they are also "as safe as safe can be".

EASA is on record saying they will concurrently certify the 777X with the FAA. To my understanding, that means that their own staff will review the test results with the FAA staff and sign-off on them, but I have heard nothing stating that they have their own unique certification plan that Boeing will have to follow in addition to the FAA's. If they do have such a plan, then it has already been communicated to Boeing and their testing protocols would have been modified to take them into account. That Boeing has not said anything about an extended certification requirement from EASA (or any other regulatory agency) is strong implication such a requirement does not exist as it would have a material impact on Boeing financials which they would be required to state.

Emirates says they want an extended test campaign, which is different from an extended certification campaign. Boeing and Emirates will work that out between themselves using customer frame(s).

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:22 pm
by WIederling
par13del wrote:
WIederling wrote:
JTAR recommendation are the condensation of international authorities ( not excluding the US ) thinking
and how they view FAA past activities.

I'd be surprised if these "recommendations" have no impact on the process.

So I will repeat the question, point me to the article where the world's regulators have stated that the JTAR recommendations are now their required "law" and or mandates?

Posters are talking about delays to current aircraft certification related to the JTAR recommendations when the regulators have not stated that they are now mandatory.
Certification may or will change, I pity the first OEM who decides to go off the reservation and implement their own adjustments before official guidance has been provided.


I'd like to repeat my observation:
Make an overstatement and argue from there. ( Schopenhauer #?? )

laws and mandates did not change ( your thesis )
But
what has changed is the process of conformance checking.
waivers will be frowned upon. If FAA does not do the frowning under JTAR "guidance"
the other cert authorities will do the frowning. ( and potentially deny certification.)

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:43 pm
by par13del
WIederling wrote:
I'd like to repeat my observation:
Make an overstatement and argue from there. ( Schopenhauer #?? )

I repeat, point me to where the recommendations have been made into requirements, Keesje said it you seem to double down on it.
WIederling wrote:
laws and mandates did not change ( your thesis )
But
what has changed is the process of conformance checking.
waivers will be frowned upon. If FAA does not do the frowning under JTAR "guidance"
the other cert authorities will do the frowning. ( and potentially deny certification.)

How does Boeing address that, has the FAA put that frowning into writing so that Boeing will not be denied certification?
Or do you believe that only Boeing has to provide documentation for others to follow? Even EASA had the decency to put their MAX requirements down on paper

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:08 pm
by keesje
par13del wrote:
I repeat, point me to where the recommendations have been made into requirements, Keesje said it you seem to double down on it.


Par13del, point out where I said that.

“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”

“The certification process is a new one and it’s going to get applied to every next airplane,” Calhoun said. “We have a lot of planning to do around the 777X, et cetera, to make sure that we can accommodate a really thorough review and investigation. It’s just the way it’s going to be.”

I agree with Boeing.

There is a new process, unlike the 737MAX process. Lessons learned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-737- ... ge=1&pos=1

No use looking the other way & hope it goes away. I'm confident a safety first certification approach will be followed by Boeing and authorities. Things changed.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:42 pm
by ER757
Opus99 wrote:
I mean, the 350 took about a year to certify as a new aircraft (from first flight). Why will this take two years? I’m really confused even with these recommendations which don’t seem extremely specific. Ultimately I think they said the certification process is fine but it just needs some improvements. Also, my given the differences by optimistic prediction is Q2 2021.

This.....agree 100%
Not sure how our Dutch friend conflates things to:
~ 1 year-15 months for flights tests.
~ 2 Years to rework, satisfying EASA, Emirates, Japanese concerns on grandfathering design and certification on a mostly new aircraft.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:59 pm
by par13del
keesje wrote:
“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”

“The certification process is a new one and it’s going to get applied to every next airplane,” Calhoun said. “We have a lot of planning to do around the 777X, et cetera, to make sure that we can accommodate a really thorough review and investigation. It’s just the way it’s going to be.”

I agree with Boeing.

There is a new process, unlike the 737MAX process. Lessons learned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-737- ... ge=1&pos=1

No use looking the other way & hope it goes away. I'm confident a safety first certification approach will be followed by Boeing and authorities. Things changed.

You then took quotes from the CEO to add how many years to the 777X certification?
The head of the FAA told the previous head of Boeing to shut up, after the current head gave his investors the timeline of summer the head of the FAA repeated his demand then rose Boeing shares by saying RTS may be sooner, he repeated that in the UK with the same result.
Now you are taking the words of the head of Boeing as if he is the one setting the new certification requirements? So back to Boeing self certifying?
Boeing screwed up its risk analysis, they have a lot of work to do to regain trust. The FAA screwed up their oversight, they have to provide details on their new certification process if and when they are ready to roll it out, until that happens, we are all speculating, at least some of us waiting for details versus running off the reservation.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:03 am
by iamlucky13
keesje wrote:
par13del wrote:
I repeat, point me to where the recommendations have been made into requirements, Keesje said it you seem to double down on it.


Par13del, point out where I said that.

“We’re taking the lessons learned from the 737 Max and applying them to the 777X to ensure we are as prepared as possible for 777X certification,” Boeing says. “Given the unknowns around development programmes, as well as the certification process, we do not want to be overly specific about hours of testing or timing.”

“The certification process is a new one and it’s going to get applied to every next airplane,” Calhoun said. “We have a lot of planning to do around the 777X, et cetera, to make sure that we can accommodate a really thorough review and investigation. It’s just the way it’s going to be.”

I agree with Boeing.

There is a new process, unlike the 737MAX process. Lessons learned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-737- ... ge=1&pos=1

No use looking the other way & hope it goes away. I'm confident a safety first certification approach will be followed by Boeing and authorities. Things changed.


That does not explain a forecast for 2 years of rework. It may indeed mean some requirements are not accepted as met based on the existing planned tests, but it also does not mean major new design requirements that Boeing is unaware of and would as a result need to perform extensive rework in order to comply with.

That said, the 12-15 month test program you forecast isn't really in contention. It's basically the baseline schedule.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:15 am
by Jefford717
What will be the cabin pressure of the 777X on cruise? 8,000 feet like all other 777s or 6,000 feet like the 787s?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:54 am
by ikolkyo
Jefford717 wrote:
What will be the cabin pressure of the 777X on cruise? 8,000 feet like all other 777s or 6,000 feet like the 787s?


Same as the 787

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:17 am
by CCA
Thought I read recently planned certification by years end and deliveries begin first quarter 2021.

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:22 pm
by qf789
Keep the thread on topic. Its about the 777X testing and production not about the 737MAX. Users actually come here to see how the aircraft in performing in testing and its a bit hard to follow it with the mindless blather that has been posted in this thread in the past 24 hours

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:49 pm
by Opus99
WH001 out on the eight test flight. I mean it’s now become a daily affair. Love it

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 pm
by SDL
Seems like she’s about to land in Spokane. Why would they land there?

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:20 pm
by Opus99
SDL wrote:
Seems like she’s about to land in Spokane. Why would they land there?

Yesterday’s flight test was scheduled for Spokane but they did a regression test instead. I’m not particularly sure what the purpose of this test is but I just know it’s a test

EDIT: it’s a go around test

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:22 pm
by SDL
It was a low flyby, nice... hope we will see some photos of it

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:42 pm
by SDL
And then took a lap and landed

SDL wrote:
It was a low flyby, nice... hope we will see some photos of it