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DJSNOLA
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:55 am

Looks like they have started work on dismantling the hotel for the offramp


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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:28 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
A list of all food/retail closures at the airport at the current time...

1. Heritage School of Music
2. Munch Factory
3. Cure
4. Angelo Brocato’s
5. Dylan’s Candy Bar
6. Nola Couture
7. Brighton
8. Fleurty Girl
9. Bourbon Sweets
10. Dirty Coast

Reduced hours for many places not outright closed.


MSY is a ghost town now, only makes sense for a few basic establishments to stay open. One thing is for certain, when this is over, MSY should be right sized for a while at 35 gates because getting back to where we were will take some time.

I believe however, that domestic tourism will rebound in a much bigger way than international tourism in the next 3-5 years. That would bode well for MSY.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:22 am

SNN707 wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
A list of all food/retail closures at the airport at the current time...

1. Heritage School of Music
2. Munch Factory
3. Cure
4. Angelo Brocato’s
5. Dylan’s Candy Bar
6. Nola Couture
7. Brighton
8. Fleurty Girl
9. Bourbon Sweets
10. Dirty Coast

Reduced hours for many places not outright closed.


MSY is a ghost town now, only makes sense for a few basic establishments to stay open. One thing is for certain, when this is over, MSY should be right sized for a while at 35 gates because getting back to where we were will take some time.

I believe however, that domestic tourism will rebound in a much bigger way than international tourism in the next 3-5 years. That would bode well for MSY.


Domestic should bounce back quickly if this is over in the next few weeks. We have three Summer trips booked already. International may take a bit longer, but hopefully be back up by the Fall assuming the shutdown ends in a few weeks. Of course, there is a limit to how long the shutdown can last before the negatives vastly outweigh the benefits.

Working on December and September load factors, so they should be posted in the next couple of days. Still waiting on official 2019 tally from the airport as well.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:39 pm

Well the Fall is shaping up to be quite epic in New Orleans so I think we will see a rebound here rather quickly, but the cruise industry will be decimated for a very long time. especially the larger cruise ships, I think the riverine cruise ships will weather this better.

This may be the catalyst for a reversal in the size of cruise ships to go smaller too.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:40 pm

DL announced they are parking 600 aircraft and will consolidate multiple daily narrowbody flights into fewer widebody services.

The above also will support DL (and IAG'/AC/DY/others) plans to make pax aircraft available for cargo charters. However, all DL planes are available for cargo charters, incl the 717.

Also, almost all SkyClubs will be closed.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:12 am

JW, what is everyone's prognosis on what the aviation world will look like after this crisis?

My guess: Survivors = WN, DL. Maybe = NK, UA. Everyone else = looks bad, consolidation most likely.

Once the MAX is recertified - probably around the time the virus begins to wane - WN will be able to take all of the stored aircraft and retire a lot of older airframes. It will be smaller, but stands a good chance of becoming profitable a lot earlier. DL is well, DL. They are well placed to ride this out. They also can retire a lot of older planes.

The big IF is if business flying returns to prior levels. The success ppl have had telecommuting could really affect this.

Leisure flying will rebound much quicker. Ppl will be antsy to travel and see relatives. MSY IMHO will probably rebound faster that business oriented airports with the LCCs and ULCCs leading the way.

Make no mistake about it, the salad days are over for a while. Our new terminal now is right sized for the next 5-10 years, we should be OK per capacity.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:24 am

December and Annual 2019 domestic and September 2019 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

International load factor for all carriers in September was 76.0%. Passenger traffic fell by -1.3% and seat count fell by -6.1% resulting in a 3.7% increase in load factor year over year. DE had the biggest drop in passengers and load factor as the flying season ended earlier than the previous year.

September International route seat count(%change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change)

Airline............Seats.............................Pax..........................LF
AC................4,560(+1.7%).................3,735(+15.7%).......81.9%(+9.9%)
BA................8,560(-7.1%)..................6,290(-2.8%)..........73.5%(+3.2%)
CM...............4,092(-4.3%)..................2,839(-5.8%)..........69.4%(-1.1%)
DE................3,486(-14.5%)................2,860(-11.1%)........82.0%(+3.1%)

Domestically in December, airport-wide seat count grew by 5.3%, and pax traffic increased by 10.0% resulting in a 3.5% increase in load factors to 82.5%. WN's MSY-LGA route had the best loads of the month at 93.4%. NK's MSY-BNA route had the worst loads of the month at 54.5%. AA started service to PHX and a excellent loads of 87.7%.

December and Annual Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline..............Dec.Seats......................Dec. Pax..................Dec..LF....................Annual Seats.................Annual Pax...............Annual LF
AS................31,114(+55.5%)............25.905(+59.9%).......83.3%(+2.3%).............305,977(+45.4%)...........253,328(+40.5)........82.8%(-2.9%)
AA..............212,497(+2.0%).............172,679(+3.3%)........81.3%(+1.0%)...........2,545,453(+6.5%)..........2,063,055(+4.6%)......81.1%(-1.8%)
B6................37,110(-5.7%)...............31,209(-0.8%)..........84.1%(+4.2%).............497,516(-0.9%)..............402,890(-1.7%)........81.0%(-0.8%)
DL..............232,517(+7.5%).............196,174(+11.9%)......84.4%(+3.3%)...........2,686,258(+5.1%)..........2,260,868(+4.4%)......84.2%(-0.6%)
F9................28,634(-28.3%)..............24,400(-24.8%).......85.2%(+3.9%).............410,212(-7.9%)..............338,246(-8.8%)........82.5%(-0.9%)
G4................13,602(+71.4%).............9,715(+66.7%)........71.4%(-4.5%).............149,610(-20.3%)............110,468(-24.4%).......73.8%(-5.2%)
NK..............175,411(+35.0%)..........142,960(+37.2%).......81.5%(+1.3%)..........2,110,120(+22.4%)........1,676,305(+21.1%).....79.4%(-1.1%)
SY..................3,519(-41.8%)...............2,572(-21.8%)........73.1%(+18.7%)............46,983(+157.4%)...........32,021(+192.9%)....68.2%(+13.8%)
UA..............174.266(-2.9%)............146,265(+5.4%)..........83.9%(+6.6%)..........2,037,263(+4.2%).........1,677,449(+0.5%).......81.9%(-3.6%)
WN.............519,713(+2.7%)............426,346(+8.0%).........82.0%(+4.0%)..........6,240,061(+3.9%).........4,903,172(+1.9%).......78.6%(-2.0%)

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:27 am

SNN707 wrote:
The success ppl have had telecommuting could really affect this.

History (market downturns of 2001 and 2008) tell us that that's exactly what's going to happen, and such technology has significantly improved since either time frame.

The only question that remains, is to what percentage/extent will the effect be.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:24 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
SNN707 wrote:
The success ppl have had telecommuting could really affect this.

History (market downturns of 2001 and 2008) tell us that that's exactly what's going to happen, and such technology has significantly improved since either time frame.

The only question that remains, is to what percentage/extent will the effect be.


Obviously it will affect aviation, but real estate markets as well, in that big office buildings may well be a thing of the past, going the way of brick and mortar stores. Also new home construction may begin to feature purpose built home offices in the home or in garages that provide more separation than working in a study, bedroom, etc.

Less commuting means less fuel use, less demand for 2nd cars, public transport and such. The ripple effects will large and complicated.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:36 am

UK CAA stats are out for February.

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/CAA/Content/Standard_Content/Data_and_analysis/Datasets/Airport_stats/Airport_data_2020_02/Table_12_1_Intl_Air_Pax_Traffic_Route_Analysis.pdf

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 74.6% in February. There were 6,708 pax flying on an estimated 8,988 offered seats. Last year, the load factor was 73.2% with 6,265 pax flying on an estimated 8,560 offered seats. Pax count increased by 7.1% year over year.

All seat estimations for MSY, PIT, BNA, and BWI are based on 788 seat count. SJC is based on 789 seat count. SJC had 6 cancelled flights and BWI had one.

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station........Feb. Seat........Feb. Pax..........Feb. LF.......YTD Seats.......YTD Pax......YTD LF
MSY................8,988..............6,708.............74.6%...........18,404.............13,942........75.8%
BWI..............11,984...............6,853.............57.2%...........25,252.............18,882........74.8%
BNA................8,988..............5,645.............62.8%...........17,976.............11,735........65.3%
SJC.................9,936..............5,905.............59.4%...........23.328.............14,760........63.3%
PIT..................6,848..............3,377..............49.3%...........14,522..............8,213........56.4%
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:48 am

Good to see it performing as the best of the bunch for a while.... but pretty much all pre-March data is out of the window, at this point.

I'm just praying that we get it back, yearround, at any frequency by year's end.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:45 am

Looks like the Condor-LOT is about to fall apart and the German govt may nationalize DE. Wow.

https://www.airlive.net/breaking-the-ge ... r-airline/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:56 pm

https://www.waterwaysjournal.net/2020/0 ... uise-boat/

Despite trying times, Viking releases renderings and ship info. Look for domestic river cruising to expand, as ppl may avoid gigantic cruise ships that sail to foreign ports. NOLA stands to be a big beneficiary of this and so does MSY.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:01 am

ET flew 4 777-200LR aircraft to MSY today to pick up Carnival Cruise line crews based out of Galveston, New Orleans, and Mobile. Mixed feelings about it. Cool to see the ET livery here, but also sad that is due to everything going on right now.

https://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=KMSY&destination=ADD

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https://youtu.be/jRASTEkph3c

(images and video shared on local spotters FB page)
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:31 pm

Lufthansa (LH) announces permanent fleet reductions in A380, B747-400, A340-600 and A320, as well as the closing of Germanwings. Article states the reasoning for LH actions but that will apply to other airlines as well. For MSY and other smaller markets, this is bad news. It looks like for a while at least, for TATL we are going back to the old days of funneling everyone to the big hubs again to cross the pond.

https://onemileatatime.com/lufthansa-retiring-a380/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:13 am

One bright-ish spot, looks like airlines are extending status through 2021.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:06 am

2 Wamos Air B744 en-route from MAD. Both are arriving after midnight and both are leaving tomorrow early evening. Unsure of destination. Presumably more cruise charters for crew.
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:02 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
2 Wamos Air B744 en-route from MAD. Both are arriving after midnight and both are leaving tomorrow early evening. Unsure of destination. Presumably more cruise charters for crew.


The first Wamos 744 is EC-KXN, recently famous for the human-powered pushback in San Pedro Sula.

https://onemileatatime.com/wamos-air-747/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:39 am

So cool to see two 744 parked at MSY. Shared from local spotters page.

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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:02 am

Can't tell if the rear one was using the gate at D-South or not...
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:30 am

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Can't tell if the rear one was using the gate at D-South or not...


No gates used. Just a weird angle. Crew were taken to the aircraft on buses and they boarded using air stairs.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:49 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Can't tell if the rear one was using the gate at D-South or not...


No gates used. Just a weird angle. Crew were taken to the aircraft on buses and they boarded using air stairs.


When the crews do eventually return in a few months - obviously from overseas - will they arrive at the NT for FIS? Or will they use old C and FIS will send some agents over there?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:31 pm

It was definitely unusual to see them. Was a nice change (given the circumstances) as lately the tarmac has been a virtual ghost town at certain times of day.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:40 am

SNN707 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Can't tell if the rear one was using the gate at D-South or not...

When the crews do eventually return in a few months - obviously from overseas - will they arrive at the NT for FIS? Or will they use old C and FIS will send some agents over there?

Would have to be A-north.

While I'm not sure if C-south has the physical capabilities to still process, the airport staff have made it more than clear that they don't intend to have a split FIS operation.

So would either have to arrive at A-north and tow, or with recent traffic levels, just stay at A.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:16 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
SNN707 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Can't tell if the rear one was using the gate at D-South or not...

When the crews do eventually return in a few months - obviously from overseas - will they arrive at the NT for FIS? Or will they use old C and FIS will send some agents over there?

Would have to be A-north.

While I'm not sure if C-south has the physical capabilities to still process, the airport staff have made it more than clear that they don't intend to have a split FIS operation.

So would either have to arrive at A-north and tow, or with recent traffic levels, just stay at A.


I hope its A- NT. Would really like to see a 747 parked (and obviously photographed) there before they're gone.

Something else I've noticed. D-South was supposed to be for charter flights, yet it seems so far that planes are just using the ramp there and not using the airbridges or the concourse itself. Has the concouse ever been used since NT?

Reportedly one of the Wamos 747s had 500 pax in it. They were bussed from somewhere direct to the airstairs to a 9hr flight to MAD. That lav situation must have been something. Use of the concourse would have provided some relief before that long flight.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:50 pm

SNN707 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
SNN707 wrote:
When the crews do eventually return in a few months - obviously from overseas - will they arrive at the NT for FIS? Or will they use old C and FIS will send some agents over there?

Would have to be A-north.

While I'm not sure if C-south has the physical capabilities to still process, the airport staff have made it more than clear that they don't intend to have a split FIS operation.

So would either have to arrive at A-north and tow, or with recent traffic levels, just stay at A.


I hope its A- NT. Would really like to see a 747 parked (and obviously photographed) there before they're gone.

Something else I've noticed. D-South was supposed to be for charter flights, yet it seems so far that planes are just using the ramp there and not using the airbridges or the concourse itself. Has the concouse ever been used since NT?

Reportedly one of the Wamos 747s had 500 pax in it. They were bussed from somewhere direct to the airstairs to a 9hr flight to MAD. That lav situation must have been something. Use of the concourse would have provided some relief before that long flight.


Even with the people flying home testing negative, there has to be some risk of a false negative test. Easiest to pick the crew members up at the port and drive them directly to the tarmac. No terminal (port or airport) to disinfect--just the busses.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:46 pm

SNN707 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
SNN707 wrote:
When the crews do eventually return in a few months - obviously from overseas - will they arrive at the NT for FIS? Or will they use old C and FIS will send some agents over there?

Would have to be A-north.

While I'm not sure if C-south has the physical capabilities to still process, the airport staff have made it more than clear that they don't intend to have a split FIS operation.

So would either have to arrive at A-north and tow, or with recent traffic levels, just stay at A.


I hope its A- NT. Would really like to see a 747 parked (and obviously photographed) there before they're gone.

Something else I've noticed. D-South was supposed to be for charter flights, yet it seems so far that planes are just using the ramp there and not using the airbridges or the concourse itself. Has the concouse ever been used since NT?

Reportedly one of the Wamos 747s had 500 pax in it. They were bussed from somewhere direct to the airstairs to a 9hr flight to MAD. That lav situation must have been something. Use of the concourse would have provided some relief before that long flight.


They used the concourse as a holding area after the crew members were screened. I drove over to check out the birds and happened to be passing by as they were dropping everyone off. It appeared as though they got screened under the concourse and then everyone made their way up into the old rotunda. I have seen the jetways used a few times, but I don’t really know why they aren’t used more often.
Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:00 pm

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Reportedly one of the Wamos 747s had 500 pax in it.

...seeing as their aircraft "only" seats 475, I'd say that report should be taken with a grain o' salt.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:10 pm

Condor (DE) - LOT deal is dead. Bad news for MSY as DE has no chance on its own. My guess the German govt will keep it going short term in order to preserve jobs but in the end Lufthansa will get them basically for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/simpleflyi ... chase/amp/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:53 pm

The airlines seem to have come to terms with the US Government on the terms of grants/loans as part of the stimulus package, which also contains funds for airports. I saw that ATL is expected to get 300+ million. Any word on what MSY might be in line for?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:42 am

Nola wrote:
The airlines seem to have come to terms with the US Government on the terms of grants/loans as part of the stimulus package, which also contains funds for airports. I saw that ATL is expected to get 300+ million. Any word on what MSY might be in line for?


I think something like $40+ mil.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:47 am

42.8 million for MSY and 8.4 million for BTR. https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... 595a3.html
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:56 am

Total non-sequitur, but booked on what may be one of my final MD-88 flight in August with DL. Flying back from DSM through ATL after visiting an old college buddy and his family. Mad dogs are by far my favorite aircraft (thus my handle), so it will be a bittersweet end to what will be a nice vacation.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:03 pm

Any updates on the taxiway project? Is that still moving forward with the new federal funding?

Also have there been additional aircraft parked at MSY? Last I saw, there were maybe 1 or 2 AA, UA and B6 aircraft at remote parking areas, but it has been a while since I've driven passed there.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:03 am

All projects are under review at this point, but no decisions have been made.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:15 am

New Orleans airport has third-most TSA agents stricken with coronavirus among U.S. airports

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/ ... db7ba.html
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:40 am

msycajun wrote:
Any updates on the taxiway project? Is that still moving forward with the new federal funding?

Also have there been additional aircraft parked at MSY? Last I saw, there were maybe 1 or 2 AA, UA and B6 aircraft at remote parking areas, but it has been a while since I've driven passed there.


I would think it to be very shortsighted to not do the Taxiway G project. Now is the time to do this kind of work while traffic is down. Its necessary for safer operations, especially when traffic ramps up again in a few years, in order to prevent runway taxi crossings.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:53 am

Nola wrote:
New Orleans airport has third-most TSA agents stricken with coronavirus among U.S. airports

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/ ... db7ba.html


This makes sense since we have the 2nd highest per capita testing rate in the nation. I wonder if they tested all of the TSA staffers like they are all of the healthcare workers

Bit of good news, is that Viking will launch cruises in 2022. They are already selling sailings, and some have sold out.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:10 am

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Bit of good news, is that Viking will launch cruises in 2022. They are already selling sailings, and some have sold out.

Let's hope it lasts.

As bad as this is and will be for the aviation industry, it's looking like it's going to be even that much worse for the cruise biz.

I'm really curious to see what that industry looks like, moving forward, on the other side of this pandemic + upcoming recession (or contraction, to be more accurate).
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:55 am

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Bit of good news, is that Viking will launch cruises in 2022. They are already selling sailings, and some have sold out.

Let's hope it lasts.

As bad as this is and will be for the aviation industry, it's looking like it's going to be even that much worse for the cruise biz.

I'm really curious to see what that industry looks like, moving forward, on the other side of this pandemic + upcoming recession (or contraction, to be more accurate).


Actually, I believe river cruising to be best situated among cruising options:
small ships, lots of open areas to spend time, domestic travel, etc. The mega ships have a big problem.

We will see.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:37 am

The airport posted December 2019 statistics. They also posted January and February 2020 data, but I will address that in subsequent posts as I need to gather data for other airports to see how we ranked first.

https://www.flymsy.com/wp-content/uploa ... r-2019.pdf,

The airport reported 1,162,996 passengers for the month. A 9% increase over December 2018. Annual numbers were up 4.0% to 13,644,666 passengers. This was the new record high for the airport. Unfortunately, that won't be broken this year. Hopefully, we'll see an upward trajectory again next year. MSY was the 38th busiest airport in the nation and remained positioned between RDU and OAK. This is the same ranking MSY had in 2018.

SY and F9 were the only airlines in December to not see year over year growth. Most airlines also saw annual growth with G4, F9, and B6 being the exception. B6 was due to capacity cuts on the FLL route. F9 and G4 are wildcards with routes ending and staring throughout the year. Neither ended the year with more routes than they started with.

Estimated international carrier load factor (December):

AC: 60.6% full outbound (MSY-YYZ) 2396 pax/3952 seats
63.9% full inbound (YYZ-MSY) 2524 pax/3952 seats
62.2% full combined 4920 pax/7904 seats

BA: 73.2% full outbound (MSY-LHR) 3445 pax/4708 seats
70.2% full inbound (LHR-MSY) 3303 pax/4708 seats
71.7% full combined 6748 pax/9416 seats

CM: 93.9% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 2096 pax/2232 seats
85.1% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1900 pax/2232 seats
89.5% full combined 3996 pax/4464 seats

TS obviously had numerous larger aircraft substitute in on the route, and an estimate could not be made for December based on the previously advertised seat count being below the deplaned passenger count. The route must have been doing well, and I hope it can eventually return.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:40 pm

MSY-LHR nonstop is still bookable for the fall on BA's site and others, so while I understand it's not a reflection of their expectant fall schedule; it still somewhat gives *some* hope that it'll come back.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:29 am

As stated in a previous post, MSY finished 2019 as the 38th busiest airport in the country ranking between RDU and OAK. The airport had the 21st highest growth rate at 3.98%, and was positioned between MSP and SEA. BNA was the fastest growing airport at 14.24% growth. MDW saw the biggest decline in growth at -5.37%.

note: no data for Hawaii, but HNL traffic figures have historically been higher than MSY.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wilkZdDGsNpCUc--0b_01joCRv5usFiAr3b31NrwYYI/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:30 am

LAX772LR wrote:
MSY-LHR nonstop is still bookable for the fall on BA's site and others, so while I understand it's not a reflection of their expectant fall schedule; it still somewhat gives *some* hope that it'll come back.


The route performed well, so hoping it made the cut.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:42 am

January 2020 statistics.

https://www.flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Airline-Statistics-January-2020.pdf

The airport reported 1,070,547 passengers in January which was a 6.9% increase over January 2019. MSY was the 35th busiest airport in the nation and was positioned between HOU and RDU.

Mixed bag for the domestic carriers in terms of growth. AS, DL, NK, UA, and WN all grew year over year, but AA, B6, G4, F9, and SY all saw declines. CM and DL were the only carriers to see a decline on the international front.

Estimated international carrier load factor (January):

AC: 66.7% full outbound (MSY-YYZ) 3141 pax/4712 seats
64.8% full inbound (YYZ-MSY) 3051 pax/4712 seats
65.7% full combined 6192 pax/9424 seats

BA: 70.5% full outbound (MSY-LHR) 3319 pax/4708 seats
80.1% full inbound (LHR-MSY) 3773 pax/4708 seats
75.3% full combined 7092 pax/9416 seats

CM: 69.8% full outbound (MSY-PTY) 1471 pax/2108 seats
77.3% full inbound (PTY-MSY) 1726 pax/2232 seats
73.7% full combined 3197 pax/4340 seats

TS: 80.3% full outbound (MSY-YUL) 1366 pax/1701 seats
81.4% full inbound (YUL-MSY) 1384 pax/1701 seats
80.8% full combined 2750 pax/3402 seats
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:58 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
MSY-LHR nonstop is still bookable for the fall on BA's site and others, so while I understand it's not a reflection of their expectant fall schedule; it still somewhat gives *some* hope that it'll come back.

The route performed well, so hoping it made the cut.

Indeed, though to be fair, BA doesn't appear to have picked any losers from LHR; all of their secondary USA routes seemed to (at least loadwise) perform quite well-- even CHS, which surprised the hell outta me, and I'm sure plenty of others.

Their LGW adds were duds, but then again, those seemed more about chasing off DY than about establishing a solid market presence.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:58 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
MSY-LHR nonstop is still bookable for the fall on BA's site and others, so while I understand it's not a reflection of their expectant fall schedule; it still somewhat gives *some* hope that it'll come back.

The route performed well, so hoping it made the cut.

Indeed, though to be fair, BA doesn't appear to have picked any losers from LHR; all of their secondary USA routes seemed to (at least loadwise) perform quite well-- even CHS, which surprised the hell outta me, and I'm sure plenty of others.

Their LGW adds were duds, but then again, those seemed more about chasing off DY than about establishing a solid market presence.


I don't see DY surviving this on their own. I can see BA putting all of their flights at LHR for a while, if the slot rules allow. I could also see IAG buying DY at a fire sale price and putting those flights at LGW, possibly merging it with LEVEL.

Just some Sunday armchair quarterbacking.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:42 pm

F9 is operating DEN->MSY->PNS->DEN on 24Apr and 01May.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:26 pm

Every now and then, someone compared the MSY NT delay to BER (Berlin) Brandenburg massive delays. Now finally after EIGHT years after basic completion, all systems have been approved and opening day is coincidentally Halloween 2020.

https://berlinspectator.com/2020/04/20/ ... airport-1/

On another note, another 747 operator (Corsair) announced the retirement of its fleet. Won't be many pax QOTS left when the carnage is over....
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:18 am

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On another note, another 747 operator (Corsair) announced the retirement of its fleet.

*sigh* Always sorta dreamed one day that they'd pour into MSY with throngs of French tourists on a scheduled weekly basis someday.... but seems that dream is more far-gone than Shangri La. :(
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