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Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:34 pm

So as its 2020 now, will Iraqi Airways get their CS300/A220 this year?
 
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Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:00 pm

Is this another yr of DAL being the customer with biggest amount delivered again?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:11 am

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Is this another yr of DAL being the customer with biggest amount delivered again?


DL got 24 in 2019, the quantity listed as the purchase commitment in the annual report from Feb. 2019. (That was actually down from 25 for '19 that had been listed in the 2/18 ann rep.) That 2/19 report called for just 12 -100s and 6 -300s for 2020; let's see if the next annual report due within five or six weeks shows things differently. DL placed an incremental order for five units in June '19, bringing the total to 95, but didn't cite a delivery window.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:22 am

My prediction is 70 deliveries for 2020, and launch of the 500
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:15 am

Can someone post the total A220 deliveries in 2019 please? Thank you
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:58 am

Did total deliveries (including prior to 2019), make a hundred?
Swiss 29
DL 28
AirBaltic 22
KE 10
Egypt Air Ex. 7
AC 2
Air Tanzania 2

https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-csr.htm

It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

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Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:58 pm

Might really be 99, as airfleets has duplicated the 1 that Air Canada has.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:19 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
Is this another yr of DAL being the customer with biggest amount delivered again?


Possibly. They are scheduled to get 18 units this year, so assuming they are all delivered:

-100s - one per month

-300s

June - 1
July - 2
August - 1
September - 2

Air Canada is second with 14 units. All -300s.

There are another 15 scheduled between several airlines and a leasing company. Air Austral, Egypt Air Express, Baltic, GTLK Leasing, Czech, Air Vanuatu, JetBlue and Swiss.

JetBlue will get their first in October for the second US operator (-300).

For 2021 it looks like 56 units globally. Air Canada has the most scheduled for 2021 right now with 15, all -300s. Delta drops to 12 units (3/100s and 9/300s). Air Baltic goes from 11 units in 2020 to 12 units in 2021.

Wouldn’t be surprised if DL exercised their options to replace the A319 fleet sometime next year. The current batch of A220s is primarily MD replacement.
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:22 pm

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It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

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They celebrated the 100th CSeries/A220 produced in November though https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... duced.html
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:31 pm

RasmusJ wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

Lightsaber


They celebrated the 100th CSeries/A220 produced in November though https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... duced.html

Produced, not delivered.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:17 pm

VV wrote:
Can someone post the total A220 deliveries in 2019 please? Thank you


Unofficially it’s 46. 21 -300 and 25 -100.

https://aibfamily.flights/statistics/A2 ... 2019-12-31
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:22 pm

bspc wrote:
VV wrote:
Can someone post the total A220 deliveries in 2019 please? Thank you


Unofficially it’s 46. 21 -300 and 25 -100.

https://aibfamily.flights/statistics/A2 ... 2019-12-31


So this time they hit the target for 45 deliveries in 2019.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:32 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Did total deliveries (including prior to 2019), make a hundred?
Swiss 29
DL 28
AirBaltic 22
KE 10
Egypt Air Ex. 7
AC 2
Air Tanzania 2

https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-csr.htm

It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

Lightsaber


I count 100 active at airlines, not counting delivered and not flown out. There are a 4 owned by a Russian lessor, State Transport Leasing Company, and stored, also not counted.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:10 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Did total deliveries (including prior to 2019), make a hundred?
Swiss 29
DL 28
AirBaltic 22
KE 10
Egypt Air Ex. 7
AC 2
Air Tanzania 2

https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-csr.htm

It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

Lightsaber

Just note AC does not have 2 yet; they erroneously entered C-GROV twice with an MSN of 55067 and 550067.
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:30 pm

VV wrote:
bspc wrote:
VV wrote:
Can someone post the total A220 deliveries in 2019 please? Thank you


Unofficially it’s 46. 21 -300 and 25 -100.

https://aibfamily.flights/statistics/A2 ... 2019-12-31


So this time they hit the target for 45 deliveries in 2019.


My guess is, that's the first time they ever had a delivery total for 2019. Just kidding....
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:36 pm

767333ER wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
Did total deliveries (including prior to 2019), make a hundred?
Swiss 29
DL 28
AirBaltic 22
KE 10
Egypt Air Ex. 7
AC 2
Air Tanzania 2

https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-csr.htm

It sure looks like we are finally into a hundred A220 at airlines!

Lightsaber

Just note AC does not have 2 yet; they erroneously entered C-GROV twice with an MSN of 55067 and 550067.

Bummer. But as noted, 4 at a Leasing company.

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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:39 pm

SteelChair wrote:
My prediction is 70 deliveries for 2020, and launch of the 500


I am thinking 65 frames. Leave periods cut back production. They also have to finish their construction work at both sites.

Given recent pronouncements of the profitability of the program, I can't see the 500 launching any time soon.

lightsaber wrote:

Bummer. But as noted, 4 at a Leasing company.

Lightsaber


Not a huge deal. They'll pass that threshold in a week or two. I am just happy that they've finally moved into three digit frames delivered. IMHO, the next big milestones (beyond opening production facilities) are double digit deliveries per month and moving past 100 frames delivered annually.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:39 pm

I didn't find a news release so I'm not sure if this was reported in the 2019 thread. From Airbus December O&D spreadsheet, it appears Nordic Aviation Capital firmed their June MOU for 20 A220 on December 27th. Order includes 6xA221 and 14xA223.

The undisclosed order from September remains undisclosed.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:59 pm

TObound wrote:
SteelChair wrote:
My prediction is 70 deliveries for 2020, and launch of the 500


I am thinking 65 frames. Leave periods cut back production. They also have to finish their construction work at both sites.

Given recent pronouncements of the profitability of the program, I can't see the 500 launching any time soon.

lightsaber wrote:

Bummer. But as noted, 4 at a Leasing company.

Lightsaber


Not a huge deal. They'll pass that threshold in a week or two. I am just happy that they've finally moved into three digit frames delivered. IMHO, the next big milestones (beyond opening production facilities) are double digit deliveries per month and moving past 100 frames delivered annually.

I agree with increasing deliveries. The next big threshold is getting 300+ delivered to ensure a healthy spares market.

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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:02 am

yyztpa2 wrote:
I didn't find a news release so I'm not sure if this was reported in the 2019 thread. From Airbus December O&D spreadsheet, it appears Nordic Aviation Capital firmed their June MOU for 20 A220 on December 27th. Order includes 6xA221 and 14xA223.

The undisclosed order from September remains undisclosed.

Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:24 am

lightsaber wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
I didn't find a news release so I'm not sure if this was reported in the 2019 thread. From Airbus December O&D spreadsheet, it appears Nordic Aviation Capital firmed their June MOU for 20 A220 on December 27th. Order includes 6xA221 and 14xA223.

The undisclosed order from September remains undisclosed.

Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

Lightsaber


No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.

Regarding Jan deliveries;
A220-100:
Delta 55048 has performed first taxing tests and engine runs on 10-Jan-2020. Likely we will see the delivery in Jan-2020.
Delta A220-100 55048 to minimum 55053 are now already in the Montreal final assembly line in completion. 55048 is according my knowledge the first of the next A220-100 order batch, so there was just around two month between the prior and the next Delta order batches, the last delivery of the prior batch was on 21-Nov-2019.

A220-300
STLC 55073 is still not delivered but has already performed some flights.(first on 12-Dec-2019). Flight program shall be completed with thrid flight on 18-Dec-2019, jet has now only to be accepted by the customer.
Egypt air, 55074 has already performed first flight. (05-Jan-2020), now already the first three. Will be pretty sure delivered this month.
Air Canada: good question if we will see 55075 (second AC A220-300) delivery in Jan-2020? I say yes.

Minimum up to 55081 are now in the A220-300 FAL in Montreal. 5x A220-300 are already in the Mobile assembly line in production (these shall be 55069/70/75/80 and 55084).
All others, I do not know.

https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:40 am

lightsaber wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
I didn't find a news release so I'm not sure if this was reported in the 2019 thread. From Airbus December O&D spreadsheet, it appears Nordic Aviation Capital firmed their June MOU for 20 A220 on December 27th. Order includes 6xA221 and 14xA223.

The undisclosed order from September remains undisclosed.

Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

Lightsaber

It's showing on the Airbus O&D spreadsheet in the middle of this page.
https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/ ... eries.html
Also December over November shows an additional 10xA221 cancels. Likely from some of the legacy doubtful orders.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:46 am

T4thH wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
I didn't find a news release so I'm not sure if this was reported in the 2019 thread. From Airbus December O&D spreadsheet, it appears Nordic Aviation Capital firmed their June MOU for 20 A220 on December 27th. Order includes 6xA221 and 14xA223.

The undisclosed order from September remains undisclosed.

Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

Lightsaber


No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.

Regarding Jan deliveries;
A220-100:
Delta 55048 has performed first taxing tests and engine runs on 10-Jan-2020. Likely we will see the delivery in Jan-2020.
Delta A220-100 55048 to minimum 55053 are now already in the Montreal final assembly line in completion. 55048 is according my knowledge the first of the next A220-100 order batch, so there was just around two month between the prior and the next Delta order batches, the last delivery of the prior batch was on 21-Nov-2019.

A220-300
STLC 55073 is still not delivered but has already performed some flights.(first on 12-Dec-2019). Flight program shall be completed with thrid flight on 18-Dec-2019, jet has now only to be accepted by the customer.
Egypt air, 55074 has already performed first flight. (05-Jan-2020), now already the first three. Will be pretty sure delivered this month.
Air Canada: good question if we will see 55075 (second AC A220-300) delivery in Jan-2020? I say yes.

Minimum up to 55081 are now in the A220-300 FAL in Montreal. 5x A220-300 are already in the Mobile assembly line in production (these shall be 55069/70/75/80 and 55084).
All others, I do not know.

https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220


I keep reading that the first Delta A223 won't be delivered until 2nd half of 2020 but this message seems tied to the new A220 FAL. With 5 already in the A320 FAL, some since late summer, won't these be delivered earlier?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:53 am

yyztpa2 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

Lightsaber


No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.

Regarding Jan deliveries;
A220-100:
Delta 55048 has performed first taxing tests and engine runs on 10-Jan-2020. Likely we will see the delivery in Jan-2020.
Delta A220-100 55048 to minimum 55053 are now already in the Montreal final assembly line in completion. 55048 is according my knowledge the first of the next A220-100 order batch, so there was just around two month between the prior and the next Delta order batches, the last delivery of the prior batch was on 21-Nov-2019.

A220-300
STLC 55073 is still not delivered but has already performed some flights.(first on 12-Dec-2019). Flight program shall be completed with thrid flight on 18-Dec-2019, jet has now only to be accepted by the customer.
Egypt air, 55074 has already performed first flight. (05-Jan-2020), now already the first three. Will be pretty sure delivered this month.
Air Canada: good question if we will see 55075 (second AC A220-300) delivery in Jan-2020? I say yes.

Minimum up to 55081 are now in the A220-300 FAL in Montreal. 5x A220-300 are already in the Mobile assembly line in production (these shall be 55069/70/75/80 and 55084).
All others, I do not know.

https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220


I keep reading that the first Delta A223 won't be delivered until 2nd half of 2020 but this message seems tied to the new A220 FAL. With 5 already in the A320 FAL, some since late summer, won't these be delivered earlier?


They could be used for training, which could take a bit. Also there was a fire suppression foam incident, which may have delayed things a little.

Also the 2 GTLK A220's that haven't flown out yet have been Delivered Contractually, based on Airbus O&D Spreadheet and reflected in the links below:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55073
https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55072
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:57 am

yyztpa2 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
Do you have a link to the press release? This is great news. More future deliveries.

I'm being lazy, what deliveries are expected in January?

Lightsaber


No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.

Regarding Jan deliveries;
A220-100:
Delta 55048 has performed first taxing tests and engine runs on 10-Jan-2020. Likely we will see the delivery in Jan-2020.
Delta A220-100 55048 to minimum 55053 are now already in the Montreal final assembly line in completion. 55048 is according my knowledge the first of the next A220-100 order batch, so there was just around two month between the prior and the next Delta order batches, the last delivery of the prior batch was on 21-Nov-2019.

A220-300
STLC 55073 is still not delivered but has already performed some flights.(first on 12-Dec-2019). Flight program shall be completed with thrid flight on 18-Dec-2019, jet has now only to be accepted by the customer.
Egypt air, 55074 has already performed first flight. (05-Jan-2020), now already the first three. Will be pretty sure delivered this month.
Air Canada: good question if we will see 55075 (second AC A220-300) delivery in Jan-2020? I say yes.

Minimum up to 55081 are now in the A220-300 FAL in Montreal. 5x A220-300 are already in the Mobile assembly line in production (these shall be 55069/70/75/80 and 55084).
All others, I do not know.

https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html
https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220


I keep reading that the first Delta A223 won't be delivered until 2nd half of 2020 but this message seems tied to the new A220 FAL. With 5 already in the A320 FAL, some since late summer, won't these be delivered earlier?

No, it has been already several times confirmed, first will be delivered in Q3 2020. And the first A220 was damaged by the fire extinguishing fume accident, it was said, it was taken out of the production and will be later again implemented after repair in the production line. So 4 are in production and one is parked.
What they are now doing, is to prepare several A220-300 to different completion status. As soon as the new Mobile A220 is ready/completed, they will push the half prefabricated A220 to the new FAL and fill up all of the different FAL production slots in the production line, so they can immediately start on several positions in the FAL production line in parallel.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:11 am

I have a long winded question about A220 slot availability, so I hope its OK to post this in the production/ delivery thread.
I keep hearing that AirNorth is going to upgrade its current fleet of 737 classics, consisting of 4 - 500's and 1 - 400, it looks like all of the Jurassic 200's are now gone. In the current issue of their inflight magazine, "Yukon North of Ordinary" , AirNorth President Joe Sparling says that " An upgrade to our jet fleet is on the horizon and we are including environmental considerations in our analysis alongside capital and operating costs". There are also three tables showing fuel savings between current fleet and "Newest Generation Jet" with a seat count of 160.
Talk on the very small streets in the Yukon is that AirNorth is looking very seriously at the A220, however, the 160 seat count is the maximum for the 300 according to wiki, so that piece of the puzzle fits.
Are there any slots available in the next couple of years for a new small customer? It seems that with some of the soft orders that they could squeeze in an order for 5?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:02 am

Delivery Schedule of Reported/Announced A220 Deliveries
BOLD is reported in news/press release/filings
underline is reported by A.net user
italics is when i evened deliveries out based on known data as best able
*#* is grains of salt, at best its a guess on year by year breakdown

Mobile (presuming all A223 for Delta, JetBlue, and Moxy)
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
Delta A223s..........6.......12......17.......15
JetBlue................1........6........8........19.......22.......14..
Moxy............ .................6......*12*....*12*.....*15*....*15*
MOBILE TOTAL....7......24.......37.......46.......37.......29
Mirabel (all others)
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
Air Austral.............2.........1
Air Baltic.....8.......12.......12........4
Air Canada .1.......14.......15......15
Air France.....................*8*......*13*....*13*.....*13*.....*13*
Air Senegal.....................2.........2.........2..........2
Air Tanzania..........1.........1
Air Vanuatu ..........2.........2
Czech Airlines........2.......2
Delta A221s..24....12.......*5*
EgyptAir.......7........5
Korean Air...1
STLC...........6
Swiss.......... 1......1
Undsclsd.........................*5*.......*5*
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
MIRABEL...48......51........53......39.......15......15.......13
COMBINED.48.....58.......77......76........61......52......42

Possible Orders to be added
Not included are shaky orders like Iraqi or lessor options.
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
Lessors...............144 ---> ---> ---> ---> ---> ---> --->---> --->
Possible Options/Purchase Rights/etc. to be added
YEAR......2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025
EqyptAir...............12...---> ---> .---> --->
Swiss...................30 .---> ---> ---> --->
Korean..................20 .---> ---> .---> --->
Air Vanuatu......................4 .---> ---> .---> --->
Air Baltic....................................30 .---> ---> .---> --->
Air Canada.................................30 .---> ---> .---> --->
Delta.....................................................50 .---> ---> .--->
JetBlue......................................................................50 .--->
Air France..................................................................60 .--->
Options are based on year of last scheduled delivery. These dates are approximate, included to help visualize where A220 slots could be assigned.

Current sales campaigns discussed in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428303

Data in previous posts, primarily #s 59, 130, 263, 491, and 627 in 2019 thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411871

Updates in this post: Just updating things with the new year.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:12 am

TObound wrote:
SteelChair wrote:
My prediction is 70 deliveries for 2020, and launch of the 500


I am thinking 65 frames. Leave periods cut back production. They also have to finish their construction work at both sites.


I am also thinking close to 65 frames. I would guess no less than 63. I only have 58 listed now, but I am looking forward to finding out in February when Delta files some paperwork if those 5 orders from the Paris Air Show are going to be 2019 deliveries (also more from other airlines). I could also see Air Tanzania or Air Vanuatu getting some earlier, and there is that undisclosed order for 10 A220-100s out there. I definitely think 70 is within the realm of possibility.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:17 am

airnorth wrote:
I have a long winded question about A220 slot availability, so I hope its OK to post this in the production/ delivery thread.
I keep hearing that AirNorth is going to upgrade its current fleet of 737 classics, consisting of 4 - 500's and 1 - 400, it looks like all of the Jurassic 200's are now gone. In the current issue of their inflight magazine, "Yukon North of Ordinary" , AirNorth President Joe Sparling says that " An upgrade to our jet fleet is on the horizon and we are including environmental considerations in our analysis alongside capital and operating costs". There are also three tables showing fuel savings between current fleet and "Newest Generation Jet" with a seat count of 160.
Talk on the very small streets in the Yukon is that AirNorth is looking very seriously at the A220, however, the 160 seat count is the maximum for the 300 according to wiki, so that piece of the puzzle fits.
Are there any slots available in the next couple of years for a new small customer? It seems that with some of the soft orders that they could squeeze in an order for 5?


I don't know the exact answer but you can look at my post a couple posts up to get my best sense of what is out there. Puzzle pieces like lessor orders (Would AirNorth look as leasing?), customer options, recent undisclosed order, and a variety of current sales campaigns make it impossible for me to answer with any confidence. However, assuming some of the orders (looking at you Delta top up for 5 at Paris) move from 2021 to 2020, I would think for the right price they [edit: Air North] could get 5 between 2021 and 2022, and for a good price if they are looking at 2023 onward.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:32 pm

Please remember this is the Production/Delivery thread. Feel free to open a separate thread to discuss sales campaigns. For orders please post in Airbus and Boeing Orders Thread. Thanks.
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:51 pm

Does someone know why are there some Egypt Air A220-300 not being painted with the airline's livery?
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:39 am

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Does someone know why are there some Egypt Air A220-300 not being painted with the airline's livery?


They are meant for the EgyptAir subsidiary Airline (called Air Sinai) to be used between Tel Aviv and Cairo because of the history between those countries. There are only a few of them, newer Deliveries have already been Delivered in full EgyptAir livery.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:33 pm

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No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.


That's a real shame. Their BAE146s are getting very old and the CS100 would look fantastic in their livery. Do they have any active plans to replace their BAE146s?

For Airbus, does this mean that the several CS100 aircraft mostly built for them but which never flew might now be completed and allocated to another customer?
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:41 pm

zkojq wrote:
T4thH wrote:
No press release till now.

The 10x A220-100 BRAATHENS REGIONAL AIRWAYS zombie order, which was already years long dead and stated by BRA as dead/cancelled, has been now also official cancelled in the Airbus books. So one of the highly doubtful/zombie orders less.


That's a real shame. Their BAE146s are getting very old and the CS100 would look fantastic in their livery. Do they have any active plans to replace their BAE146s?

For Airbus, does this mean that the several CS100 aircraft mostly built for them but which never flew might now be completed and allocated to another customer?

Have a read of https://www.flightglobal.com/news/bra-a ... 15.article

A small excerpt:
BRA has opted to focus on an all-ATR 72-600 fleet. It recently took delivery of an ATR under an eco-friendly financing scheme and expects to receive four more during the first quarter of 2020.

The airline is retiring its BAE Systems Avro RJ fleet, and only four of the 10 remain with the carrier – the final one, it says, will leave the fleet on 29 March.

But BRA is not completely abandoning jet operations. It says it will wet-lease four Embraer 190s from German operator WDL from April, and expand to a fifth aircraft next year.

These jets will mainly serve its primary domestic routes from Stockholm Bromma to Malmo and Gothenburg, as well as Gothenburg-Lyon, and will also be used for charter flights.


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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:51 pm

zkojq wrote:

For Airbus, does this mean that the several CS100 aircraft mostly built for them but which never flew might now be completed and allocated to another customer?

Those CS100s are likely never going to be completed. There is not enough of them to bother worry about delivering, and at this point is likely cheaper to just build a new A221 rather than trying to finish them. They needed a bunch of work to begin with and now they have been sitting outside for almost 3 years.
 
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Polot wrote:
zkojq wrote:

For Airbus, does this mean that the several CS100 aircraft mostly built for them but which never flew might now be completed and allocated to another customer?

Those CS100s are likely never going to be completed. There is not enough of them to bother worry about delivering, and at this point is likely cheaper to just build a new A221 rather than trying to finish them. They needed a bunch of work to begin with and now they have been sitting outside for almost 3 years.


The first production A220 (50006) was even completed...and is stored in Wichita. Swiss/LH group was willed to take jets starting with the no 10. No one was willed to take up 50006, still it is fully completed.

Swiss 50018 was half completed for 2 years and than completed. As was seen, it was hard to near not any more possible, to get the 50018 cell to an up to date production status, too much has changed in last years. According to this, the second cell (50019) will not any more completed, for this a A220-300 has been ordered as replacement (55110).

All the early not completed cells (A220-100: 50007, 50008, 50009 and 50019 and A220-300: 55017) will be most likely parted out and scrapped. It seems it is not worth (regarding changes in production) to upgrade the outdated cells to up to date status. The same issue as the terrible teens (B787) have had (but these were completed and at the end have been taken up with an around 50% discount (according Air Austral).

Prototypes and first production jet, which are stored (and not in use by Airbus): 50004, 50005 and 50006...I am surprised, no one has bought them and tried to convert them to business jets.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:16 pm

MSN 50048 A220-100 N129DU for Delta Airlines has been delivered on 24-Jan-2020. It has left Montreal on same date.
https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50048

MSN 55076 A220-300 Air Canada has till now performed two flights.

MSN 55072 and 55073 for STLC have been delivered according contract but seems to be still parked in Montreal. So delivery flights are still pending.
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:43 pm

T4thH wrote:
Polot wrote:
zkojq wrote:

For Airbus, does this mean that the several CS100 aircraft mostly built for them but which never flew might now be completed and allocated to another customer?

Those CS100s are likely never going to be completed. There is not enough of them to bother worry about delivering, and at this point is likely cheaper to just build a new A221 rather than trying to finish them. They needed a bunch of work to begin with and now they have been sitting outside for almost 3 years.


The first production A220 (50006) was even completed...and is stored in Wichita. Swiss/LH group was willed to take jets starting with the no 10. No one was willed to take up 50006, still it is fully completed.

Swiss 50018 was half completed for 2 years and than completed. As was seen, it was hard to near not any more possible, to get the 50018 cell to an up to date production status, too much has changed in last years. According to this, the second cell (50019) will not any more completed, for this a A220-300 has been ordered as replacement (55110).

All the early not completed cells (A220-100: 50007, 50008, 50009 and 50019 and A220-300: 55017) will be most likely parted out and scrapped. It seems it is not worth (regarding changes in production) to upgrade the outdated cells to up to date status. The same issue as the terrible teens (B787) have had (but these were completed and at the end have been taken up with an around 50% discount (according Air Austral).

Prototypes and first production jet, which are stored (and not in use by Airbus): 50004, 50005 and 50006...I am surprised, no one has bought them and tried to convert them to business jets.


ABCDLists shows FTV1 50001 as Broken Up. Is this confirmed?
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:56 pm

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ABCDLists shows FTV1 50001 as Broken Up. Is this confirmed?

I suppose they have seen this: https://twitter.com/FlyingRationale/sta ... 5155421186
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:13 am

Options must have expiry dates on them. I'm wondering how long Lufthansa Group has to exercise their options.
 
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:41 am

Any more delivery/ies before January ends? Awfully quiet here.
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:02 pm

gokmengs wrote:
Any more delivery/ies before January ends? Awfully quiet here.


The 2nd A220 for Air Canada has been online for a few days now. It already completed 2 Flights so far. Its the only candidate for last minute January Delivery.

Source: https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220
 
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 pm

bspc wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
Any more delivery/ies before January ends? Awfully quiet here.


The 2nd A220 for Air Canada has been online for a few days now. It already completed 2 Flights so far. Its the only candidate for last minute January Delivery.

Source: https://aibfamily.flights/Airbus-A220


January is always a quit month. Last year, even no was delivered, this year already two have been delivered and performed the delivery flight, 55074 A220-300 for Egypt Air and 50048, A220-100 for Delta.
MSN 55072 and 55073 for STLC have been delivered according contract but seems to be still parked in Montreal. So delivery flights are still pending.

These two have still not left Montreal, so they have still not performed the delivery flights. But these shall have been delivered according contract.

Else only 55076, the second Air Canada A220-300. has performed taxi runs and two flights, last on 24-Jan-2020. perhaps we will see the delivery tomorrow.
No other A220 have been seen, no other taxi runs e.g.
 
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:26 pm

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MSN 55072 and 55073 for STLC have been delivered according contract but seems to be still parked in Montreal. So delivery flights are still pending.


Besides pointing out exactly what I said :P there is a good chance at this point that the STLC Aircraft are actually stored at YMX, instead of MST like the other ones. Thats probably a decision by the lessor.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:35 pm

Back to the STLC aircraft. Still no operator/customer in sight?
 
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Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:43 pm

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Back to the STLC aircraft. Still no operator/customer in sight?

Azumuth airlines has been interested, A220 (most likely, they will be leased).
http://www.rusaviainsider.com/russias-superjet-100-operator-eyes-airbus-a220-300/
According following source, seems to look for a leasing from GLTK.-> Paywall, so only headline.
https://www.airfinancejournal.com/articles/3576712/azimuth-eyes-gtlk-a220-leases
According following source (in Russian) not, but this is just a headline without text and sources.
https://news.myseldon.com/en/news/index/216792882
And again, Azimuth seems to have offered job opportunities, which seems to be for a A220-300. Source in Russian.
https://airportal.hu/airbus-a220-asokkal-bovulne-az-orosz-azimuth-airlines/

The A220 certification for the Russian market was announced for end ob 2019...it is still not done. Seems to be no need for Airbus (and others?), to complete it fast...so...NO? Rumors, Azimuth wants to order the GLTK A220-300 are wrong?

But than the question, why the last two A220-300 are still in Montreal? Are they waiting to be new painted in Montreal? Air Baltic is sending their A220 jets to Montreal, if they need a new painting, so who knows.

Sorry, but I forgot my crystal ball somewhere and can not find it :stirthepot:
 
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Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:48 am

They are probably just stored in Montreal until they find a new owner I suppose. There is plenty of space at YMX.
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:01 am

bspc wrote:
They are probably just stored in Montreal until they find a new owner I suppose. There is plenty of space at YMX.

The other four have been fast ferried to another place, which is better suited for a long term storage. Montreal is now in winter times not the best place to store a plane for prolonged time; question will be also, how expensive a long term storage in Montreal will be. Even Airbus and Bombardier have stored/based their A220 test planes and the stored prototypes and early numbers in Wichita (and not in Montreal).
 
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Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:51 pm

A220 MZFW & MLW going up - more payload capacity will result:

https://www.flightglobal.com/programmes ... 99.article

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