Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

qf789 · Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:47 pm

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hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:39 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
January 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 9 (273/279/215/292/265/214/278/287/272)
Initial Engine Runs: 8 (262/273/279/278/292/214/265/215)
RTOs: 9 (271/262/277/276/273/279/278/292/214)
First Flights: 10 (271/280/277/262/276/273/279/278/292/214)
First CAFs: 7 (268/271/211/267/269/262/276)
Deliveries: 5 (268/271/211/267/269)
EIS: 4 (250/268/211/245)

February 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 8 (286/224/234/285/297/281/229/293)
Initial Engine Runs: 8 (272/287/285/286/234/224/297/293)
RTOs: 10 (215/265/272/287/234/285/286/224/297/293)
First Flights: 9 (265/215/272/287/286/224/234/285/297)
First CAFs: 8 (273/280/284/277/272/279/215/278)
Deliveries: 9 (276/262/273/280/284/277/272/279/278)
EIS: 8 (269/262/271/276/226/244/267/273)

March 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 8 (305/294/296/289/291/300/237/302)
Initial Engine Runs: 9 (229/281/296/305/289/291/294/237/300)
RTOs: 8 (229/281/296/289/305/294/291/237)
First Flights: 8 (293/229/281/296/289/305/291/294)
First CAFs: 9 (287/286/214/265/285/293/292/224/296)
Deliveries: 8 (215/286/287/214/265/293/292/224)
EIS: 10 (280/272/284/279/215/278/286/277/214/287/265)

April 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 11 (290/316/303/241/309/295/310/282/312/306/321)
Initial Engine Runs: 10 (302/290/303/309/316/241/295/282/310/306)
RTOs: 9 (300/302/290/303/309/316/295/241/310)
First Flights: 10 (237/300/302/290/303/295/316/309/241/310)
First CAFs: 8 (289/294/291/234/300/302/303/237)
Deliveries: 8 (296/285/289/294/291/234/300/302)
EIS: 9 (292/224/296/289/294/291/293/234/300)

May 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 9 (311/249/307/315/301/325/318/330/298)
Initial Engine Runs: 11 (312/311/315/321/307/249/325/301/298/318/330)
RTOs: 12 (306/312/311/315/307/321/249/325/301/298/282/318)
First Flights: 10 (306/312/311/315/307/321/249/325/301/298)
First CAFs: 12 (229/305/295/297/309/281/310/306/312/311/290/241)
Deliveries: 13 (303/237/229/305/295/297/309/281/310/311/306/312/290)
EIS: 10 (303/237/229/302/305/295/297/310/309/281)

June 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 12 (314/266/322/324/308/319/329/257/334/274/327/326)
Initial Engine Runs: 10 (322/308/266/324/314/274/319/329/257/326)
RTOs: 10 (330/322/308/266/314/324/274/319/329/257)
First Flights: 12 (318/282/330/322/308/266/324/314/274/319/329/257)
First CAFs: 9 (321/316/307/325/301/318/249/308/322)
Deliveries: 10 (241/307/316/321/325/301/249/318/322/308)
EIS: 9 (311/306/241/307/312/316/301/325/249)

July 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 7 (323/333/328/337/336/341/342)
Initial Engine Runs: 8 (334/327/333/328/336/337/341/342)
RTOs: 8 (326/327/334/333/328/336/337/341)
First Flights: 8 (326/334/327/333/328/337/336/341)
First CAFs: 8 (324/314/315/266/326/327/330/329)
Deliveries: 7 (324/314/315/327/326/329/330)
EIS: 6 (318/322/324/314/327/329)

August 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 8 (343/340/65/344/351/331/345)
Initial Engine Runs: 7 (323/340/343/344/351/331/332)
RTOs: 7 (342/323/344/343/340/351/331)
First Flights: 7 (342/323/344/343/340/351/331)
First CAFs: 5 (337/328/274/298/333)
Deliveries: 5 (337/328/274/298/333)
EIS: 3 (326/337/328)

September 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 9 (352/339/355/357/335/313/338/346/349)
Initial Engine Runs: 9 (352/345/339/355/357/335/338/346/349)
RTOs: 9 (332/345/352/339/355/357/335/338/346)
First Flights: 8 (332/345/352/339/355/357/335/338)
First CAFs: 12 (319/341/344/331/340/343/323/282/257/336/342/345)
Deliveries: 12 (341/344/331/340/343/319/282/323/257/266/336/342)
EIS: 8 (321/274/298/341/344/282/340/257)

October 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 12 (348/354/347/350/299/370/364/369/358/359/320/362)
Initial Engine Runs: 10 (313/347/354/348/350/299/370/364/358/362)
RTOs: 7 (349/313/347/354/348/350/299)
First Flights: 8 (346/313/349/347/348/354/350/299)
First CAFs: 11 (335/334/332/339/352/349/354/348/346/347/357)
Deliveries: 8 (345/335/334/339/352/349/354/348)
EIS: 8 (266/345/331/333/343/334/335/339)

November 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 9 (366/65/371/365/363/356/376/375/373)
Initial Engine Runs: 12 (369/65/359/366/365/320/363/371/356/375/373/376)
RTOs: 16 (362/358/370/364/369/65/366/365/359/320/371/363/356/375/373/376)
First Flights: 16 (370/362/358/364/369/359/366/65/365/320/371/363/356/375/373/376)
First CAFs: 13 (299/313/350/338/364/362/366/358/65/365/369/359/320)
Deliveries: 11 (299/347/357/364/362/366/358/365/338/369/359)
EIS: 8 (352/319/348/349/347/357/364/362)

December 2019 Figures
Flightline Power Ons: 5 (374/392/387/379/386)
Initial Engine Runs: 2 (374/392)
RTOs: 2 (374/392)
First Flights: 2 (374/392)
First CAFs: 10 (371/370/355/351/363/375/373/356/375/376)
Deliveries: 16* (65/332/346/371/350/370/313/375/320/363/373/356/374/376/355/351)
EIS: 18 (299/369/346/336/332/359/366/350/371/313/375/370/320/65/356/373/376/363)

For sake of comparison, 2018 deliveries = 93; 2019 deliveries = 112*

* Final figures TBC

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:02 pm

MSN 378 (SK#2) active on the flightline

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:12 pm

MSN 379 (SQ#46) initial engine run

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:46 pm

MSN 270 (??) maintenance engine run and taxi test
MSN 351 (HU) maintenance engine run and taxi test (contractually delivered in 12/19?)
MSN 355 (HU) maintenance engine run and taxi test (contractually delivered in 12/19?)
MSN 379 (SQ#46) RTO - first flight scheduled for Tuesday morning
MSN 387 (OZ#11) initial engine run
MSN 411 (CZ#8) rolled out of FAL

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:38 pm

MSN 379 (SQ#46-Regional) maiden test flight #AIB01FZ
MSN 397 (IB#7) active on the flightline

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:05 pm

MSN 387 (OZ#11) RTO - first flight scheduled for Thursday

Thunderboltdrgn · Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:55 pm

Here we are, almost 400 A350 made.....

It almost feels like it was yesterday we were sitting here and counting down to FAL start of MSN #1 and later it's first flight. Those were the days.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:43 pm

MSN 381 (AF#4) active on the flightline
MSN 385 (SQ#47-Regional) active on the flightline
MSN 396 (CX#39-359) active on the flightline
MSN 413 (CX#41-359) rolled out of FAL

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:51 pm

Airbus cleaned up its order book in the Dec 2019 O&D:

- Air Caraibes was identified as the "Undisclosed" Customer for 1x 35J
- Hong Kong Airlines cancellation for 6x 359
- Synergy Aerospace cancellation for 10x 359
- "Undisclosed" cancellation for 15x 359 (these were for Hainan Airlines)

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:22 pm

MSN 378 (SK#2) initial engine run
MSN 381 (AF#4) initial engine run
MSN 385 (SQ#47-Regional) initial engine run
MSN 387 (OZ#11) maiden test flight #AIB01FA
MSN 396 (CX#39-359) initial engine run
MSN 412 (ET#15) rolled out of FAL
MSN 414 (SU#2) rolled out of FAL

PepeTheFrog · Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:21 pm

The Turkish A350 is undergoing some work, presumably it is having its cabin fitted:

zkojq · Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:46 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 381 (AF#4) active on the flightline
MSN 385 (SQ#47-Regional) active on the flightline
MSN 396 (CX#39-359) active on the flightline
MSN 413 (CX#41-359) rolled out of FAL

Aircraft is named Ville De Nice :cloudnine:

juliuswong · Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:05 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Airbus cleaned up its order book in the Dec 2019 O&D:

- Air Caraibes was identified as the "Undisclosed" Customer for 1x 35J
- Hong Kong Airlines cancellation for 6x 359
- Synergy Aerospace cancellation for 10x 359
- "Undisclosed" cancellation for 15x 359 (these were for Hainan Airlines)

Not to nitpick on you, but the figures seems to be a bit off. We are talking about HNA Group, numbers are confusing with them, I am not surprised.

According to FG article, Hong Kong Airlines cancelled 8 A359. Hong Kong Airlines initial order was for 15 A359 factory fresh from Airbus and six (6) more from lessors.

Their 15 factory fresh order was reduced to 13 when two A359 were transffered to Hainan Airlines (MSN 360365 and 360371 both NTU went to SAA). Out of 13 A359, Hong Kong Airlines will only take 5 A359. Based on the same article, out of these five (13 - 8= 5), three have been delivered.

Based on various sources, I found that none of their first six A359s delivered are from their own order book.
B-LGA- AerCap, stored at LDE
B-LGB- AerCap, stored at LDE
B-LGC- AerCap, active
B-LGD- AerCap, stored at LDE
B-LGE- ALAFCO, stored at HKG
B-LGH- ALAFCO, active

As for Hainan Airlines, they have 15 on order, they have sucessfully took delivery for two (B-1069 & B-1070), pending delivery for three (3) [B-308G, B-308H and B-308J] . How did they cancel 15??

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:23 am

Hong Kong Airlines cancellation was 8 not 6. It was a typo in my earlier post.

The rest is accurate.

Hong Kong Airlines' book now sits at 5 with 3 delivered. The 3 delivered are 246/251/260. All sitting in LDE in Hainan Airlines livery. The 2 undelivered are 270/283 which are currently looking for a new home. Hong Kong Airlines also operate(d) frames owned/delivered to lessors: 124/153/168/187 from Aercap (124/153/187 currently stored at LDE) and 235/256 from ALAFCO

Hainan Airlines' book was always zero. Its order for 15 was always in Unidentified. The Hainan Airlines deliveries so far are all from lessors. 2x from Aercap (98/112); 2x from LATAM which have subsequently gone to SAA (226/245); 4 from ALAFCO (285/308/323/338) and 2x from CITL (351/355).

Hope this clarifies

juliuswong · Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:46 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Hong Kong Airlines cancellation was 8 not 6. It was a typo in my earlier post.

The rest is accurate.

Hong Kong Airlines' book now sits at 5 with 3 delivered. The 3 delivered are 246/251/260. All sitting in LDE in Hainan Airlines livery. The 2 undelivered are 270/283 which are currently looking for a new home. Hong Kong Airlines also operate(d) frames owned/delivered to lessors: 124/153/168/187 from Aercap (124/153/187 currently stored at LDE) and 235/256 from ALAFCO

Hainan Airlines' book was always zero. Its order for 15 was always in Unidentified. The Hainan Airlines deliveries so far are all from lessors. 2x from Aercap (98/112); 2x from LATAM which have subsequently gone to SAA (226/245); 4 from ALAFCO (285/308/323/338) and 2x from CITL (351/355).

Hope this clarifies

Hey hkcanadaexpat, thank you for the explanation. Now it is clearer.

Here is how I interpret your explanation, correct me please if I am wrong. What you meant is Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of leased airframes (124/ 153/ 168/ 187/ 235/ 256), and are now selling their owned airframes? Thus, technically 246/ 251/ 260 (all three HKA ntu) /270/283 are all looking for new home, should HNA Group does not have the $$ to take them up?

Now that you have mentioned about Hainan Airlines order being "Unidentified", I went to look up again with other sources just realised they are indeed. Seems weird why they keep it as Unidentified just like what they did with A380 order. Here are at least 21 A359 potentially looking for new home as HNA Group work out their finance. Seems a huge amount for Airbus/ lessors to move around.

Once again thanks for the explanation.

Polot · Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:24 pm

juliuswong wrote:

Here is how I interpret your explanation, correct me please if I am wrong. What you meant is Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of leased airframes (124/ 153/ 168/ 187/ 235/ 256), and are now selling their owned airframes? Thus, technically 246/ 251/ 260 (all three HKA ntu) /270/283 are all looking for new home, should HNA Group does not have the $$ to take them up?

Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of the leased planes because they wanted more than the A350s directly ordered, and earlier. The intention was to always have them alongside the owned fleet (HKA/HNA had some grand visions). Some of those leased planes are also likely looking for new homes, especially the stored ones.

Small nit pick but 246/251/260 are technically not ”HKA ntu”, because HKA has taken delivery of them according to Airbus. But they are stored and not in service (similar to Ethiad’s A35ks), and likely looking for new homes. 270/283 are HKA ntu.

Scotron12 · Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:38 pm

What a weird situation...EY having their A350s stored for whatever reason, then rumors they are interested in putting money into AI!

sturmovik · Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:27 pm

Aeroflot is out of the paint shop, looks like they swapped the silver base paint for grey/eurowhite? https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Q3PsZKHhW/

Polot · Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:32 pm

sturmovik wrote:
Aeroflot is out of the paint shop, looks like they swapped the silver base paint for grey/eurowhite? https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Q3PsZKHhW/

Yes, and enlarged the flag, dropped the orange, and added a grey strip that extends along the bottom of the fuselage before swooping up instead of the orange/blue.

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:49 pm

MSN 378 (SK#2) new engine run
MSN 379 (SQ#46-Regional) out on another test flight #AIB02FZ
MSN 381 (AF#4) RTO; first flight scheduled for Tuesday
MSN 383 (SU#1) rolled out of paint hangar
MSN 385 (SQ#47-Regional) RTO; first flight scheduled for Tuesday
MSN 392 (AY#15) out on another test flight #AIB02IW

hkcanadaexpat · Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:26 pm

we're far from the days when January was a lull at Airbus...

MSN 378 (SK#2) maiden test flight #AIB01HH
MSN 381 (AF#4) maiden test flight #AIB01NJ
MSN 385 (SQ#47-Regional) maiden test flight #AIB01HK
MSN 386 (BA#5) initial engine run
MSN 396 (CX#37-359) RTO; first flight scheduled for Wednesday
MSN 397 (IB#7) initial engine run (unpainted)

UA947 · Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:09 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
we're far from the days when January was a lull at Airbus...

With only 2 first flights in December it would not have beeen very promising if that had continued this month...

UA947 · Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:16 pm

zkojq wrote:
Aircraft is named Ville De Nice

No it's not. The French probably thinks it's nice to call it Nice. So that's it, just Nice. I think that's nice.

PepeTheFrog · Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:41 pm

Look, Angela Merkel's first A350 emerged from FAL!

A330 Neo Kuwait Airways & A350 German Air Force by @Eurospot, on Flickr

zkojq · Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:50 pm

Presumably the Bundesrepublik A359 will have the same livery as their existing A340s?

UA947 wrote:
zkojq wrote:
Aircraft is named Ville De Nice

No it's not. The French probably thinks it's nice to call it Nice. So that's it, just Nice. I think that's nice.

That's nice enough for me. Yes fully biased of me since it's my hometown. :biggrin:

Hope to fly on it some day.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:06 am

MSN 386 (BA#5) RTO; first flight scheduled for Thursday
MSN 396 (CX#37) maiden test flight #AIB01FD
MSN 397 (IB#7) RTO; first flight scheduled for Thursday
MSN 416 (PJ) rolled out of FAL

817Dreamliiner · Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:33 pm

MSN386 first flight today:

F-WZGP Airbus A350-1000 British Airways by @Eurospot, on Flickr

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:41 pm

MSN 372 (QR#50-35J) active on the flightline
MSN 379 (SQ#46-Regional) active at the delivery centre
MSN 386 (BA#5) maiden test flight #AIB01GP
MSN 387 (OZ#11) out on another test flight #AIB02FA
MSN 397 (IB#7) revised engine run and taxi test (unpainted)

crimsonchin · Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:35 pm

The Aeroflot livery was one of the last good ones, so to see it go.

PepeTheFrog · Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:14 pm

Polot wrote:
juliuswong wrote:

Here is how I interpret your explanation, correct me please if I am wrong. What you meant is Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of leased airframes (124/ 153/ 168/ 187/ 235/ 256), and are now selling their owned airframes? Thus, technically 246/ 251/ 260 (all three HKA ntu) /270/283 are all looking for new home, should HNA Group does not have the $$ to take them up?

Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of the leased planes because they wanted more than the A350s directly ordered, and earlier. The intention was to always have them alongside the owned fleet (HKA/HNA had some grand visions). Some of those leased planes are also likely looking for new homes, especially the stored ones.

Small nit pick but 246/251/260 are technically not ”HKA ntu”, because HKA has taken delivery of them according to Airbus. But they are stored and not in service (similar to Ethiad’s A35ks), and likely looking for new homes. 270/283 are HKA ntu.

Somehow Airbus managed to deliver the HKA NTU aircraft to lessor ALAFCO.

How can they do that while Boeing got stuck with white tails?

audidudi · Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:04 am

MSN 351 (HX #??) F-WZNS/ B-30DM was ferried from TLS>LDE today as HU3381. after previous delivery.

PepeTheFrog · Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:02 am

audidudi wrote:
MSN 351 (HX #??) F-WZNS/ B-30DM was ferried from TLS>LDE today as HU3381. after previous delivery.

And there's another one parked at the delivery center.

Polot · Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:04 am

PepeTheFrog wrote:
Polot wrote:
juliuswong wrote:

Here is how I interpret your explanation, correct me please if I am wrong. What you meant is Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of leased airframes (124/ 153/ 168/ 187/ 235/ 256), and are now selling their owned airframes? Thus, technically 246/ 251/ 260 (all three HKA ntu) /270/283 are all looking for new home, should HNA Group does not have the $$ to take them up?

Hong Kong Airlines took delivery of the leased planes because they wanted more than the A350s directly ordered, and earlier. The intention was to always have them alongside the owned fleet (HKA/HNA had some grand visions). Some of those leased planes are also likely looking for new homes, especially the stored ones.

Small nit pick but 246/251/260 are technically not ”HKA ntu”, because HKA has taken delivery of them according to Airbus. But they are stored and not in service (similar to Ethiad’s A35ks), and likely looking for new homes. 270/283 are HKA ntu.

Somehow Airbus managed to deliver the HKA NTU aircraft to lessor ALAFCO.

How can they do that while Boeing got stuck with white tails?

Airbus has white tails too, they both got stuck with them. Some of HNA’s 787s are actually GECAS planes iirc. Delivery was delayed while the lessor found a new customer.

PepeTheFrog · Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:07 am

Polot wrote:
Airbus has white tails too, they both got stuck with them. Some of HNA’s 787s are actually GECAS planes iirc. Delivery was delayed while the lessor found a new customer.

Do you happen to know the white tail A350 MSNs?

bspc · Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:45 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
Polot wrote:
Airbus has white tails too, they both got stuck with them. Some of HNA’s 787s are actually GECAS planes iirc. Delivery was delayed while the lessor found a new customer.

Do you happen to know the white tail A350 MSNs?

You mean this? https://aibfamily.flights/search?airlin ... amily=A350

audidudi · Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:58 pm

MSN 355 (HU #??) F-WZDU/B-30DP was ferried today from TLS>LDE, for interim storage, after previous delivery.

dstblj52 · Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:12 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
MSN386 first flight today:

F-WZGP Airbus A350-1000 British Airways by @Eurospot, on Flickr

She really is a beautiful plane

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:49 pm

MSN 397 (IB#7) maiden test flight #AIB01GL (unpainted)
MSN 398 (CZ#7) rolled out of paint hangar
MSN 415 (VS#6) rolled out of FAL

Polot · Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:12 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
Polot wrote:
Airbus has white tails too, they both got stuck with them. Some of HNA’s 787s are actually GECAS planes iirc. Delivery was delayed while the lessor found a new customer.

Do you happen to know the white tail A350 MSNs?

I do not know the A350 MSNs, but I believe there are 2 or 3. There are also some ntu A333s from HNA as well.

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:17 pm

There are two white tails (actually fully painted in white) at TLS. MSN 270 and MSN 283. On the order book, they are the two outstanding Hong Kong Airlines' orders.
Once they find a new home, we will see the order book change to the new owner(s).

PepeTheFrog · Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:43 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
There are two white tails (actually fully painted in white) at TLS. MSN 270 and MSN 283. On the order book, they are the two outstanding Hong Kong Airlines' orders.
Once they find a new home, we will see the order book change to the new owner(s).

Just to be clear, both aircraft have not been delivered to a lessor?

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:51 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
There are two white tails (actually fully painted in white) at TLS. MSN 270 and MSN 283. On the order book, they are the two outstanding Hong Kong Airlines' orders.
Once they find a new home, we will see the order book change to the new owner(s).

Just to be clear, both aircraft have not been delivered to a lessor?

They have not been delivered yet, either contractually or physically. They "belong" to Hong Kong Airlines as far as the order book is concerned. You see Hong Kong Airlines with 5 orders and 3 deliveries as of 12/31/19. They are obviously going to be NTUs. HX and Airbus are probably both looking for a new home for these frames.

Delta350 · Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:39 pm

I don’t know if this is off topic, but dose anyone have any word of Airbus making an assembly line in North America for the A350? There’s been talk that since demand is high for planes, like the A350, they might need more FALs.

PM · Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:48 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
There are two white tails (actually fully painted in white) at TLS. MSN 270 and MSN 283. On the order book, they are the two outstanding Hong Kong Airlines' orders.
Once they find a new home, we will see the order book change to the new owner(s).

I believe I'm correct in saying that 283 hasn't even flown yet.

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:01 pm

PM wrote:
I believe I'm correct in saying that 283 hasn't even flown yet.

Correct

hkcanadaexpat · Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:13 pm

MSN 379 (SQ#46-Regional) first CAF #AIB03FZ

bspc · Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:04 am

Delta350 wrote:
I don’t know if this is off topic, but dose anyone have any word of Airbus making an assembly line in North America for the A350? There’s been talk that since demand is high for planes, like the A350, they might need more FALs.

Its been thrown around, primarily by Fliegerfaust, but its all speculation. As far as I know nothing is official and to be honest they don't really need that right now. There aren't many Customers in the Americas that have ordered the A350.

juliuswong · Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:46 am

Hainan Airlines MSN #351 and #355 are now transferred to LDE for interim storage. Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

Polot · Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:48 am

bspc wrote:
Delta350 wrote:
I don’t know if this is off topic, but dose anyone have any word of Airbus making an assembly line in North America for the A350? There’s been talk that since demand is high for planes, like the A350, they might need more FALs.

Its been thrown around, primarily by Fliegerfaust, but its all speculation. As far as I know nothing is official and to be honest they don't really need that right now. There aren't many Customers in the Americas that have ordered the A350.

And if Fliegerfaust is the main source what probably happened is someone said to him “wouldn’t it be cool if Airbus built A350s in Mobile?” which in Fliegerfaust’s world is as good as official confirmation.

I don’t see it, especially with Airbus opening up A350 completion center in China.

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