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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 4:02 am

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I did not know that. So do agents in A who live in Philadelphia get City wage tax, but those who live outside the City/County don't?


Everyone pays a city wage tax. City residents actually pay a slightly higher rate than non-residents do.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 3:34 pm

I posted this link in the American Airlines thread as well but this is the official CMA publishing of the investigation. PHL is considered a thin route between LHR according to the reports which is not surprising. The link is 85 pages but still working checking out

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tments.pdf
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 3:55 pm

Flew through PHL today the flight was about 90% full. Terminal D/E checkpoint had about a 20 minute long line.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 4:10 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Flew through PHL today the flight was about 90% full. Terminal D/E checkpoint had about a 20 minute long line.

Probably Florida flights? Friday is the busy day here. So much for essential flying
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 4:21 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
I posted this link in the American Airlines thread as well but this is the official CMA publishing of the investigation. PHL is considered a thin route between LHR according to the reports which is not surprising. The link is 85 pages but still working checking out

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tments.pdf

Thanks for posting.

So DL was able to draw some fliers on the route, even though the seat count was low. What is your take on this?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 4:23 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Flew through PHL today the flight was about 90% full. Terminal D/E checkpoint had about a 20 minute long line.

Probably Florida flights? Friday is the busy day here. So much for essential flying


My flight was to ATL. There were some headed to Florida, some ATL, some ORD, etc.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 5:51 pm

Bigant0408 wrote:
I posted this link in the American Airlines thread as well but this is the official CMA publishing of the investigation. PHL is considered a thin route between LHR according to the reports which is not surprising. The link is 85 pages but still working checking out

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tments.pdf

Thanks for this. PHL-LHR defined as thin is interesting, but not surprising. It has routinely hit under it's weight compared to other LHR routes.

If I read the PHL-LHR action correctly:
AA wins the argument that DL should not have been able to move the slots
DL either returns to PHL-LHR or gives up the pair
The pair becomes available for another airline
If no airlines enters PHL-LHR, AA/BA must maintain a minimum number of annual seats on the route (barring force majeure). The annual seat count is 635,300 seats which comes to 1,741 a day. I have to imagine that is for PHL-LHR-PHL and not just PHL-LHR. Because just PHL-LHR would result in much more capacity than has existed
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 8:42 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
I posted this link in the American Airlines thread as well but this is the official CMA publishing of the investigation. PHL is considered a thin route between LHR according to the reports which is not surprising. The link is 85 pages but still working checking out

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tments.pdf

Thanks for posting.

So DL was able to draw some fliers on the route, even though the seat count was low. What is your take on this?


I remember doing dummy booking for both CDG and LHR routes for DL and overall they weren't great on loads but had its days of being almost full loads. I doubt DL would want to try this route again. If they couldn't make it work after the 3 required years I doubt they would want to test the waters again especially post-covid. Unless DL offers a lower prices I just can't see them coming back
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 8:44 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Bigant0408 wrote:
I posted this link in the American Airlines thread as well but this is the official CMA publishing of the investigation. PHL is considered a thin route between LHR according to the reports which is not surprising. The link is 85 pages but still working checking out

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tments.pdf

Thanks for this. PHL-LHR defined as thin is interesting, but not surprising. It has routinely hit under it's weight compared to other LHR routes.

If I read the PHL-LHR action correctly:
AA wins the argument that DL should not have been able to move the slots
DL either returns to PHL-LHR or gives up the pair
The pair becomes available for another airline
If no airlines enters PHL-LHR, AA/BA must maintain a minimum number of annual seats on the route (barring force majeure). The annual seat count is 635,300 seats which comes to 1,741 a day. I have to imagine that is for PHL-LHR-PHL and not just PHL-LHR. Because just PHL-LHR would result in much more capacity than has existed


No problem. I'm glad I found this to get even more clarity.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 10:09 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Flew through PHL today the flight was about 90% full. Terminal D/E checkpoint had about a 20 minute long line.


Florida? Think our one other heavy was DFW today or maybe CLT, but a bunch of Florida ran pretty full today.

Sidenote for all, can't get the picture to load, but HiFly A340 9H-JAI has been parked at gate A15 today.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 11:04 pm

flyboy7974 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Flew through PHL today the flight was about 90% full. Terminal D/E checkpoint had about a 20 minute long line.


Florida? Think our one other heavy was DFW today or maybe CLT, but a bunch of Florida ran pretty full today.

Sidenote for all, can't get the picture to load, but HiFly A340 9H-JAI has been parked at gate A15 today.


I flew on F9 for my first time today. Not AA.

Saw the A340 and BA 787 when taxing out... Pretty cool.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 11:07 pm

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Sidenote for all, can't get the picture to load, but HiFly A340 9H-JAI has been parked at gate A15 today.


I don't know if the site takes JPEG or PNG. Though maybe imgur is an option? I hope you can upload them. I have a couple photos of the B767 and B744 taken right before everything went down. Would everyone like to see them?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 11:09 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Saw the A340 and BA 787 when taxing out... Pretty cool.


Pics or it didn't happen :lol:
Though do you have any photos of the both planes? It would be cool to see them
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 11:09 pm

How long till AA pulls the A330s and such out of the schedule? Would like to see what gets a 788, 789, and 772.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat May 09, 2020 12:48 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
How long till AA pulls the A330s and such out of the schedule? Would like to see what gets a 788, 789, and 772.


Unknown, today it was discussed that PHL will be a 787 base & LHR going all 777 in October, (which we knew). Oddly enough, only other route mentioned was that KEF will be an A321neo next year. A332 are parked for two years, I’m sure that’ll change. Think once the June is finalized is when the TATL updates will be made.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat May 09, 2020 12:53 am

flyboy7974 wrote:

Oddly enough, only other route mentioned was that KEF will be an A321neo next year.


Nice to hear. Sounds plausible given PHL-KEF is around 200 miles shorter than PHX-HNL. Will there be some modified configuration? Is this the only announced A321neo TATL route for now?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat May 09, 2020 12:54 am

flyboy7974 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
How long till AA pulls the A330s and such out of the schedule? Would like to see what gets a 788, 789, and 772.


Unknown, today it was discussed that PHL will be a 787 base & LHR going all 777 in October, (which we knew). Oddly enough, only other route mentioned was that KEF will be an A321neo next year. A332 are parked for two years, I’m sure that’ll change. Think once the June is finalized is when the TATL updates will be made.


Any rumors bout other seasonal routes? Some were selling really well.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat May 09, 2020 1:01 am

Ishrion wrote:
flyboy7974 wrote:

Oddly enough, only other route mentioned was that KEF will be an A321neo next year.


Nice to hear. Sounds plausible given PHL-KEF is around 200 miles shorter than PHX-HNL. Will there be some modified configuration? Is this the only announced A321neo TATL route for now?
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I’d think they reconfigure but nothing mentioned and no other routes.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 2:20 am

Seems like a lot of PHL’s decisions for TATL ops. throughout the summer stemmed from PHL not being approved as an official DHS airport. Rumor is they are really pushing for it to become one in time for the LHR relaunch...
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 5:08 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Seems like a lot of PHL’s decisions for TATL ops. throughout the summer stemmed from PHL not being approved as an official DHS airport. Rumor is they are really pushing for it to become one in time for the LHR relaunch...

Do you know what is the reason PHL does not qualify?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 5:16 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Good to see PHL- BCN/EDI/LIS/LHR (#2) Loaded for next Spring... Now let’s hope they happen.


American's Philadelphia to Edinburgh route will be upgauged to the 787-8 next Spring, replacing the 757-200.

https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1259351103369601024

BCN/LIS/LHR are still showing A330.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 12:15 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Seems like a lot of PHL’s decisions for TATL ops. throughout the summer stemmed from PHL not being approved as an official DHS airport. Rumor is they are really pushing for it to become one in time for the LHR relaunch...

Do you know what is the reason PHL does not qualify?


I don’t think it’s large enough... Also, PHzl is quite seasonal when it comes to TATL ops. So no one was really expecting it to last this long.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 12:16 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Good to see PHL- BCN/EDI/LIS/LHR (#2) Loaded for next Spring... Now let’s hope they happen.


American's Philadelphia to Edinburgh route will be upgauged to the 787-8 next Spring, replacing the 757-200.

https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1259351103369601024

BCN/LIS/LHR are still showing A330.


Awesome to here! Really great find on your part. Rumor is KEF is being looked into with a 321.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 12:58 pm

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... june-2021/

Looks like that’s the plan for KEF
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 1:03 pm

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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/291191/american-airlines-plans-a321neo-philadelphia-reykjavik-service-from-june-2021/

Looks like that’s the plan for KEF


Awesome news in my opinion... Now onto the rest of the Summer seasonal flights.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 1:08 pm

Would AA have enough aircraft to feed PHL TATL ops next year? Right now I’m thinking something like;

A321- KEF
788 - AMS, BCN, CDG, DBV, LIS, PRG, TXL, VCE, ZRH, EDI
789 - ATH, DUB, FCO, MAD, SJU
772 - LHR, LHR #2

Unknown; CMN, SNN, BUD
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 1:43 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Would AA have enough aircraft to feed PHL TATL ops next year? Right now I’m thinking something like;

A321- KEF
788 - AMS, BCN, CDG, DBV, LIS, PRG, TXL, VCE, ZRH, EDI
789 - ATH, DUB, FCO, MAD, SJU
772 - LHR, LHR #2

Unknown; CMN, SNN, BUD


BUD will likely see the 788. To be honest, CMN could as well.

As for SNN, I believe the route may have been slashed completely for 2021 or it’s been pushed back to a later date, possibly in June. Doesn’t SNN resume alongside EDI? If so, SNN hasn’t been loaded yet while EDI is available.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 1:45 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Would AA have enough aircraft to feed PHL TATL ops next year? Right now I’m thinking something like;

A321- KEF
788 - AMS, BCN, CDG, DBV, LIS, PRG, TXL, VCE, ZRH, EDI
789 - ATH, DUB, FCO, MAD, SJU
772 - LHR, LHR #2

Unknown; CMN, SNN, BUD


BUD will likely see the 788. To be honest, CMN could as well.

As for SNN, I believe the route may have been slashed completely for 2021 or it’s been pushed back to a later date, possibly in June. Doesn’t SNN resume alongside EDI? If so, SNN hasn’t been loaded yet while EDI is available.


SNN was set to resume on May 7th this year, so not alongside EDI. What do you think about the other 788 routes I mentioned?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 1:53 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Would AA have enough aircraft to feed PHL TATL ops next year? Right now I’m thinking something like;

A321- KEF
788 - AMS, BCN, CDG, DBV, LIS, PRG, TXL, VCE, ZRH, EDI
789 - ATH, DUB, FCO, MAD, SJU
772 - LHR, LHR #2

Unknown; CMN, SNN, BUD


BUD will likely see the 788. To be honest, CMN could as well.

As for SNN, I believe the route may have been slashed completely for 2021 or it’s been pushed back to a later date, possibly in June. Doesn’t SNN resume alongside EDI? If so, SNN hasn’t been loaded yet while EDI is available.


SNN was set to resume on May 7th this year, so not alongside EDI. What do you think about the other 788 routes I mentioned?


Thanks for the SNN clarification.

Considering AA is using the A321ceo on its MIA-BSB route, they're pushing the aircraft to its limit.

So it's possible AA could schedule more A321neo TATL routes out of PHL. At its max range, the aircraft is capable of reaching pretty much every AA TATL destination from PHL except ATH.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 2:01 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

BUD will likely see the 788. To be honest, CMN could as well.

As for SNN, I believe the route may have been slashed completely for 2021 or it’s been pushed back to a later date, possibly in June. Doesn’t SNN resume alongside EDI? If so, SNN hasn’t been loaded yet while EDI is available.


SNN was set to resume on May 7th this year, so not alongside EDI. What do you think about the other 788 routes I mentioned?


Thanks for the SNN clarification.

Considering AA is using the A321ceo on its MIA-BSB route, they're pushing the aircraft to its limit.

So it's possible AA could schedule more A321neo TATL routes out of PHL. At its max range, the aircraft is capable of reaching pretty much every AA TATL destination from PHL except ATH.


Wow, I didn’t know the Neo was that capable. It’s funny how much PHL will change in just a year.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 3:24 pm

Seems to be a good sign that these filings are coming through already. Really crossing fingers to see CMN back. With a whole year's worth of potential bookings, including pax who postponed from this summer, and the RAM entry into OW, I'm feeling optimistic. I would be much more inclined to take that flight on a 788/9 over the neo, but maybe it needs the narrowbody configuration before evolving into the widebody. Time will tell.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm

Shame those A321Neo didn't come with IFEs. I think the base range of the 321neo is 3600nmi and the 321lr is 4000nmi. Wonder if the 321xlr would even have IFE I kinda doubt it if AA wants streamline seats. Also I didn't know PHL was getting B789 next year?
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 4:29 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Shame those A321Neo didn't come with IFEs. I think the base range of the 321neo is 3600nmi and the 321lr is 4000nmi. Wonder if the 321xlr would even have IFE I kinda doubt it if AA wants streamline seats. Also I didn't know PHL was getting B789 next year?


AA's A321XLRs plan to have IFE and lie-flat seats, potentially even Premium Economy.

In the interview, go to 2:22. Basically the density of the config isn't a priority.

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... fault.aspx
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 4:30 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Shame those A321Neo didn't come with IFEs.


In a post COVID world, I can't imagine IFE being utilized as it's just another touch point on a perceived 'dirty' aircraft. Personally I'd feel safer with my own device.

For as much as people bemoaned AA not installing IFE, looks like they saved themselves millions and are ahead of the future trend of BYOD
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 6:14 pm

jetsetter629 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
Shame those A321Neo didn't come with IFEs.


In a post COVID world, I can't imagine IFE being utilized as it's just another touch point on a perceived 'dirty' aircraft. Personally I'd feel safer with my own device.

For as much as people bemoaned AA not installing IFE, looks like they saved themselves millions and are ahead of the future trend of BYOD


Or, more than ever, IFE is one of the few normal perks that an airline can offer with minimal health risk. AA was already bare bones, and now they're more bare bones than ever.

AA wants you to place your phone in a filthy device holder on the seatback or on a dirty tray table - I'll take a screen that gets wiped down between each flight.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 12:59 am

PHLspecial wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Seems like a lot of PHL’s decisions for TATL ops. throughout the summer stemmed from PHL not being approved as an official DHS airport. Rumor is they are really pushing for it to become one in time for the LHR relaunch...

Do you know what is the reason PHL does not qualify?

I believe it was because PHL serves primarily European paxs on one airline. Many of the approved airports serve multiple continents across Europe, Asia, South America across various airlines.

Good to see these loaded, but very preliminary.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 3:30 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Is PHL - MCO F9’s largest route in terms of seats? (For their whole system)


According to this article, during the summer of 2019, it was their second largest route by total seats, being barely edged out by DEN-LAS.

https://www.anna.aero/2019/09/20/to-new ... -airlines/
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 3:06 pm

According to Forbes, B6 may be trying for the PHL-LHR remedy slot, for A321LR service.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... w-airport/

That's an uphill climb for them with basically no feed on either end, but with a narrowbody, and those Mint seats printing money if they catch on, they may not need to sell that many tickets to survive on the route, unlike Delta.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 4:06 pm

PHLCVGAMTK wrote:
According to Forbes, B6 may be trying for the PHL-LHR remedy slot, for A321LR service.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... w-airport/

That's an uphill climb for them with basically no feed on either end, but with a narrowbody, and those Mint seats printing money if they catch on, they may not need to sell that many tickets to survive on the route, unlike Delta.

That would be interesting if B6 actually applied for the PHL-LHR slot. Definitely a fan of them so I hope they apply.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 7:23 pm

An AA 788 flew a cargo flight PHL-FCO Sunday night (5/10), planned to fly back Tuesday
A Privilege Style 763 flew MAD-PHL Sunday night
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 10:12 pm

usairways85 wrote:
An AA 788 flew a cargo flight PHL-FCO Sunday night (5/10), planned to fly back Tuesday
A Privilege Style 763 flew MAD-PHL Sunday night


Scheduled cargo flights for month of May, three more each planned to ZRH/FCO throughout month.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue May 12, 2020 9:14 pm

And here’s the Privilege Style private charter outbound yesterday to AUH

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PVG6181
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed May 13, 2020 3:50 pm

Seems like we have Hi Fly Malta cargo flight CAN-PHL (HFM371 / 9H-SOL) that is landing now
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed May 13, 2020 4:53 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

BUD will likely see the 788. To be honest, CMN could as well.

As for SNN, I believe the route may have been slashed completely for 2021 or it’s been pushed back to a later date, possibly in June. Doesn’t SNN resume alongside EDI? If so, SNN hasn’t been loaded yet while EDI is available.


SNN was set to resume on May 7th this year, so not alongside EDI. What do you think about the other 788 routes I mentioned?


Thanks for the SNN clarification.

Considering AA is using the A321ceo on its MIA-BSB route, they're pushing the aircraft to its limit.

So it's possible AA could schedule more A321neo TATL routes out of PHL. At its max range, the aircraft is capable of reaching pretty much every AA TATL destination from PHL except ATH.


It would require a lie flats seats for anywhere beyond KEF unless IAG removes that requirement in the TATL JV.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed May 13, 2020 11:52 pm

HiFly A340 9H-JAI went tech and was flown back Monday night to Portugal for repairs.

9H-SOL currently in PHL but is suppose turn to YUL next rotation. If a timely fix to - JAI cannot be completed, to complete their cargo contract, they’ve hinted at subbing their A380 in for the last flight. Requested ramp adjacent to Atlantic Aviation but if that is not authorized based on aircraft weight, will use pads over near deice facility where past JFK diversions have refueled.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 5:10 am

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HiFly A340 9H-JAI went tech and was flown back Monday night to Portugal for repairs.

9H-SOL currently in PHL but is suppose turn to YUL next rotation. If a timely fix to - JAI cannot be completed, to complete their cargo contract, they’ve hinted at subbing their A380 in for the last flight. Requested ramp adjacent to Atlantic Aviation but if that is not authorized based on aircraft weight, will use pads over near deice facility where past JFK diversions have refueled.


I have seen the AN-124 parked on the east side of the airport, but I don't recall exactly where. It definitely was not at Atlantic Aviation but closer to the 17/35 runways.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 12:36 pm

Heard rumors of SNN launching May 6, 2021 with a 788 5x weekly.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 12:58 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Heard rumors of SNN launching May 6, 2021 with a 788 5x weekly.


That'd be cool and interesting if this is true. I'm just curious if the huge jump in capacity might be too much. Regardless, if the route does come back that would be great.
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm

flyboy7974 wrote:
HiFly A340 9H-JAI went tech and was flown back Monday night to Portugal for repairs.

9H-SOL currently in PHL but is suppose turn to YUL next rotation. If a timely fix to - JAI cannot be completed, to complete their cargo contract, they’ve hinted at subbing their A380 in for the last flight. Requested ramp adjacent to Atlantic Aviation but if that is not authorized based on aircraft weight, will use pads over near deice facility where past JFK diversions have refueled.

If you have any more information on that would love to know. Love to be able to get some amazing photos if true. Also another problem is PHL I believe doesn't have a tug capable for the A380.
 
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Re: Philadelphia Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 2:37 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
Also another problem is PHL I believe doesn't have a tug capable for the A380.


Don't need a tug when the thing can only actually be parked in one spot on the entire airport, and essentially only taxi on two taxiways.
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