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Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:29 pm

juliuswong wrote:
avier wrote:
Which airline did Airbus deliver the largest number of A320Neo family aircrafts to, in the year 2019?
Or in other words, which was Airbus' largest customer in terms of deliveries of A320neo family for 2019?

Would love to see a breakup of the top receivers of this type in year, to see whose getting the most of the delivery slots/year.

That would be IndiGo, they have received 28 A320neo plus 9 A321neo this year, with 5 more A320neo and 12 A321neo due over the few weeks. Not sure if any of these will be delivered before year end.


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Wow! Even on the last day of the calendar year IndiGo got two more NEO's delivered. This along with two ATR-72's being delivered to 6E yesterday too. That makes it a total of 39 NEO deliveries from the A320neo family for IndiGo in 2019. Impressive numbers. Wonder if they'll continue to be the top receiver of this aircraft family type for 2020.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:44 pm

I would wait for the audited figures - often there are contractual deliveries that are not flown away. So there is a chance that it will be slightly higher.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 pm

With DL expected to be recieving their first NEO in Q1 of this year how long until their first starts assembly?
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:51 pm

StTim wrote:
I would wait for the audited figures - often there are contractual deliveries that are not flown away. So there is a chance that it will be slightly higher.

These deliveries should have at least a CAF. And by start point of the flight (DCs in TLS or XFW) and by the flight profile I can tell you if it was a CAF.
So I count 11 frames with CAF but not flown out (4 of them flew out today).
There were 100 delivery flights in December. 5 of them were delivered before.
So 100-5+11 would make 106 deliveries in December.
So there are very likely 642 A320 family deliveries in 2019, 552 of them were NEOs.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:50 pm

Airbus will boost its NEO production in Mobile to 7 aircraft per month:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... he-us.html

Airbus is ramping up A320-fam production from its Mobile, Ala. plant from 5 to 7/mo. In a few days, Airbus will be making more narrowbody jets in the U.S. than Boeing as latter prepares to temporarily shut down Max output altogether.


Says 275 jobs will be added.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:14 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
Airbus will boost its NEO production in Mobile to 7 aircraft per month:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... he-us.html

Airbus is ramping up A320-fam production from its Mobile, Ala. plant from 5 to 7/mo. In a few days, Airbus will be making more narrowbody jets in the U.S. than Boeing as latter prepares to temporarily shut down Max output altogether.


Says 275 jobs will be added.

First, congrats. That increases A321 production capacity (short, IMHO).

What quantity of planes per year is 7 per month from Airbus? US practice is 84, but is this the 11 month calendar year?

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Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:33 pm

lightsaber wrote:
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Airbus will boost its NEO production in Mobile to 7 aircraft per month:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... he-us.html

Airbus is ramping up A320-fam production from its Mobile, Ala. plant from 5 to 7/mo. In a few days, Airbus will be making more narrowbody jets in the U.S. than Boeing as latter prepares to temporarily shut down Max output altogether.


Says 275 jobs will be added.

First, congrats. That increases A321 production capacity (short, IMHO).

What quantity of planes per year is 7 per month from Airbus? US practice is 84, but is this the 11 month calendar year?

Lightsaber


I would assume a 12 month calendar year. The 11 or better 11.5 month, was in regards to France, where whole factories go into production stop for a few weeks in August.

The article talks about more than 130 frames a year. 130 divided by 12 is nearly 11. 7 A320 family and 4 A220 family frames a month.
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Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:37 pm

lightsaber wrote:
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Airbus will boost its NEO production in Mobile to 7 aircraft per month:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... he-us.html

Airbus is ramping up A320-fam production from its Mobile, Ala. plant from 5 to 7/mo. In a few days, Airbus will be making more narrowbody jets in the U.S. than Boeing as latter prepares to temporarily shut down Max output altogether.


Says 275 jobs will be added.

First, congrats. That increases A321 production capacity (short, IMHO).

What quantity of planes per year is 7 per month from Airbus? US practice is 84, but is this the 11 month calendar year?

Lightsaber


Does Mobile has a maximum possible capacity of 8 or 10 a month?

And how high does this boost total A32X family production per month this year?
 
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FluidFlow wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Airbus will boost its NEO production in Mobile to 7 aircraft per month:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... he-us.html



Says 275 jobs will be added.

First, congrats. That increases A321 production capacity (short, IMHO).

What quantity of planes per year is 7 per month from Airbus? US practice is 84, but is this the 11 month calendar year?

Lightsaber


Does Mobile has a maximum possible capacity of 8 or 10 a month?

And how high does this boost total A32X family production per month this year?


The current A320 family final assembly line in Mobile is designed for a maximum of 8 frames a month.

Airbus wanted to ramp to 60 a month last year and 63 a month this year. 60 a month was not reached last year, but I assume will be reached this year. With a ramp to 63 planned for 2021.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:01 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
FluidFlow wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
First, congrats. That increases A321 production capacity (short, IMHO).

What quantity of planes per year is 7 per month from Airbus? US practice is 84, but is this the 11 month calendar year?

Lightsaber


Does Mobile has a maximum possible capacity of 8 or 10 a month?

And how high does this boost total A32X family production per month this year?


The current A320 family final assembly line in Mobile is designed for a maximum of 8 frames a month.

Airbus wanted to ramp to 60 a month last year and 63 a month this year. 60 a month was not reached last year, but I assume will be reached this year. With a ramp to 63 planned for 2021.



First thank you and second: So we possibly see Mobile up to 8 next year if all goes as planned.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:02 am

FluidFlow wrote:
mjoelnir wrote:
FluidFlow wrote:

Does Mobile has a maximum possible capacity of 8 or 10 a month?

And how high does this boost total A32X family production per month this year?


The current A320 family final assembly line in Mobile is designed for a maximum of 8 frames a month.

Airbus wanted to ramp to 60 a month last year and 63 a month this year. 60 a month was not reached last year, but I assume will be reached this year. With a ramp to 63 planned for 2021.



First thank you and second: So we possibly see Mobile up to 8 next year if all goes as planned.


No, 7 per month as written just some post above citing an official Airbus press release.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:51 pm

sergegva wrote:
Airbus is close to breaking the "100x A320 family deliveries in a single month" milestone for the first time this December.
According to Planespotters.net, they already delivered 79 members of the familly between December 1 and 26 (78 neo and 1 ceo for Delta).

Last December mark was 93 aircraft, 26 of which were delivered between the 27th and 31st. Same numbers this year would bring us to 105 deliveries for December 2019. BTW, they need 90 deliveries to improve their 2018 result (626 A320).


According to Airbus numbers for December 2019, they have finally broken the "100x A320 deliveries in a month" mark (ceo and neo) in December 2019, with exactly 105 deliveres (102 neo, 3 ceo).
But as @raumfahrt82 noticed (in the 2019 topic), it's only a tie record, beacuse they already delivered 105 A320 family aircraft in December 2017.

Final numbers for 2019 includes 642 A320 deliveries, versus 626 in 2018 and 558 in 2017.
 
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Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:48 pm

Wizz to continue using P&W on their latest NEO batch, which is more or less as expected

http://newsroom.pw.utc.com/2020-01-27-W ... y-Aircraft

Pratt & Whitney, a division of United Technologies Corp. (NYSE: UTX), and Wizz Air Hungary Ltd. (Wizz Air) announced selection of the Pratt & Whitney GTF™ engine to power an order of 166 Airbus A320neo family aircraft. The order consists of 90 aircraft from Wizz Air’s 2016 selection, an additional 56 Airbus A320neo family aircraft and 20 Airbus A321XLR aircraft. This brings Wizz Air’s combined total order to 276 GTF-powered A320neo family aircraft. Pratt & Whitney will also provide Wizz Air with engine maintenance through a long-term EngineWise® Comprehensive service agreement.
 
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Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?
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Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?


Yes I'm sure they're painted now. The wings have yellow tips on the fairings
 
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Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?


Yes, but not with engines

https://www.flickr.com/photos/143531276 ... 400200196/
 
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What's going on with the SK birds in XFW?

Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:14 pm

Does anyone know what's happening with the below 2 SK birds in XFW? They have been there forever while other A320's have been delivered to SK. SK got 4 A320's delivered in November 2019, another 3 in December 2019 and so far 1 in January 2020. So it's a little strange the below 2 birds is still on the ground in XFW.

MSN 9173 D-AVVC SE-ROH. Spottet in XFW in full CS with engines on Oct. 5 2019. First bird in the new livery. Hasn't been in the air yet. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9173
MSN 9262 D-AXAJ SE-ROU. Spotted in XFW in full CS with engines on Dec. 2 2019. First flight on Dec. 3 2019 but hasn't been in the air since. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9262
 
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Does anyone know what's happening with the below 2 SK birds in XFW? They have been there forever while other A320's have been delivered to SK. SK got 4 A320's delivered in November 2019, another 3 in December 2019 and so far 1 in January 2020. So it's a little strange the below 2 birds is still on the ground in XFW.

MSN 9173 D-AVVC SE-ROH. Spottet in XFW in full CS with engines on Oct. 5 2019. First bird in the new livery. Hasn't been in the air yet. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9173
MSN 9262 D-AXAJ SE-ROU. Spotted in XFW in full CS with engines on Dec. 2 2019. First flight on Dec. 3 2019 but hasn't been in the air since. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9262


Not really answering your question, but several of the SAS aircraft delivered the last few months was stored in various states for quite a long time before being delivered. So not only these two

SE-ROH was also the first SAS NEO painted in the new livery
 
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Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:13 am

Someone83 wrote:
DALCE wrote:
Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?


Yes, but not with engines

https://www.flickr.com/photos/143531276 ... 400200196/



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Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:34 pm

DALCE wrote:
Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?


This link might also help you keep track of all activities at SWISS - https://aibfamily.flights/customer/Swiss
 
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Re: What's going on with the SK birds in XFW?

Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:10 pm

Someone83 wrote:
geeek wrote:
Does anyone know what's happening with the below 2 SK birds in XFW? They have been there forever while other A320's have been delivered to SK. SK got 4 A320's delivered in November 2019, another 3 in December 2019 and so far 1 in January 2020. So it's a little strange the below 2 birds is still on the ground in XFW.

MSN 9173 D-AVVC SE-ROH. Spottet in XFW in full CS with engines on Oct. 5 2019. First bird in the new livery. Hasn't been in the air yet. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9173
MSN 9262 D-AXAJ SE-ROU. Spotted in XFW in full CS with engines on Dec. 2 2019. First flight on Dec. 3 2019 but hasn't been in the air since. https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9262


Not really answering your question, but several of the SAS aircraft delivered the last few months was stored in various states for quite a long time before being delivered. So not only these two

SE-ROH was also the first SAS NEO painted in the new livery

On the other hand, some of the SK birds delivered in November/December hardly had time for the paint to dry before they took to the sky and were delivered. Like MSN 9116 D-AUBX SE-ROT https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/9116. Spotted first time on Oct. 23. First flight on Oct. 28 and delivered on Nov 6.

That said. It's not only SK birds which seems to get clued to the ground from time to time. I've seen it happen to almost all airlines.
 
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Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?
 
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Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?

195 ( seems to be the exit limit ? )
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DALCE wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
DALCE wrote:
Any signs of the first 320NEO's for LX? Are they already seen outside?


Yes, but not with engines

https://www.flickr.com/photos/143531276 ... 400200196/



Thanks a lot for the pic! :D


First flight today BTW ;)
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:36 pm

MCTSET wrote:
Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?


Airbus claim 194. But even easyJet don’t have that many passengers. 186 on an easyJet. Does anyone know of an airline with more than 186 on an A320?
 
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greg85 wrote:
MCTSET wrote:
Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?


Airbus claim 194. But even easyJet don’t have that many passengers. 186 on an easyJet. Does anyone know of an airline with more than 186 on an A320?


Hong Kong Express have 188
 
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Wf789 wrote:
greg85 wrote:
MCTSET wrote:
Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?


Airbus claim 194. But even easyJet don’t have that many passengers. 186 on an easyJet. Does anyone know of an airline with more than 186 on an A320?


Hong Kong Express have 188


Cebu Pacific as well.

Also think they plan 194 seats on their future A320neo deliveries
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:08 pm

When is the first A319neo going to be delivered?
 
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Someone83 wrote:
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Thanks a lot for the pic! :D


First flight today BTW ;)


Yes first flight out of XFW today

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Someone83 wrote:
Wf789 wrote:
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Airbus claim 194. But even easyJet don’t have that many passengers. 186 on an easyJet. Does anyone know of an airline with more than 186 on an A320?


Hong Kong Express have 188


Cebu Pacific as well.

Also think they plan 194 seats on their future A320neo deliveries


IIRC, 186 in an A320 means full Y with 29'' pitch and Airbus space flex at the back.
How did they get to go higher? An even smaller pitch?
 
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sergegva wrote:
IIRC, 186 in an A320 means full Y with 29'' pitch and Airbus space flex at the back. How did they get to go higher? An even smaller pitch?


The Mirius Hawk and Recaro SL3510 economy seats they use are specially designed for ultra-high-density configurations so they can offer 28" pitch while still putting in additional rows.
 
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Stitch wrote:
sergegva wrote:
IIRC, 186 in an A320 means full Y with 29'' pitch and Airbus space flex at the back. How did they get to go higher? An even smaller pitch?


The Mirius Hawk and Recaro SL3510 economy seats they use are specially designed for ultra-high-density configurations so they can offer 28" pitch while still putting in additional rows.


How comfy, at least while our legs are losing circulation we have that extra inch of seat width..., :roll:

edit: Cebu might actually have 17” in width on their aircraft, There has to be limit in terms of pitch, g th he aircraft started with 180 pax limit and is now at 194 in the same fuselage. Ugh.
 
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WIederling wrote:
MCTSET wrote:
Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?

195 ( seems to be the exit limit ? )

Given how tight it is with 180 seats, I wonder how they will fit another 15 seats in there. It's almost 3 additional rows.
 
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geeek wrote:
WIederling wrote:
MCTSET wrote:
Just a quick question, what is the maximum seat capacity (all economy sardine tin config) the A320neo can hold?

195 ( seems to be the exit limit ? )

Given how tight it is with 180 seats, I wonder how they will fit another 15 seats in there. It's almost 3 additional rows.


tighter rows, galleys and toilets rearranged, this interesting 2 in 1 loo, and the single ones as "flow in" before "flow out" :-)
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:36 pm

WIederling wrote:
geeek wrote:
WIederling wrote:
195 ( seems to be the exit limit ? )

Given how tight it is with 180 seats, I wonder how they will fit another 15 seats in there. It's almost 3 additional rows.


tighter rows, galleys and toilets rearranged, this interesting 2 in 1 loo, and the single ones as "flow in" before "flow out" :-)

The flexgalery (2 in 1 loo etc.) is already in place in the birds with 180 seats, and they are already down to 29" pitch.
 
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:54 am

Please note, I have just posted it in the coronavirus thread. Short post here.

Airbus has stopped the A320 production in Tianjin FAL in China. Employees shall stay home, if possible, shall work homebased.
Official Airbus statement:
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2020/02/airbus-statement-on-the-coronavirus-situation.html#media-list-document-document-all_ml_0
 
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:46 am

Does anybody have data on where the 9xxx sequence of c/ns will finish, as 95xx are in production and 10xxx aircraft are already being built?
I believe there are a lot of 9xxx series Airbus numbers which were used internally for test rigs and mock-ups etc, and that they will not be duplicated, which is the main reason for changing before 9999 is reached.
 
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Does anybody have data on where the 9xxx sequence of c/ns will finish, as 95xx are in production and 10xxx aircraft are already being built?
I believe there are a lot of 9xxx series Airbus numbers which were used internally for test rigs and mock-ups etc, and that they will not be duplicated, which is the main reason for changing before 9999 is reached.


There are a few frames above 10000 build to test how the move to 5 digits work in the system. You see 10000+ frames in every FAL. Meanwhile Airbus is filling up the 9000 numbers, with a few 8000 numbers still to be delivered.
 
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ihmcallister wrote:
Does anybody have data on where the 9xxx sequence of c/ns will finish, as 95xx are in production and 10xxx aircraft are already being built?
I believe there are a lot of 9xxx series Airbus numbers which were used internally for test rigs and mock-ups etc, and that they will not be duplicated, which is the main reason for changing before 9999 is reached.


None of the 9xxx frames will be skipped. Remember that the technology used in Final Assembly and Airbus suppliers aren't like a Mac or Windows PC that can easily handle another digit. Some of the systems are specifically programmed in a certain way so starting now with the 10xxx Aircraft allows Airbus and its Suppliers to test the systems to make sure there are no problems when full production happens on a daily basis in the near future.
 
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Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm

Production rate will be boosted to 67 per month in 2023:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/airbus-put ... 1581581121

Airbus SE is ramping up production of its bestselling single-aisle jet, moving to fill a hole in the market created by the prolonged grounding of rival Boeing Co.’s 737 MAX.

Airbus said Thursday it had outlined plans to raise production of its A320neo to as many as 67 a month by 2023, from the current target of 63 a month in 2021.
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Hi all!
Does anybody know when Aegean is taking delivery of their first A321Neo?
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Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:27 am

First A320Neo delivered to SWISS, currently enroute XFW-ZRH as LX7549. ( MSN9246 )
flown: F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,223,E75,E90,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,
753,763,744,77W,788,319,320,321,333,AB6.
 
ihmcallister
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:33 am

bspc wrote:
ihmcallister wrote:
Does anybody have data on where the 9xxx sequence of c/ns will finish, as 95xx are in production and 10xxx aircraft are already being built?
I believe there are a lot of 9xxx series Airbus numbers which were used internally for test rigs and mock-ups etc, and that they will not be duplicated, which is the main reason for changing before 9999 is reached.


None of the 9xxx frames will be skipped. Remember that the technology used in Final Assembly and Airbus suppliers aren't like a Mac or Windows PC that can easily handle another digit. Some of the systems are specifically programmed in a certain way so starting now with the 10xxx Aircraft allows Airbus and its Suppliers to test the systems to make sure there are no problems when full production happens on a daily basis in the near future.


That's how I understood it, just a couple of test frames until the switch happens. However, I visited Toulouse recently, and the latest fuselage number seen was 10047.
I'm now wondering if the 9000 series will finally end after ceo deliveries finish.
 
mjoelnir
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:17 am

ihmcallister wrote:
bspc wrote:
ihmcallister wrote:
Does anybody have data on where the 9xxx sequence of c/ns will finish, as 95xx are in production and 10xxx aircraft are already being built?
I believe there are a lot of 9xxx series Airbus numbers which were used internally for test rigs and mock-ups etc, and that they will not be duplicated, which is the main reason for changing before 9999 is reached.


None of the 9xxx frames will be skipped. Remember that the technology used in Final Assembly and Airbus suppliers aren't like a Mac or Windows PC that can easily handle another digit. Some of the systems are specifically programmed in a certain way so starting now with the 10xxx Aircraft allows Airbus and its Suppliers to test the systems to make sure there are no problems when full production happens on a daily basis in the near future.


That's how I understood it, just a couple of test frames until the switch happens. However, I visited Toulouse recently, and the latest fuselage number seen was 10047.
I'm now wondering if the 9000 series will finally end after ceo deliveries finish.


There is no connection between the A320ceo family and usage of the 9000 numbers. As there is also no A320ceo family FAL. All currently produced A320ceo family frames are produced intermixed with neo frames.

Part of the reason for the high numbers in TLS is, that TLS is only producing A320. With the conversions to A321neo and slower production of the A321, TLS is running in front with the numbers. A320 frames, having already a MSN, drop out of being able to be produced in TLS, if the order is converted to A321.
 
chiad
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:38 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
Production rate will be boosted to 67 per month in 2023:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/airbus-put ... 1581581121

Airbus SE is ramping up production of its bestselling single-aisle jet, moving to fill a hole in the market created by the prolonged grounding of rival Boeing Co.’s 737 MAX.

Airbus said Thursday it had outlined plans to raise production of its A320neo to as many as 67 a month by 2023, from the current target of 63 a month in 2021.


Wow .. that's 800 annually.
I am not sure what the A220 rate will be, but assuming another 150+ per year and Airbus will build 950 narrowbodies per year.
Plus 120 A350s and another 60 A330s, and we're approaching 1150 aircrafts annually.

Sorry if this was somewhat off topic.
 
olba
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:29 am

Does anyone know when MEA A320neos will start being built? I think they have a couple due sometime mid 2020.
 
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MatheusLPV
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:47 pm

Anything about the first A321neo for QR ?!? QR will receive the first frames during 2020 but I can't find any information regarding the MSN or delivery dates ...
 
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speedygonzales
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:24 pm

Does anyone know when we'll see the first XLR enter FAL?
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
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