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Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:45 pm

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Does anyone know when we'll see the first XLR enter FAL?

Probably sometime in 2022. Maybe late 2021.
 
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The first A321NEO for MEA - Middle East Airlines - sporting a new livery, too !

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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:33 am

Anyone know when BA’s A321Neo G-NEOY is expected to be delivered to LHR?. The aircraft is shown online as having completed its acceptance flight on 18th February
 
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Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:44 am

G-NEOY is now due next week, don’t have a date yet or reason for the delay.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:46 am

Anyone know how long it takes to assemble a neo? Delta has their first one due in November when will the fuselage begin to take shape? Thanks
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:49 pm

First A321 for Cathay Dragon has rolled out of final assembly

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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:37 pm

dtwpilot225 wrote:
Anyone know how long it takes to assemble a neo? Delta has their first one due in November when will the fuselage begin to take shape? Thanks

According to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GUu03CV5DQ the work starts about 1 year before delivery. The video is unfortunately in German and somewhat old, but as far as I know it's still the same process for the NEO birds and roughly the same time frame.
How long it takes from the fuselage begin to take shape to delivery, really depends on how you define the fuselage begin to take shape.
 
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Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:46 pm

Hi guys. Does anyone know why Airbus will not produce A320s between LN9600 to LN9999?
 
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Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:49 pm

EduardoL wrote:
Hi guys. Does anyone know why Airbus will not produce A320s between LN9600 to LN9999?

If you read some posts back, you will see that MSN9600-9999 is going to be filled, but a bunch of birds were build with 5 digit MSN numbers in order to verify that delivery systems could handle MSN numbers above 9999.
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:18 am

geeek wrote:
EduardoL wrote:
Hi guys. Does anyone know why Airbus will not produce A320s between LN9600 to LN9999?

If you read some posts back, you will see that MSN9600-9999 is going to be filled, but a bunch of birds were build with 5 digit MSN numbers in order to verify that delivery systems could handle MSN numbers above 9999.


That used to be the case, but I think it has changed. Its quite obvious that there is a lack of information regarding MSN9600-9999 but somehow there is plenty of info MSN1000-1100+.
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:49 am

bspc wrote:
geeek wrote:
EduardoL wrote:
Hi guys. Does anyone know why Airbus will not produce A320s between LN9600 to LN9999?

If you read some posts back, you will see that MSN9600-9999 is going to be filled, but a bunch of birds were build with 5 digit MSN numbers in order to verify that delivery systems could handle MSN numbers above 9999.


That used to be the case, but I think it has changed. Its quite obvious that there is a lack of information regarding MSN9600-9999 but somehow there is plenty of info MSN1000-1100+.


If they are going to be produced, why is there no information? Any and all production list goes up to 9598 then goes to 10001
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:05 pm

EduardoL wrote:
bspc wrote:
geeek wrote:
If you read some posts back, you will see that MSN9600-9999 is going to be filled, but a bunch of birds were build with 5 digit MSN numbers in order to verify that delivery systems could handle MSN numbers above 9999.


That used to be the case, but I think it has changed. Its quite obvious that there is a lack of information regarding MSN9600-9999 but somehow there is plenty of info MSN1000-1100+.


If they are going to be produced, why is there no information? Any and all production list goes up to 9598 then goes to 10001


Thanks for quoting me and then repeating what I said ;)
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:52 pm

All known 10000, but 10001 for XFW, are allocated to TLS.

It can still be that one or all of the other FALs will fill in the void between 9598 and 10000.

the highest I find allocated to Mobile is MSN9538

the highest I find allocated to XFW is MSN9571

and the highest allocated to TSN is MSN9449

MSN9574 to MSN9598 those frames that have an allocation are all TLS.

There are a lot of frames all the way down from MSN8836 up to MSN9598 either not jet delivered, produced or allocated. There is no reason to believe they will not fill up those spaces with allocations all the way up to 9999.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:30 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
All known 10000, but 10001 for XFW, are allocated to TLS.

It can still be that one or all of the other FALs will fill in the void between 9598 and 10000.

the highest I find allocated to Mobile is MSN9538

the highest I find allocated to XFW is MSN9571

and the highest allocated to TSN is MSN9449

MSN9574 to MSN9598 those frames that have an allocation are all TLS.

There are a lot of frames all the way down from MSN8836 up to MSN9598 either not jet delivered, produced or allocated. There is no reason to believe they will not fill up those spaces with allocations all the way up to 9999.


AFAIK
Mobile: 10014 A320 NK, 10015 A321 DL
Tianjin: 10028 A320 Loong
XFW: 10010 & 10059 A321 LH, 10105 A321 TP.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:54 pm

bspc wrote:
geeek wrote:
EduardoL wrote:
Hi guys. Does anyone know why Airbus will not produce A320s between LN9600 to LN9999?

If you read some posts back, you will see that MSN9600-9999 is going to be filled, but a bunch of birds were build with 5 digit MSN numbers in order to verify that delivery systems could handle MSN numbers above 9999.


That used to be the case, but I think it has changed. Its quite obvious that there is a lack of information regarding MSN9600-9999 but somehow there is plenty of info MSN1000-1100+.

3 months ago MSN9500-9599 wasn't filled either. MSN9600-9999 will be filled. They just started on the 10K numbers so early that they would have plenty of time to fix any potential errors in the delivery systems before they were forced to use the 10K numbers. As far as I remember the first 10K bird were announced before they had announced the first bird with a 9K MSN number.

Please read back in this tread and the tread for 2019. The subject has been discussed more than once already. The link to the 2019 tread is in the first post in this tread.
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:44 am

Anyone knows the status of the FALs (Toulouse, Hamburg, Mobile, Tianjin) if they are to temporarily close down? Tianjin closed for a while but they're now operating under skeletal force. I mean how can an aircraft delivery happen if the operator's designated team is unable to travel because of the current situation?
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:47 pm

DarQuiet wrote:
Anyone knows the status of the FALs (Toulouse, Hamburg, Mobile, Tianjin) if they are to temporarily close down? Tianjin closed for a while but they're now operating under skeletal force. I mean how can an aircraft delivery happen if the operator's designated team is unable to travel because of the current situation?


Hamburg and Mobile never closed. Toulouse closed last week and partially opened again this week. Tianjin also was only closed for a week and opened again in February and their the first Delivery yesterday. Its possible that in some deliveries the airline worked with the local governments to get Aircraft's home. All of them are probably running in less capacity because of health and safety reasons at this point (other than Tianjin). But the reality is that many airlines have asked aircraft manufacturers to delay deliveries. Most of them are going to or have already stopped operating. We will still see some deliveries, but not as many for a while.
 
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:30 am

The A321neo prototype has returned to Hamburg to prepare for delivery to VietJet after over 9 months in Dresden. VietJet livery sharklets and engines, but otherwise still in Airbus house livery:
https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2015/0 ... 3-neo.html
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:42 am

bspc wrote:
DarQuiet wrote:
Anyone knows the status of the FALs (Toulouse, Hamburg, Mobile, Tianjin) if they are to temporarily close down? Tianjin closed for a while but they're now operating under skeletal force. I mean how can an aircraft delivery happen if the operator's designated team is unable to travel because of the current situation?


Hamburg and Mobile never closed. Toulouse closed last week and partially opened again this week. Tianjin also was only closed for a week and opened again in February and their the first Delivery yesterday. Its possible that in some deliveries the airline worked with the local governments to get Aircraft's home. All of them are probably running in less capacity because of health and safety reasons at this point (other than Tianjin). But the reality is that many airlines have asked aircraft manufacturers to delay deliveries. Most of them are going to or have already stopped operating. We will still see some deliveries, but not as many for a while.

Per this article: https://www.abendblatt.de/wirtschaft/ar ... ffice.html parts of the Hamburg FAL were temporarily shut down last Friday as new protective measures were installed. But no complete shutdown.
They increased the spacing between employees, where possible, and changed procedures to let people work after each other rather than next to each other. Employees that need to work in close quarters were provided masks, like the Beluga pilots. The entire workforce was separated into 'blue' and 'red' teams that don't ever meet.

Interestingly, Airbus isn't really worried about their own finances but are quite concerned that some of their very specialised suppliers could run into trouble.
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:31 am

mxaxai wrote:
bspc wrote:
DarQuiet wrote:
Anyone knows the status of the FALs (Toulouse, Hamburg, Mobile, Tianjin) if they are to temporarily close down? Tianjin closed for a while but they're now operating under skeletal force. I mean how can an aircraft delivery happen if the operator's designated team is unable to travel because of the current situation?


Hamburg and Mobile never closed. Toulouse closed last week and partially opened again this week. Tianjin also was only closed for a week and opened again in February and their the first Delivery yesterday. Its possible that in some deliveries the airline worked with the local governments to get Aircraft's home. All of them are probably running in less capacity because of health and safety reasons at this point (other than Tianjin). But the reality is that many airlines have asked aircraft manufacturers to delay deliveries. Most of them are going to or have already stopped operating. We will still see some deliveries, but not as many for a while.

Per this article: https://www.abendblatt.de/wirtschaft/ar ... ffice.html parts of the Hamburg FAL were temporarily shut down last Friday as new protective measures were installed. But no complete shutdown.
They increased the spacing between employees, where possible, and changed procedures to let people work after each other rather than next to each other. Employees that need to work in close quarters were provided masks, like the Beluga pilots. The entire workforce was separated into 'blue' and 'red' teams that don't ever meet.

Interestingly, Airbus isn't really worried about their own finances but are quite concerned that some of their very specialised suppliers could run into trouble.


Thank you, I didn't know that! Although the article is behind a paywall ;)
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 am

Rostock airport (RLG) is getting use as parking lot for A320's that can't be delivered during this crisis. https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/mecklenb ... ge302.html
9 aircraft are there already, 6 more could find room. The video in this article has a few shots of the parked jets at ~1:00 until ~1:30.

bspc wrote:
Thank you, I didn't know that! Although the article is behind a paywall ;)

Search the article " Corona-Krise: Wie Airbus jetzt in Hamburg produziert " on Google, then open the link from there. I didn't realize there was a paywall until you mentioned it...
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:09 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Rostock airport (RLG) is getting use as parking lot for A320's that can't be delivered during this crisis. https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/mecklenb ... ge302.html
9 aircraft are there already, 6 more could find room. The video in this article has a few shots of the parked jets at ~1:00 until ~1:30.

bspc wrote:
Thank you, I didn't know that! Although the article is behind a paywall ;)

Search the article " Corona-Krise: Wie Airbus jetzt in Hamburg produziert " on Google, then open the link from there. I didn't realize there was a paywall until you mentioned it...


That didn't work either, but running the site through Google Translate (and then viewing the original) worked. :lol:

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