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Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:58 pm

Welcome to the Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread, please discuss and add your comments below relating to:

- Algeria
- Egypt
- Libya
- Mauritania
- Morocco
- Tunisia
- Sudan

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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:07 pm

At some point, let's start discussing about will happen in th near future;

Transavia opens 14 routes to 2 countries from Montpellier - France!

In Morocco :
o Marrakech: 2 flights per week from € 54, 1st flight on April 3, 2020 in front of Air Arabia Maroc
o Agadir: 2 flights per week from € 44, 1st flight on June 20, 2020
o Oujda: 2 flights per week from € 44, 1st flight on June 27, 2020


In Tunisia :
o Tunis: 3 flights per week from € 54, 1st flight on April 5, 2020
o Djerba: 2 flights per week from € 54, 1st flight on June 13, 2020

Ok, but why MPL?
My mom with my aunt paid more thand € 300 rtn pp for their flights in April a week ... so not a good deal!

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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:46 pm

Nouvelair Tunisie goes non-charter to Gatwick, twice a week and to Manchester, three times a week.

Tunisair schedules only three flights a week to London, two to LGW and one LHR. Weird.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:35 am

TS-IOR wrote:
Nouvelair Tunisie goes non-charter to Gatwick, twice a week and to Manchester, three times a week.

Tunisair schedules only three flights a week to London, two to LGW and one LHR. Weird.


Could it be that TU leased out their LHR slots?
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:04 pm

Blerg wrote:
TS-IOR wrote:
Nouvelair Tunisie goes non-charter to Gatwick, twice a week and to Manchester, three times a week.

Tunisair schedules only three flights a week to London, two to LGW and one LHR. Weird.


Could it be that TU leased out their LHR slots?


No they have been withdrawn due to high delays rate.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:26 pm

TS-IOR wrote:
Blerg wrote:
TS-IOR wrote:
Nouvelair Tunisie goes non-charter to Gatwick, twice a week and to Manchester, three times a week.

Tunisair schedules only three flights a week to London, two to LGW and one LHR. Weird.


Could it be that TU leased out their LHR slots?


No they have been withdrawn due to high delays rate.


Wow really? They lost the slots because they were delayed? That's crazy, how come they couldn't do a better job if they knew that could happen, I am sure LHR has warned them a few times.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:51 pm

TS-IOR wrote:
Nouvelair Tunisie goes non-charter to Gatwick, twice a week and to Manchester, three times a week.

Tunisair schedules only three flights a week to London, two to LGW and one LHR. Weird.

Interesting, is it to compete with Easyjet new link to Hammamet?

Do you know more about Jasmin Airways? on the Maghreb and NA 2019 thread, launch was imminent!
Hope they are doing well and more reliable than TU... :lol:

Also on an excellent Flight-Report, the very experienced author mentioned many flights (at least 7 from 1pm) to Misrata Airport - MRA in Libya with probably one in A330 Libyan Airlines. So 2 questions:

- From where did Libyan Airlines get this A330? and only used for short routes?
- Is Tunisia trafic higher to Libya or ALG/Algeria, Morocco or France?

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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:49 pm

Jasmin Airways was expected to start commercial flights some weeks ago, but never happened. They are now flying ACMI for Tunisair Express.

Syphax Airlines two CRJs are flying ACMI in Nigeria for Arik Air

Lybian A330s have been in the fleet for years now and were shipped directly from Airbus. They now fly to Istanbul, Amman, Alexandria, Tunis, Sfax, Jeddah. Afriqyiah also has A330s and flying the same. Connections between Tunisia and Lybia are by far more important than with Morocco or Algeria and were even more frequent before the turmoils.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:53 am

TS-IOR wrote:
Jasmin Airways was expected to start commercial flights some weeks ago, but never happened. They are now flying ACMI for Tunisair Express.

Syphax Airlines two CRJs are flying ACMI in Nigeria for Arik Air

Lybian A330s have been in the fleet for years now and were shipped directly from Airbus. They now fly to Istanbul, Amman, Alexandria, Tunis, Sfax, Jeddah. Afriqyiah also has A330s and flying the same. Connections between Tunisia and Lybia are by far more important than with Morocco or Algeria and were even more frequent before the turmoils.


Who do they carry on the flights to Sfax? A330 seems like a lot of capacity, no? Or are many using this route as they entry point to Libya?
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:23 pm

They can even deploy an A330 to Djerba and won't struggle to fill it. They come back and forth for a number of affairs. Lately for some political misunderstanding between the Eastern half governed by General Haftar and the Western side managed by the so called official and worldwide recognized governement, flights between Tripoli and Amman were unable to route so they had to transfer booked passengers on several Nouvelair flights chartered by either Afriqyiah or Lybian. The Lybians do the Tripoli or Misrate to Tunis leg and Nouvelair goes back and forth Amman. Kinda funny.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:55 pm

TUN-MUC route got an increase from both TU and LH. Tunisair goes 5 weekly on days 1.3456. and Lufthansa 3 weekly on days ...4.67 with LH2634 and LH1744 on Saturday.. do not know the reason for that change in flight number.

Tunisair cancels LIS again after it's been listed on GDS with a single weekly flight for S20. Also Vienna is reduced to two after it's been 3 for some years now. Back to the historic Thursday and Sunday service.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:15 am

TS-IOR wrote:
They can even deploy an A330 to Djerba and won't struggle to fill it. They come back and forth for a number of affairs. Lately for some political misunderstanding between the Eastern half governed by General Haftar and the Western side managed by the so called official and worldwide recognized governement, flights between Tripoli and Amman were unable to route so they had to transfer booked passengers on several Nouvelair flights chartered by either Afriqyiah or Lybian. The Lybians do the Tripoli or Misrate to Tunis leg and Nouvelair goes back and forth Amman. Kinda funny.


Avec ces nouvelles, c'est inquiétant! ( The situation should be improved!)
Comment va évoluer la situation? ( Will the current situation improved?)
Merci pour ces précieuses infos, Nouvelair a dû réduire ses capacités depuis Tunis ou est-ce la saison faible? (Nouvelair is reducing flights only for low season or more?)

It's good you have a powerfull insight into Aviation in this region!
How do you view the news of Royal Air Maroc entering a global alliance the next April? And the direct impact :wink2: on Tunisair?
Will they reduce their strikes or delays? ;)

En tout cas, les grandes nouvelles du Maghreb et de Tunisie (qui a un marché aérien dynamique) viennent souvent de votre côté! Et c'est approuvé internationalement :yes:

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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Tunisair and RAM already don't sit at the same table. I see no impact other than the one happened already years ago when the Moroccans started taking healthy decisions and doing better airline business. OW will allow RAM to become a reknown network carrier. OW will allow RAM a worldwide networking. The Beijing route started lately is said to have a load factor of 70+ with 80% of customers Chinese connecting at CMN to Western Africa and South America.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:21 pm

TK is adding 4 weekly flights to TUN on days 1246 using a mix of A330 and A32S.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:39 pm

TS-IOR wrote:
TK is adding 4 weekly flights to TUN on days 1246 using a mix of A330 and A32S.

Which A/C is sent daily to TUN ?

What are the chances for TK or any ME3 carriers to open up new routes to hot tourist spots in Tunisia like Djerba - even seasonal?


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:arrow: Moroccan airports break new record with more than 25 million passengers handled in 2019


Domestic traffic accounts for around 3 million passengers, and recorded growth of + 22.46%. With an increase of + 9.80%, international flights represent more than 22 million customers.

Representing 79% of international traffic, passengers to and from the European market continued to grow. In 2019, Moroccan airports handled 17,464,911 passengers on routes with Europe, representing sustained growth of + 10.82% year-on-year.

This growth also concerns the segments of North America, the Maghreb, the Middle and Far East, and Africa, with respective evolution rates of + 16.89%, + 6.78%, +4 , 42% and + 4.29%.

Mohammed V Airport in Casablanca, which accounts for more than 41% of total air traffic, handled 10,306,293 passengers, with growth of around 5.88%. Growth was particularly strong for the airports of Dakhla (+ 26.73%), Marrakech (+ 21.13%) and Tangier (+ 20.07%), which respectively recorded 256,975; 6,396,394 and 1,353,860 travelers.


2020 should be an even better year with RAM joining OneWorld in April + AA flights there, let's not forget LCC increasing frequencies to regional cities! Well done Morocco!

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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:24 am

Tunisair is launching a one weekly flight to Zagreb.
 
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:42 pm

Royal Air Maroc (RAM) resumes flights to China despite the Covid-19:

(In French)
https://newsaero.info/airlines/royal-ai ... ?true=2640

From March 12, the Casablanca - Beijing route will again be served three times a week (Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays). It will be operated by Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner.
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As a reminder, the Casablanca - Beijing route was inaugurated on January 16, 2020; only 15 days before its suspension. RAM thus joins Air Algérie, which reopened on March 1, its Algiers - Beijing route. Since that date, its two weekly flights have been operational again.

Can we presume/guess the heat and high T°C in North Africa prevents the deadly virus from spreading out quickly compared to the rest of the world, thus allowing these airlines to anticipate the end of the outbreak?
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:54 pm

TS-IOR wrote:
TK is adding 4 weekly flights to TUN on days 1246 using a mix of A330 and A32S.


Also Ukraine International Airlines returns to Tunisia, four years after its departure!

It could have been a great news for TS-IOR, but these recent attacks near the US embassy will unfortunately calm down every one involved!

https://newsaero.info/airlines/ukraine- ... ?true=2636

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/ ... _3212.html

Anyway, may I ask are eastern European visitors frequently visit Tunisia outside business? A niche market or booming?
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Re: Maghreb & North African Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:40 pm

eastafspot wrote:
TS-IOR wrote:
TK is adding 4 weekly flights to TUN on days 1246 using a mix of A330 and A32S.


Also Ukraine International Airlines returns to Tunisia, four years after its departure!

It could have been a great news for TS-IOR, but these recent attacks near the US embassy will unfortunately calm down every one involved!

https://newsaero.info/airlines/ukraine- ... ?true=2636

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/ ... _3212.html

Anyway, may I ask are eastern European visitors frequently visit Tunisia outside business? A niche market or booming?


Before the attacks, Tunisia was extremely popular among Serbs. I remember back in the day TU used to send its A300 to BEG. These days a two weekly flight to TUN operated by TU's A320 is all we get. In summer they add flights from Monastir.

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