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a320flyer
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 15, 2020 12:44 pm

BNAMealer wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


I wonder if this is the end of the focus city at CVG?


It's sad to see, but I doubt it will have much effect on the operations. Having the base forced almost every mainline route to use a 737, even when a smaller mainline aircraft would've been more appropriate.

I will be much more concerned if the DL FA base or 9E pilot/FA bases are shut down.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 10:01 pm

Drove by Wilmington today. There is a legion of DL 767 parked there along with some smaller aircraft, usual ATI suspects, the Patriots 767, and an ANA 767. Lots of cargo too obviously.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 10:41 pm

a320flyer wrote:
BNAMealer wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


I wonder if this is the end of the focus city at CVG?


It's sad to see, but I doubt it will have much effect on the operations. Having the base forced almost every mainline route to use a 737, even when a smaller mainline aircraft would've been more appropriate.

I will be much more concerned if the DL FA base or 9E pilot/FA bases are shut down.


Yeah 737s always seemed too big for a lot of routes exCVG. I would say that a 717 base would have made more sense, but DL seems to be trying to offload those. Maybe when there's enough A220s in the fleet, CVG would get a base.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 2:02 pm

Some good news from Rickenbacker:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/ne ... umbus.html

These appear to be the Atlas flights coming in to LCK over the past week or so. Seems to be flying about 3x a week. Kalitta has also been flying quite a few charters as of late. Definitely been helping the loss of flights from EK and EY, primarily it seems.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 3:39 am

Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 1:48 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?


AS has already removed CVG-SEA from its current flight schedule, and the removal of CVG-SEA from AS flight schedules was also mentioned in the OAG Changes 5/3/2020 post (which can be found at https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1445633).

DL has also already removed CMH-SEA nonstop service from its current flight schedule, and the removal of CMH-SEA from DL flight schedules was also mentioned in the OAG Changes 4/26/2020 post (which can be found at https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1445235).

There are also plenty of 1-stop connecting options to SEA from CMH on AA, DL, UA, and WN.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 3:24 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 8:05 pm

a320flyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 2:13 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
a320flyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
a320flyer wrote:
Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.


Could not agree more! Especially with the relationship between AA and AS hopefully providing a good base of FF in CMH! I was happy to see AC returning (with a reduction) in the OAG thread, I think that is a very good sign. On a personal note, I have my first post COVD-19 travel booked for June 15th, CMH-CLT-RSW; RSW-CLT-CMH. Going to be very interesting and I have to confess I am excited about getting back in the air!

Stay safe everyone!
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 6:11 pm

brooklynchris13 wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:

There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.


Could not agree more! Especially with the relationship between AA and AS hopefully providing a good base of FF in CMH! I was happy to see AC returning (with a reduction) in the OAG thread, I think that is a very good sign. On a personal note, I have my first post COVD-19 travel booked for June 15th, CMH-CLT-RSW; RSW-CLT-CMH. Going to be very interesting and I have to confess I am excited about getting back in the air!

Stay safe everyone!


AS' CMH-SEA isn't completely whacked yet, so I'm guessing it comes down to what the DOT does/doesn't approve. (They're also proposing a drop of SAT and MSY, which are also interesting.)

Good catch on AC. DL's CMH-ATL goes from 2 to 4x/day in July (DTW and MSP get flights back, too), which is a step in the right direction. DAY-ATL doesn't come back, at least yet, but it's also a relief the smaller airports like CAK, TOL, or DAY weren't included in any of their drops.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 25, 2020 3:31 am

I am back to booking some personal trips for late this year through the end of the schedule. Airfares are incredibly cheap right now. Even better, DAY is now often cheaper than CMH or CVG for the flights I am looking at (to Reno NV, for example). Its been a long time since that was the case (although I would usually be willing to pay a bit more for the convenience of DAY).
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