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Jshank83
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 3:16 pm

DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 4:43 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


I wonder if this is the end of the focus city at CVG?
 
atbPy
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 9:56 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


Definitely sad to see. It will be hard to get that back if they even can.
 
a320flyer
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 15, 2020 12:44 pm

BNAMealer wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


I wonder if this is the end of the focus city at CVG?


It's sad to see, but I doubt it will have much effect on the operations. Having the base forced almost every mainline route to use a 737, even when a smaller mainline aircraft would've been more appropriate.

I will be much more concerned if the DL FA base or 9E pilot/FA bases are shut down.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 10:01 pm

Drove by Wilmington today. There is a legion of DL 767 parked there along with some smaller aircraft, usual ATI suspects, the Patriots 767, and an ANA 767. Lots of cargo too obviously.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 10:41 pm

a320flyer wrote:
BNAMealer wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
DL closing its pilot base at CVG. I had a feeling something like that might have been coming due to all of this. Sad to see.


I wonder if this is the end of the focus city at CVG?


It's sad to see, but I doubt it will have much effect on the operations. Having the base forced almost every mainline route to use a 737, even when a smaller mainline aircraft would've been more appropriate.

I will be much more concerned if the DL FA base or 9E pilot/FA bases are shut down.


Yeah 737s always seemed too big for a lot of routes exCVG. I would say that a 717 base would have made more sense, but DL seems to be trying to offload those. Maybe when there's enough A220s in the fleet, CVG would get a base.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 2:02 pm

Some good news from Rickenbacker:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/ne ... umbus.html

These appear to be the Atlas flights coming in to LCK over the past week or so. Seems to be flying about 3x a week. Kalitta has also been flying quite a few charters as of late. Definitely been helping the loss of flights from EK and EY, primarily it seems.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 3:39 am

Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 1:48 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?


AS has already removed CVG-SEA from its current flight schedule, and the removal of CVG-SEA from AS flight schedules was also mentioned in the OAG Changes 5/3/2020 post (which can be found at https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1445633).

DL has also already removed CMH-SEA nonstop service from its current flight schedule, and the removal of CMH-SEA from DL flight schedules was also mentioned in the OAG Changes 4/26/2020 post (which can be found at https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1445235).

There are also plenty of 1-stop connecting options to SEA from CMH on AA, DL, UA, and WN.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 3:24 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 8:05 pm

a320flyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 2:13 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
a320flyer wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Just a few months and a pandemic from announcing they'd run CMH-SEA double-daily seasonally, AS has now requested to drop CMH: https://mobile.twitter.com/WandrMe/stat ... 6036269056

...which makes no sense to me unless they've just decided to hand the market to DL.

edit- There's no reference to AS on CVG's Wikipedia page. Did it get dropped even before launch, too?

Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
a320flyer wrote:
Supposedly the launch is being pushed back until 2021, though chances of it actually happening are probably not all that great.


There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.


Could not agree more! Especially with the relationship between AA and AS hopefully providing a good base of FF in CMH! I was happy to see AC returning (with a reduction) in the OAG thread, I think that is a very good sign. On a personal note, I have my first post COVD-19 travel booked for June 15th, CMH-CLT-RSW; RSW-CLT-CMH. Going to be very interesting and I have to confess I am excited about getting back in the air!

Stay safe everyone!
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 24, 2020 6:11 pm

brooklynchris13 wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:

There's some question in that thread as to whether or not the requested drops would be temporary or permanent, so I guess it remains to be seen. If there's still AS signage a couple months after they discontinue CMH, it's possible it's a temporary shave as B6 has seemed to be doing.

edit- Here's that post/thread if anyone wants to discuss: viewtopic.php?p=22233245#p22233567


Seems unlikely this would be a permanent cut given the strong performance of this route which just a few weeks ago warranted the addition of a second flight.

If you’re looking to save cash during a downturn, a station with literally one flight a day seems like an obvious target. It can’t be efficient paying for the equipment and services required at that scale. I bet it will be back in due time. If AS doesn’t return, DL will definitely jump in.


Could not agree more! Especially with the relationship between AA and AS hopefully providing a good base of FF in CMH! I was happy to see AC returning (with a reduction) in the OAG thread, I think that is a very good sign. On a personal note, I have my first post COVD-19 travel booked for June 15th, CMH-CLT-RSW; RSW-CLT-CMH. Going to be very interesting and I have to confess I am excited about getting back in the air!

Stay safe everyone!


AS' CMH-SEA isn't completely whacked yet, so I'm guessing it comes down to what the DOT does/doesn't approve. (They're also proposing a drop of SAT and MSY, which are also interesting.)

Good catch on AC. DL's CMH-ATL goes from 2 to 4x/day in July (DTW and MSP get flights back, too), which is a step in the right direction. DAY-ATL doesn't come back, at least yet, but it's also a relief the smaller airports like CAK, TOL, or DAY weren't included in any of their drops.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon May 25, 2020 3:31 am

I am back to booking some personal trips for late this year through the end of the schedule. Airfares are incredibly cheap right now. Even better, DAY is now often cheaper than CMH or CVG for the flights I am looking at (to Reno NV, for example). Its been a long time since that was the case (although I would usually be willing to pay a bit more for the convenience of DAY).
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 7:28 pm

There's some talk that the suspensions/drops on the CARES exemption list may not actually be put into effect, which could bode well for CMH and AS.

bigred10k wrote:
I am back to booking some personal trips for late this year through the end of the schedule. Airfares are incredibly cheap right now. Even better, DAY is now often cheaper than CMH or CVG for the flights I am looking at (to Reno NV, for example). Its been a long time since that was the case (although I would usually be willing to pay a bit more for the convenience of DAY).


Good to see. I'm afraid this will be ugly for DAY.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 7:41 pm

Pudelhund wrote:
Drove by Wilmington today. There is a legion of DL 767 parked there along with some smaller aircraft, usual ATI suspects, the Patriots 767, and an ANA 767. Lots of cargo too obviously.


There are 21 767's from Delta and 16 717's here. They have been prepared for lengthy storage.

In addition, Amazon looks to be increasing the number of flights into ILN, rumored to go to 16 per night before years end.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu May 28, 2020 12:01 am

ILNFlyer wrote:
Pudelhund wrote:
Drove by Wilmington today. There is a legion of DL 767 parked there along with some smaller aircraft, usual ATI suspects, the Patriots 767, and an ANA 767. Lots of cargo too obviously.


There are 21 767's from Delta and 16 717's here. They have been prepared for lengthy storage.

In addition, Amazon looks to be increasing the number of flights into ILN, rumored to go to 16 per night before years end.


I went down to ILN on Memorial Day and saw the planes. It was a bit hard to see all of them, but it was sad to see them all sitting there. The 717s seemed to be covered in some plastic wrap so they might be there longer.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu May 28, 2020 11:46 pm

WN appears to be dropping CMH-BOS.

I just wish the environment were such that this could've opened the door for B6.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 12:56 am

DeltaRules wrote:
WN appears to be dropping CMH-BOS.

I just wish the environment were such that this could've opened the door for B6.


Here were the load factors for WN CMH-BOS from January 2019 through February 2020:
1/2019 - 45.57%
2/2019 - 54.37%
3/2019 - 70.12%
4/2019 - 59.40%
5/2019 - 64.23%
6/2019 - 62.04%
7/2019 - 70.24%
8/2019 - 76.22%
9/2019 - 72.57%
10/2019 - 71.12%
11/2019 - 51.15%
12/2019 - 59.18%
1/2020 - 51.00%
2/2020 - 63.00%

It did make sense for WN to drop CMH-BOS nonstop service with weak load factors on the CMH-BOS route. In addition, the passengers who were connecting onto the WN CMH-BOS nonstop flights from other cities will still have other 1-stop connecting options to BOS on WN once WN discontinues CMH-BOS nonstop service.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 6:32 am

ILNFlyer wrote:
In addition, Amazon looks to be increasing the number of flights into ILN, rumored to go to 16 per night before years end.

I have heard from folks at DHL/AMZ that the number will be increasing long before the end of the year (likely within the next couple of months).

DHL piece counts at CVG will apparently be at near peak levels in the coming weeks. I suspect AMZ is in the same boat.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 8:55 pm

jplatts wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
WN appears to be dropping CMH-BOS.

I just wish the environment were such that this could've opened the door for B6.


Here were the load factors for WN CMH-BOS from January 2019 through February 2020:
1/2019 - 45.57%
2/2019 - 54.37%
3/2019 - 70.12%
4/2019 - 59.40%
5/2019 - 64.23%
6/2019 - 62.04%
7/2019 - 70.24%
8/2019 - 76.22%
9/2019 - 72.57%
10/2019 - 71.12%
11/2019 - 51.15%
12/2019 - 59.18%
1/2020 - 51.00%
2/2020 - 63.00%

It did make sense for WN to drop CMH-BOS nonstop service with weak load factors on the CMH-BOS route. In addition, the passengers who were connecting onto the WN CMH-BOS nonstop flights from other cities will still have other 1-stop connecting options to BOS on WN once WN discontinues CMH-BOS nonstop service.


Discussion on another thread is that as part of the WN schedule extension, BOS has also lost DAL/HOU/IND/MKE/ATL. Are we thinking these are permanent cuts including the big hubs? Those big hubs being cut are much more surprising.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 9:18 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
jplatts wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
WN appears to be dropping CMH-BOS.

I just wish the environment were such that this could've opened the door for B6.


Here were the load factors for WN CMH-BOS from January 2019 through February 2020:
1/2019 - 45.57%
2/2019 - 54.37%
3/2019 - 70.12%
4/2019 - 59.40%
5/2019 - 64.23%
6/2019 - 62.04%
7/2019 - 70.24%
8/2019 - 76.22%
9/2019 - 72.57%
10/2019 - 71.12%
11/2019 - 51.15%
12/2019 - 59.18%
1/2020 - 51.00%
2/2020 - 63.00%

It did make sense for WN to drop CMH-BOS nonstop service with weak load factors on the CMH-BOS route. In addition, the passengers who were connecting onto the WN CMH-BOS nonstop flights from other cities will still have other 1-stop connecting options to BOS on WN once WN discontinues CMH-BOS nonstop service.


Discussion on another thread is that as part of the WN schedule extension, BOS has also lost DAL/HOU/IND/MKE/ATL. Are we thinking these are permanent cuts including the big hubs? Those big hubs being cut are much more surprising.


I'm not that surprised. WN has historically struggled in the NE, and those flights are likely fat instead of meat at this point.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 3:20 pm

OAG thread quick glance:
-DL CMH-ATL regains a 5th daily flight sometime in July (looks like it's 5x 717). CVG-ATL goes from 5 to 6.
-AS CMH-SEA remains split between a nonstop and a tag on MSP.
-The start of G4 LCK-ORF has still been pushed back.
-No updates for DAY.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:49 pm

CMH sent off the last scheduled Delt MD-88 flight from the airport with a water cannon salute:

https://www.facebook.com/50961568286/po ... =null&vh=e

The engine spool-up is particularly sexy. Never thought I'd miss this aircraft, but here we are.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:03 pm

AS' CMH-MSP-SEA was operated by an A321NEO, specifically, the one with the More To Love livery.

flyCMH wrote:
CMH sent off the last scheduled Delt MD-88 flight from the airport with a water cannon salute:

https://www.facebook.com/50961568286/po ... =null&vh=e

The engine spool-up is particularly sexy. Never thought I'd miss this aircraft, but here we are.


It was N978DL, which continued to MEM and will have one last RON in RIC before returning to ATL and being ferried to BYH. I flew it twice, 16 days apart in 2016.

I didn't really like them when I was a kid and got to where I was alright with the M88 as an adult, but hate seeing types retired. The Mad Dogs had a more distinctive airplane smell than others.

The retirement of both it and the M90 will definitely make the skies a little more boring in terms of variety. At least we might see a 3-2 configuration again someday with the A220.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:39 pm

It is a little far out to say, but DL appears to be giving CVG-YYZ the axe on Dec 18. It has not operated for the winter/early spring for the last few years, so perhaps it will return next summer (or possible on WS), but I think it's safe to say it's gone for the rest of 2020.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:03 pm

Subject to change of course, but at the moment Tuesday, July 7 seems to be a big day for AA at CMH, where the schedule goes back to something much closer to normal:

- 1x LAX nonstop resumes (319)
- 1x PHX nonstop resumes (319)
- 5x DFW goes from all regional to 4x mainline (4x 738 and 1x 319)
- 3x ORD goes to 9x (no mainline)
- 2x PHL goes to 6x (no mainline)
- 4x CLT goes to 8x (no mainline)
- 2x MIA no changes

Have not looked at DL or UA yet.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:30 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
Subject to change of course, but at the moment Tuesday, July 7 seems to be a big day for AA at CMH, where the schedule goes back to something much closer to normal:

- 1x LAX nonstop resumes (319)
- 1x PHX nonstop resumes (319)
- 5x DFW goes from all regional to 4x mainline (4x 738 and 1x 319)
- 3x ORD goes to 9x (no mainline)
- 2x PHL goes to 6x (no mainline)
- 4x CLT goes to 8x (no mainline)
- 2x MIA no changes

Have not looked at DL or UA yet.


Did AA resume LGA?

DL:
-2x->5x ATL (all 717)
-2x->3x DTW (all E70/75)
-1x->2x MSP (all CR9)
Looks like BOS, JFK, LGA, RDU, LAX, SLC are all still suspended.

UA:
-3x ORD (E70/75)
-2x IAD (E70)
-2x IAH resumes (E75)
-2x EWR (E70/75)
-1x DEN resumes with mainline (319)
SFO still suspended.

And, to continue the theme, DAY:
AA:
-6x CLT (CRJ/CR7/CR9) (I thought OH retired the -200?)
-5x ORD (3 CR7, 2 ERJ)
-4x PHL (3 CR7, 1 ERJ)
-4x DFW (E75)
-4x DCA (1 CR9, 1 CR7, 2 CRJ)
-2x LGA (CR7)

DL:
-2x DTW (CRJ)
ATL, MSP still suspended.

UA:
-2x ORD (CRJ)
-1x IAD (ERJ)
DEN still suspended.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:38 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
Subject to change of course, but at the moment Tuesday, July 7 seems to be a big day for AA at CMH, where the schedule goes back to something much closer to normal:

- 1x LAX nonstop resumes (319)
- 1x PHX nonstop resumes (319)
- 5x DFW goes from all regional to 4x mainline (4x 738 and 1x 319)
- 3x ORD goes to 9x (no mainline)
- 2x PHL goes to 6x (no mainline)
- 4x CLT goes to 8x (no mainline)
- 2x MIA no changes

Have not looked at DL or UA yet.


Did AA resume LGA?

DL:
-2x->5x ATL (all 717)
-2x->3x DTW (all E70/75)
-1x->2x MSP (all CR9)
Looks like BOS, JFK, LGA, RDU, LAX, SLC are all still suspended.

UA:
-3x ORD (E70/75)
-2x IAD (E70)
-2x IAH resumes (E75)
-2x EWR (E70/75)
-1x DEN resumes with mainline (319)
SFO still suspended.

And, to continue the theme, DAY:
AA:
-6x CLT (CRJ/CR7/CR9) (I thought OH retired the -200?)
-5x ORD (3 CR7, 2 ERJ)
-4x PHL (3 CR7, 1 ERJ)
-4x DFW (E75)
-4x DCA (1 CR9, 1 CR7, 2 CRJ)
-2x LGA (CR7)

DL:
-2x DTW (CRJ)
ATL, MSP still suspended.

UA:
-2x ORD (CRJ)
-1x IAD (ERJ)
DEN still suspended.


Yes. Thanks for mentioning LGA, according to the booking site it goes from no nonstops on 7/6 to 6x on 7/7 (all regional). Also, there was a typo in my original post DFW should read 3x 738 and 1x 319 (in addition to 1x Envoy). I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:04 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?


I agree that WN re-adding CMH-OAK nonstop service might be a possibility if UA doesn't re-add CMH-SFO nonstop service once demand returns to normal levels as the PDEW of CMH-SFO/OAK/SJC was approximately 271 passengers per day in Q3 2019.

UA re-adding CVG-SFO nonstop service might also be a possibility once demand returns to normal levels with (a) the PDEW of CVG-SFO/OAK/SJC was 336 passengers per day in Q3 2019, (b) F9 no longer serving SFO nonstop from CVG, and (c) UA having a FF base in the San Francisco Bay Area to support the return of UA CVG-SFO nonstop service.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:15 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
Subject to change of course, but at the moment Tuesday, July 7 seems to be a big day for AA at CMH, where the schedule goes back to something much closer to normal:

- 1x LAX nonstop resumes (319)
- 1x PHX nonstop resumes (319)
- 5x DFW goes from all regional to 4x mainline (4x 738 and 1x 319)
- 3x ORD goes to 9x (no mainline)
- 2x PHL goes to 6x (no mainline)
- 4x CLT goes to 8x (no mainline)
- 2x MIA no changes

Have not looked at DL or UA yet.


Did AA resume LGA?

DL:
-2x->5x ATL (all 717)
-2x->3x DTW (all E70/75)
-1x->2x MSP (all CR9)
Looks like BOS, JFK, LGA, RDU, LAX, SLC are all still suspended.

UA:
-3x ORD (E70/75)
-2x IAD (E70)
-2x IAH resumes (E75)
-2x EWR (E70/75)
-1x DEN resumes with mainline (319)
SFO still suspended.

And, to continue the theme, DAY:
AA:
-6x CLT (CRJ/CR7/CR9) (I thought OH retired the -200?)
-5x ORD (3 CR7, 2 ERJ)
-4x PHL (3 CR7, 1 ERJ)
-4x DFW (E75)
-4x DCA (1 CR9, 1 CR7, 2 CRJ)
-2x LGA (CR7)

DL:
-2x DTW (CRJ)
ATL, MSP still suspended.

UA:
-2x ORD (CRJ)
-1x IAD (ERJ)
DEN still suspended.


Yes. Thanks for mentioning LGA, according to the booking site it goes from no nonstops on 7/6 to 6x on 7/7 (all regional). Also, there was a typo in my original post DFW should read 3x 738 and 1x 319 (in addition to 1x Envoy). I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?


That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:

Did AA resume LGA?

DL:
-2x->5x ATL (all 717)
-2x->3x DTW (all E70/75)
-1x->2x MSP (all CR9)
Looks like BOS, JFK, LGA, RDU, LAX, SLC are all still suspended.

UA:
-3x ORD (E70/75)
-2x IAD (E70)
-2x IAH resumes (E75)
-2x EWR (E70/75)
-1x DEN resumes with mainline (319)
SFO still suspended.

And, to continue the theme, DAY:
AA:
-6x CLT (CRJ/CR7/CR9) (I thought OH retired the -200?)
-5x ORD (3 CR7, 2 ERJ)
-4x PHL (3 CR7, 1 ERJ)
-4x DFW (E75)
-4x DCA (1 CR9, 1 CR7, 2 CRJ)
-2x LGA (CR7)

DL:
-2x DTW (CRJ)
ATL, MSP still suspended.

UA:
-2x ORD (CRJ)
-1x IAD (ERJ)
DEN still suspended.


Yes. Thanks for mentioning LGA, according to the booking site it goes from no nonstops on 7/6 to 6x on 7/7 (all regional). Also, there was a typo in my original post DFW should read 3x 738 and 1x 319 (in addition to 1x Envoy). I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?


That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight


Ah, I was afraid of that. Thanks. I guess we wait and see.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:43 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:

Did AA resume LGA?

DL:
-2x->5x ATL (all 717)
-2x->3x DTW (all E70/75)
-1x->2x MSP (all CR9)
Looks like BOS, JFK, LGA, RDU, LAX, SLC are all still suspended.

UA:
-3x ORD (E70/75)
-2x IAD (E70)
-2x IAH resumes (E75)
-2x EWR (E70/75)
-1x DEN resumes with mainline (319)
SFO still suspended.

And, to continue the theme, DAY:
AA:
-6x CLT (CRJ/CR7/CR9) (I thought OH retired the -200?)
-5x ORD (3 CR7, 2 ERJ)
-4x PHL (3 CR7, 1 ERJ)
-4x DFW (E75)
-4x DCA (1 CR9, 1 CR7, 2 CRJ)
-2x LGA (CR7)

DL:
-2x DTW (CRJ)
ATL, MSP still suspended.

UA:
-2x ORD (CRJ)
-1x IAD (ERJ)
DEN still suspended.


Yes. Thanks for mentioning LGA, according to the booking site it goes from no nonstops on 7/6 to 6x on 7/7 (all regional). Also, there was a typo in my original post DFW should read 3x 738 and 1x 319 (in addition to 1x Envoy). I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?


That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight


I knew something was up when I saw them still advertising CRJ-200s.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:33 am

I was doing my nightly browse through FR24 and noticed a Delta Private Jets departure station 3AM from CMH. The destination is Ramsar Airport in Iran. Certainly must be an error right?
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:21 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:

Yes. Thanks for mentioning LGA, according to the booking site it goes from no nonstops on 7/6 to 6x on 7/7 (all regional). Also, there was a typo in my original post DFW should read 3x 738 and 1x 319 (in addition to 1x Envoy). I hope SFO comes back on UA at some point. If not WN has to reconsider OAK, right?


That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight


I knew something was up when I saw them still advertising CRJ-200s.


Revisiting the AA CMH July schedule (this time AFTER the update), it’s a mixed bag. Frustratingly, the west coast PHX and LAX flights remain suspended through July. On the flip side, mainline does return on the DFW flights (mix of 319 and 738), and LGA is restored to at least daily (Republic E175).

Also of interest from today’s OAG thread, AS remains at 1x on CMH-SEA in July, and there are some unexpected YOY fall frequency increases from NK (FLL/MCO/TPA all daily or more for NOV/DEC.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:38 pm

CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight


I knew something was up when I saw them still advertising CRJ-200s.


Revisiting the AA CMH July schedule (this time AFTER the update), it’s a mixed bag. Frustratingly, the west coast PHX and LAX flights remain suspended through July. On the flip side, mainline does return on the DFW flights (mix of 319 and 738), and LGA is restored to at least daily (Republic E175).

Also of interest from today’s OAG thread, AS remains at 1x on CMH-SEA in July, and there are some unexpected YOY fall frequency increases from NK (FLL/MCO/TPA all daily or more for NOV/DEC.


Looks like DCA comes back, too:

AA CLT-CMH JUL 7>5[8]
AA CMH-DCA JUL 3>1.0[4]
AA CMH-DFW JUL 4>3[5]
AA CMH-JFK JUL 0.8>0[1.0]
AA CMH-LAX JUL 0.8>0[1.8]
AA CMH-LGA JUL 4>1.3[5]
AA CMH-MIA JUL 3>2[4]
AA CMH-ORD JUL 7>4[9]
AA CMH-PHL JUL 5>3[5]
AA CMH-PHX JUL 0.8>0[1.9]
A310/319/320/321/333, ARJ, BN2, B717/722/73S/733/734/735/73G/738/739/744/757/753/767/763/764/777, CR1/2/7/9, DH6, 328, EM2/ERJ/E70/E75/E90, F28/100, J31, L10/12/15, DC9/D93/D94/D95/M80/M88/M90/D10, SF3, SST
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:05 am

CMHtraveler wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

That's because July 7th onward hasn't been updated by AA yet, new schedule will be loaded in tonight


I knew something was up when I saw them still advertising CRJ-200s.


Revisiting the AA CMH July schedule (this time AFTER the update), it’s a mixed bag. Frustratingly, the west coast PHX and LAX flights remain suspended through July. On the flip side, mainline does return on the DFW flights (mix of 319 and 738), and LGA is restored to at least daily (Republic E175).

Also of interest from today’s OAG thread, AS remains at 1x on CMH-SEA in July, and there are some unexpected YOY fall frequency increases from NK (FLL/MCO/TPA all daily or more for NOV/DEC.


Using 7/14, as you said, DFW gets mainline back 3x/day (1 319 2 738). CLT, MIA, and PHL stay at 4, 2, and 2x/day respectively. ORD gains a flight, but the last flight out appears to be at 1:30pm. LGA and DCA are each 1x/daily.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:33 pm

Apologies if mentioned and if i missed it, but CAK-IAH is bookable starting October 14, operated with a E175.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:34 pm

krod031 wrote:
Apologies if mentioned and if i missed it, but CAK-IAH is bookable starting October 14, operated with a E175.


That's great news if they decided to bring it (and, hopefully, DAY-IAH) back, but I'm a little hesitant given UA's schedule might not be solid that far out.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:30 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
krod031 wrote:
Apologies if mentioned and if i missed it, but CAK-IAH is bookable starting October 14, operated with a E175.


That's great news if they decided to bring it (and, hopefully, DAY-IAH) back, but I'm a little hesitant given UA's schedule might not be solid that far out.


Didnt see DAY-IAH available, but I do agree on being hesitant about CAK-IAH. But hey, hopefully it sticks!
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:53 pm

Looking at the week of July 12 - specifically Thursday, July 16 for daily carriers - this is what's presently in store for air service from CMH/LCK in the month of July:

AA - 23 flights: 5x CLT, 5x ORD, 4x PHL,42x DFW, 2x MIA, 1x DCA, 1x LGA - mainline to DFW (3x 738, 1x 319)
AS - 1 flight: 1x SEA - A320
DL - 10 flights: 5x ATL, 3x DTW, 2x MSP - ATL on the 717, MSP on the CR9 and DTW on the E75
NK - 3 flights: 1x MCO, 1x FLL, 1x LAS
WN - 23* flights: 3x BWI, 4x MDW, 3x MCO, 2x ATL, 1x DCA, 1x DEN, 1x DAL, 1x HOU, 2x RSW 1x BNA 1x TPA 1x STL (*LAS is 1x daily & 5x weekly)
UA - 10 flights: 3x ORD, 2x IAD, 2x EWR, 2x IAH, 1x DEN - A319 to DEN, the rest on E70/E75

F9 - 3x weekly: 2x DEN (Sun/Thu) - 1x MCO (Sat)

TOTAL: approx 70 peak daily flights from CMH

G4:
2x weekly to CHS (Mon/Fri)
4x weekly to SFB (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
3x weekly to VPS (SunThu/Sat)
2x weekly to FLL (Sun/Thu)
2x weekly to JAX (Wed/Sat)
5x weekly to MYR (Sun/Mon/Thu-Sat)
4x weekly to PGD (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
2x weekly to SRQ (Sun/Thu)
3x weekly to SAV (Sun/Thu/Sat)
5x weekly to PIE (Sun/Tue-Thu/Sat)

TOTAL: 32 weekly flights from LCK
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:19 pm

flyCMH wrote:
Looking at the week of July 12 - specifically Thursday, July 16 for daily carriers - this is what's presently in store for air service from CMH/LCK in the month of July:

AA - 23 flights: 5x CLT, 5x ORD, 4x PHL,42x DFW, 2x MIA, 1x DCA, 1x LGA - mainline to DFW (3x 738, 1x 319)
AS - 1 flight: 1x SEA - A320
DL - 10 flights: 5x ATL, 3x DTW, 2x MSP - ATL on the 717, MSP on the CR9 and DTW on the E75
NK - 3 flights: 1x MCO, 1x FLL, 1x LAS
WN - 23* flights: 3x BWI, 4x MDW, 3x MCO, 2x ATL, 1x DCA, 1x DEN, 1x DAL, 1x HOU, 2x RSW 1x BNA 1x TPA 1x STL (*LAS is 1x daily & 5x weekly)
UA - 10 flights: 3x ORD, 2x IAD, 2x EWR, 2x IAH, 1x DEN - A319 to DEN, the rest on E70/E75

F9 - 3x weekly: 2x DEN (Sun/Thu) - 1x MCO (Sat)

TOTAL: approx 70 peak daily flights from CMH

G4:
2x weekly to CHS (Mon/Fri)
4x weekly to SFB (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
3x weekly to VPS (SunThu/Sat)
2x weekly to FLL (Sun/Thu)
2x weekly to JAX (Wed/Sat)
5x weekly to MYR (Sun/Mon/Thu-Sat)
4x weekly to PGD (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
2x weekly to SRQ (Sun/Thu)
3x weekly to SAV (Sun/Thu/Sat)
5x weekly to PIE (Sun/Tue-Thu/Sat)

TOTAL: 32 weekly flights from LCK


Thank you for putting this together. Sad to see another month without a single nonstop to anywhere in California (or PHX for that matter), but certainly an improvement over May and June, particularly with the return of some mainline flights on AA and UA. I’m sure someone will pick up the west coast slack in due time, just a question of when.

G4 is an interesting story as they’ve been planning a robust schedule but, according to the G4 thread, evaluating every single flight based on profitability. A quick glance at FR24 shows that the number of scheduled flights that actually depart vs. cancellations is extremely hit or miss. Also, for anyone who didn’t see it, the Dispatch this week ran a rather unflattering piece on their current operation at LCK. Yikes:

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20200 ... oronavirus
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:28 pm

flyCMH wrote:
Looking at the week of July 12 - specifically Thursday, July 16 for daily carriers - this is what's presently in store for air service from CMH/LCK in the month of July:

AA - 23 flights: 5x CLT, 5x ORD, 4x PHL,42x DFW, 2x MIA, 1x DCA, 1x LGA - mainline to DFW (3x 738, 1x 319)
AS - 1 flight: 1x SEA - A320
DL - 10 flights: 5x ATL, 3x DTW, 2x MSP - ATL on the 717, MSP on the CR9 and DTW on the E75
NK - 3 flights: 1x MCO, 1x FLL, 1x LAS
WN - 23* flights: 3x BWI, 4x MDW, 3x MCO, 2x ATL, 1x DCA, 1x DEN, 1x DAL, 1x HOU, 2x RSW 1x BNA 1x TPA 1x STL (*LAS is 1x daily & 5x weekly)
UA - 10 flights: 3x ORD, 2x IAD, 2x EWR, 2x IAH, 1x DEN - A319 to DEN, the rest on E70/E75

F9 - 3x weekly: 2x DEN (Sun/Thu) - 1x MCO (Sat)

TOTAL: approx 70 peak daily flights from CMH

G4:
2x weekly to CHS (Mon/Fri)
4x weekly to SFB (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
3x weekly to VPS (SunThu/Sat)
2x weekly to FLL (Sun/Thu)
2x weekly to JAX (Wed/Sat)
5x weekly to MYR (Sun/Mon/Thu-Sat)
4x weekly to PGD (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
2x weekly to SRQ (Sun/Thu)
3x weekly to SAV (Sun/Thu/Sat)
5x weekly to PIE (Sun/Tue-Thu/Sat)

TOTAL: 32 weekly flights from LCK


AC comes back in early September 3x daily to YYZ, but it looks like it jumps to four by the end of the month.

Also, CLE gets the E175 to YYZ, so I'm wondering if that might be in our future.
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:48 pm

flyCMH wrote:
Looking at the week of July 12 - specifically Thursday, July 16 for daily carriers - this is what's presently in store for air service from CMH/LCK in the month of July:

AA - 23 flights: 5x CLT, 5x ORD, 4x PHL,42x DFW, 2x MIA, 1x DCA, 1x LGA - mainline to DFW (3x 738, 1x 319)
AS - 1 flight: 1x SEA - A320
DL - 10 flights: 5x ATL, 3x DTW, 2x MSP - ATL on the 717, MSP on the CR9 and DTW on the E75
NK - 3 flights: 1x MCO, 1x FLL, 1x LAS
WN - 23* flights: 3x BWI, 4x MDW, 3x MCO, 2x ATL, 1x DCA, 1x DEN, 1x DAL, 1x HOU, 2x RSW 1x BNA 1x TPA 1x STL (*LAS is 1x daily & 5x weekly)
UA - 10 flights: 3x ORD, 2x IAD, 2x EWR, 2x IAH, 1x DEN - A319 to DEN, the rest on E70/E75

F9 - 3x weekly: 2x DEN (Sun/Thu) - 1x MCO (Sat)

TOTAL: approx 70 peak daily flights from CMH

G4:
2x weekly to CHS (Mon/Fri)
4x weekly to SFB (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
3x weekly to VPS (SunThu/Sat)
2x weekly to FLL (Sun/Thu)
2x weekly to JAX (Wed/Sat)
5x weekly to MYR (Sun/Mon/Thu-Sat)
4x weekly to PGD (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
2x weekly to SRQ (Sun/Thu)
3x weekly to SAV (Sun/Thu/Sat)
5x weekly to PIE (Sun/Tue-Thu/Sat)

TOTAL: 32 weekly flights from LCK


Great work putting this together. This is the week I am going to resume flying and I will be on a few of those AA flights.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:03 am

DeltaRules wrote:
AC comes back in early September 3x daily to YYZ, but it looks like it jumps to four by the end of the month.

Also, CLE gets the E175 to YYZ, so I'm wondering if that might be in our future.


I had noticed that, but not putting much credence in schedules until about a month out. That being said, not sure how likely CMH is to see E75s. No other city in the region is getting that treatment, except for one IND-YYZ flight going to a CR9. Not sure also if Air Canada is finished playing musical Express carriers and still shuffling them around. A lot can still change by the time September rolls around.
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:04 pm

Found this over at Flyertalk, but AA is apparently now the #1 airline in CVG (as measured by number of flights - 20 per day compared to Delta's 16).
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 pm

bigred10k wrote:
Found this over at Flyertalk, but AA is apparently now the #1 airline in CVG (as measured by number of flights - 20 per day compared to Delta's 16).
Wow, never thought I would hear that... hopefully it's only (very) temporary or that's very bad news for the future of DL.

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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 pm

RallyLegacy wrote:
bigred10k wrote:
Found this over at Flyertalk, but AA is apparently now the #1 airline in CVG (as measured by number of flights - 20 per day compared to Delta's 16).
Wow, never thought I would hear that... hopefully it's only (very) temporary or that's very bad news for the future of DL.

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AA's been more aggressive in reactivating its network, so I wouldn't read too much into it yet. Look at CMH above as another example.

flyCMH wrote:
G4:
2x weekly to CHS (Mon/Fri)
4x weekly to SFB (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
3x weekly to VPS (Sun/Thu/Sat)
2x weekly to FLL (Sun/Thu)
2x weekly to JAX (Wed/Sat)
5x weekly to MYR (Sun/Mon/Thu-Sat)
4x weekly to PGD (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)
2x weekly to SRQ (Sun/Thu)
3x weekly to SAV (Sun/Thu/Sat)
5x weekly to PIE (Sun/Tue-Thu/Sat)

TOTAL: 32 weekly flights from LCK


Operations by day:
Sun- 6 (VPS, FLL, MYR, SRQ, SAV, PIE)
Mon- 4 (CHS, SFB, MYR, PGD)
Tue- 1 (PIE)
Wed- 4 (SFB, JAX, PGD, PIE)
Thu- 6 (VPS, FLL, MYR, SRQ, SAV, PIE)
Fri- 4 (CHS, SFB, MYR, PGD)
Sat- 7 (SFB, VPS, JAX, MYR, PGD, SAV, PIE)

There are some days where LCK is hopping. I can't remember if ORF was/is to be 2 or 3x/week, but that would be even more.
A310/319/320/321/333, ARJ, BN2, B717/722/73S/733/734/735/73G/738/739/744/757/753/767/763/764/777, CR1/2/7/9, DH6, 328, EM2/ERJ/E70/E75/E90, F28/100, J31, L10/12/15, DC9/D93/D94/D95/M80/M88/M90/D10, SF3, SST
 
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Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:23 pm

flyCMH wrote:
Looking at the week of July 12 - specifically Thursday, July 16 for daily carriers - this is what's presently in store for air service from CMH/LCK in the month of July:

AA - 23 flights: 5x CLT, 5x ORD, 4x PHL,42x DFW, 2x MIA, 1x DCA, 1x LGA - mainline to DFW (3x 738, 1x 319)
AS - 1 flight: 1x SEA - A320
DL - 10 flights: 5x ATL, 3x DTW, 2x MSP - ATL on the 717, MSP on the CR9 and DTW on the E75
NK - 3 flights: 1x MCO, 1x FLL, 1x LAS
WN - 23* flights: 3x BWI, 4x MDW, 3x MCO, 2x ATL, 1x DCA, 1x DEN, 1x DAL, 1x HOU, 2x RSW 1x BNA 1x TPA 1x STL (*LAS is 1x daily & 5x weekly)
UA - 10 flights: 3x ORD, 2x IAD, 2x EWR, 2x IAH, 1x DEN - A319 to DEN, the rest on E70/E75

F9 - 3x weekly: 2x DEN (Sun/Thu) - 1x MCO (Sat)

TOTAL: approx 70 peak daily flights from CMH


Not sure when they re-loaded it, but I did a dummy booking for a potential day trip to ATL for the DL Museum just now and it's showing CMH-LGA is bookable on July 7th.
A310/319/320/321/333, ARJ, BN2, B717/722/73S/733/734/735/73G/738/739/744/757/753/767/763/764/777, CR1/2/7/9, DH6, 328, EM2/ERJ/E70/E75/E90, F28/100, J31, L10/12/15, DC9/D93/D94/D95/M80/M88/M90/D10, SF3, SST
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