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Philippine747
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:24 am

RP-C5915 on the way home from Canada. This is the 11th out of the 12 Q400 NextGens on order by PAL/PALex, and the first frame manufactured under de Havilland Canada instead of Bombardier. Unsure if it now writes "de Havilland Canada Q400" under the cockpit windows. In perspective, the safety cards still show "Bombardier."
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:42 pm

Philippine747 wrote:
RP-C5915 on the way home from Canada. This is the 11th out of the 12 Q400 NextGens on order by PAL/PALex, and the first frame manufactured under de Havilland Canada instead of Bombardier. Unsure if it now writes "de Havilland Canada Q400" under the cockpit windows. In perspective, the safety cards still show "Bombardier."

They might want to take their sweet time at one of the stopover points due to the ash fall and wait to get the "all clear" before proceeding home to MNL. OTOH, Taal's eruption could take a while and they may decide to fly into CEB instead. :airplane:

https://businessmirror.com.ph/2020/01/1 ... fall-woes/

In view of the situation at NAIA, the opening of Terminal 2 (reportedly set this coming July) and the construction of the new parallel runway at CRK have become more urgent necessities. Likewise, this has taken on a greater importance...although they're both well advised to heed all ICAO requirements for the new runways. :alert: ...from SkyscraperCity.....

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:42 pm

Starlux airlines will launch flights to CEB.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:16 am

Qatar Airways proposes to resume service to Cebu thrice weekly from 08 April 2020. Airlineroute reports that 787-8 will be used on this route.
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Devilfish wrote:
They might want to take their sweet time at one of the stopover points due to the ash fall and wait to get the "all clear" before proceeding home to MNL. OTOH, Taal's eruption could take a while and they may decide to fly into CEB


Radarbox shows that it arrived in MNL earlier this morning from Thailand. Probably doing some CAAP and BOC formalities before being ferried to CRK/CEB.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:32 am

Philippine747 wrote:
Radarbox shows that it arrived in MNL earlier this morning from Thailand. Probably doing some CAAP and BOC formalities before being ferried to CRK/CEB.

Yes...Philstar reported that it took six days and eight stopovers before it landed in MNL..... :airplane: .....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... sh-8-fleet


Per Flightglobal, the two latest Dash-8s of PAL are leased from TrueNoord and will be based at CRK.....

https://www.flightglobal.com/philippine ... 42.article


Curious that no pictures of SGL are surfacing now..... :scratchchin:



Meanwhile, construction work on the new Bicol International airport is now progressing steadily...from SkysraperCity.....

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:46 am

Devilfish wrote:
Yes...Philstar reported that it took six days and eight stopovers before it landed in MNL..... :airplane: .....


Also... it now shows De Havilland Canada under the cockpit window :D
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:48 am

Devilfish wrote:
Curious that no pictures of SGL are surfacing now..... :scratchchin:


DOTr do not regularly update on ongoing construction activities in SGL, knowing that they have enormous number of projects under Build 3x, thus no new photos were released to public over the past month.

On the other hand, Public Private Partnership selection's committee review of CCCC-MacroAsia bid for SGL will be delayed re Taal eruption.

https://business.inquirer.net/287438/ta ... rport-plan

“Despite that, the PPP had already issued the notice of qualification and we expect to complete the results of the technical and financial proposal evaluation by the end of January,” he added.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:35 pm

SkyHigher wrote:
If Rao-Saavedra consortium enters the Swiss Challenge, they are like monopolizing the major airport projects here--from CEB T2, CRK T2 (construction only) and this, though i'll support that instead of NAIA oligarchs' proposal, lol.

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With the groundbreaking happening in 2 days, I think SMC and DOTr should postpone it as RSA needs to attend on personal matters

Whatever they do, I wish there would be something like this people mover for the major gateways to connect to light rail stations -- even if not as luxurious.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycEvp8fCvw

It's yet to be confirmed for NAIA...while CRK and NMIA have their own proposed rail links. I think it's a much needed, less disruptive, more practical and economical project than the proposed subway for Metro Manila.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:41 pm

When is the ground breaking for new Manila airport? When is it planned to open 2024 or 2025?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:19 pm

georgiabill wrote:
When is the ground breaking for new Manila airport? When is it planned to open 2024 or 2025?

As noted in #50, Jan 15, 2020 -- although the date had passed and we have not read any report about it. Anticipating Phase I opening in 2024 is quite optimistic. :optimist:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:28 am

Jet bridges for GES have arrived will probably be installed soon.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/philipp ... 865413226/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:31 am

Meanwhile Z2 is planning to open new domestic flights at ZAM, GES and DGT this year.
https://www.bworldonline.com/airasia-se ... dumaguete/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:40 pm

AB330 wrote:
Meanwhile Z2 is planning to open new domestic flights at ZAM, GES and DGT this year.
https://www.bworldonline.com/airasia-se ... dumaguete/


Heard they're planning Ho Chi Minh as well...
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:34 am

AB330 wrote:
Jet bridges for GES have arrived will probably be installed soon.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/philipp ... 865413226/


Can you repost the picture here or find another link? Not everyone in this forum is a member of that group and since it's not a public forum not everyone here can see it.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:41 am

filipinoavgeek wrote:
AB330 wrote:
Jet bridges for GES have arrived will probably be installed soon.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/philipp ... 865413226/


Can you repost the picture here or find another link? Not everyone in this forum is a member of that group and since it's not a public forum not everyone here can see it.


I'll try to post them in the fourms. I downloaded the photos to my memory card but not sure how will I post it here though?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:56 am

Devilfish wrote:
SkyHigher wrote:
If Rao-Saavedra consortium enters the Swiss Challenge, they are like monopolizing the major airport projects here--from CEB T2, CRK T2 (construction only) and this, though i'll support that instead of NAIA oligarchs' proposal, lol.

SkyHigher wrote:
With the groundbreaking happening in 2 days, I think SMC and DOTr should postpone it as RSA needs to attend on personal matters

Whatever they do, I wish there would be something like this people mover for the major gateways to connect to light rail stations -- even if not as luxurious.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycEvp8fCvw

It's yet to be confirmed for NAIA...while CRK and NMIA have their own proposed rail links. I think it's a much needed, less disruptive, more practical and economical project than the proposed subway for Metro Manila.


People Mover would work in the likes of NAIA and MCIA. But having an airport link a top priority than the MM Subway, I disagree with that. We need to prioritize both with the latter a long-term solution to perennial and sh*tty traffic of Metro Manila and the former providing less dependency on 4-wheel vehicles thanks to America, lol.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:57 pm

AB330 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
AB330 wrote:
Jet bridges for GES have arrived will probably be installed soon.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/philipp ... 865413226/


Can you repost the picture here or find another link? Not everyone in this forum is a member of that group and since it's not a public forum not everyone here can see it.


I'll try to post them in the fourms. I downloaded the photos to my memory card but not sure how will I post it here though?


Photos of the Jet bridge are available in the article.
https://www.auphilippines.com/2020/01/g ... n.html?m=1

Quite curious when will the Passenger Terminal Building (PTB) be completed it was supposed to have been done by mid-2019. Obviously its far from finnish and wouldn't be surprised if the PTB will be either completed by the last quarter of this year or early 2021.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:13 pm

So...the sticking point for the conclusion of the consortium's NAIA Rehab proposal is the RPT rate..... :talktothehand: .....

https://business.inquirer.net/289083/ty ... its-a-snag


The deadline for the settlement of the issue is upon them. Couldn't the parties to the negotiation strike a happy balance between the government's demand and the proponent's yield targets? :stirthepot:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:23 pm

PR to suspend scheduled charters from Kalibo to Mainland China in light of the recent coronavirus outbreak. Flights are operated with 2P A320s, serving Hangzhou, Nanjing and Shanghai. All ops to other destinations in the PRC and Hong Kong/Macau with Mainline aircraft are still to operate as scheduled, but warns of possible further adjustments.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/philippi ... 501283306/
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:23 pm

Philippine747 wrote:
PR to suspend scheduled charters from Kalibo to Mainland China in light of the recent coronavirus outbreak. Flights are operated with 2P A320s, serving Hangzhou, Nanjing and Shanghai. All ops to other destinations in the PRC and Hong Kong/Macau with Mainline aircraft are still to operate as scheduled, but warns of possible further adjustments.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/philippi ... 501283306/


In update to this, PR has announced even more cuts effective tomorrow (01 Feb), summarized since their formatting is messy. There may be some errors...

MNL-HKG v.v
- PR300/301/306/307/312 (1, 2, 3 February)
- Replacment PR5312 scheduled on 2, 3 and 4 February
- Possible aircraft upgauges on PR310/311/318/319
MNL-MFM v.v (5-29 February, 2-30 March)
MNL-CAN v.v (4-28 February, 3-31 March)
MNL-XMN
- PR334/335 (10, 15 February)
- PR330/331 (18-25 February)
MNL-JJN (8-11 February)
MNL-PVG (5 to 29 February)
MNL-PEK
- PR358/359 (4-28 February)
- PR360/361 (4-26 February, 3 March to 1 April)

In perspective to show how much capacity has been cut:
MNL-HKG-MNL - Varies. PR sends every Mainline type
MNL-MFM - A320/A321/A21N
MNL-CAN - A321/A21N
MNL-JJN - A321/A21N
MNL-XMN - A321/A21N/New config A333 (PR330/331)
MNL-PVG - Old config A333
MNL-PEK - A321/A21N
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:36 am

Philippine747 wrote:
Philippine747 wrote:
PR to suspend scheduled charters from Kalibo to Mainland China in light of the recent coronavirus outbreak. Flights are operated with 2P A320s, serving Hangzhou, Nanjing and Shanghai. All ops to other destinations in the PRC and Hong Kong/Macau with Mainline aircraft are still to operate as scheduled, but warns of possible further adjustments.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/philippi ... 501283306/


In update to this, PR has announced even more cuts effective tomorrow (01 Feb), summarized since their formatting is messy. There may be some errors...

MNL-HKG v.v
- PR300/301/306/307/312 (1, 2, 3 February)
- Replacment PR5312 scheduled on 2, 3 and 4 February
- Possible aircraft upgauges on PR310/311/318/319
MNL-MFM v.v (5-29 February, 2-30 March)
MNL-CAN v.v (4-28 February, 3-31 March)
MNL-XMN
- PR334/335 (10, 15 February)
- PR330/331 (18-25 February)
MNL-JJN (8-11 February)
MNL-PVG (5 to 29 February)
MNL-PEK
- PR358/359 (4-28 February)
- PR360/361 (4-26 February, 3 March to 1 April)

In perspective to show how much capacity has been cut:
MNL-HKG-MNL - Varies. PR sends every Mainline type
MNL-MFM - A320/A321/A21N
MNL-CAN - A321/A21N
MNL-JJN - A321/A21N
MNL-XMN - A321/A21N/New config A333 (PR330/331)
MNL-PVG - Old config A333
MNL-PEK - A321/A21N


I just hope all local airlines will cancel all flights going to Mainland and even HKG and MFM until further notice re 2019 nCoV ARD. Though cancelleation of flights to HKG might really cause a huge impact to PR and 5J, they better sacrifice their revenue or profits over public health currently at risk.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:47 am

SkyHigher wrote:
Philippine747 wrote:
Philippine747 wrote:
PR to suspend scheduled charters from Kalibo to Mainland China in light of the recent coronavirus outbreak. Flights are operated with 2P A320s, serving Hangzhou, Nanjing and Shanghai. All ops to other destinations in the PRC and Hong Kong/Macau with Mainline aircraft are still to operate as scheduled, but warns of possible further adjustments.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/philippi ... 501283306/


In update to this, PR has announced even more cuts effective tomorrow (01 Feb), summarized since their formatting is messy. There may be some errors...

MNL-HKG v.v
- PR300/301/306/307/312 (1, 2, 3 February)
- Replacment PR5312 scheduled on 2, 3 and 4 February
- Possible aircraft upgauges on PR310/311/318/319
MNL-MFM v.v (5-29 February, 2-30 March)
MNL-CAN v.v (4-28 February, 3-31 March)
MNL-XMN
- PR334/335 (10, 15 February)
- PR330/331 (18-25 February)
MNL-JJN (8-11 February)
MNL-PVG (5 to 29 February)
MNL-PEK
- PR358/359 (4-28 February)
- PR360/361 (4-26 February, 3 March to 1 April)

In perspective to show how much capacity has been cut:
MNL-HKG-MNL - Varies. PR sends every Mainline type
MNL-MFM - A320/A321/A21N
MNL-CAN - A321/A21N
MNL-JJN - A321/A21N
MNL-XMN - A321/A21N/New config A333 (PR330/331)
MNL-PVG - Old config A333
MNL-PEK - A321/A21N


I just hope all local airlines will cancel all flights going to Mainland and even HKG and MFM until further notice re 2019 nCoV ARD. Though cancelleation of flights to HKG might really cause a huge impact to PR and 5J, they better sacrifice their revenue or profits over public health currently at risk.


Sounds like a plan, but a slow wind down would be better than just suddenly pulling the plug. It would also allow Filipinos to return home (even though they might be quarantined)

5J also announced a suspension of all flights to the PRC except for HKG/MFM.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:53 am

RP-C5917 on the way from Toronto-Downsview, marking the completion of the 2017 order for Q400 NextGens. -5917 will stop in Singapore before flying to the Philippines to serve as a display aircraft for DHC during the Singapore Airshow.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:01 am

PAL was awarded some new slots in LHR with the arrival time now scheduled to be 3pm instead of 6pm.


http://www.travelquotidiano.com/traspor ... qid-373112
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:44 pm

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:26 am

United is asking the DOJ to defer action on PR's MNL-SEA flight until UA can get slots for another Guam-Manilla flight.

"United operates flights between Guam and Manila and has been actively seeking to increase its Philippine service with the addition of a daily Manila flight...However, to date, United has been refused slots and other airport infrastructure necessary for its future flight plans, while Philippine carriers continue to increase capacity to the US.”

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... -decision/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:47 am

amadorE175 wrote:
United is asking the DOJ to defer action on PR's MNL-SEA flight until UA can get slots for another Guam-Manilla flight.

"United operates flights between Guam and Manila and has been actively seeking to increase its Philippine service with the addition of a daily Manila flight...However, to date, United has been refused slots and other airport infrastructure necessary for its future flight plans, while Philippine carriers continue to increase capacity to the US.”

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... -decision/


Honestly... CAB should just give UA the slots. While PR is doing healthy on the route, they also have their own feed and will be fine. Likewise, UA also has their own feed ex-GUM.

Related... but the additional PR MNL-GUM service opb 2P that was proposed to start in March has been removed from the timetable.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:50 am

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Somehow, I don't think the launch of MNL-SEA will happen in May anyway.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:21 pm

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Sources say the NMIA project will break ground by September 2020. Maybe revisions on the plan will be made plus the events related to RSAs personal life, Taal, COVID-19, etc. hinders SMC and the government to commence the groundbreaking.

About SGL, President Duterte inagurates the airport's turboprop and GA operations yesterday.
https://www.rappler.com/business/251781 ... ry-15-2020

And Cavite LGU formally awards the initial phase of SPIA (Sangley Point International Airport) to CCCC-MacroAsia JV despite the former's role in building islands for PRC in West Philippine Sea.
https://business.inquirer.net/290602/ch ... rt-project

The award was expected given that the consortium was the sole bidder that submitted its joint venture proposal to the Cavite government last Dec. 17, 2019.

The parties are expected to sign the Joint Venture Development Agreement to be followed by 12-18 months for detailed engineering design and financial closing.


But the construction may not begin until 2022 since PRRD is against large scale reclamation within his presidency.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:12 am

Heh, so Air Niugini wanted to codeshare with PR on POM-MNL-POM, but was blocked by PNG authorities...

http://www.looppng.com/business/ang-cod ... ined-89514
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:07 pm

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aviationph posted this story of RP-C7775 en route to Victorville, CA for upgrades, apparently. What upgrades are expected?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:14 am

PAL's 8th A321NEO (RP-C9938) on the way home. -9938 is the second Cabin Flex NEO for PR.

LRB40 wrote:
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aviationph posted this story of RP-C7775 en route to Victorville, CA for upgrades, apparently. What upgrades are expected?


Probably PIP mods. Another 777 went to VCV a few months ago apparently (nothing confirmed).
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:57 am

Boo Chanco, a SMC fanboy and crappy PPP advocate is crying as NMIA's groundbreaking and the future of the project itself is still uncertain. :lol:

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... port-goner

I just checked with San Miguel the status of their airport project in Bulacan… when groundbreaking will be. Their reply: “No schedule yet, sir. But DOTr said within the year.”

Ano daw? Within the year? February pa lang. Ibig sabihin ‘wag na kayong umasa. Di nyo ba ma-gets?

To be fair with DOTr, it is out of their hands. It is DOF’s call. The fact that DOF recalled the signed contract days before groundbreaking means wala na yan.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:02 am

Air Asia is set to resume its flights to Taipei and Kaohsiung following the relaxation of travel restrictions earlier imposed by the Philippine government on Taiwan.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:29 am

I read on another website (can't remember where) that there was going to be a new airline that is launching soon, and that they were going to operate an ATR. Are there any updates or more details on that?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:32 pm

Philippine747 wrote:
PAL's 8th A321NEO (RP-C9938) on the way home. -9938 is the second Cabin Flex NEO for PR.

Per this blog, PR is doubling its capital for the purpose..... :airplane: .....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... pital.html

Quote:
"According to PAL Holdings, the increase capital stock is needed to grow the company and finance acquisition of new short and long haul aircraft."


While it's likely that PR would consider A359 slots becoming available at attractive prices, they could also look into the A350-1000 to replace their older 77Ws. But there's always the off chance that they could go for a cheaper dark horse..... :flamed: .....

https://www.flightglobal.com/programmes ... 35.article



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Boo Chanco, a SMC fanboy and crappy PPP advocate is crying as NMIA's groundbreaking and the future of the project itself is still uncertain. :lol:

Again from the above blog, a contradictory view.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... mment-form


And from SkyscraperCity..... :wink2: .....

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:34 am

Devilfish wrote:

SkyHigher wrote:
Boo Chanco, a SMC fanboy and crappy PPP advocate is crying as NMIA's groundbreaking and the future of the project itself is still uncertain. :lol:

Again from the above blog, a contradictory view.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... mment-form


And from SkyscraperCity..... :wink2: .....

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It’s nice the DOT says there’s an PhP11B bond, but if the Dep’t of Finance invalidates the contract, the performance bond is moot.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:11 pm

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It’s nice the DOT says there’s an PhP11B bond, but if the Dep’t of Finance invalidates the contract, the performance bond is moot.

And what would the basis for invalidation be :?:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:03 am

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And what would the basis for invalidation be :?:


Great question. Here’s an excerpt from a Feb. 20 article.

Last December, Ang said the groundbreaking of the airport would be delayed “because it is on hold.” The transportation department has said the justice department is reviewing the concession deal of the project at the request of the finance department.

While there were no objections to the deal, the agency said there was a need to clarify the phrasing of provisions on material relating to adverse government action on situations where it deviates from contractual obligation. Such action would require the government to compensate a private entity.

The government also wanted to clarify the cap on liability in relation to operational performance and deliverables.


http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/02/20/1994603/government-may-forfeit-smc-performance-bond-airport-project

To be fair, the article focuses on SMC’s CEOs personal issues for the delay, but these issues are referenced again.

Honestly, I thought these were all resolved previously. If these are indeed open (or made to appear open) and SMC can’t meet the goverment’s requirements, it seems like it could be used to invalidate the contract and allow all parties to save face with their various interests.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:29 am

So I remember there was news that PAL was planning to discontinue Bohol-Korea flights (this was before Panglao opened). However, their Mabuhay magazine still shows their Bohol-Seoul flights as active (albeit still saying "Tagbilaran" instead of "Panglao" for some reason), and checking at FR24 it seems that TAG-ICN flights are still ongoing (albeit operated by PAL Express). Did they reverse their decision, and if so, when did that happen?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:29 am

In the meantime, that new airline I talked about before, it's called Sunlight Air and has already received their first ATR. Do we know yet who their owners are and where they plan to be based?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:31 am

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So I remember there was news that PAL was planning to discontinue Bohol-Korea flights (this was before Panglao opened). However, their Mabuhay magazine still shows their Bohol-Seoul flights as active (albeit still saying "Tagbilaran" instead of "Panglao" for some reason), and checking at FR24 it seems that TAG-ICN flights are still ongoing (albeit operated by PAL Express). Did they reverse their decision, and if so, when did that happen?


Welp... PAL takes forever to change their maps and when they do they can leave stuff out. TAG-ICN flew its last service a long time ago.

On the other hand... PAL timetable update shows resumption of MNL-BSO/USU/IAO service from 12 March, opb PALex Q400s, marking the return of PR turboprop ops to Manila. CRK ops to these destinations remains untouched. Flights are bookable.
A319 A320 A321 A332 A333 A343 AT75 AT76 B732 B733 B738 B744 B752(M) B763 B772 B77W DHC7 DH8C DH8D D328 MA60

2P 5J 6K CX DG EK GA KE MI PR VN OS QR A3 OK TG RA U4 JL GK UB K7 WE BR
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:28 am

Philippine747 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
So I remember there was news that PAL was planning to discontinue Bohol-Korea flights (this was before Panglao opened). However, their Mabuhay magazine still shows their Bohol-Seoul flights as active (albeit still saying "Tagbilaran" instead of "Panglao" for some reason), and checking at FR24 it seems that TAG-ICN flights are still ongoing (albeit operated by PAL Express). Did they reverse their decision, and if so, when did that happen?


Welp... PAL takes forever to change their maps and when they do they can leave stuff out. TAG-ICN flew its last service a long time ago.


Not sure about that, the same map showed their upcoming flights to Perth and Manado, and already no longer shows the now discontinued Taipei-Osaka sector. Plus, https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/2p2483 is still listed on Flightradar24 and appears on Panglao's Arrivals/Departures page (albeit without any plane information, strange; also strange is that the flight isn't listed on Flightaware). What's going on here?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:09 pm

airlineaddict wrote:
Great question. Here’s an excerpt from a Feb. 20 article.

And this came out on the very same date.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... mment-form

airlineaddict wrote:
Honestly, I thought these were all resolved previously. If these are indeed open (or made to appear open) and SMC can’t meet the goverment’s requirements, it seems like it could be used to invalidate the contract and allow all parties to save face with their various interests.

If there's a deal deserving invalidation, one can look at the NAIA Rehab project. It's not like SMC has a shortage of lawyers to defend its interests. Should push come to shove, having AdP (with its recent acquisition of a major stake in GMR) as one of their consultants could facilitate an arrangement for the continuance of NMIA in lieu of a Swiss challenge.


Meanwhile, from SkyscraperCity, things are looking on-track for CRK.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

posted by: @luis4083


.....and post #14292 by @ajosh821 in the Clark International Airport thread. :thumbsup:


filipinoavgeek wrote:
However, their Mabuhay magazine still shows their Bohol-Seoul flights as active (albeit still saying "Tagbilaran" instead of "Panglao" for some reason), and checking at FR24 it seems that TAG-ICN flights are still ongoing (albeit operated by PAL Express).

Could it be due to Panglao inheriting the TAG airport code?


Philippine747 wrote:
On the other hand... PAL timetable update shows resumption of MNL-BSO/USU/IAO service from 12 March, opb PALex Q400s, marking the return of PR turboprop ops to Manila.

Just to clarify...would these flights use T2 or T4 at NAIA... or operate out of SGL :?:

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... ga-siargao


In the meantime, PAL's fleet renewal plan might encounter some strong headwinds.....

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020 ... abor-group
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:45 am

Devilfish wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
However, their Mabuhay magazine still shows their Bohol-Seoul flights as active (albeit still saying "Tagbilaran" instead of "Panglao" for some reason), and checking at FR24 it seems that TAG-ICN flights are still ongoing (albeit operated by PAL Express).

Could it be due to Panglao inheriting the TAG airport code?


Bohol-Panglao International Airport inherited the IATA code of old Tagbilaran Airport. Not all international tourists know much about Panglao thus they still refer the new airport as part of Tagbilaran when it is a few kilometers away.

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In the meantime, PAL's fleet renewal plan might encounter some strong headwinds.....

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020 ... abor-group


Also from Philstar.
https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... e-airlines

It was a necessary move, PAL said in its announcement. Around 300 people were affected, of which some 200 were retrenched while 100 opted to retire early. Those who are at least 50 years old and have been with the company for at least 20 years were qualified to avail of the early retirement package.

PAL employees knew about the retrenchment weeks before but they didn’t know who would be included. Since then, insiders said, the mood in the head office had been tense, anxious and stressful but employees couldn’t do much about it except to wait in bated breath for the final announcement.


Once the COVID-19 scare wanes, PAL might continue the next round of fleet modernization or they should focus on SGL in which PAL is planned to become part of the local consortium to be organized by El Kapitan.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/c ... ect/story/

"MacroAsia is part of a larger group. So if our partner agrees, we may bring in [those that are] part of the [Lucio Tan] group. PAL is definitely going to be of use," MacroAsia president and Joseph Chua said Tuesday.
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:43 pm

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Once the COVID-19 scare wanes, PAL might continue the next round of fleet modernization or they should focus on SGL in which PAL is planned to become part of the local consortium to be organized by El Kapitan.

That may be easier said than done...2019 proved to be an extraordinarily tough year for PAL.....

https://business.inquirer.net/291642/pa ... hit-p10-6b

Quote:
"Philippine Airlines recorded the biggest loss in its corporate history last year due to what its chief described as 'unsustainable long-term debt and lease obligations [in] billions of US dollars,' aggravated by the Taal volcano eruption and the ongoing COVID-19 crisis.

In a letter sent to the flag carrier’s employees last week, president and COO Gilbert Santa Maria said PAL had sustained a net loss of $208 million in 2019 —equivalent to P10.6 billion at the prevailing exchange rate— and marking the third consecutive year of losses for the Lucio Tan-owned firm."



Apparently, the increase in paid-up capital reported upthread ostensibly to finance their fleet modernization was merely a smokescreen for its real purpose.....

Quote:
"Last week, PAL’s board also approved an increase in the airline’s authorized capital stock from P13 billion to P30 billion —a prelude to 'the infusion of fresh capital to help bolster our debt position and buy us time,' the airline chief said.

Sources told the Inquirer that the company’s owners had been actively scouting for a white knight to shore up the airline’s capital, although no firm buyer has yet been identified."



Might we see LTG divesting its airline interests to focus on the airport business? :scratchchin:
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Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:18 am

Devilfish wrote:
SkyHigher wrote:
Once the COVID-19 scare wanes, PAL might continue the next round of fleet modernization or they should focus on SGL in which PAL is planned to become part of the local consortium to be organized by El Kapitan.

That may be easier said than done...2019 proved to be an extraordinarily tough year for PAL.....

https://business.inquirer.net/291642/pa ... hit-p10-6b

Quote:
"Philippine Airlines recorded the biggest loss in its corporate history last year due to what its chief described as 'unsustainable long-term debt and lease obligations [in] billions of US dollars,' aggravated by the Taal volcano eruption and the ongoing COVID-19 crisis.

In a letter sent to the flag carrier’s employees last week, president and COO Gilbert Santa Maria said PAL had sustained a net loss of $208 million in 2019 —equivalent to P10.6 billion at the prevailing exchange rate— and marking the third consecutive year of losses for the Lucio Tan-owned firm."



Apparently, the increase in paid-up capital reported upthread ostensibly to finance their fleet modernization was merely a smokescreen for its real purpose.....

Quote:
"Last week, PAL’s board also approved an increase in the airline’s authorized capital stock from P13 billion to P30 billion —a prelude to 'the infusion of fresh capital to help bolster our debt position and buy us time,' the airline chief said.

Sources told the Inquirer that the company’s owners had been actively scouting for a white knight to shore up the airline’s capital, although no firm buyer has yet been identified."



Might we see LTG divesting its airline interests to focus on the airport business? :scratchchin:


Not as long as he's still alive. Lucio Tan is famous in the business for loving PAL, hence why he bought it back from RSA in the first place. If his group has any intentions of selling off PAL (which IIRC is not on the table right now), it won't be until after he dies at the earliest.

Also, what percentage of PAL's fleet are leased? I know most if not almost all of their 777s are leased, what about their others? I assume that the leases are a major reason for their heavy losses.

Finally, the coronavirus is really a massive blow to PAL but also to CebPac, much of their business comes from China flights. And now with the Korea travel ban, things are going to be even more difficult.
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:43 pm

In other news, it was reported last week that Pan Pacific Airways decided to return one of their A320s to the lessor due to high costs, and it got ferried to Shannon. I'm not sure if the coronavirus had anything to do with it or it was just a coincidence, but considering that Pan Pacific focuses on Korea flights, I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least some link.
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:42 pm

filipinoavgeek wrote:
Not as long as he's still alive. Lucio Tan is famous in the business for loving PAL, hence why he bought it back from RSA in the first place. If his group has any intentions of selling off PAL (which IIRC is not on the table right now), it won't be until after he dies at the earliest.

While El Kapitan is still sprightly for his age, there's no denying that he's no longer a spring chicken. And with the tragic loss of his most trusted son, it's not certain that his other offspring share his passion for the airline. LT might want to put his business empire in order early so they wouldn't squabble over those after he's gone.

filipinoavgeek wrote:
Also, what percentage of PAL's fleet are leased? I know most if not almost all of their 777s are leased, what about their others? I assume that the leases are a major reason for their heavy losses.

According to this Nov 2019 table from PASBS.com, it appears PR's entire fleet is leased, either on financial or operating basis... :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: ...


Philippine Airlines Fleet 2019
AIRCRAFT FINANCE LEASE OPERATING LEASE
B77W 4 6
A359 0 6
A333 5 10
A321N 7 0
A321 9 15
A320 9 10
DH4 8 5
DH3 4 0
TOTAL 46 52

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... date=false



Meanwhile..... :stirthepot: .....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... rt-project

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... quirements

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... ruction-q2

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... hab-danger


One must take all of the above with a generous helping of salt..... :indifferent:


Additionally.....

https://business.inquirer.net/291755/pa ... an-flights
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