However it seems that Devilfish is pushing that PAL should only order the A330-800neo or that PAL should replaced there A330-300 with the A338 which can get annoying and he can be a bit defensive if someone questions his reasoning or justification for the A338.
Nowhere did I say that PAL
order the A338
. This is an online forum so everyone has the right to defend his position...even against annoyingly inane opinions.
Had PR operated the A330-200 in the past, the A338 would have actually made a lot of sense. The A338 is basically an evolution of that and would have fit in nicely with their fleet.
Just realized that too most of the current customers of the A338 where previously operators of the A330-200. So it made sense why they ordered the A330-800neo
An airline orders aircraft based on a current or imminent need, not on their past requirements. This pandemic has radically altered the medium term outlook as well.
I'm going to be frank here, this is partly true. Mentioning the A338 once? Pretty harmless. But going to multiple airline threads (not just PR's) praising the A338 and essentially begging airlines to order it? Yes, it can be annoying when done repeatedly over a long period of time.
There you go again. For someone ostensively annoyed by the mere mention of the model, you seem to have an insatiable desire to dwell on it. Only in your world does suggestion equal to begging.
Besides those mentioned Garuda is said to have ordered the A338 with four to be leased likely to replaced there exsisting A332 fleet.
And had the pandemic not happened, our own neighbor Garuda would’ve had the A338 by now, and for them, it’s a really perfect plane.
I do wonder what makes the A338
perfect for GA
yet unthinkably useless for PR
...theirs was either an MoU or an LoI only. Don't look now, but those four
could surprisingly turn up somewhere else!
Speaking of A342 the French Goverment is selling there two VIP A340-200 for 80,000 euros each (11% VAT not included) I wonder if we could squeeze a good few years on this as the new Kalayaan One
might get a better deal if PR
hadn't found a buyer yet for one of their old ex-IB birds.
Being in the defense community I've read that the G280 was to small to served as a proper command and control (C2) aircraft which the DND and PAF keep calling it along with the C-295M assigned to the 250th Presidential Airlift Wing (While the three C-295 are assigned to the 220th Airlift Wing based in Mactan), I've read a proposal for a proper VVIP fleet for the PAF.
Those were just soundbytes to deflect the flak that would come with the acquisition...reality is the G280
is much too limited to do anything more (at once) than VIP transport. For all the aircraft that you list, the PAF
would be lucky to get one A220-100LR
instead. I read there may be a handful of white-tails due to the pandemic. Perhaps SMC
would express their gratitude
for the 50-year
gateway franchise by procuring a TwoTwenty
configured for State Transport
, mixing elements of the layouts shown in #426
Another VIP lav could be added and the galley annex modified to hold the closets instead (they can install a few overhead bins too). The crew rest
can remain while the main cabin
can be laid-out in 5-rows of 4-abreast front seats (angled-flat at least) as shown in #506
. A multi-use section
and a smaller stateroom
with en-suite bath complete the package.
Additionally when the PAF eventually acquires a Multi-role fighter either the JAS 39 Gripen or F-16V Block 70/72 they previously mentioned a requirement for at less 1 Multi-role tanker transport MRTT its plausible that a 2nd aircraft can be aquired which could also be used as a presidential aircraft can be aquired similar style to the UK Borris Force One which is Voyager MRTT in VVIP configuration.
Belonging to the defense community, you must be aware that after the MRF
s (still prefer the Gripen E) part of the +
2021 budget could be wisely allocated for the acquisition of a long-range surveillance platform (like the RAF is disposing)
This fleet debate is pointless...Even airline bosses dunno what’s happening... it’s all speculations!
That is what makes it all fun and what keeps A.nut
You think PAL will gamble millions by reading all these?? Unless you’re at a director level (in PAL)...
An airline director basing his decisions off these discussions doesn't deserve his seat. Of course, an airline executive worth his salt can also come here for amusement, but it's doubtful that he would have the time with all the problems besetting the industry at present!
A safe and HAPPY NEW YEAR
to one and all