tendy04 wrote:
Is the city going to allow a runway run on 9C-27C like they did for the southfield opening of 10C-28C in the fall? That is assuming that we are allowed to get together in groups and not covid restricted.
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tendy04 wrote:
jagraham wrote:
ORDfan wrote:jagraham wrote:
That slide was nothing more than a concept as part of the very unofficial "30 year plan." To even call is a plan I think is inaccurate. Nothing beyond the existing ORD 21 TAP is funded; anything beyond that is extremely speculative. Look how much the world has changed in the past 3 months. They are talking about the death of the twin VLA in other forums now. I think we'd see more domestic widebodies before ORD ever sees a Sat 3 or 4, IMO.
Call me very skeptical, but I don't believe a Western terminal, let alone Sat 3 or Sat 4 would ever get built. Not to mention, as of today, that's where the long-awaited deicing pad is.
drdisque wrote:For north complex west flow arrivals, Zulu will take arrivals to Uniform to the terminal core.
Remember that ATL does have arrivals cross the active when using 10/28
In West flow south complex arrivals will use Zulu to Lima
East flow is tricky (and always has been with 9L)
My understanding is that 9L arrivals will back track to Zulu, have to hold for 9C arrivals, and 9L departures will go from somewhere east of Zulu.
I'm not sure if 9C arrivals will backtrack to Zulu as well or will cross 9R at Papa Papa.
East flow on south complex is pretty easy other than arrivals on 10R (which they try to use as little as possible) have to hold for 10C arrivals. 10L departures already routinely don't use full length so crossing 10L is no big deal. Again, they will have to backtrack to Zulu to do all this runway crossing as that's the safest place to do it.
AmricanShamrok wrote:Let us know what your experience is like when you do arrive as passenger to T5.
Jenner43201 wrote:Hello all. Its been a while since I surfaced and looked at this thread again.
Thanks for the pictures with the updates to 9C/27C. I took that and updated an idea I had to create (or move) a 4L/22R near the oil tanks. I posted something similar a couple of years ago, but I can provide an updated picture if interested.
I also saw someone post that Boutique Air (or Air Choice One?) code shares with United and American. Do you think such a small airline would consider flying from Rockford and/or Gary to O'Hare? Or, do Boutique and Air Choice One only fly to airports with Essential Air Service funds?
yeogeo wrote:"SAS resumes limited long-haul passenger service from June 2020"
Limited might be an understatement; two routes in total are planned: EWR and ORD.
ORD-CPH A-333 2X/week
Aircraft overnights at O'Hare. Effective June 11
United787 wrote:Forgive me if this has been discussed, I took a hiatus from A-Net since COVID-19 started because it was too depressing. But, now that things are coming back, I am back. Yes, I am a fairweather fan.
Does someone have a list of international passenger flights that are currently in operation from ORD?
TSA125 wrote:yeogeo wrote:"[EY] plans to operate 42 routes between 01JUL20 and 15JUL20. Planned operation as of 11JUN20 as follows..."
ORD-AUH 7X/week 787-9
Are these bookable pax flights or cargo/repatriation?
Jenner43201 wrote:Hello all. Its been a while since I surfaced and looked at this thread again.
Thanks for the pictures with the updates to 9C/27C. I took that and updated an idea I had to create (or move) a 4L/22R near the oil tanks. I posted something similar a couple of years ago, but I can provide an updated picture if interested.
I also saw someone post that Boutique Air (or Air Choice One?) code shares with United and American. Do you think such a small airline would consider flying from Rockford and/or Gary to O'Hare? Or, do Boutique and Air Choice One only fly to airports with Essential Air Service funds?
yeogeo wrote:The following is scheduled to commence Mid-June:
ORD-MEX 3X/week 737-800
yeogeo wrote:From April 12 through May, KLM intends to operate 787-10's 3X/week on its ORD-AMS route.
wnflyguy wrote:Has Allegiant Airline started MDW service yet?
drdisque wrote:Jenner43201 wrote:I also saw someone post that Boutique Air... code shares with United and American. Do you think such a small airline would consider flying from Rockford and/or Gary to O'Hare? Or, do Boutique and Air Choice One only fly to airports with Essential Air Service funds?
Boutique and Air Choice One only fly if there's some sort of subsidy. Also, Boutique prefers somewhat longer stage lengths (200-400 miles) since that's where the PC-12 shines over other 9 seat turboprops/piston engined planes being used as airliners. So no, I don't see either airline being interested in adding service to RFD or GYY.
What I can possibly see Boutique being interested in is ORD-PLN during peak season next summer.
yeogeo wrote:drdisque wrote:Jenner43201 wrote:I also saw someone post that Boutique Air... code shares with United and American. Do you think such a small airline would consider flying from Rockford and/or Gary to O'Hare? Or, do Boutique and Air Choice One only fly to airports with Essential Air Service funds?
Boutique and Air Choice One only fly if there's some sort of subsidy. Also, Boutique prefers somewhat longer stage lengths (200-400 miles) since that's where the PC-12 shines over other 9 seat turboprops/piston engined planes being used as airliners. So no, I don't see either airline being interested in adding service to RFD or GYY.
What I can possibly see Boutique being interested in is ORD-PLN during peak season next summer.
I would suggest a seasonal ORD-SUE, at 200mi it fits the bill for 4B!
Door County has a large seasonal inhabitant population from all over, heavy summer tourism and a bit of industry in Sturgeon Bay itself (shipbuilding & ship maintenance).
For the northern end of the County, its a 2 1/2hr drive to the nearest scheduled service (GRB).
I think its only a matter of time. Not sure about the airport itself... will 4599 feet do it for their Pilatus?
drdisque wrote:yeogeo wrote:I would suggest a seasonal ORD-SUE, at 200mi it fits the bill for 4B!
Door County has a large seasonal inhabitant population from all over, heavy summer tourism and a bit of industry in Sturgeon Bay itself (shipbuilding & ship maintenance). ...
Yes, there would be a better airport in Michigan than PLN too, MGN.
However, the issue with MGN and SUE is that they have no TSA and Boutique will be operating from a secure part of the terminal at ORD and not the FBO. So an MGN or SUE flight would either have to operate to and from the FBO or arrivals would have to be bused on the apron to curbside to go through security before connections...
x1234 wrote:What's the status of the train from T1/2/3 to T5?
Is it done yet?
yeogeo wrote:Hadn't noticed this before, from several days ago...
http://mediaroom.jetblue.com/investor-r ... -143034427
One new route out of 30 for jetBlue involves O'Hare:
ORD-PBI, effective October 1, "Up to 1x Daily"
Planeboy17 wrote:yeogeo wrote:Hadn't noticed this before, from several days ago...
http://mediaroom.jetblue.com/investor-r ... -143034427
One new route out of 30 for jetBlue involves O'Hare:
ORD-PBI, effective October 1, "Up to 1x Daily"
It’s actually showing a 320.
Departs 7:30 am ORD
Arrives 9:55 pm ORD
...
yeogeo wrote:Planeboy17 wrote:yeogeo wrote:Hadn't noticed this before, from several days ago...
http://mediaroom.jetblue.com/investor-r ... -143034427
One new route out of 30 for jetBlue involves O'Hare:
ORD-PBI, effective October 1, "Up to 1x Daily"
It’s actually showing a 320.
Departs 7:30 am ORD
Arrives 9:55 pm ORD
...
yeogeo wrote:drdisque wrote:yeogeo wrote:I would suggest a seasonal ORD-SUE, at 200mi it fits the bill for 4B!
Door County has a large seasonal inhabitant population from all over, heavy summer tourism and a bit of industry in Sturgeon Bay itself (shipbuilding & ship maintenance). ...
Yes, there would be a better airport in Michigan than PLN too, MGN.
However, the issue with MGN and SUE is that they have no TSA and Boutique will be operating from a secure part of the terminal at ORD and not the FBO. So an MGN or SUE flight would either have to operate to and from the FBO or arrivals would have to be bused on the apron to curbside to go through security before connections...
...or the town and county commit to get the TSA - a big community effort I can only imagine.
Maybe in time.
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wnflyguy wrote:Has Allegiant Airline started MDW service yet?
Flyguy
FTMCPIUS wrote:yeogeo wrote:drdisque wrote:
Yes, there would be a better airport in Michigan than PLN too, MGN.
However, the issue with MGN and SUE is that they have no TSA and Boutique will be operating from a secure part of the terminal at ORD and not the FBO. So an MGN or SUE flight would either have to operate to and from the FBO or arrivals would have to be bused on the apron to curbside to go through security before connections...
...or the town and county commit to get the TSA - a big community effort I can only imagine.
Maybe in time.
Maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz.
What is KMGN? On the map it looks like the Harbor Springs area, a little south of PLN.
FTMCPIUS wrote:What is KMGN? On the map it looks like the Harbor Springs area, a little south of PLN.
ORDfan wrote:Looks like AF6740 had a missed approach or aborted landing tonight (June 28); anyone know any details on what happened?
I was at a friend's house this evening on the NW Side (in west Norridge) and I was showing him Flightradar24 (he is not an avgeek), and out of sheer coincidence, I happened to show him this flight to track as she came over the lake (the plane was not visible from his backyard at that time).
About 25 min later, we heard a roar like had not heard in years - it reminded me of growing up near MDW in 90's, hearing the old 737s and 727s taking off. We looked up and shockingly enough, there was AF6740 doing a take-off go around and hard bank south - sharp, she must have been banking right over 294 as we could see the underbelly pointing at us. The sounds was incredible - I had not heard a 777 sound that loud, ever. I'm assuming she was close to full power? Needless to say, I've also never seen a go-around at ORD.
It was a site to behold... unfortunately I wasn't able to snag a photo.
I'm curious if any readers here have any insight as to what happened. It got me thinking: how often does ORD have a missed approach and go-around? It this a once/month or once/year event??
Also I was a little surprised the flight was not directed to fly straight east as other departing aircraft have been doing this evening, and why the plane was forced to do such a sharp turn.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR6740
gabik001 wrote:ORDfan wrote:Looks like AF6740 had a missed approach or aborted landing tonight (June 28); anyone know any details on what happened?
I was at a friend's house this evening on the NW Side (in west Norridge) and I was showing him Flightradar24 (he is not an avgeek), and out of sheer coincidence, I happened to show him this flight to track as she came over the lake (the plane was not visible from his backyard at that time).
About 25 min later, we heard a roar like had not heard in years - it reminded me of growing up near MDW in 90's, hearing the old 737s and 727s taking off. We looked up and shockingly enough, there was AF6740 doing a take-off go around and hard bank south - sharp, she must have been banking right over 294 as we could see the underbelly pointing at us. The sounds was incredible - I had not heard a 777 sound that loud, ever. I'm assuming she was close to full power? Needless to say, I've also never seen a go-around at ORD.
It was a site to behold... unfortunately I wasn't able to snag a photo.
I'm curious if any readers here have any insight as to what happened. It got me thinking: how often does ORD have a missed approach and go-around? It this a once/month or once/year event??
Also I was a little surprised the flight was not directed to fly straight east as other departing aircraft have been doing this evening, and why the plane was forced to do such a sharp turn.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR6740
You heard roaring because of thin air and we got heat wave now so to have a proper lift and proper a/c performance crew needs to use more power when there is a thin air (I think dew point is a factor).
There are special procedures when performing go around (usually turning south regardless of approach direction to 28C/10C and maintain between 2500 and 4000' AGL).
Actually there is at least one missed approach daily. There might be several different factors to perform missed approach - runway interruption, tower order, lack of separation (actually this runway is rarely used for departures) or wind shear. Sharp turn was a result of ATC order probably to not interrupt normal traffic operations. What happened to AFR6740? Difficult to say but ATC recording might be the answer.
Planeboy17 wrote:Attn spotters and photographers. Air India is sending a 777-200LR to ORD tomorrow am. It’s currently over China. It’s taking a different route than the normal polar route. ETA is 8:15 am.
Planeboy17 wrote:Someone just posted in the El Al thread that UA has officially set a 3x weekly ORD-TLV flight starting in September. I don’t know the poster well (United1) but that is what he claims along with some other UA TLV additional flying from other hubs such as EWR, SFO and IAD.
This, and the news of El Al’s government bailout which sounds like shrinking the airline, could mean no LY 787s into ORD anytime soon. I hope I’m proven wrong.