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WN732
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
Seems the slowest part of the turns is the time for passengers deplaning and getting on. 350 for a full -800 is painfully slow it seems.
I don't see how a blanket 30/40 minute turn schedule can be attainable. I bet it is easier at CRP than MDW to accomplish....


They could maybe have different turn times depending on the station as many carriers do. Some of their stations are using front and back deplaning/enplaning, which probably speeds up the process quite a bit. I believe this is done in BUR, SMF, SJC from what I remember...if it is still being done.


Yep they are still doing that. They've even gone as far as having selfie stations at BUR where you can take pictures standing in front of the engines. It works beautifully. But it might not work so well in cold places such as MDW.
 
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:05 am

They could maybe have different turn times depending on the station as many carriers do. Some of their stations are using front and back deplaning/enplaning, which probably speeds up the process quite a bit. I believe this is done in BUR, SMF, SJC from what I remember...if it is still being done.[/quote]

Was in SMF and SJC multiple times in the past year. Did not see this being done or any signs it could be done. Would have been cool to see it.
 
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:15 pm

WN732 wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
Seems the slowest part of the turns is the time for passengers deplaning and getting on. 350 for a full -800 is painfully slow it seems.
I don't see how a blanket 30/40 minute turn schedule can be attainable. I bet it is easier at CRP than MDW to accomplish....


They could maybe have different turn times depending on the station as many carriers do. Some of their stations are using front and back deplaning/enplaning, which probably speeds up the process quite a bit. I believe this is done in BUR, SMF, SJC from what I remember...if it is still being done.


Yep they are still doing that. They've even gone as far as having selfie stations at BUR where you can take pictures standing in front of the engines. It works beautifully. But it might not work so well in cold places such as MDW.


I worked at BUR for the past year until recently in the last month or so when I transferred to LAX. I don’t recall any selfie stations in front of our aircraft. Us agents are required to keep watch of those deplaning front and back into the SIDA. As long as there inside the “cone zone” they can take pictures and such. We encourage it actually given that we are one the handful of stations that does full front and back deplaning.
 
wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:14 pm

New schedule out.
LGB increases SJC and OAK to 5 daily.
According to HNL friends WN adding a new West coast destination in AUG to be announced at a later date because of the Coronavirus.

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midway7
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:20 pm

According to HNL friends WN adding a new West coast destination in AUG to be announced at a later date because of the Coronavirus.

Hoping for PDX !
 
Jshank83
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:45 pm

I noticed the October part of the schedule is different than the rest of the extension. Ie STL-CUN goes back to daily and STL-SLC comes back in October.
 
hohd
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:04 pm

All these schedules are assuming that the corona virus will not be impacting. Based on the current situation, it will be atleast a year before things go back to normal. So Southwest should be careful in announcing all these new flights until they are sure about the situation.
 
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Midwestindy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:18 pm

DALLAS, March 12, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE: LUV) today extended its bookable flight schedule through Oct. 30, 2020. As the carrier publishes its full schedule, it is adding new international service to and from Phoenix's Sky Harbor International Airport beginning in October.

Effective Oct. 8, 2020, Southwest will offer twice-daily nonstop service between Phoenix and Cabo San Lucas/Los Cabos* and once-daily nonstop service between Phoenix and Puerto Vallarta*. Phoenix will become the carrier's 23rd city to serve as an international gateway for the airline.

*Both routes are subject to requisite government approvals.

Long Beach Service Expands
Southwest also announced today an expansion of its service for Customers in the LA Basin who utilize Long Beach Airport. Effective Aug. 11, 2020, will add one additional nonstop flight on weekdays directionally between:

Long Beach, Calif. and Oakland (A total of five roundtrip flights Mondays-Fridays)
Long Beach, Calif. and San Jose, Calif. (A total of five roundtrip flights Mondays-Fridays)

With these new routes, Southwest will offer up to 14 departures on weekdays from Long Beach.

New Nonstop Service
Southwest recently began serving several new routes throughout North America. This past Saturday, the carrier launched new international service between:

Houston (Hobby) and Cozumel, Mexico (Twice-daily)
Baltimore/Washington and Providenciales, Turks and Caicos (Seasonal Service offered on Saturdays)

The carrier also began daily nonstop service between Maui and Sacramento, Calif., between Atlanta and Memphis (two flights per day Sunday-Friday, one flight on Saturdays), and once-daily service between Des Moines and Denver.

The carrier also recently announced its intention to serve Steamboat Springs through the Yampa Valley Regional Airport (HDN) by the end of 2020. More details, including schedules, will be released in the coming months.
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SANFan
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:14 pm

Wow, interesting sign of the times: a WN schedule release has garnered essentially no discussion on A.net! The MAX grounding, corona virus... my guess is we here on A.net figure whatever WN is scheduling for this fall means nothing in March so why even talk about it? Wow!

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Vctony
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:01 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
DALLAS, March 12, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE: LUV) today extended its bookable flight schedule through Oct. 30, 2020. As the carrier publishes its full schedule, it is adding new international service to and from Phoenix's Sky Harbor International Airport beginning in October.

Effective Oct. 8, 2020, Southwest will offer twice-daily nonstop service between Phoenix and Cabo San Lucas/Los Cabos* and once-daily nonstop service between Phoenix and Puerto Vallarta*. Phoenix will become the carrier's 23rd city to serve as an international gateway for the airline.

*Both routes are subject to requisite government approvals.

Long Beach Service Expands
Southwest also announced today an expansion of its service for Customers in the LA Basin who utilize Long Beach Airport. Effective Aug. 11, 2020, will add one additional nonstop flight on weekdays directionally between:

Long Beach, Calif. and Oakland (A total of five roundtrip flights Mondays-Fridays)
Long Beach, Calif. and San Jose, Calif. (A total of five roundtrip flights Mondays-Fridays)

With these new routes, Southwest will offer up to 14 departures on weekdays from Long Beach.

New Nonstop Service
Southwest recently began serving several new routes throughout North America. This past Saturday, the carrier launched new international service between:

Houston (Hobby) and Cozumel, Mexico (Twice-daily)
Baltimore/Washington and Providenciales, Turks and Caicos (Seasonal Service offered on Saturdays)

The carrier also began daily nonstop service between Maui and Sacramento, Calif., between Atlanta and Memphis (two flights per day Sunday-Friday, one flight on Saturdays), and once-daily service between Des Moines and Denver.

The carrier also recently announced its intention to serve Steamboat Springs through the Yampa Valley Regional Airport (HDN) by the end of 2020. More details, including schedules, will be released in the coming months.


PHX - PVR/SJD were a long time coming. It's nice to see PHX getting some love from WN on the international side.
 
wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:58 am

So Rumoured the new western destination is HNL-PHX 11:45-20:50
08:00-11:45 PHX-HNL.
I don't see it going westbound with the 737-800ng
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Midwestindy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:25 pm

https://thepointsguy.com/news/southwest ... s-plummet/

WN is cutting its published capacity by 20% from April 14 through June 5

"Southwest has experienced more dramatic declines in passenger bookings in March and second quarter 2020, as well as an unprecedented increase in close-in trip cancellations"

"Demand, by all accounts, has worsened dramatically. Only about 67% of the airline’s seats were full during the first 15 days of March, Southwest said Monday. In addition, the trend is toward average loads — or the percent of seats that are full — of just 50% on its flights."
Status for 2019/2020: AAdvantage Platinum, Delta Gold, Southwest A-List
 
smokeybandit
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:32 pm

I'm one of those close-in cancellations. A business trip next week was canceled.
 
ericm2031
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:32 am

They also took the $1B from its credit line it has always had ready and have arranged for another one of equal value. This gives them $6.2B in cash with $10B available to borrow against their mainly owned fleet. I wonder if they're looking at beefing up their fuel hedging position while oil is so low?
 
avi8
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:39 pm

I think Southwest is one of the best-positioned airlines to combat these terrible times for many industries. The industry will start to recover more or less at the same time that the MAX will be recertified, giving them a better hand to grip on markets whose carrier is struggling.
avi8
 
Boston757
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:16 pm

Good thing their not so heavily invested in long haul international.
 
737max8
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:43 pm

Boston757 wrote:
Good thing their not so heavily invested in long haul international.


And various supply chains from different aircraft manufactures and types!
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flyswatter
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:29 pm

Southwest has started ferrying planes to Victorville (VCV).

They are also ceasing international operations March 23-May 4, per their website
https://www.southwest.com/Coronavirus/? ... ravel-info
 
ericm2031
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:38 pm

Looks like WN will cancel 1,000 flights a day until the April 14th schedule cuts.

Also, allowing rebooking of same itinerary with no fare difference. Extending travel funds that were set to expire. Any new travel funds will be extended beyond typical expiration date.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... tions.html

https://m.marketscreener.com/SOUTHWEST- ... -30197737/
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:38 am

The following planes have been, or are en route to VCV as of 03/22/2020

N270WN
N561WN
N705SW
N714CB
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW
 
Silver1SWA
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:39 am

SXDFC wrote:
The following planes have been, or are en route to VCV as of 03/22/2020

N270WN
N561WN
N705SW
N714CB
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW


714 :crying:
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
dbo861
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:06 pm

SXDFC wrote:
The following planes have been, or are en route to VCV as of 03/22/2020

N270WN
N561WN
N705SW
N714CB
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW


Are those all 73Gs or are there some 738s mixed in there?
 
alpine1989
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:36 pm

So far, all B737-700s

Alpine
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:47 pm

As of now it seems like they're sending the older -700s.
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:50 pm

New additions as of 03/22/2020

N7834A
N558WN
N7829B
N7860A
N786SW
N787SA
 
wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:15 pm

From my understanding all the 737-700 are the aircraft that were and or are scheduled to be retired since that MAX8 grounding. When the MAX8 gets ungrounded later this year will be a one for one replacement zero growth now. Other talk Steamboat springs may be pushed to winter 2021 now.

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SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:54 pm

More additions..

N7822A
N7839A
 
WN732
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:06 pm

Silver1SWA wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
The following planes have been, or are en route to VCV as of 03/22/2020

N270WN
N561WN
N705SW
N714CB
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW


714 :crying:


I hope this is just temporary. N711HK will probably go soon too :(
 
ericm2031
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:21 am

If these are mainly older -700s, are they maybe avoiding some costly overhauls they had to add to extend the lives of these, to cover for the MAX?
 
joeljack
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:32 am

WN732 wrote:
Silver1SWA wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
The following planes have been, or are en route to VCV as of 03/22/2020

N270WN
N561WN
N705SW
N714CB
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW


714 :crying:


I hope this is just temporary. N711HK will probably go soon too :(


I wonder if these were the 19 frames that were supposed to go to UA end of December but got a delayed exit because of the Max stuff?
 
737max8
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:52 am

joeljack wrote:
WN732 wrote:
Silver1SWA wrote:

714 :crying:


I hope this is just temporary. N711HK will probably go soon too :(


I wonder if these were the 19 frames that were supposed to go to UA end of December but got a delayed exit because of the Max stuff?


No.
The thoughts and opinions expressed in my comments do not represent that of any airline or affiliate.
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wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:33 am

Like everyone else loads are horrible.
I wouldn't be surprised if WN parked all 200 of the NON ETOPS 800's.
Makes no sense to Fly around 175 seats empty aircraft. Frees up the flight attendant scheduling from flying around a extra attendant to cover the 800's.

Hawai'i is going on lock down it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out for WN.
HA is dropping all but one daily flying to LAX.
Will this put the pressure on WN to also scale back or temporarily suspended service.

Crazy times
Flyguy
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N383SW
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:00 am

joeljack wrote:
WN732 wrote:
Silver1SWA wrote:

714 :crying:


I hope this is just temporary. N711HK will probably go soon too :(


I wonder if these were the 19 frames that were supposed to go to UA end of December but got a delayed exit because of the Max stuff?


No, the -700’s that are going to UA are some of the 77XX tail numbers and it’s posted somewhere in the UA thread with the tail numbers and estimated dates.
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:53 pm

UPDATE 03/24/2020

N270WN
N558WN
N561WN
N568WN
N705SW
N714CB (Desert Gold C/S)
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N728SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SW
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N777QC
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N789SW
N7815L
N7821L
N7823A
N7826A
N7827A
N7834A
N7837A
N7860A
N7861J
N7884G
N7885A

As of now, the fate of these birds are unknown. ** All information was obtained through FR24 app**
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:01 am

UPDATE 03/30/2020

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779(STORED 03/2020)
781(NEW MEXICO ONE)
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787(STORED 03/2020)
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946(LOUISIANA ONE)
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8544
8545
8546
8547
8548
8549
8550
8551
8552
8553
8554
8555
8556
8557
8558
8559
8560
8561
8562
8563
8564
8565
8566
8567
8568
8569
8570
8570
8571
8572
8573
8574
8575
8576
8577
8578
8579
8580
8581
8582
8583
8584

==========

737-7MAX (STORED/ YET TO BE DELIVERED)

7203
7204
7205
7206
7207

===========

737-8MAX / OVERWATER (STORED 03/2019)

8701(MAX PROTOTYPE #1)
8702(MAX PROTOTYPE #2)
8703(MAX PROTOTYPE #3/ NOT DELIVERED)
8704(MAX PROTOTYPE #4)
8705
8706
8707
8708
8709
8710
8711
8712
8713
8714
8715
8716
8717
8718
8719
8720
8721
8722
8723
8724
8725
8726
8727
8728
8729
8730
8731
8732
8733
8734
8735
8736
8737
8738
8743

=========

737-8MAX / NON OVERWATER (STORED 03/2019)

8800
8801
8802
8809
8812

STORED A/C - VCV 03/2020
=====================
N270WN
N558WN
N561WN
N568WN
N705SW
N714CB ( DESERT GOLD C/S)
N716SW
N717SA
N719SW
N726SW
N743SW
N745SW
N768SW
N770SA
N771SA
N773SA
N774SW
N775SW
N776WN
N777QC
N778SW
N779SW
N783SW
N784SW
N785SW
N789SW
N7815L
N7823A
N7826A
N7827A
N7834A
N7837A
N7860A
N7861J
N7884G
N7885A

** FATE OF A/C UNKNOWN **

737-700 TO UAL
============
SWA# UAL#
N7710A - N12761
N7711N - N12762
N7712G - N12763
N7716A - N12764
N7717D - N13765
N7723E - N13769
N7727A - N13771
N7729A - N13772
N7731A - N13773
N7733B - N13774
N7707C - N15758
N7718B - N16766
N7708E - N17759
N7722B - N17768
N7706A - N18757
N7709A - N24760
N7719A - N28767
N7725A - N4770

Sources for info based off of various pictures, FR24 and plane pictures.net for UAL data.
 
SXDFC
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Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:07 pm

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:01 am

SCIMITAR MOD
==========

737-700
=======

223
232
233
251
252
253
254
255
256
258
260
262
264
265
266
267
268
269
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280(MISSOURI ONE)
281
282
283
284
285
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
900
901
902
903
907
908
909
910
912
913
914
915
917
920
926
959
960
961
962
963
964
965
966
967
968
969
7732
7733
7734
7737
7738
7739
7740
7741
7742
7743
7744
7745
7746
7747
7748
7750
7751
7855 **OLDEST A/C W SCIMITARS**
7857
7858
7860(STORED 03/2020)
7861(STORED 03/2020)
7862
7869
7881
7887
7888
7889

737-800 *ETOPS*
=============
8301
8302
8303
8304
8305
8306
8307
8308
8309
8310
8311
8312
8313
8314
8315
8316
8317
8318
8319
8320
8321
8322
8323
8324
8325
8326
8327
8328
8329

737-800
=======

8600
8601
8602
8603
8604
8605
8606
8607
8608
8609
8610
8611
8612
8613
8614
8615
8616
8617
8618
8619
8620
8621
8622
8624
8625
8626
8627
8628
8629
8630
8631
8632
8633
8634
8635
500WR
8637
8638
8639
8640
8641
8642(HEART ONE)
8643
8644
8645(HEART TWO)
8646
8647
8651
8652
8653
8654
8655
8656
8657
8658
8659
8660
8661
8662
8663
8664
8665
8667
8668
8669
8670
8671
8672
8673
8674
8675
8676
8677
8678
8679
8680
8681
8682
8683
8684
8685
8687
8688
8689
8690
8691
8692
8693
8694
8695
8696
8697
8698
8699
8501
8502
8503
8504
8506
8507
8508
8509
8510
8511
8512
8513
8514
8515
8516
8517
8518
8519
8520
8521
8522
8523
8524
8525
8526
8527
8528
8529
8530
8531
8532
8533
8534
8535
8536
8537
8538
8539
8540
8541
8542
8543
8544
8545
8546
8547
8548
8549
8550
8551
8552
8553
8554
8555
8556
8557
8558
8559
8560
8561
8562
8563
8565
8566
8567
8568
8569
8570
8571
8572
8573
8574
8575
8576
8577
8578
8579
8580
8581
8582
8583
8584
 
wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:18 pm

WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy
my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
 
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LotsaRunway
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:35 pm

wnflyguy wrote:
WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy

I wonder if this means some cities will go dark for a while.
 
tomaheath
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:40 pm

LotsaRunway wrote:
wnflyguy wrote:
WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy

I wonder if this means some cities will go dark for a while.

They brought a few to Manchester this morning using some of there remote ramps there.
 
wnflyguy
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pm

LotsaRunway wrote:
wnflyguy wrote:
WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy

I wonder if this means some cities will go dark for a while.

All the networks going to maintain but probably be more Of a spoke and hub operations vs a lot of long and medium haul flights is my guess.
They probably should have scaled down at the same time as everyone else did sooner.
I think they originally approach this like a 9/11 situation hoping normal service would resume and have a industry advantage to gain some ground on others. But unfortunately this isn't the situation so now WN is like everyone else in pure survival mode.

The industry definitely going to have some massive casualties after all this just wonder who's gonna fail because of this pandemic.

Scary times
Flyguy
my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
 
WN732
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Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:49 am

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:03 pm

wnflyguy wrote:
LotsaRunway wrote:
wnflyguy wrote:
WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy

I wonder if this means some cities will go dark for a while.

All the networks going to maintain but probably be more Of a spoke and hub operations vs a lot of long and medium haul flights is my guess.
They probably should have scaled down at the same time as everyone else did sooner.
I think they originally approach this like a 9/11 situation hoping normal service would resume and have a industry advantage to gain some ground on others. But unfortunately this isn't the situation so now WN is like everyone else in pure survival mode.

The industry definitely going to have some massive casualties after all this just wonder who's gonna fail because of this pandemic.

Scary times
Flyguy


Y'all will make it through. This will eventually pass as all of the other viruses do. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see some outright city suspensions, even if for a little while. What comes to mind are places like RIC and GSP.
 
Silver1SWA
Posts: 4671
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:11 pm

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:17 pm

wnflyguy wrote:
LotsaRunway wrote:
wnflyguy wrote:
WN announced it's cutting if flying down to 2000 flights a day for May and June.
Sound like there's going to park 200 more aircraft also.

Flyguy

I wonder if this means some cities will go dark for a while.

All the networks going to maintain but probably be more Of a spoke and hub operations vs a lot of long and medium haul flights is my guess.
They probably should have scaled down at the same time as everyone else did sooner.
I think they originally approach this like a 9/11 situation hoping normal service would resume and have a industry advantage to gain some ground on others. But unfortunately this isn't the situation so now WN is like everyone else in pure survival mode.

The industry definitely going to have some massive casualties after all this just wonder who's gonna fail because of this pandemic.

Scary times
Flyguy


They are shifting their approach. Instead of gradually scaling down by removing and adjusting pieces to already existing schedules they are now starting with a fresh slate to build a schedule tailored to the current environment.

The announcement came off to me as a slightly more upbeat (relatively of course), like the situation may be bottoming out, now manage it and be ready to meet the needs on the other side.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
Jshank83
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:41 pm

Looks like they pushed thru the new schedule. At least the schedule for now.
 
Jshank83
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Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:18 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Looks like they pushed thru the new schedule. At least the schedule for now.


Well maybe not. I was just looking at later this week.
 
justplanesmart
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Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2001 3:25 pm

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:48 am

Additional 737-700 aircraft with split-scimitars:

N265WN
N555LV
N556WN
N904WN
N906WN
N7752B
N7886A
"So many planes; so little time..."
 
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knope2001
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Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:54 am

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:41 pm

Looks like new schedules are out there. It appears it might be just for mid-April through mid-May, though I am seeing some difference in that period. For example LAX-SFO is down to 3x on the weekdays I'm checking in mid-late April but 4x in early-mid May.

These are for a weekday in early-mid May...I think I had checked the 11th or 12th. Just a sampling of some routes which had traditionally been higher frequency. Number in parenthesis is what Southwest shows on the route for mid August to give an idea of what "normal" had been like.

LAX
SFO 4 (9)
OAK 4 (14)
SJC 4 (12)
LAS 4 (11)
PHX 4 (9)
SMF 4 (9)

DAL
HOU 7 (20)
AUS 5 (10)
SAT 5 (10)

HOU
MSY 4 (10)

MDW
BWI 6 (8)
STL 3 (9)
MCI 5 (9)
BNA 2 (8)
CLE 3 (5)
CMH 3 (7)
ATL 3 (7)
LGA 4 (8)
PHX 2 (7)
DEN 6 (10)

Just a sampling. Not a surprise to see high-frequency shorter routes get serious cutbacks. Just so much uncertainty in what demand will be. In seeing all those LAX short hauls cut to a uniform 4x/day they seem (in those markets) to simply schedule a handful of well-spaced flights during the day to reasonably serve travelers (business or leisure) but nobody knows if there will be 100 people wanting to fly to OAK at 7:45am or 10 people. In the absence of any reasonable guess on what demand will be this might be a pretty reasonable approach.
 
ericm2031
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Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:46 am

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:57 pm

It probably won’t have that meaningful of an impact for WN LAX flights but AA will have a very limited presence after April 6th when Compass draws down, including no flights to NorCal, so that could help get a few extra seats filled.
 
midway7
Posts: 289
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:24 pm

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:59 pm

PDX on weekdays in May

OAK - 3
SJC - 2
PHX - 0 (surprising)
DEN - 3
DAL - 0
MDW - 1
MCI - 0
STL - 1
SMF - 2
LAS - 3
 
msycajun
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Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:13 am

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:01 pm

I checked MSY last night. Spot checks showing a much deeper cut in the first full week of May. On May 8, MSY is down to 28 departures from the usual 70 or so.
 
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knope2001
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Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:54 am

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:15 pm

16 at Milwaukee on weekdays in early May, around half of normal. If I have a chance I may run through a hub or two.
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