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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:24 am

PDX is a lot like Al Bundy. Things start to go right, than, at the last minute, it all falls apart.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:01 am

AA will be ending LAX-EUG/RDM/MFR (as well as LAX-SAN/FAT/SDF), as AS will begin LAX-EUG/MFR (and LAX-FAT). AS already serves LAX-RDM.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... -airlines/
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:27 pm

7/28 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1449641

AA EUG-LAX AUG 1.4>0[2] SEP 2>0[2] OCT 1.9>0[2] NOV 2>0[2] DEC 2>0[2] JAN 1.8>0[1.7] FEB 2>0[1.9] MAR 1.9>0[2] APR 2>0[1.7]
AA EUG-PHX OCT 1.0>1.9[1.0] NOV 1.0>2[0.9] DEC 1.0>2[1.0] JAN 0.9>1.8[1.0] FEB 1.1>2[1.0] MAR 1.0>1.9[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0]
AA LAX-RDM AUG 0.7>0[1.4] SEP 1.0>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0[1.0] DEC 1.0>0[1.5] JAN 0.9>0[1.2] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
AA PHX-RDM OCT 1.0>1.9[1.0] NOV 1.0>2[0.9] DEC 1.0>2[1.0] JAN 0.9>1.8[1.0] FEB 1.1>2[1.0] MAR 1.0>1.9[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0]
AA LAX-MFR AUG 0.7>0[1.0] SEP 1.0>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0[1.0] DEC 1.0>0[1.5] JAN 0.9>0[1.2] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
AA LAX-MFR AUG 0.7>0[1.0] SEP 1.0>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0[1.0] DEC 1.0>0[1.5] JAN 0.9>0[1.2] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]

AS OMA-PDX APR 0>0.4[0]

B6 BOS-PDX AUG 1.1>0.5[1.6]
B6 JFK-PDX AUG 0.8>0.4[1.0]
B6 LGB-PDX AUG 1.0>0.5[1.0]

BA LHR-PDX AUG 0.7>0[0] SEP 0.7>0[0] OCT 0.6>0[0] NOV 0.6>0[0] DEC 0.6>0[0] JAN 0.5>0[0] FEB 0.6>0[0] MAR 0.7>0[0] APR 0.8>0[0]

DL AMS-PDX AUG 0.7>0[1.0]

F9 DEN-PDX AUG 1.8>1.4[1.9]

WN BUR-PDX SEP 0.7>0[0.7]
WN LAS-PDX SEP 5>3[4]
WN LAX-PDX SEP 0.7>0[1.7]
WN MDW-PDX SEP 1.8>1.1[1.5]
WN OAK-PDX SEP 6>4[6]
WN ONT-PDX SEP 0.7>0[1.0]
WN PDX-SAN SEP 0.8>0[3]
WN PDX-SJC SEP 5>3[6]
WN PDX-SMF SEP 4>3[4]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:27 pm

Dreamflight767 wrote:
PDX is a lot like Al Bundy. Things start to go right, than, at the last minute, it all falls apart.


I had high hopes that this was the year we hit 20mil pax. And competing carriers on and intercontinental route would have been amazing.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:51 pm

MFR watchers: enjoyed watching a Navy P3 Orion doing touch and goes at MFR this morning. Nice slow and low patterns over town, shining in the sun, with retro smoke trails.. Not sure why it's here; looking for submarines in Crater Lake?
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 am

Nice to see Air Canada Express back at PDX.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:47 am

pdxswa wrote:
Nice to see Air Canada Express back at PDX.


Agreed. Is Westjet coming back anytime soon?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:25 pm

8/4 OAG: viewforum.php?f=3

AA LAX-PDX SEP 2>0.7[3]
AA PDX-PHX SEP 3>1.9[3]

B6 BOS-PDX SEP 0.5>0.3[1.1]
B6 JFK-PDX NOV 0.6>1.0[0.7] DEC 0.7>1.0[0.8] JAN 0.6>1.0[0.7] FEB 0.6>1.0[0.6] MAR 0.5>1.0[0.8] APR 0.5>0.9[0.7]
B6 LGB-PDX SEP 0.5>0[1.0]

DL DTW-PDX SEP 1.0>0.6[1.4]

F9 DEN-PDX SEP 1.5>1.0[2]

G4 LAS-MFR SEP 0.5>0.3[0.3]

SY MSP-PDX SEP 0.8>0.3[0.9]

UA DEN-PDX SEP 4>3[5]
UA EWR-PDX SEP 0.8>0[1.9]
UA IAD-PDX SEP 0.8>0[1.0]
UA IAH-PDX SEP 3>1.0[2]
UA ORD-PDX SEP 3>1.0[4]
UA PDX-SFO SEP 6>3[7]
UA DEN-EUG SEP 3>2[3]
UA EUG-LAX SEP 1.5>0[1.8]
UA EUG-ORD SEP 0.8>0[1.0]
UA EUG-SFO SEP 4>2[4]
UA DEN-RDM SEP 3>2[3]
UA LAX-RDM SEP 0.8>0[1.0]
UA ORD-RDM SEP 0.8>0[1.0]
UA RDM-SFO SEP 4>2[4]
UA DEN-MFR SEP 3>2.0[3]
UA LAX-MFR SEP 1.5>0[2.0]
UA MFR-SFO SEP 4>2.0[4]
UA ACV-DEN SEP 0.8>0[1.0]
UA ACV-LAX SEP 1.8>1.0[2.0]
UA ACV-SFO SEP 3>2[3]
UA DEN-PSC SEP 3>2[3]
UA ORD-PSC SEP 0.8>0[0]
UA PSC-SFO SEP 1.5>0[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:30 pm

Wingtips56 wrote:
MFR watchers: enjoyed watching a Navy P3 Orion doing touch and goes at MFR this morning. Nice slow and low patterns over town, shining in the sun, with retro smoke trails.. Not sure why it's here; looking for submarines in Crater Lake?


We get them pretty often in EUG. I assumed they were just practicing approaches or otherwise staying current, and they picked a place with nice long runways but relatively light traffic.

The sound alone is amazing. I've gotten a few photos and videos but nothing up to "real photographer" standards.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:20 pm

They might be back. I am surprised Air Canada is considering the border is closed to only essential workers.

pdxav8r wrote:
pdxswa wrote:
Nice to see Air Canada Express back at PDX.


Agreed. Is Westjet coming back anytime soon?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:21 pm

pdxav8r wrote:
pdxswa wrote:
Nice to see Air Canada Express back at PDX.


Agreed. Is Westjet coming back anytime soon?


I wouldn't count on it. They just slashed their US flights to just LAX & ATL at just 3 weekly each.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:07 pm

Delta has also pulled PDX-LHR for next year as well. Wonder if BA will notice this? PDX-AMS stays at daily for next year so far.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/292978/delta-closes-s21-portland-or-london-heathrow-bookings-in-s21-as-of-08aug20/
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:25 pm

Some thinking - what's the possibility of American Airlines launching Portland to London on its own metal?

AA has a JV with BA so either airline could serve the route. AA has its enhanced partnership with Alaska which encompasses Portland since it's a "west coast alliance".

With Delta suspending/removing PDX-LHR for an indefinite period of time, could this be an opportunity for American to jump on it?

British Airways will likely have a reduced long-haul network with the immediate retirement of around 30 747s. Their PDX-LHR cancellation may have been a repercussion of needing to shuffle its fleet around to maintain whatever frequencies at other destinations.

If I'm not mistaken, Delta inherited Amsterdam and Tokyo-Narita from the Northwest merger. Why was London added in the mid-2010s? Did the former Delta/Alaska partnership have an influence on the route?

As for AA vs BA on PDX-LHR, I'm unsure on the premium traffic between PDX and LHR. If there's not much business traffic (and there will be less with COVID), American's 787-8 with 20J would likely be easier to fill compared to BA's 787-8 with 35J.

However, American has been aiming to make its London-Heathrow network purely on the Boeing 777. Using a 777-200ER on PDX-LHR seems a bit overkill?

Thoughts? Probably a weird idea.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:55 pm

BA is not going to be doing PDX-LHR next year.

Ishrion wrote:
Some thinking - what's the possibility of American Airlines launching Portland to London on its own metal?

AA has a JV with BA so either airline could serve the route. AA has its enhanced partnership with Alaska which encompasses Portland since it's a "west coast alliance".

With Delta suspending/removing PDX-LHR for an indefinite period of time, could this be an opportunity for American to jump on it?

British Airways will likely have a reduced long-haul network with the immediate retirement of around 30 747s. Their PDX-LHR cancellation may have been a repercussion of needing to shuffle its fleet around to maintain whatever frequencies at other destinations.

If I'm not mistaken, Delta inherited Amsterdam and Tokyo-Narita from the Northwest merger. Why was London added in the mid-2010s? Did the former Delta/Alaska partnership have an influence on the route?

As for AA vs BA on PDX-LHR, I'm unsure on the premium traffic between PDX and LHR. If there's not much business traffic (and there will be less with COVID), American's 787-8 with 20J would likely be easier to fill compared to BA's 787-8 with 35J.

However, American has been aiming to make its London-Heathrow network purely on the Boeing 777. Using a 777-200ER on PDX-LHR seems a bit overkill?

Thoughts? Probably a weird idea.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:27 pm

Ishrion wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, Delta inherited Amsterdam and Tokyo-Narita from the Northwest merger. Why was London added in the mid-2010s? Did the former Delta/Alaska partnership have an influence on the route?


No, Northwest flew from Seattle. Delta initiated trans-Pacific flying from Portland when it attempted a trans-Pac gateway with the MD-11s in the (I want to say late 80s/early 90s) when the International gates were built for them at the end of D. And it was only with the latest round that Delta, post merger, tried Amsterdam.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:01 pm

eugdjinn wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, Delta inherited Amsterdam and Tokyo-Narita from the Northwest merger. Why was London added in the mid-2010s? Did the former Delta/Alaska partnership have an influence on the route?


No, Northwest flew from Seattle. Delta initiated trans-Pacific flying from Portland when it attempted a trans-Pac gateway with the MD-11s in the (I want to say late 80s/early 90s) when the International gates were built for them at the end of D. And it was only with the latest round that Delta, post merger, tried Amsterdam.


Delta discontinued Portland-Japan in 2001. Northwest relaunched in 2004, which Delta inherited.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:51 pm

eugdjinn wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, Delta inherited Amsterdam and Tokyo-Narita from the Northwest merger. Why was London added in the mid-2010s? Did the former Delta/Alaska partnership have an influence on the route?


No, Northwest flew from Seattle. Delta initiated trans-Pacific flying from Portland when it attempted a trans-Pac gateway with the MD-11s in the (I want to say late 80s/early 90s) when the International gates were built for them at the end of D. And it was only with the latest round that Delta, post merger, tried Amsterdam.


Incorrect...NW inaugurated PDX-AMS, which DL then inherited.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pm

8/11 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1450201

DL DTW-PDX SEP 0.6>1.0[0]
DL EUG-SLC OCT 2>3[1.9]

SY MSP-PDX APR 0>0.2[0.3] MAY 0>0.7[0.4]

WN DEN-PDX SEP 4>3[0]
WN LAS-PDX SEP 3>2[0]
WN MDW-PDX SEP 1.5>1.2[0]
WN PDX-PHX SEP 3>1.5[0]
WN PDX-SJC SEP 3>2[0]
WN PDX-SMF SEP 3>2[0]
WN PDX-STL SEP 1.0>0.2[0] OCT 1.0>0.8[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:19 am

 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:19 am

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Darn, we just moved from the Condos on the corner of NW 185th & Springville Rd. to Terrebonne. IDK what it'll be, but hoping for more info
707 717 720 727-1/2 737-1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 747-1/2/3/4 757-2/3 767-2/3/4 777-2/3 DC8 DC9 MD80/2/7/8 D10-1/3/4 M11 L10-1/2/5 A300/310/320
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:56 am

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AS737MAX wrote:


Darn, we just moved from the Condos on the corner of NW 185th & Springville Rd. to Terrebonne. IDK what it'll be, but hoping for more info


Small world! I live off of 185th and Walker and work at the Target there. Looks like 30th on the map is the north side of HIO where the Hillsboro Aviation FBO is.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 am

AS737MAX wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:


Darn, we just moved from the Condos on the corner of NW 185th & Springville Rd. to Terrebonne. IDK what it'll be, but hoping for more info


Small world! I live off of 185th and Walker and work at the Target there. Looks like 30th on the map is the north side of HIO where the Hillsboro Aviation FBO is.


Totally small world, we shopped that Target 2 x monthly when we lived there & my BFF's kid works at the Chevron on Walker, right before 185th, heading west on Walker. In that case, stay well my friend!
707 717 720 727-1/2 737-1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 747-1/2/3/4 757-2/3 767-2/3/4 777-2/3 DC8 DC9 MD80/2/7/8 D10-1/3/4 M11 L10-1/2/5 A300/310/320
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:49 pm

RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
RWA380 wrote:

Darn, we just moved from the Condos on the corner of NW 185th & Springville Rd. to Terrebonne. IDK what it'll be, but hoping for more info


Small world! I live off of 185th and Walker and work at the Target there. Looks like 30th on the map is the north side of HIO where the Hillsboro Aviation FBO is.


Totally small world, we shopped that Target 2 x monthly when we lived there & my BFF's kid works at the Chevron on Walker, right before 185th, heading west on Walker. In that case, stay well my friend!


I didnt figure there was anyone on here on the west side with me.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:10 pm

UA 772 inbound from ELP..arrival just before 2pm PST: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2572
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:00 pm

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UA 772 inbound from ELP..arrival just before 2pm PST: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2572


Outbound departure for ORD at 3:25pm: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KPDX/KORD
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:49 pm

Troop charter bringing home some of our soldiers from overseas.


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UA 772 inbound from ELP..arrival just before 2pm PST: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2572
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:18 am

twincommander wrote:
I didnt figure there was anyone on here on the west side with me.


Orenco! Where all the GA is always turning base for HIO.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:15 am

Hey, everyone! Can anyone tell me what planes used to be at OMSI when it was by the zoo? I *think* there was a DC-3 and an F-102 (or F-106), but I was just a kid at the time.

Thanks!

Edit: Confirmed to be a converted C-47 and an F-102.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:49 am

slinker wrote:
Hey, everyone! Can anyone tell me what planes used to be at OMSI when it was by the zoo? I *think* there was a DC-3 and an F-102 (or F-106), but I was just a kid at the time.

Thanks!

Edit: Confirmed to be a converted C-47 and an F-102.


Yes, there was a Hughes Airwest DC3 that you could go into. They called it the Gooney Bird and there was a tape recorded story you could hear once inside the airplane. The Hughes Airwest name got repainted to match their final livery, but I don't think they painted it yellow? There was also an F-102 on display outside.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:06 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:


Darn, we just moved from the Condos on the corner of NW 185th & Springville Rd. to Terrebonne. IDK what it'll be, but hoping for more info


Small world! I live off of 185th and Walker and work at the Target there. Looks like 30th on the map is the north side of HIO where the Hillsboro Aviation FBO is.


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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:02 pm

Last night at PDX, someone broke through the security gate and drove onto the airfield. They drove under a Southwest plane on the taxiway and finally the Port Police pitted the car behind the Southwest gates. The person tried to run but was tackled by the Police. I heard there was a child in the car as well.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:34 pm

8/18 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1450555

AA LAX-PDX SEP 0.7>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX SEP 1.5>1.1[2]

AC PDX-YVR SEP 3>0.7[3]
AC PDX-YYC SEP 0.8>0[1.0]

AS ANC-PDX OCT 4>1.0[3] NOV 4>2[3]
AS AUS-PDX SEP 1.0>0[2] OCT 2>0.8[1.0] NOV 1.6>0.9[1.0]
AS BOI-PDX OCT 7>4[7] NOV 8>6[8]
AS BOS-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.3] OCT 1.2>0.9[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 3>1.7[2]
AS BZN-PDX OCT 1.2>0.1[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DAL-PDX OCT 3>0[1.9] NOV 3>1.1[2]
AS DCA-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS EUG-PDX OCT 3>0[3] NOV 3>0.7[3]
AS EWR-PDX OCT 1.0>0[0.8] NOV 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS FAT-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 2>1.4[2]
AS GEG-PDX OCT 7>4[8] NOV 7>5[9]
AS JFK-PDX OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS KOA-PDX OCT 1.0>0[0] NOV 1.0>0.7[0]
AS LAX-PDX OCT 8>5[8] NOV 10>7[8]
AS LIH-PDX OCT 0.6>0[0]
AS MCO-PDX OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AS MFR-PDX SEP 2>1.5[6] OCT 6>1.9[5] NOV 6>3[6]
AS MSO-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.3] OCT 1.2>0.9[1.0]
AS MSP-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX OCT 4>0.9[3] NOV 4>1.7[3]
AS ONT-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 3>1.7[2]
AS PAE-PDX OCT 2>0[4] NOV 2>0.7[4]
AS PDX-RDM OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-RNO OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SAN SEP 5>4[6] OCT 6>4[4] NOV 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SBP OCT 1.0>0[0] NOV 1.0>0.4[0]
AS PDX-SEA OCT 18>17[21]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 5>4[7] OCT 7>5[6] NOV 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC OCT 5>2[5] NOV 5>3[5]
AS PDX-SLC SEP 2>1.0[2]
AS PDX-SMF OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA SEP 3>2[4] OCT 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 2>1.4[2]
AS PDX-YVR OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]

DL AMS-PDX OCT 1.0>0.3[1.0]

HA OGG-PDX SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0]

WN DEN-PDX JAN 0.6>4[5] MAR 0>5[3] APR 0>1.8[4]
WN LAS-PDX JAN 0.4>3[2] MAR 0>4[3] APR 0>1.4[4]
WN MDW-PDX JAN 0.1>1.0[1.2] FEB 0>1.0[1.1] MAR 0>1.0[0.9] APR 0>0.4[1.5]
WN OAK-PDX JAN 0.5>4[6] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.7[6]
WN PDX-PHX JAN 0.6>3[4] FEB 0>4[3] MAR 0>4[3] APR 0>1.5[4]
WN PDX-SJC JAN 0.6>4[5] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.8[5]
WN PDX-SMF JAN 0.5>4[5] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.6[5]
WN PDX-STL JAN 0.1>0.9[0.9] MAR 0>1.0[0.9] APR 0>0.4[1.0]

WS PDX-YYC SEP 1.7>0[1.1]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:00 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
8/18 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1450555

AA LAX-PDX SEP 0.7>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX SEP 1.5>1.1[2]

AC PDX-YVR SEP 3>0.7[3]
AC PDX-YYC SEP 0.8>0[1.0]

AS ANC-PDX OCT 4>1.0[3] NOV 4>2[3]
AS AUS-PDX SEP 1.0>0[2] OCT 2>0.8[1.0] NOV 1.6>0.9[1.0]
AS BOI-PDX OCT 7>4[7] NOV 8>6[8]
AS BOS-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.3] OCT 1.2>0.9[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 3>1.7[2]
AS BZN-PDX OCT 1.2>0.1[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DAL-PDX OCT 3>0[1.9] NOV 3>1.1[2]
AS DCA-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0] OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS EUG-PDX OCT 3>0[3] NOV 3>0.7[3]
AS EWR-PDX OCT 1.0>0[0.8] NOV 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS FAT-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 2>1.4[2]
AS GEG-PDX OCT 7>4[8] NOV 7>5[9]
AS JFK-PDX OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS KOA-PDX OCT 1.0>0[0] NOV 1.0>0.7[0]
AS LAX-PDX OCT 8>5[8] NOV 10>7[8]
AS LIH-PDX OCT 0.6>0[0]
AS MCO-PDX OCT 1.0>0.5[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AS MFR-PDX SEP 2>1.5[6] OCT 6>1.9[5] NOV 6>3[6]
AS MSO-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.3] OCT 1.2>0.9[1.0]
AS MSP-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX OCT 4>0.9[3] NOV 4>1.7[3]
AS ONT-PDX OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 3>1.7[2]
AS PAE-PDX OCT 2>0[4] NOV 2>0.7[4]
AS PDX-RDM OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-RNO OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SAN SEP 5>4[6] OCT 6>4[4] NOV 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SBP OCT 1.0>0[0] NOV 1.0>0.4[0]
AS PDX-SEA OCT 18>17[21]
AS PDX-SFO SEP 5>4[7] OCT 7>5[6] NOV 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC OCT 5>2[5] NOV 5>3[5]
AS PDX-SLC SEP 2>1.0[2]
AS PDX-SMF OCT 4>2[4] NOV 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA SEP 3>2[4] OCT 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS OCT 2>1.0[1.9] NOV 2>1.4[2]
AS PDX-YVR OCT 1.0>0[1.0] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]

DL AMS-PDX OCT 1.0>0.3[1.0]

HA OGG-PDX SEP 1.0>0.5[1.0]

WN DEN-PDX JAN 0.6>4[5] MAR 0>5[3] APR 0>1.8[4]
WN LAS-PDX JAN 0.4>3[2] MAR 0>4[3] APR 0>1.4[4]
WN MDW-PDX JAN 0.1>1.0[1.2] FEB 0>1.0[1.1] MAR 0>1.0[0.9] APR 0>0.4[1.5]
WN OAK-PDX JAN 0.5>4[6] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.7[6]
WN PDX-PHX JAN 0.6>3[4] FEB 0>4[3] MAR 0>4[3] APR 0>1.5[4]
WN PDX-SJC JAN 0.6>4[5] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.8[5]
WN PDX-SMF JAN 0.5>4[5] FEB 0>4[5] APR 0>1.6[5]
WN PDX-STL JAN 0.1>0.9[0.9] MAR 0>1.0[0.9] APR 0>0.4[1.0]

WS PDX-YYC SEP 1.7>0[1.1]


Completely forgot the rest of the state. Anyways,

AS EUG-SEA SEP 5>4[5]
AS RDM-SEA SEP 5>4[6] OCT 6>5[5]
AS RDM-SFO OCT 1.0>0.1[0] NOV 1.0>0.4[0]
AS PSC-SEA OCT 6>4[5] NOV 6>5[6]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:37 pm

DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:58 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.


Great information, thank you! At least HND and AMS are coming back, so that is a big positive for PDX in that regard. At some point, DL must have requested and won a change to the frequency requirement from the original slot award. For PDX, it was supposed to be daily with an A332/333. Hopefully eventually it will be daily as originally planned.

No surprise on LHR. Transatlantic from PDX will be interesting next year: no LHR on either DL or BA. Any news on Icelandair or Condor? AMS may end up being the single transatlantic flight from PDX.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:20 pm

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.


Great information, thank you! At least HND and AMS are coming back, so that is a big positive for PDX in that regard. At some point, DL must have requested and won a change to the frequency requirement from the original slot award. For PDX, it was supposed to be daily with an A332/333. Hopefully eventually it will be daily as originally planned.

No surprise on LHR. Transatlantic from PDX will be interesting next year: no LHR on either DL or BA. Any news on Icelandair or Condor? AMS may end up being the single transatlantic flight from PDX.


As of now, Condor is scheduled to return in June of 2021. We'll see what happens. No word on Icelandair or BA yet for next year.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:49 pm

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.


Great information, thank you! At least HND and AMS are coming back, so that is a big positive for PDX in that regard. At some point, DL must have requested and won a change to the frequency requirement from the original slot award. For PDX, it was supposed to be daily with an A332/333. Hopefully eventually it will be daily as originally planned.


While JL doesn't currently serve PDX, JL adding PDX-TYO nonstop service is a possibility with
(a) JL having stronger Japanese point-of-sale than DL does,
(b) JL being able to offer connections onto JL flights out of TYO and AS flights out of PDX, and
(c) JL being able to target its Japanese FF base and AS's FF base in the Pacific Northwest if it adds PDX-TYO nonstop service.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:08 pm

As I said before BA is not coming here next year.

ANA787 wrote:
DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.


Great information, thank you! At least HND and AMS are coming back, so that is a big positive for PDX in that regard. At some point, DL must have requested and won a change to the frequency requirement from the original slot award. For PDX, it was supposed to be daily with an A332/333. Hopefully eventually it will be daily as originally planned.

No surprise on LHR. Transatlantic from PDX will be interesting next year: no LHR on either DL or BA. Any news on Icelandair or Condor? AMS may end up being the single transatlantic flight from PDX.


As of now, Condor is scheduled to return in June of 2021. We'll see what happens. No word on Icelandair or BA yet for next year.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:11 pm

jplatts wrote:
DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
DL released its latest W20-S21 Transoceanic schedule today which is subject to change, of course. Both AMS and HND are scheduled to resume from PDX for S21. As mentioned in earlier posts, PDX-LHR is not scheduled to resume. I find it interesting that HND will have more frequency than AMS at 5x weekly. AMS will operate at 4x weekly. A/C type not mentioned. I predict both will be operated with 767's.


Great information, thank you! At least HND and AMS are coming back, so that is a big positive for PDX in that regard. At some point, DL must have requested and won a change to the frequency requirement from the original slot award. For PDX, it was supposed to be daily with an A332/333. Hopefully eventually it will be daily as originally planned.


While JL doesn't currently serve PDX, JL adding PDX-TYO nonstop service is a possibility with
(a) JL having stronger Japanese point-of-sale than DL does,
(b) JL being able to offer connections onto JL flights out of TYO and AS flights out of PDX, and
(c) JL being able to target its Japanese FF base and AS's FF base in the Pacific Northwest if it adds PDX-TYO nonstop service.


If nothing changes, as of last year ZG had listed PDX as it's first intended mainland US destination, which is a subsidiary of JL with 788's configured with 16 J & the remainder Y. ZG is ZipAir of Japan. They are a low cost JL subsidiary. They fly to BKK & as far as I had heard, HNL would be their next destination & first US city, then PDX. Of course this was before the pandemic.

ZG is for Y heavy destinations, or markets where two different products would be used, like BKK or HNL. ZG is also supposed to be for cities, JL wants to cultivate for full on JL flights but are not quite mature enough yet.
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:11 am

With Governor Brown's recent threat to enforce a 14 day quarantine under certain circumstances, can airline records be used to enforce this?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:06 am

8/25 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1450855

AS HNL-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0]
AS OGG-PDX SEP 1.0>0[1.0]

B6 BOS-PDX SEP 0.3>0[1.1]

DL AMS-PDX OCT 0.3>0[1.0] NOV 0.9>0[0.9] DEC 0.9>0[1.0] JAN 0.7>0[0.7] FEB 0.7>0[0.7] MAR 0.7>0.1[1.0] APR 1.0>0.6[0.9] MAY 1.0>0.6[0] JUN 1.0>0.6[0]
DL ATL-PDX OCT 3>4[3]
DL HND-PDX OCT 0.3>0[0] NOV 1.0>0[0] DEC 1.0>0[0] JAN 1.0>0[0] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0.1[0.1] APR 1.0>0.7[0] MAY 1.0>0.7[0] JUN 1.0>0.7[0]
DL JFK-PDX OCT 1.8>0.7[1.6]
DL LHR-PDX APR 0.2>0[0.2] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0[0]
DL PDX-SEA OCT 8>6[8]
DL PDX-SLC OCT 6>4[5]
DL RDM-SLC OCT 2>3[2.0]
DL MFR-SLC OCT 2>3[2.0]
DL MSP-PSC OCT 2>1.0[1.8]
DL PSC-SEA OCT 4>3[4]

HA OGG-PDX SEP 0.5>0[1.0]

WN DEN-PDX OCT 4>3[5]
WN LAS-PDX OCT 3>2[4]
WN PDX-PHX SEP 1.5>2[3] OCT 3>1.2[2]
WN PDX-SJC OCT 3>2[5]
WN PDX-SMF OCT 3>2[4]
WN PDX-STL OCT 0.8>0[0.9]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:32 pm

So it officially looks like no return of international service on Delta until at least March. Cant say I am surprised. If this sticks, that will make it a whole year.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:39 pm

9/1 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451201

AA DFW-PDX OCT 5>4[4]
AA LAX-PDX OCT 2>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX OCT 1.8>1.1[1.8]
AA PDX-PHX OCT 4>2.0[3]

B6 BOS-PDX OCT 0.8>0[1.0]
B6 FLL-PDX OCT 0.3>0[0] (Big Surprise)
B6 JFK-PDX OCT 0.8>0.6[0.5]

F9 DEN-PDX OCT 1.9>1.1[2]

G4 LAS-MFR OCT 0.6>0.3[0.3]

SY MSP-PDX OCT 0.7>0.3[0.7]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:57 am

I saw G4 operated #8054 from El Paso to MFR, and then the 320 went east #8055 to CID. I'm not familiar with G4 flight numbers, guessing these might be military charters,
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:57 am

AS resumed PDX-DEN yesterday. As far as resumptions are concerned, I think we could also see PDX-STL/ATL/DTW/FAI resumed in the future.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:09 am

AS737MAX wrote:
9/1 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451201

AA DFW-PDX OCT 5>4[4]
AA LAX-PDX OCT 2>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX OCT 1.8>1.1[1.8]
AA PDX-PHX OCT 4>2.0[3]

B6 BOS-PDX OCT 0.8>0[1.0]
B6 FLL-PDX OCT 0.3>0[0] (Big Surprise)
B6 JFK-PDX OCT 0.8>0.6[0.5]

F9 DEN-PDX OCT 1.9>1.1[2]

G4 LAS-MFR OCT 0.6>0.3[0.3]

SY MSP-PDX OCT 0.7>0.3[0.7]


B6 PDX-FLL now starts 08NOV. Blue Basic fare is only $64! Flight operates TH/SU only.
Unfortunately, I doubt it ever happens since PDX has been the loser during the pandemic.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:37 am

pdx wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
9/1 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451201

AA DFW-PDX OCT 5>4[4]
AA LAX-PDX OCT 2>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX OCT 1.8>1.1[1.8]
AA PDX-PHX OCT 4>2.0[3]

B6 BOS-PDX OCT 0.8>0[1.0]
B6 FLL-PDX OCT 0.3>0[0] (Big Surprise)
B6 JFK-PDX OCT 0.8>0.6[0.5]

F9 DEN-PDX OCT 1.9>1.1[2]

G4 LAS-MFR OCT 0.6>0.3[0.3]

SY MSP-PDX OCT 0.7>0.3[0.7]


B6 PDX-FLL now starts 08NOV. Blue Basic fare is only $64! Flight operates TH/SU only.
Unfortunately, I doubt it ever happens since PDX has been the loser during the pandemic.


I am sure AS is happy about this. Honestly as I'm betting in this market, the lions share is PDX origin POS traffic & not FLL POS traffic. This makes perfect sense as to why B6 may be more cautious entering than when the route was announced by AS. Just my two cents
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:15 pm

9/8 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451509

4B PDT-PDX NOV 3>2[4] DEC 3>1.1[3] JAN 0.4>0[4]

AA LAX-PDX NOV 3>1.7[3] DEC 3>1.8[3] MAR 3>2[3]

AS BOS-PDX OCT 0.9>0[0.9] NOV 1.4>0.7[2]
AS MSP-PDX OCT 0.9>0[0.9] NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS PDX-PHX OCT 3>2.0[3] NOV 3>2[2]
AS PDX-PSP DEC 1.6>2[1.9]

G4 EUG-PSP DEC 0>0.4[0] JAN 0>0.3[0]

LF CEC-OAK OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>0.5[1.0]

NK LAS-PDX OCT 3>1.0[3]

UA DEN-PDX OCT 5>3[5]
UA EWR-PDX OCT 2>0[2]
UA IAD-PDX OCT 1.0>0[1.0]
UA IAH-PDX OCT 3>1.0[3]
UA ORD-PDX OCT 4>1.0[4]
UA PDX-SFO OCT 8>4[8]
UA EUG-LAX OCT 2>0.7[2]
UA EUG-ORD OCT 1.0>0[1.0]
UA EUG-SFO OCT 4>3[4]
UA DEN-RDM OCT 3>2.0[3]
UA LAX-RDM OCT 1.0>0.7[1.0]
UA ORD-RDM OCT 0.8>0[0.8]
UA RDM-SFO OCT 4>3[4]
UA LAX-MFR OCT 2>0.7[2]
UA MFR-SFO OCT 4>3[4]
UA DEN-PSC OCT 3>2.0[3]
UA ORD-PSC OCT 1.0>0[1.0]
UA PSC-SFO OCT 2>0[2]
UA ACV-DEN OCT 1.0>0.3[1.0]
UA ACV-LAX OCT 2>0.7[2]
UA ACV-SFO OCT 3>1.7[3]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:47 pm

I'm assuming that LF CEC-OAK reduction to 0.5 in November is a filing error on Contour's part. While their website shows no flights after 15NOV, they were just awarded another 2 years of AEAS (subsidy), and that requires 7 flights/week. Hopefully LF will reload it. That it shows OCT 0>1.0 [0] NOV 0> .... must mean it's a schedule extension due to the AEAS renewal, as it is continuing service we have now.

In other news, I did see a news report online today stating UA will be restoring a lot of service (I guess November or later), and LAX-MFR/RDM/EUG was mentioned specifically.
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