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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:42 am

flyoregon wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

I agree, lots of potential not only in Oregon but the PNW... JSX had planned BFI-PDX to begin in June, but with covid that plan was scrapped and they have even left BFI all together. 4xDaily BFI-PDX would do outstanding. Plus Kenmore Air Express passengers from the San Juan Islands could utilize the Boutique Air route and connect in BFI.

Not much of Boutique’s route network lends itself to connecting to other BTQ flights with the exception of maybe Palm Springs. If they begin BFI-PDX I could see many passengers taking the flight to connect onto their other Oregon destinations.


When I first posted about RDM, I just tripped across it looking at 4B's site & RDM-PDX-PDT was a clear option, the connections were great, leading me to think, the plane must fly PDT-PDX-RDM-PDX-PDT, with a flight number change at PDX. I have no idea how many aircraft 4B has based at PDX, but I'd imagine 2 maybe? They'll need to add one more at least, if they expand more. I still think a PDX-RDM-EUG-PDX flight & v.v. at least once a day would do well on each segment, EUG-RDM hasn't had air service in a long time, since JT or an earlier QX. Even Sunriver has an airport JT served from both RDM & EUG n/s.

Made a few interesting notes after viewing the 4B site. The fares on both RDM & EUG are at minimum $250.00 r/t, both flights are under 30 minutes, having flown both routes before, even less IME.

The flights to PDT are subsidized & I get that, they are twice as long & one can get tickets for under $89.00. r/t. I do not see an option for an RDM day trip, as both daily departures are within 1 1/2 hours of each other on PDX-RDM starting at after 3pm.


Boutique is opening a maintenance base at PDX so planes will be cycling through a lot more frequently. In the past, planes were going to DEN for mtx. So, because of that, perhaps that’s why they’re adding a couple new destinations from PDX.


I must have missed that, thanks flyoregon I appreciate the info, that will potentially help with tech delays & maybe we may see an air bridge at some point.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:43 am

flyoregon wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

I agree, lots of potential not only in Oregon but the PNW... JSX had planned BFI-PDX to begin in June, but with covid that plan was scrapped and they have even left BFI all together. 4xDaily BFI-PDX would do outstanding. Plus Kenmore Air Express passengers from the San Juan Islands could utilize the Boutique Air route and connect in BFI.

Not much of Boutique’s route network lends itself to connecting to other BTQ flights with the exception of maybe Palm Springs. If they begin BFI-PDX I could see many passengers taking the flight to connect onto their other Oregon destinations.


When I first posted about RDM, I just tripped across it looking at 4B's site & RDM-PDX-PDT was a clear option, the connections were great, leading me to think, the plane must fly PDT-PDX-RDM-PDX-PDT, with a flight number change at PDX. I have no idea how many aircraft 4B has based at PDX, but I'd imagine 2 maybe? They'll need to add one more at least, if they expand more. I still think a PDX-RDM-EUG-PDX flight & v.v. at least once a day would do well on each segment, EUG-RDM hasn't had air service in a long time, since JT or an earlier QX. Even Sunriver has an airport JT served from both RDM & EUG n/s.

Made a few interesting notes after viewing the 4B site. The fares on both RDM & EUG are at minimum $250.00 r/t, both flights are under 30 minutes, having flown both routes before, even less IME.

The flights to PDT are subsidized & I get that, they are twice as long & one can get tickets for under $89.00. r/t. I do not see an option for an RDM day trip, as both daily departures are within 1 1/2 hours of each other on PDX-RDM starting at after 3pm.


Boutique is opening a maintenance base at PDX so planes will be cycling through a lot more frequently. In the past, planes were going to DEN for mtx. So, because of that, perhaps that’s why they’re adding a couple new destinations from PDX.


That’s cool, I didn’t know that. Sp now their MX bases are DEN, DFW, and PDX, I believe they are closing their maintenance base in Johnstown because they lost that EAS contract to SkyWest.

Wonder where they will put the East maintenance base, think they will move it to Altoona, PA... one of their new EAS cities
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:31 pm

Boutique may just end up the way of Seaport... Their MX is questionable at times, blind investors, dart board destinations... They are just vultures flying around the nearly dead carcass that is Pt121 aviation at this time.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:43 pm

twincommander wrote:
Boutique may just end up the way of Seaport... Their MX is questionable at times, blind investors, dart board destinations... They are just vultures flying around the nearly dead carcass that is Pt121 aviation at this time.


Hopefully not, although Boutique has a lot of EAS destination funding to keep them afloat. I don’t believe Boutique is a part121 carrier, hopefully they’re MX issues you speak of are fixed.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:55 pm

twincommander wrote:
Boutique may just end up the way of Seaport... Their MX is questionable at times, blind investors, dart board destinations... They are just vultures flying around the nearly dead carcass that is Pt121 aviation at this time.


I liked SeaPort, too. Flew on them once from BFI back home to PDX. It was a nice ride. And that call sign (Sasquatch) was a personal favorite.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:57 pm

lhpdx wrote:
ramprat74 wrote:
Boutique does not fly out of the new Atlantic terminal. They converted the front office of the old Skywest hangar into their FBO.


Thanks for the update Ramprat74.....Did the Port of portland shelve plans for redoing the north ramp to accommodate more RON?? I haven't
seen any movement in that area...


I don't think airlines' are going to need that extra space at the moment anyways, unfortunately... Save for when planes were being stored for COVID. There were 4-5 planes over there for a while, but it's empty now.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm

mbk26 wrote:
I’m hearing rumors that the concourse connector is going down at Pdx in early January. Sounds like a new one will replace it, but there won’t be a seating area to relax as in the current one. If that’s true, that’s a bummer.


I've also heard that from people who work at the airport, so I'd assume it will happen with all the construction going on. Apparently they're going to be redoing the TSA checkpoints or something and are taking a couple of gates away on C and D and moving the checkpoints west. Just what I was told, so can't confirm that.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm



Had fun with the first 777X visit to PDX last week.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:13 pm

No rumor fact from the drawings that the POP put out. The concourse connector is going away.

https://www.portofportland.com/Newsroom

mbk26 wrote:
I’m hearing rumors that the concourse connector is going down at Pdx in early January. Sounds like a new one will replace it, but there won’t be a seating area to relax as in the current one. If that’s true, that’s a bummer.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:46 pm

pdxswa wrote:
No rumor fact from the drawings that the POP put out. The concourse connector is going away. The construction has been going on for sometime. Gates C-2,C-4, D-2, and D-4 are gone forever.

https://www.portofportland.com/Newsroom

mbk26 wrote:
I’m hearing rumors that the concourse connector is going down at Pdx in early January. Sounds like a new one will replace it, but there won’t be a seating area to relax as in the current one. If that’s true, that’s a bummer.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:03 am

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
twincommander wrote:
Boutique may just end up the way of Seaport... Their MX is questionable at times, blind investors, dart board destinations... They are just vultures flying around the nearly dead carcass that is Pt121 aviation at this time.


Hopefully not, although Boutique has a lot of EAS destination funding to keep them afloat. I don’t believe Boutique is a part121 carrier, hopefully they’re MX issues you speak of are fixed.


Well, I don't wish anyone to fly on an unsafe plane. They've wanted me to compromise my integrity at times. I've firmly, but politely declined to pencil whip the issue and actually fix it. Their planes left my care safer than when they arrived. They are a Pt 135 carrier. I'm referring to the state of the 121 carriers and Boutique diving into their kiddie pool.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:21 pm

10/27 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453133

4B PDX-RDM DEC 1.5>0[0] JAN 1.5>2[0] FEB 1.5>2[0]

AC PDX-YVR NOV 0.9>0.6[4]

WS PDX-YYC NOV 0.9>0[1.0]

Exactly the same as last week's.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:35 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
10/27 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453133

4B PDX-RDM DEC 1.5>0[0] JAN 1.5>2[0] FEB 1.5>2[0]

AC PDX-YVR NOV 0.9>0.6[4]

WS PDX-YYC NOV 0.9>0[1.0]

Exactly the same as last week's.


That’s because it is last weeks!
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:38 pm

RWA380 wrote:
Chugach wrote:
RWA380 wrote:

Wow, that was quick. I guess they are staying safe on shorter hops, hoping to see LMT or OTH.


I’d probably add SLE and maybe AST to that list. Plenty of opportunity to link PDX with ex-AS/QX markets in Oregon. The PC12 is a great plane for these types of routes.


There is nothing happening in SLE, each time someone has gone in they leave, with HUT operating many times a day, all day, it's a tough market, but as traffic is horrid N of Wilsonville up I-205, maybe it'll work. AST could work, if the fish packaging plant has been rebuilt, then air traffic would have some basis. I agree the PC-12 would be the perfect craft & both being short hops, it's a smaller risk to either stop


HUT and the other company were merged into Groome Transportation recently. They suspended service due to COVID but their site says they'll restart on 12/1/20 but with a limited schedule. At least it'll be back. It's a good way to go to avoid driving yourself from Salem.

It's too bad about past service to SLE. Didn't Delta pull out last time due to the recession? But I could be wrong about timing. Still, something like those flights to SLC make a lot of sense by offering the most connectivity around the country. So SEA, PHX or DEN?

For Eugene, EUG - PDX provides some connections but EUG - SEA provides more, especially if wanting an overnight going east or international options. I'd like to see more to other hubs or LAX, etc.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:17 pm

Chugach wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
10/27 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453133

4B PDX-RDM DEC 1.5>0[0] JAN 1.5>2[0] FEB 1.5>2[0]

AC PDX-YVR NOV 0.9>0.6[4]

WS PDX-YYC NOV 0.9>0[1.0]

Exactly the same as last week's.


That’s because it is last weeks!


Whoops! Did I miss the new one...?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:25 am

AS737MAX wrote:
Chugach wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
10/27 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453133

4B PDX-RDM DEC 1.5>0[0] JAN 1.5>2[0] FEB 1.5>2[0]

AC PDX-YVR NOV 0.9>0.6[4]

WS PDX-YYC NOV 0.9>0[1.0]

Exactly the same as last week's.


That’s because it is last weeks!


Whoops! Did I miss the new one...?

You're gonna need a lot of room for this week's AS updates alone! It appears to be the complete December re-work (and generally not in a good way...)

bb
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:49 am

SANFan wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
Chugach wrote:

That’s because it is last weeks!


Whoops! Did I miss the new one...?

You're gonna need a lot of room for this week's AS updates alone! It appears to be the complete December re-work (and generally not in a good way...)

bb


Thanks. Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453471

4B EUG-PDX NOV 0>2[0] DEC 0>2[0] JAN 0>2[0] FEB 0>2[0]
4B PDT-PDX NOV 0.8>1.7[0]
4B PDX-RDM NOV 1.7>0.8[1.6] JAN 2>1.0[0] FEB 2>1.0[0]

AA LAX-PDX DEC 2>3[3]

AS ANC-PDX DEC 4>1.0[2]
AS AUS-PDX DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
AS BIL-PDX DEC 2.0>1.0[1.0]
AS BOI-PDX DEC 9>4[7] JAN 9>8[7]
AS BOS-PDX DEC 1.5>0[1.4] JAN 1.1>0.9[1.5]
AS BUR-PDX DEC 3>1.0[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX DEC 3>0[3]
AS DCA-PDX DEC 1.0>0[0.9]
AS DEN-PDX DEC 2>1.0[0]
AS EUG-PDX DEC 2.0>0[3]
AS EWR-PDX DEC 1.0>0[0.9]
AS FAT-PDX DEC 2>0.9[1.7]
AS FCA-PDX DEC 1.0>0[0]
AS GEG-PDX DEC 8>4[7]
AS HNL-PDX DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
AS JFK-PDX DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
AS KOA-PDX DEC 1.0>0.5[0.8]
AS LAS-PDX DEC 4>3[3]
AS LAX-PDX DEC 9>4[7]
AS LIH-PDX DEC 1.0>0.5[0.8]
AS MCI-PDX DEC 1.0>0[0.9]
AS MFR-PDX DEC 6>1.9[5]
AS MSP-PDX DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX DEC 3>1.0[2]
AS OGG-PDX DEC 2.0>1.0[1.9]
AS ONT-PDX DEC 3>1.0[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX DEC 2.0>1.0[1.5]
AS PAE-PDX DEC 2>0[3]
AS PDX-PHX DEC 3>2[1.9]
AS PDX-RDM DEC 4>1.9[4]
AS PDX-RNO DEC 4>2[3]
AS PDX-SAN DEC 6>3[4]
AS PDX-SBP DEC 1.0>0[0]
AS PDX-SEA DEC 18>16[19]
AS PDX-SFO DEC 8>3[7] JAN 8>7[7]
AS PDX-SJC DEC 5>1.9[6]
AS PDX-SLC DEC 4>1.9[2]
AS PDX-SMF DEC 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA DEC 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS DEC 2.0>1.0[1.4]
AS PDX-YVR DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO DEC 1.0>0.4[0]
AS PSC-SEA DEC 6>4[6]

B6 BOS-PDX JUN 1.1>2[0]
B6 JFK-PDX JUN 0.5>1.0[0]

DL DTW-PDX DEC 1.2>1.5[1.2] JAN 1.0>1.3[1.3]
DL JFK-PDX DEC 1.0>0.8[1.5]
DL LAX-PDX DEC 4>5[4]
DL PDX-SEA DEC 7>5[6]
DL RDM-SEA DEC 2>3[3]

HA OGG-PDX DEC 1.0>0.4[1.0]

UA PDX-SFO NOV 3>2[8]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:07 pm

Anyone have any news as to why Delta is moving their ticket counter from the north cluster to the center cluster?

Was at the airport yesterday and peeked behind the barriers to see Delta setting up an all new check in counter in the center ticket counter area.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:54 pm

Frank11 wrote:
Anyone have any news as to why Delta is moving their ticket counter from the north cluster to the center cluster?

Was at the airport yesterday and peeked behind the barriers to see Delta setting up an all new check in counter in the center ticket counter area.

Its all for the new core terminal rebuild. Everyone will be shifting around for awhile till the new digs are built.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:30 am

Just looked at Boutique site and all reference to EUG has disappeared. Guess they changed their mind LOL. And RDM stays one/day. Kind of a waste IMO.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:00 am

sprxUSA wrote:
Just looked at Boutique site and all reference to EUG has disappeared. Guess they changed their mind LOL. And RDM stays one/day. Kind of a waste IMO.


Their fares were a non-starter at over $125 per direction, where PDT remains under $50 each way, as it is subsidized. No way people are paying EUG-PDX r/t over $250, maybe RDM-PDX when it's snowing on the passes.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:56 am

Yeah they seemed to think highly of their service lol. Better off doing a MFR-SLE run perhaps....
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 pm

11/3 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453731

4B EUG-PDX DEC 2>0[0] JAN 2>0[0] FEB 2>0[0]

AA CLT-PDX DEC 1.0>0.8[1.0]
AA DFW-PDX DEC 5>3[5]
AA LAX-PDX DEC 3>0[2]
AA ORD-PDX DEC 2>0.9[2]
AA PDX-PHX DEC 4>1.8[4]

B6 FLL-PDX DEC 0.3>0.1[0.3]
B6 JFK-PDX DEC 0.8>0.2[0.8]

DL DTW-PDX DEC 1.5>0.9[1.2] JAN 1.3>1.0[1.3]

SY MSP-PDX DEC 1.0>0.7[1.0]

UA DEN-PDX DEC 5>3[5]
UA EWR-PDX DEC 2>0.4[2]
UA IAD-PDX DEC 1.0>0.4[1.0]
UA IAD-PDX DEC 1.0>0.4[1.0]
UA ORD-PDX DEC 4>1.1[4]
UA PDX-SFO DEC 7>3[7]
-
UA DEN-EUG DEC 3>2[3]
UA EUG-LAX DEC 2>0.8[2]
UA EUG-ORD DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
UA EUG-SFO DEC 4>1.5[4]
-
UA DEN-RDM DEC 3>1.7[3]
UA RDM-SFO DEC 4>1.5[4]
-
UA DEN-MFR DEC 3>2[3]
UA LAX-MFR DEC 2.0>0.8[2.0]
UA MFR-SFO DEC 4>2[4]
-
UA OTH-SFO DEC 0.4>0.7[0.4]
-
UA DEN-PSC DEC 3>1.8[3]
UA ORD-PSC DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
UA PSC-SFO DEC 1.8>0[1.8]
-
UA ACV-DEN DEC 1.0>0[1.0]
UA ACV-LAX DEC 2.0>0.7[2.0]
UA ACV-SFO DEC 3>1.6[3]

WN DEN-PDX JAN 3>2[5] FEB 4>3[4]
WN LAS-PDX JAN 3>1.8[2] FEB 3>2[3]
WN OAK-PDX JAN 3>2[6] FEB 4>3[5]
WN PDX-PHX JAN 3>1.0[4] FEB 3>1.1[3] MAR 4>3[3]
WN PDX-SJC JAN 4>1.4[5] FEB 4>1.6[5] MAR 5>4[5]
WN PDX-SMF JAN 3>1.6[5] FEB 4>1.9[5]
WN PDX-STL JAN 0.8>0[0.9] FEB 0.9>0[1.0] MAR 0.9>0.6[0.9]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:47 pm

11/10 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1453973

AS PDX-SBP JAN 0.9>0[0] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0.5[0]

F9 DEN-PDX JAN 1.0>0.7[0.9]
F9 LAS-PDX JAN 0.7>0.4[0.6]

G4 AZA-EUG DEC 0.1>0.3[0.1] MAR 0.2>0.5[0.3] APR 0>0.3[0.6] MAY 0>0.2[0.3]
G4 EUG-LAX MAY 0>0.2[0.3]
-
G4 AZA-RDM MAR 0.1>0.3[0.3] MAY 0>0.2[0.3]
-
G4 LAS-MFR APR 0.1>0.4[0.4] MAY 0>0.3[0.4]
G4 LAX-MFR MAY 0>0.2[0.3]
-
G4 LAS-PSC MAY 0>0.2[0.3]
G4 AZA-PSC DEC 0.1>0.3[0.2] FEB 0.1>0.3[0.3] MAR 0.2>0.4[0.3] APR 0>0.4[0.5] MAY 0>0.2[0.4]

UA LAX-RDM DEC 0.8>0.5[1.0]
-
UA OTH-SFO DEC 0.7>0.4[0.4]
-
UA ACV-SFO DEC 1.6>1.2[3]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:03 pm

11/17 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454233

AC PDX-YVR DEC 3>0.8[3]

AS MSO-PDX DEC 0.9>0.5[1.0]

DL MSP-PDX JAN 4>3[3] FEB 4>3[3]
-
DL RDM-SLC JAN 3>2[2.0] FEB 3>2[2]
-
DL EUG-SLC JAN 3>2[2] FEB 3>2[2]
-
DL MFR-SLC JAN 3>2[2] FEB 3>2[2]

F9 LAS-PDX JAN 0.4>0.6[0.6]

NK LAS-PDX APR 0.9>2[2] MAY 0>2[1.9] JUN 0>0.5[0.6]

WS PDX-YYC DEC 0.9>0[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:04 pm

AS737MAX wrote:
11/17 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454233

AC PDX-YVR DEC 3>0.8[3]

AS MSO-PDX DEC 0.9>0.5[1.0]

DL MSP-PDX JAN 4>3[3] FEB 4>3[3]
-
DL RDM-SLC JAN 3>2[2.0] FEB 3>2[2]
-
DL EUG-SLC JAN 3>2[2] FEB 3>2[2]
-
DL MFR-SLC JAN 3>2[2] FEB 3>2[2]

F9 LAS-PDX JAN 0.4>0.6[0.6]

NK LAS-PDX APR 0.9>2[2] MAY 0>2[1.9] JUN 0>0.5[0.6]

WS PDX-YYC DEC 0.9>0[1.0]


Thanks again for breaking out the Oregon info, for easy digesting here! I hear G4 is starting SNA-EUG/MFR think these will be a good choice for G4?
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:56 am

There is an article about G4's expansion in USAToday, today. It doesn't mention EUG but does mention MFR-SNA starting 12FEB. Pricing starting at $69, per the article. SNA service also includes BOI, GJT, PVU, LAS, MSO, RNO and GEG. The article also lists other new service between points outside Oregon.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 pm

11/24 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454491

AA DFW-PDX JAN 5>2[3] FEB 5>4[3]
AA LAX-PDX JAN 2>0[3] FEB 3>1.4[3]
AA ORD-PDX JAN 1.8>0.5[1.2] FEB 2>1.5[1.1]
AA PDX-PHX JAN 4>2[3]

AS ABQ-PDX JAN 1.0>0.1[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS ANC-PDX JAN 4>0.1[3] FEB 3>1.9[2]
AS AUS-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.0]
AS BIL-PDX JAN 1.9>1.0[1.0]
AS BOI-PDX JAN 8>3[7] FEB 8>6[8]
AS BOS-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.5] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.2]
AS BUR-PDX JAN 3>1.0[2] FEB 3>2[2]
AS DAL-PDX JAN 3>0[3] FEB 3>1.9[3]
AS DCA-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS DEN-PDX JAN 1.9>1.0[0]
AS EUG-PDX JAN 1.7>0[3] FEB 3>1.9[3]
AS EWR-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.0]
AS FAT-PDX JAN 1.8>0.9[1.7]
AS FCA-PDX JAN 0.9>0[0] FEB 0.9>0.6[0]
AS GEG-PDX JAN 7>3[7] FEB 8>6[8]
AS HNL-PDX JAN 0.9>0.6[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.8[1.1]
AS JFK-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS KOA-PDX JAN 0.9>0.5[1.0]
AS LAS-PDX JAN 4>3[3]
AS LAX-PDX JAN 9>6[7] FEB 10>8[7]
AS LIH-PDX JAN 0.9>0.4[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.7[1.1]
AS MCI-PDX JAN 0.9>0[0.9] FEB 1.0>0.6[0.2]
AS MCO-PDX JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AS MFR-PDX JAN 5>1.9[5] FEB 6>5[5]
AS MSO-PDX JAN 1.0>0.1[1.5] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.3]
AS MSP-PDX JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS OAK-PDX JAN 3>1.0[2] FEB 3>2[2]
AS OGG-PDX JAN 1.8>1.0[2]
AS ONT-PDX JAN 3>1.0[2] FEB 3>2[2]
AS ORD-PDX JAN 1.8>1.0[1.5]
AS PAE-PDX JAN 1.7>0[3] FEB 2>0[3] MAR 2>0.9[3]
AS PDX-PSP JAN 2.0>3[2] FEB 2>3[2] MAR 2.0>3[1.9]
AS PDX-RDM JAN 4>1.0[4] FEB 4>3[4]
AS PDX-RNO JAN 4>2[3]
AS PDX-SAN JAN 6>4[4] FEB 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SEA JAN 17>15[21] FEB 18>13[23] MAR 18>14[20] APR 18>17[21] MAY 18>16[14] JUN 18>17[12] JUL 18>17[10] AUG 18>17[12] SEP 18>17[17]
AS PDX-SFO JAN 7>4[7] FEB 7>5[7]
AS PDX-SJC JAN 5>3[7] FEB 5>4[5]
AS PDX-SLC JAN 4>1.9[2] FEB 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SMF JAN 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA JAN 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS JAN 1.9>1.0[1.5]
AS PDX-YVR JAN 0.9>0[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
-
AS RDM-SEA JAN 5>4[5] APR 5>6[5] MAY 5>6[6] JUN 5>6[2] JUL 5>6[1.9] AUG 5>6[5] SEP 5>6[5]
AS RDM-SFO JAN 0.9>0.0[0] FEB 1.0>0.6[0]
AS RDM-SJC MAR 1.0>0.5[0]
-
AS MFR-SEA FEB 4>5[4] MAR 4>5[3] APR 4>6[4] MAY 4>6[4] JUN 4>6[2] JUL 4>6[1.9] AUG 4>6[4] SEP 4>6[4]
-
AS EUG-SEA APR 5>6[4] MAY 5>6[5] JUN 5>6[2] JUL 5>6[1.9] AUG 5>6[5] SEP 5>6[5]
-
AS PSC-SEA JAN 6>4[7] FEB 6>5[7] APR 6>7[7] MAY 6>7[6] JUN 6>7[2] JUL 6>7[3] AUG 6>7[6] SEP 6>7[4]

B6 FLL-PDX JAN 0.3>0[0]
B6 JFK-PDX JAN 0.9>0.2[0.8] FEB 1.0>0.6[0.7]

DL DTW-PDX JAN 1.0>0.6[1.3] FEB 1.0>0.6[0.8]
DL JFK-PDX JAN 1.0>0.1[1.3] FEB 1.0>0[1.1]
DL PDX-SEA JAN 5>4[7] FEB 6>4[7]
-
DL MSP-PSC JAN 1.0>0.1[1.1] FEB 1.0>0[1.0]

WN PDX-SJC JAN 1.4>1.1[5]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:33 pm

The new renderings of the PDX central terminal look great: https://djcoregon.com/news/2020/11/20/p ... set-place/

(Can't figure out how to upload the pictures directly but this article contains a few. The article is only free for a few days)
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:29 pm

Hope this works. Cool look indeed.

Image

Image
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:13 am

12/1 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454777

AC PDX-YVR JAN 3>0.9[3]
AC PDX-YYC JAN 0.6>0[0.6]

DL DTW-PDX JAN 0.6>0.1[1.0]
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DL RDM-SEA JAN 3>1.9[3]
-
DL MFR-SEA JAN 3>1.9[3]
-
DL EUG-SEA JAN 3>1.8[3]
-
DL PSC-SEA JAN 3>1.7[3]

G4 LAS-RDM JAN 0.2>0[0.2]
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G4 MFR-SNA APR 0>0.3[0] MAY 0>0.2[0]

WS PDX-YYC JAN 0.9>0[0.9] FEB 1.0>0[1.1] MAR 1.0>0[0.9] APR 1.0>0.2[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:25 pm

nmraja wrote:
Hope this works. Cool look indeed.

Image

Image


Agree! I think the conceptual design on the new central terminal look fantastic. I particularly like that they're finally doing away with the carpet... Though I wonder if a bunch of people will go crazy for it when they tear it all out, just like they did last time. That PDX carpet was showing up all over the place - on tee shirts, in hipster bars, all over facebook. Quite the hubub.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:53 pm

12/8 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454985

4B PDX-RDM JAN 1.0>2[1.0] FEB 1.0>2[0] MAR 0>2.0[0] APR 0>2[0] MAY 0>2[0]

DL PDX-SEA FEB 4>5[7]
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DL RDM-SEA FEB 3>1.8[3]
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DL MFR-SEA FEB 3>1.7[2]
-
DL EUG-SEA FEB 3>1.7[3]
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DL PSC-SEA FEB 3>1.6[4]

F9 LAS-PDX JAN 0.6>0.4[0.6]

G4 AZA-EUG MAR 0.4>0.2[0.3]

NK LAS-PDX JAN 1.8>1.2[1.8]

UA DEN-PDX JAN 5>3[5]
UA EWR-PDX JAN 1.8>0.1[1.8]
UA IAD-PDX JAN 1.0>0.1[1.0]
UA IAH-PDX JAN 3>1.0[3]
UA ORD-PDX JAN 3>0.8[3]
UA PDX-SFO JAN 7>2[7] FEB 7>6[7] MAR 7>6[6] APR 7>6[7] MAY 7>6[5]
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UA DEN-RDM JAN 3>1.9[3]
UA LAX-RDM JAN 1.0>0.7[1.0]
UA ORD-RDM JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0.9] SEP 0>1.0[0.8]
UA RDM-SFO JAN 4>1.7[4]
-
UA DEN-MFR JAN 3>2.0[3]
UA LAX-MFR JAN 1.8>0.6[1.8]
UA MFR-SFO JAN 4>1.7[4]
-
UA DEN-EUG JAN 3>2[3]
UA EUG-LAX JAN 1.9>0.6[1.9]
UA EUG-ORD JAN 0.9>0[0.9]
UA EUG-SFO JAN 4>1.5[3]
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UA DEN-PSC JAN 3>1.8[3]
UA ORD-PSC JAN 0.9>0[0.9]
UA PSC-SFO JAN 1.7>0[1.7]
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UA ACV-DEN JAN 0.9>0[0.9]
UA ACV-LAX JAN 1.9>0.9[1.9]
UA ACV-SFO JAN 3>1.6[3]

& this fun misfile: VA GTP-LAX JAN 0>0.5[0] FEB 0>0.5[0] MAR 0>0.5[0] APR 0>0.5[0] MAY 0>0.5[0] JUN 0>0.5[0] JUL 0>0.5[0] AUG 0>0.5[0] SEP 0>0.5[0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:26 pm

12/15 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455253

AA DFW-PDX FEB 4>2.0[3]
AA LAX-PDX FEB 1.6>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX FEB 1.5>0.5[1.1
AA PDX-PHX FEB 3>2.0[3]

AC PDX-YVR JAN 0.9>0.2[4] FEB 4>3[4]
AC PDX-YYC FEB 0.9>0.5[0.8]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:58 am

It appears Icelandair has removed Portland completely. Not surprising, but so one might want to tell the Port to update the PDX webpage.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:32 am

[/quote]HUT and the other company were merged into Groome Transportation recently. They suspended service due to COVID but their site says they'll restart on 12/1/20 but with a limited schedule. At least it'll be back. It's a good way to go to avoid driving yourself from Salem. [/quote]

Groome is horrible. Hut wasn't bad, but I will drive from Salem-PDX and gladly pay for parking vs. tolerating Groome.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:13 pm

12/22 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455573

AA DFW-EUG MAR 0>0.9[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0]

RWA380, hasn't AA flown this before? I can't remember if it was DFW-EUG-PDX-DFW or DFW-PDX-EUG-PDX-DFW.

F9 DEN-PDX FEB 0.8>0.6[0.7]
F9 LAS-PDX FEB 0.6>0.4[0.6]

WN DAL-PDX APR 0.1>0.7[0.1] MAY 0>1.0[0.1] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>0.5[0]
WN DEN-PDX FEB 3>2.0[4] APR 1.8>5[4] MAY 0>5[4] JUN 0>5[2] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>3[5]
WN LAS-PDX MAR 3>2.0[3] APR 1.4>2[4] MAY 0>2[4] JUN 0>2[3] JUL 0>2[3] AUG 0>1.2[3]
WN OAK-PDX MAR 4>3[4] APR 1.7>4[6] JUN 0>5[3] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>2[4]
WN PDX-PHX MAR 3>2[3] APR 1.5>3[4] JUN 0>3[0.2] JUL 0>3[0.1] AUG 0>1.7[3]
WN PDX-SAN MAR 0>0.4[0.9] APR 0>0.2[0.5]
WN PDX-SJC FEB 1.5>1.0[5] MAR 4>2[5] APR 1.8>3[5] MAY 0>4[5] JUN 0>4[1.6] JUL 0>4[1.9] AUG 0>1.9[3]
WN PDX-SMF MAR 4>1.9[4] APR 1.6>3[5] JUN 0>4[2] JUL 0>4[2] AUG 0>2[3]
WN PDX-STL MAR 0.6>0[0.9] APR 0.4>0.6[1.0] AUG 0>0.5[1.0]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:20 pm

For the last time this year...12/29 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455809

AS BIL-PDX JAN 1.0>0.7[1.5]
AS BZN-PDX JAN 1.0>0.7[0.9]
AS LIH-PDX FEB 0.6>0[1.1]
AS PDX-RDM JAN 1.0>0.8[3]
AS PDX-STS JAN 1.0>0.7[1.5]

B6 JFK-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.7]

G4 EUG-LAX JUN 0>0.2[0] JUL 0>0.2[0.3]
G4 EUG-OAK JUN 0>0.2[0]
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G4 AZA-MFR JUL 0>0.2[0.3]
G4 LAS-MFR JUN 0>0.8[0] JUL 0>0.6[0.4] AUG 0>0.4[0.5]
G4 LAX-MFR JUN 0>0.4[0] AUG 0>0.2[0.4]
G4 MFR-SNA JUN 0>0.4[0] JUL 0>0.3[0] AUG 0>0.2[0]
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G4 AZA-PSC JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.2[0.3]
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:52 am

AS737MAX wrote:
12/22 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455573

AA DFW-EUG MAR 0>0.9[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0]

RWA380, hasn't AA flown this before? I can't remember if it was DFW-EUG-PDX-DFW or DFW-PDX-EUG-PDX-DFW.

F9 DEN-PDX FEB 0.8>0.6[0.7]
F9 LAS-PDX FEB 0.6>0.4[0.6]

WN DAL-PDX APR 0.1>0.7[0.1] MAY 0>1.0[0.1] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>0.5[0]
WN DEN-PDX FEB 3>2.0[4] APR 1.8>5[4] MAY 0>5[4] JUN 0>5[2] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>3[5]
WN LAS-PDX MAR 3>2.0[3] APR 1.4>2[4] MAY 0>2[4] JUN 0>2[3] JUL 0>2[3] AUG 0>1.2[3]
WN OAK-PDX MAR 4>3[4] APR 1.7>4[6] JUN 0>5[3] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>2[4]
WN PDX-PHX MAR 3>2[3] APR 1.5>3[4] JUN 0>3[0.2] JUL 0>3[0.1] AUG 0>1.7[3]
WN PDX-SAN MAR 0>0.4[0.9] APR 0>0.2[0.5]
WN PDX-SJC FEB 1.5>1.0[5] MAR 4>2[5] APR 1.8>3[5] MAY 0>4[5] JUN 0>4[1.6] JUL 0>4[1.9] AUG 0>1.9[3]
WN PDX-SMF MAR 4>1.9[4] APR 1.6>3[5] JUN 0>4[2] JUL 0>4[2] AUG 0>2[3]
WN PDX-STL MAR 0.6>0[0.9] APR 0.4>0.6[1.0] AUG 0>0.5[1.0]


AS737MAX, great question & the short answer is, this is an entirely new route. All of AA's original flights to EUG c 1983-1986 was via PDX, both 727-100/200's & then quickly went to the MD-80's. I just added it to the comprehensive list I published a few times here. The E-175 is perfect for the route & I hope AA starts seasonal RDM-DFW when traffic increases, the SEA flights are fuller lately & it looks like they are going to reduce their QX flights RDM-PDX to 1 daily, according to the OAG thread. Has 4B made that big of an impact on traffic? I still see zero advertising for 4B in Redmond or Bend.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:50 am

RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
12/22 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455573

AA DFW-EUG MAR 0>0.9[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0]

RWA380, hasn't AA flown this before? I can't remember if it was DFW-EUG-PDX-DFW or DFW-PDX-EUG-PDX-DFW.

F9 DEN-PDX FEB 0.8>0.6[0.7]
F9 LAS-PDX FEB 0.6>0.4[0.6]

WN DAL-PDX APR 0.1>0.7[0.1] MAY 0>1.0[0.1] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>0.5[0]
WN DEN-PDX FEB 3>2.0[4] APR 1.8>5[4] MAY 0>5[4] JUN 0>5[2] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>3[5]
WN LAS-PDX MAR 3>2.0[3] APR 1.4>2[4] MAY 0>2[4] JUN 0>2[3] JUL 0>2[3] AUG 0>1.2[3]
WN OAK-PDX MAR 4>3[4] APR 1.7>4[6] JUN 0>5[3] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>2[4]
WN PDX-PHX MAR 3>2[3] APR 1.5>3[4] JUN 0>3[0.2] JUL 0>3[0.1] AUG 0>1.7[3]
WN PDX-SAN MAR 0>0.4[0.9] APR 0>0.2[0.5]
WN PDX-SJC FEB 1.5>1.0[5] MAR 4>2[5] APR 1.8>3[5] MAY 0>4[5] JUN 0>4[1.6] JUL 0>4[1.9] AUG 0>1.9[3]
WN PDX-SMF MAR 4>1.9[4] APR 1.6>3[5] JUN 0>4[2] JUL 0>4[2] AUG 0>2[3]
WN PDX-STL MAR 0.6>0[0.9] APR 0.4>0.6[1.0] AUG 0>0.5[1.0]


AS737MAX, great question & the short answer is, this is an entirely new route. All of AA's original flights to EUG c 1983-1986 was via PDX, both 727-100/200's & then quickly went to the MD-80's. I just added it to the comprehensive list I published a few times here. The E-175 is perfect for the route & I hope AA starts seasonal RDM-DFW when traffic increases, the SEA flights are fuller lately & it looks like they are going to reduce their QX flights RDM-PDX to 1 daily, according to the OAG thread. Has 4B made that big of an impact on traffic? I still see zero advertising for 4B in Redmond or Bend.


Doing a quick check for EUG - DFW in mid-April, aa.com shows EUG - DFW 11:54am - 5:40pm which is good for people connecting to further east to arrive in the evening. But the return schedule is a little odd.
DFW - EUG 12:50pm - 3:10pm, works for connections coming from further east but...doesn't seem designed for traffic originating in Eugene.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:33 am

RWA380 wrote:
AS737MAX wrote:
12/22 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1455573

AA DFW-EUG MAR 0>0.9[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0]

RWA380, hasn't AA flown this before? I can't remember if it was DFW-EUG-PDX-DFW or DFW-PDX-EUG-PDX-DFW.

F9 DEN-PDX FEB 0.8>0.6[0.7]
F9 LAS-PDX FEB 0.6>0.4[0.6]

WN DAL-PDX APR 0.1>0.7[0.1] MAY 0>1.0[0.1] JUN 0>1.0[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>0.5[0]
WN DEN-PDX FEB 3>2.0[4] APR 1.8>5[4] MAY 0>5[4] JUN 0>5[2] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>3[5]
WN LAS-PDX MAR 3>2.0[3] APR 1.4>2[4] MAY 0>2[4] JUN 0>2[3] JUL 0>2[3] AUG 0>1.2[3]
WN OAK-PDX MAR 4>3[4] APR 1.7>4[6] JUN 0>5[3] JUL 0>5[3] AUG 0>2[4]
WN PDX-PHX MAR 3>2[3] APR 1.5>3[4] JUN 0>3[0.2] JUL 0>3[0.1] AUG 0>1.7[3]
WN PDX-SAN MAR 0>0.4[0.9] APR 0>0.2[0.5]
WN PDX-SJC FEB 1.5>1.0[5] MAR 4>2[5] APR 1.8>3[5] MAY 0>4[5] JUN 0>4[1.6] JUL 0>4[1.9] AUG 0>1.9[3]
WN PDX-SMF MAR 4>1.9[4] APR 1.6>3[5] JUN 0>4[2] JUL 0>4[2] AUG 0>2[3]
WN PDX-STL MAR 0.6>0[0.9] APR 0.4>0.6[1.0] AUG 0>0.5[1.0]


AS737MAX, great question & the short answer is, this is an entirely new route. All of AA's original flights to EUG c 1983-1986 was via PDX, both 727-100/200's & then quickly went to the MD-80's. I just added it to the comprehensive list I published a few times here. The E-175 is perfect for the route & I hope AA starts seasonal RDM-DFW when traffic increases, the SEA flights are fuller lately & it looks like they are going to reduce their QX flights RDM-PDX to 1 daily, according to the OAG thread. Has 4B made that big of an impact on traffic? I still see zero advertising for 4B in Redmond or Bend.


That's what I thought but knew you would know the answer - thanks! Hopefully it sticks (seems like UA to ORD has done well) because for so long EUG/PHX/RDM have seen little more than CA/PHX/DEN.

Still surprised that AS hasn't made more of a public effort to work with 4B, especially with the EUG flight that ended before it began. No doubt there's very little traffic in the PDX-EUG direction but perhaps joining oneworld has made it difficult.
 
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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2020

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