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Kilgen wrote:II have a feeling that even that date cannot be kept by the AAC and that they will extend yet again. On the other hand, Costa Rica confirmed that they're sticking to August 1st for the reopening to scheduled passenger traffic of SJO and LIR. It almost feels like Costa Rica has the virus better unter control than Panama, and I am the first one who criticises Costa Rica for its management of the virus.Due to the change of the Panamanian Government to extend the closure of the airport to Aug 22, Copa has extended their start up date to Sept. 4. https://www.copaair.com/en/web/us/coronavirus-updates
LTU932 wrote:how they're going to make flights to Europe work if Costa Rica isn't yet an authorised destination for the EU? I mean, if IB does come immediately after the reopening, how is it going to work.
SJOtoLIR wrote:What about dual-nationals? As a German citizen, I am also an EU citizen, so I'd have to use my German PNR to book the flight and probably show the immigration officer at SJO both my Costa Rican and German passport I guess (or at least the cédula and the German passport), and both ways? In Europe, I do know that I can only use my German papers anyway, because when I travel to Europe, I'm only a German citizen for the EU passport control people. I do not intend to flying back to the EU anytime soon, but I do wonder how us dual-nationals would have to handle things from here-on out.Costa Rican citizens are banned for entering now into the EU and probably it will be for many weeks forward, given the huge amount of daily contagious for the time being. My interpretation is that IB MAD-SJO would be welcomed at SJO from August, but no one from Costa Rica is allowed to board the flight heading back to Spain. Bad deal for the airline.
LTU932 wrote:SJOtoLIR wrote:What about dual-nationals? As a German citizen, I am also an EU citizen, so I'd have to use my German PNR to book the flight and probably show the immigration officer at SJO both my Costa Rican and German passport I guess (or at least the cédula and the German passport), and both ways? In Europe, I do know that I can only use my German papers anyway, because when I travel to Europe, I'm only a German citizen for the EU passport control people. I do not intend to flying back to the EU anytime soon, but I do wonder how us dual-nationals would have to handle things from here-on out.Costa Rican citizens are banned for entering now into the EU and probably it will be for many weeks forward, given the huge amount of daily contagious for the time being. My interpretation is that IB MAD-SJO would be welcomed at SJO from August, but no one from Costa Rica is allowed to board the flight heading back to Spain. Bad deal for the airline.
Avianca wrote:I feel ya. In my opinion, there is a lot of mismanagement down here, and the government has only known confinement as a solution. Only positive: We don't have the same draconian measures Panama has, where your freedom of movement is limited I believe by day, by gender and by ID number, with a total confinement on Sundays. Don't know if the former is still applying, but I know they still have total confinement every Sunday.I am a German living as resident in Costa Rica - as per my understanding I am not allowed to leave the country as I would loose my residence. Sorry to say but what a poor managemnt of the goverement here, it makes no sense, why I am not allowed to leave to germany as German, but at the same time germans living not in Costa Rica are allowed to come...
Kilgen wrote:The Panamanian government has authorized on July 31 a limited opening at PTY
En el marco de esta medida, Copa Airlines tiene programado inicialmente operar vuelos los días 14 y 15, 21 y 22 y 28 y 29 de agosto, a Miami y Nueva York en EE.UU.; México; San José, Costa Rica; La Habana, Cuba; Santo Domingo, República Dominicana; Quito y Guayaquil, en Ecuador; Sao Paulo, Brasil: y Santiago de Chile.
SJOtoLIR wrote:Since the UK is no longer in the EU, they can decide for themselves if they'll allow Costa Rica on the list or not unless they still follow the lead of some EU decisions post-Brexit. Either way, I also do not understand how IB wants to make flights to SJO work despite the EU ban. But apart from your hypothesis, I have another one that may be of importance: belly cargo. What if there's a loophole, where they could take advantage of the low capacity they're formally allowed to carry given the ban, while taking advantage and filling the belly to the brim with cargo, medical supplies, mail and trade goods.I cannot understand for sure, how are these flights being programmed if the European Union banned their commercial operations heading to America, besides Uruguay ? My own explanation is that these flights would come with stranded Costa Rican residents and returning empty or loaded with Europeans exclusively.
I put some links on this board since May, about the chance of both IB and LH in Costa Rica again. They were asking desperately for it.
On the other hand, I haven't read nothing about either income flights at LIR or scheduled operations from Canada and the United Kingdom.
LTU932 wrote:how IB wants to make flights to SJO work despite the EU ban.
SJOtoLIR wrote:I'm surprised there will be so many people at once on the aircraft, given how the media and governments scream for social distancing, etc. However, given how hot it is right now, I don't know if a jam packed aircraft with decent cargo in the belly would work, given the issues with single-engine performance out of SJO when departing RW 07, and even KL having to regularly make fuel stops before making their flight a triangular flight via LIR.I guess the Airbus 350 would be still programmed as pointing out in June.
The belly cargo hypothesis makes no sense, given the amount of travelers on IB MAD-SJO. Practically, a fully packed plane !
Perhaps the eastbound flight would return to Spain loading a sizeable component of cargo.
SJOtoLIR wrote:LTU932 wrote:how IB wants to make flights to SJO work despite the EU ban.
Reading La Nacion - August 02nd, IB MAD-SJO will transport 250 passengers on August 03rd, being the first scheduled flight since the airport was opened again.
I guess the Airbus 350 would be still programmed as pointing out in June.
The belly cargo hypothesis makes no sense, given the amount of travelers on IB MAD-SJO. Practically, a fully packed plane !
Perhaps the eastbound flight would return to Spain loading a sizeable component of cargo.
Anyways, I will follow it carefully and ready to post further details.
Regards.
Avianca wrote:I dunno. Usually that juicy and tasty Ananas is actually transported by sea.for sure the eastbound will be fully with fresh and juicy Tico Pineapple!
LTU932 wrote:Avianca wrote:I dunno. Usually that juicy and tasty Ananas is actually transported by sea.for sure the eastbound will be fully with fresh and juicy Tico Pineapple!
Kilgen wrote:I wonder how many stops those CM E190 will need in order to fly to Australia (BNE?).According to ch-aviation, CM has sold all its E190, spare engines and spare parts to Australia's Alliance Airlines:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... o-19-e190s
2travel2know2 wrote:Kilgen wrote:I wonder how many stops those CM E190 will need in order to fly to Australia (BNE?).According to ch-aviation, CM has sold all its E190, spare engines and spare parts to Australia's Alliance Airlines:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... o-19-e190s
So basically, to retain your immigration status, you can only enter and exit the country via LIR or SJO. Those who have their immigration status being processed, can only re-enter the country as a tourist and from the currently authorised regions/countries (which are the Schengen area, the UK and Canada). With that being said, citizens and legal residents still have to quarantine upon arrival.*Para el caso de las personas extranjeras* que cuenten con Residencia Permanente, Residencia Temporal, Categorías Especiales o Estancia, podrán ingresar únicamente por vía aérea de los países autorizados por el Ministerio de Salud, y deberán presentar el formulario Pase de Salud, así como el documento de identificación migratorio para personas extranjeras vigente (DIMEX) y el comprobante de pago del aseguramiento al día a la Caja Costarricense del Seguro Social. Además, deberán acatar la orden sanitaria de aislamiento.
Quienes se encuentren en proceso de trámite migratorio no podrán ingresar al país a no ser que cumplan los requisitos de ingreso de una persona turista. Asimismo, la persona con categoría migratoria quien al salir del país se le impuso un impedimento de ingreso, no podrá entrar si no proviene desde países autorizados, con los requisitos indicados.
Avianca wrote:for sure the eastbound will be fully with fresh and juicy Tico Pineapple!
SJOtoLIR wrote:Avianca wrote:for sure the eastbound will be fully with fresh and juicy Tico Pineapple!
Local newspapers have actually mentioned the pineapple cargo on IB MAD-SJO heading to Europe.
IB MAD-SJO 2x weekly is switching passengers and cargo, in both ways.
Cargo has been properly transported among their empty seats. They didn't state about any belly load, in such flights.
Speaking about San Jose, LH FRA-SJO is also working and some isolated repatriation flights operated by UA IAH-SJO.
The US airlines are asking again and again for the resumption of their regular operations in Costa Rica.
B6 [JFK/FLL/MCO]-SJO might resume on September 01st.
American Airlines is planning some rescue flights from August 20th and scheduled ones from September 09th.
On August 10th, UA IAD-SAL flew to El Salvador as repatriation flight.
Regards.
SJOtoLIR wrote:The government is allowing tourists from two states to come, where the death rate has been the highest???Costa Rica to allow US tourists from September 01st and coming from those states where the Covid-19 disease is under control: New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine and Connecticut.
LTU932 wrote:The government is allowing tourists from two states to come, where the death rate has been the highest???
SJOtoLIR wrote:Honestly, they should've allowed MIA, PHX and DFW first. Reopening EWR at this time is somehow assinine. Even if they'd allow inbound tourists to EWR, especially New York City, you'd spend an entire two weeks under mandatory quarantine, pay a 10,000 Dollar fine if you tried to sneak away and get caught in one of NYC's COVID road checkpoints, and it will basically kill tourism into a city that also lives from it. And I have not heard that NYC would be reducing their requirements in case of a complete reopening of international flights. And those who are merely connecting in EWR but come from states that are on the NY/NJ list of states that must quarantine for 14 days will not wait 14 days just to catch their connections. This is going to backfire on SJO and LIR.LTU932 wrote:The government is allowing tourists from two states to come, where the death rate has been the highest???
Not at this time.
New York and New Jersey were extremely hit by the coronavirus in March and April.
The US crisis is now basically focused in California, Florida and Texas, among the largest states in terms of their inhabitants.
Having said that, we may see UA EWR-SJO and UA EWR-LIR in September. American Airlines and jetBlue also supplied regular flights to Costa Rica from this geographical area.
Regards.
LTU932 wrote:SJOtoLIR wrote:Honestly, they should've allowed MIA, PHX and DFW first. Reopening EWR at this time is somehow assinine. Even if they'd allow inbound tourists to EWR, especially New York City, you'd spend an entire two weeks under mandatory quarantine, pay a 10,000 Dollar fine if you tried to sneak away and get caught in one of NYC's COVID road checkpoints, and it will basically kill tourism into a city that also lives from it. And I have not heard that NYC would be reducing their requirements in case of a complete reopening of international flights. And those who are merely connecting in EWR but come from states that are on the NY/NJ list of states that must quarantine for 14 days will not wait 14 days just to catch their connections. This is going to backfire on SJO and LIR.LTU932 wrote:The government is allowing tourists from two states to come, where the death rate has been the highest???
Not at this time.
New York and New Jersey were extremely hit by the coronavirus in March and April.
The US crisis is now basically focused in California, Florida and Texas, among the largest states in terms of their inhabitants.
Having said that, we may see UA EWR-SJO and UA EWR-LIR in September. American Airlines and jetBlue also supplied regular flights to Costa Rica from this geographical area.
Regards.