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Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:10 pm

Please discuss here about news and developments in Southern African Community (Minus Tanzania – as part of the E.A.C) and Indian Ocean islands of La Réunion and Mayotte.

ANGOLA
BOTSWANA
COMOROS
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO
ESWATINI
LESOTHO
MADAGASCAR
MALAWI
MAURITIUS
MOZAMBIQUE
NAMIBIA
SEYCHELLES
SOUTH AFRICA
ZAMBIA
ZIMBABWE

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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:35 pm

There are some rumors that the new TAAG destination for 2020 would be ACC. Probably combined with the new LOS service.
 
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:40 pm

MK had to shut down ops for a few days:
https://atcnews.org/2019/12/30/mauritiu ... pproaches/

Hope that codeshares were suggested!
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:44 pm

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There are some rumors that the new TAAG destination for 2020 would be ACC. Probably combined with the new LOS service.

It would be an interstering addition since West Africa can be reached via ways - non stop (1 one stop) or direct!
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:15 am

eastafspot wrote:
MK had to shut down ops for a few days:
https://atcnews.org/2019/12/30/mauritiu ... pproaches/

Hope that codeshares were suggested!

Flights to Reunion and Rodrigues were those mainly affected at start but on the 30th all flights were cancelled due to the airport being closed. MK rescheduled the cancelled flights on the 31st after the airport reopened at noon, with MRU being extremely crowded and busy with multiple cancelled flights being rescheduled in a day (all flights being almost full during this peak season). MRU saw 4 EK A380 flights in a day, 2 AF, BA, SA and TK flights and MK flights rescheduled.
 
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:42 am

any news on the future of Air Namibia? will they continue serving WDH-FRA with their A330's? They have been making a loss for so many years and there have been news that the airline will only serve domestic routes.
Now that there are quite few new options like qatar, eurowings and klm, may be there is no need afterall? I have used them in the past and never had problems but I also now so many people who suffered cancellations or massive delays.
For my next trip to wdh, i have chosen qatar, just to be on the safe side, but on the other hand I hope they will find a way to continue, or at least stay reliable.
 
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:48 am

Has SAA published the schedule for A350? Have they started the training flights yet?
 
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:53 am

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Has SAA published the schedule for A350? Have they started the training flights yet?


They have stopped training flights to DUR and are currently flying commercially between JNB-CPT.
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:06 am

Let's hope 2020 will be a much better year for the carriers of this region, as it seems almost every national airline of these countries and some other airlines had some issues, mostly due to financial problems and/or mismanagement:

SAA being the obvious big one standing out, Air Namibia with continuous problems,
Air Botswana struggling to get the E170 going and continuous uncertainty,
Air Zimbabwe...well...,
LAM is up and down with fleet changes (now re-introducing Dash8-400),
Air Mauritius seems uncertain about their A350 future,
Comair having had quite a difficult year with lots of boardroom changes,
CemAir having been grounded almost all year, only resuming in November
SA Express...it just needs to stop
FastJet closing Mozambique operations and liquidity remains a problem in Zim
The Zambian operations in partnership with ET not getting off the ground
Malawian continues as is, however the Blantyre runway works still not finished

Maybe a few that looks to be on the upturn or stabilizing at least...i might be under the wrong impression...:
TAAG expanding network and talk of new aircraft (mostly smaller) to right-size more for different markets ?
Air Madagascar turning things around
Air Seychelles receiving the A320neo and route restructuring paying off
Airlink inducted all E170/E190s, replacing the AvroRJs...maybe more is needed, continue to expand
FlySafair remains quite robust in growth and expansion, a model that seems to work well
Westair of Namibia finally getting approval for scheduled services

What do we expect in 2020?
Will there be a big change in South Africa...SAA to close, or getting much smaller...will SA Express be allowed to continue another year...will FastJet launch SA operations as planned...?
Will ET finally set up something significant in the region...either Zambia or Zimbabwe, or ET Mozambique allowed to expand regionally...or will Malawian be used more like Asky (or is the region too protective to allow a similar model...like in West Africa where Asky operates several 1 or 2-stop operations)

Btw...the thread's name should probably be changed to "Southern Africa & IO..." and not "South African..."
 
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:31 pm

grjplanes wrote:
Let's hope 2020 will be a much better year for the carriers of this region, as it seems almost every national airline of these countries and some other airlines had some issues, mostly due to financial problems and/or mismanagement:

SAA being the obvious big one standing out, Air Namibia with continuous problems,
Air Botswana struggling to get the E170 going and continuous uncertainty,
Air Zimbabwe...well...,
LAM is up and down with fleet changes (now re-introducing Dash8-400),
Air Mauritius seems uncertain about their A350 future,
Comair having had quite a difficult year with lots of boardroom changes,
CemAir having been grounded almost all year, only resuming in November
SA Express...it just needs to stop
FastJet closing Mozambique operations and liquidity remains a problem in Zim
The Zambian operations in partnership with ET not getting off the ground
Malawian continues as is, however the Blantyre runway works still not finished

Maybe a few that looks to be on the upturn or stabilizing at least...i might be under the wrong impression...:
TAAG expanding network and talk of new aircraft (mostly smaller) to right-size more for different markets ?
Air Madagascar turning things around
Air Seychelles receiving the A320neo and route restructuring paying off
Airlink inducted all E170/E190s, replacing the AvroRJs...maybe more is needed, continue to expand
FlySafair remains quite robust in growth and expansion, a model that seems to work well
Westair of Namibia finally getting approval for scheduled services

What do we expect in 2020?
Will there be a big change in South Africa...SAA to close, or getting much smaller...will SA Express be allowed to continue another year...will FastJet launch SA operations as planned...?
Will ET finally set up something significant in the region...either Zambia or Zimbabwe, or ET Mozambique allowed to expand regionally...or will Malawian be used more like Asky (or is the region too protective to allow a similar model...like in West Africa where Asky operates several 1 or 2-stop operations)

Btw...the thread's name should probably be changed to "Southern Africa & IO..." and not "South African..."


Thread title has been updated accordingly.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:33 am

Main runway at Chileka Airport in Blantyre, Malawi (BLZ) has apparently re-opened after several months of delays and Malawian Airlines has re-opened its B737 service to JNB (LLW-BLZ-JNB).

Malawi Airlines is pleased to announce resumption of Boeing operations into Blantyre effective 2nd January, 2020 following reopening of Chileka International Airport main runway which was closed for maintenance since April 24 2019.

https://www.malawian-airlines.com/announcements
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:11 pm

bmagee wrote:
Main runway at Chileka Airport in Blantyre, Malawi (BLZ) has apparently re-opened after several months of delays and Malawian Airlines has re-opened its B737 service to JNB (LLW-BLZ-JNB).

Malawi Airlines is pleased to announce resumption of Boeing operations into Blantyre effective 2nd January, 2020 following reopening of Chileka International Airport main runway which was closed for maintenance since April 24 2019.

https://www.malawian-airlines.com/announcements


Thank you as it's a very important news for myself :smile:
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:15 pm

grjplanes wrote:
Let's hope 2020 will be a much better year for the carriers of this region, as it seems almost every national airline of these countries and some other airlines had some issues, mostly due to financial problems and/or mismanagement:

SAA being the obvious big one standing out, Air Namibia with continuous problems,
Air Botswana struggling to get the E170 going and continuous uncertainty,
Air Zimbabwe...well...,
LAM is up and down with fleet changes (now re-introducing Dash8-400),
Air Mauritius seems uncertain about their A350 future,
Comair having had quite a difficult year with lots of boardroom changes,
CemAir having been grounded almost all year, only resuming in November
SA Express...it just needs to stop
FastJet closing Mozambique operations and liquidity remains a problem in Zim
The Zambian operations in partnership with ET not getting off the ground
Malawian continues as is, however the Blantyre runway works still not finished

Maybe a few that looks to be on the upturn or stabilizing at least...i might be under the wrong impression...:
TAAG expanding network and talk of new aircraft (mostly smaller) to right-size more for different markets ?
Air Madagascar turning things around
Air Seychelles receiving the A320neo and route restructuring paying off
Airlink inducted all E170/E190s, replacing the AvroRJs...maybe more is needed, continue to expand
FlySafair remains quite robust in growth and expansion, a model that seems to work well
Westair of Namibia finally getting approval for scheduled services

What do we expect in 2020?
Will there be a big change in South Africa...SAA to close, or getting much smaller...will SA Express be allowed to continue another year...will FastJet launch SA operations as planned...?
Will ET finally set up something significant in the region...either Zambia or Zimbabwe, or ET Mozambique allowed to expand regionally...or will Malawian be used more like Asky (or is the region too protective to allow a similar model...like in West Africa where Asky operates several 1 or 2-stop operations)

Btw...the thread's name should probably be changed to "Southern Africa & IO..." and not "South African..."


Impressive summary that shows you have a great interest in African Aviation :o - hopefully many A.net members will have the pleasure to read more contributions from you !
Sad to see some airlines like UM, SAA or Air Namibia facing hard times! If collapsing, the problem with private investors might reside in focusing on local flights only and eventually some busy domestic routes! Regional network with cross border people/business travellers could be left over with insane fares or terrible detours! :scratchchin:
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:38 pm

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eastafspot wrote:
MK had to shut down ops for a few days:
https://atcnews.org/2019/12/30/mauritiu ... pproaches/

Hope that codeshares were suggested!

Flights to Reunion and Rodrigues were those mainly affected at start but on the 30th all flights were cancelled due to the airport being closed. MK rescheduled the cancelled flights on the 31st after the airport reopened at noon, with MRU being extremely crowded and busy with multiple cancelled flights being rescheduled in a day (all flights being almost full during this peak season). MRU saw 4 EK A380 flights in a day, 2 AF, BA, SA and TK flights and MK flights rescheduled.


Thanks a ton 3BNBE for these precious infos, dare I say, as usual :smile:
Jeez... it must have been a nightmare to deal with!
Since December is a high season for travels in/from Europe - to warmer places, how can Mauritian Government prevent this from happening or MK entices pax to extend their stay during the cyclones season?
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:43 pm

Some news:

:arrow: Africa’s most on-time airline revealed:

Low-cost carrier Safair was named as the airline with best OTP score in Africa and the Middle-East. Replacing Mango - another SA carrier!

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifesty ... -revealed/
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:43 am

eastafspot wrote:

Thanks a ton 3BNBE for these precious infos, dare I say, as usual :smile:
Jeez... it must have been a nightmare to deal with!
Since December is a high season for travels in/from Europe - to warmer places, how can Mauritian Government prevent this from happening or MK entices pax to extend their stay during the cyclones season?


Pleasure is mine
Since it's a natural hazard, something which is out of control, the government can't do much, except ensuring the safety of each and every individual. The airport is closed and flights are cancelled when a class 3 warning (+120 km/h gusts expected within 6 hours) is in force, mainly for the security of passengers and workers. Well before, passengers were already advised to not go to the airport unless their flights were confirmed, though finding accommodation during the peak period is a hefty task, since almost all hotels are fully booked. Air Mauritius highlighted that in those conditions, it may not be able to transfer passengers to hotels due to lack of transport services and fully booked hotels, though it catered for ALL passengers who were stuck at the airport, irrespective of the airline they were travelling with, in terms of food. Refugee centres are also opened across the island during a cyclone, and this remains an option for those not having found an accommodation.
 
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Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:00 am

Today's Namibian Sun newspaper is reporting that only one out of Air Namibia's eleven (11) routes is profitable. Which one it is, is not identified.

It reports that the airline is desperate to drop the Windhoek-Frankfurt route but that it cannot get out of the leases for two A330-200s till 2025.

https://www.namibiansun.com/
 
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Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:30 pm

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Air Mauritius highlighted that in those conditions, it may not be able to transfer passengers to hotels due to lack of transport services and fully booked hotels, though it catered for ALL passengers who were stuck at the airport, irrespective of the airline they were travelling with, in terms of food. Refugee centres are also opened across the island during a cyclone, and this remains an option for those not having found an accommodation.

Wow!
Mauritius + MK are taking a great care of every visitor - a first in Africa!
With all the developments made by your country in the last 10 years (especially at the Doing Business ranking), citizens all deserve to hold the 2nd most powerful passport in Africa...
What are MK priorities before the end of this year? a larger fleet ( or order)? More routes maybe? Or less international presence but more profitability for S/h + employees?
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Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:51 pm

PM wrote:
Today's Namibian Sun newspaper is reporting that only one out of Air Namibia's eleven (11) routes is profitable. Which one it is, is not identified.

It reports that the airline is desperate to drop the Windhoek-Frankfurt route but that it cannot get out of the leases for two A330-200s till 2025.

https://www.namibiansun.com/


I'm sorry for being late at reading it but the link does not show up! Can you provide - if possible - another link?
Sad news after the usd 40 millions bail out from the government earlier this year!

Also, what about the recent Air Namibia "new customer approach" changing it's onboard food offering in economy class for a low cost like airline????
I like the fact it was motivated by :roll: :

"This change is necessitated by the need for the airline taking a different approach to ensure that product, service levels, and related economics of the value chain are matched."


How do you deal with your important clients willing to fly locally with so many grim clouds?
In the past, soft product made them competitive against SAA, but now...
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:25 am

SQ22 wrote:
grjplanes wrote:
Btw...the thread's name should probably be changed to "Southern Africa & IO..." and not "South African..."

Thread title has been updated accordingly.


Again, thanks a ton SQ22 for the correction! :smile:

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:arrow: Has anyone else read this Uganda Airlines news posted on social media yesterday?

https://www.facebook.com/ugandairlines/ ... =3&theater

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Currently SAA operates an E90 Airlink aircraft JNB to EBB, but can the UR CRJ900 ply the route nonstop?

If possible, hope it will last longer than the short-lived Air Tanzania flight DAR-JNB last year (July - November 2019 so 5 months) :pray:
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:47 am

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They have stopped training flights to DUR and are currently flying commercially between JNB-CPT.


It was listed as flight SA307 a few days ago. I booked and was disappointed to find equipment changed to A332.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:06 am

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Williamsb747 wrote:
They have stopped training flights to DUR and are currently flying commercially between JNB-CPT.


It was listed as flight SA307 a few days ago. I booked and was disappointed to find equipment changed to A332.


Only ZS-SDC is flying. It had a weather radar failure and got stuck in CPT on the 6th. It’s currently flying twice a day JNB-CPT-JNB.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:20 am

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Only ZS-SDC is flying. It had a weather radar failure and got stuck in CPT on the 6th. It’s currently flying twice a day JNB-CPT-JNB.


Just my shoddy luck, my flight was on the 7th.
 
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PM wrote:
Today's Namibian Sun newspaper is reporting that only one out of Air Namibia's eleven (11) routes is profitable. Which one it is, is not identified.

It reports that the airline is desperate to drop the Windhoek-Frankfurt route but that it cannot get out of the leases for two A330-200s till 2025.

https://www.namibiansun.com/


I'm sorry for being late at reading it but the link does not show up! Can you provide - if possible - another link?


The link still works (for me) but the article has gone. It didn't say much more than I reported. The government have underwritten a loan (from an unnamed bank) for around US$40M but are at pains to say they are not bailing out the airline. The cabinet should decide within the next ten weeks or so whether to pump more money into Air Namibia or let it sink or swim on its own.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:59 pm

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Wow!
Mauritius + MK are taking a great care of every visitor - a first in Africa!
With all the developments made by your country in the last 10 years (especially at the Doing Business ranking), citizens all deserve to hold the 2nd most powerful passport in Africa...
What are MK priorities before the end of this year? a larger fleet ( or order)? More routes maybe? Or less international presence but more profitability for S/h + employees?

For this year, MK will implement its plan (elaborated with the help of PwC and CAPA) in order to return to profitability in the long run. In the short run, the main priority will be to reach equilibrium, and in 2020, Air Mauritius may not expand but rather focus on existing destinations. Expansion will only occur in the long run, around 2023 when the 2 A350s leased to SA will be returned and 2 new A350s will be delivered.
Also, Air Mauritius stated that its medium-haul aircraft order (to replace the 2 A319s and 3 ATR 72-500s) would have been placed in December 2019, but nothing has been disclosed till date.
IMHO, the A319neo or A220-100 would have been a great choice given their long range and lower capacity, enabling MK to operate those aircrafts to CPT, MAA and BLR to increase frequencies and also to replace the ATR 72 fleet which is used mostly to serve Rodrigues (which currently has a runway too short for larger aircrafts, but is currently being extended to welcome aircrafts such as the A321neo).
 
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 am

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seat64k wrote:
Williamsb747 wrote:
They have stopped training flights to DUR and are currently flying commercially between JNB-CPT.


It was listed as flight SA307 a few days ago. I booked and was disappointed to find equipment changed to A332.


Only ZS-SDC is flying.


ZS-SDD is currently flying from JNB-CPT as SA317.
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Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:30 am

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trees wrote:
seat64k wrote:

It was listed as flight SA307 a few days ago. I booked and was disappointed to find equipment changed to A332.


Only ZS-SDC is flying.


ZS-SDD is currently flying from JNB-CPT as SA317.


As of today, the rest were added to the AOC and are now flying. ;)
 
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:14 pm

That's great to hear! Hopefully SAA is still a operational next time I visit.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:05 pm

Question about the SAA fleet, for those who know. According these:

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/S ... an-Airways
https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Sou ... irways.htm

SAA still has two 737-300s in the fleet. Is this accurate? If so, are they actually being used? Where? Or are they in storage somewhere?
 
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seat64k wrote:
Question about the SAA fleet, for those who know. According these:

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/S ... an-Airways
https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Sou ... irways.htm

SAA still has two 737-300s in the fleet. Is this accurate? If so, are they actually being used? Where? Or are they in storage somewhere?


It appears they operate 737-300 as freighters.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:58 pm

Things are moving quickly now with the SAA saga, I guess we'll find out more concretely in the next few weeks. As I understand, the first month of Business Rescue has passed, thus certain decisions had to be taken already...although several reports are conflicting, so nothing is all that clear. The R2 billion loan did or did not come through (some info suggest government didn't, while others suggest it came from other lenders)...just to keep operating through this process.
- We know already about the 9 A340s being put up for sale together with spare engines...not sure if these aircraft are all still operating, or have been pulled from use already
- JNB-MUC seems to be cancelled with immediate effect from tonight...for this week at least
- Partner and franchisee airline, Airlink, will be ending the partnership and become fully independent again from June...basically the largest airline fleet-wise in the region.
https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Industr ... e-20200116
- The other state-owned carrier and partner SA Express might also be put under Business Rescue soon, due to some applications from creditors

I'm wondering what the future holds for the A319s, are they still worth something to sell...perhaps if they can get rid of them and just have the 10 A320s for short-haul. Not sure if it's beneficial for Mango to take over the A319s...too small to operate a dual-fleet?

- In the meantime JNB-JFK is scheduled with A350-900 tonight, not sure if it's now finalized for daily, or this just a one-off for now until they actually enter service internationally.
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:59 pm

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SAA still has two 737-300s in the fleet. Is this accurate? If so, are they actually being used? Where? Or are they in storage somewhere?


Yes, they are freighters that operate overnight domestic routes, and daytime regional. You can see them regularly in MPM, LUN, NBO, EBB, LLW, FIH, HRE, BLZ, DAR and WDH regionally, and JNB, CPT, DUR and PLZ domestically. They charter some other B737 freighters too as needed.
 
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:08 pm

3BNBE wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
Wow!
Mauritius + MK are taking a great care of every visitor - a first in Africa!
With all the developments made by your country in the last 10 years (especially at the Doing Business ranking), citizens all deserve to hold the 2nd most powerful passport in Africa...
What are MK priorities before the end of this year? a larger fleet ( or order)? More routes maybe? Or less international presence but more profitability for S/h + employees?

For this year, MK will implement its plan (elaborated with the help of PwC and CAPA) in order to return to profitability in the long run. In the short run, the main priority will be to reach equilibrium, and in 2020, Air Mauritius may not expand but rather focus on existing destinations. Expansion will only occur in the long run, around 2023 when the 2 A350s leased to SA will be returned and 2 new A350s will be delivered.

Are you saying CAPA assisted with the plan?!? If so, may God help them... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to beef up existing destinations as the infrastructure is already in place, rather than opening up new stations...
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:11 pm

vhqpa wrote:
It appears they operate 737-300 as freighters.


Interesting, thanks! I had no idea there as a 737 freighter variant.

grjplanes wrote:
The R2 billion loan did or did not come through (some info suggest government didn't, while others suggest it came from other lenders)


My understanding is that the private lenders agreed to put up R2b on condition that the government put up a further R2b and guarantee the loand. Private sector came through, government apparently doesn't have the cash.

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We know already about the 9 A340s being put up for sale together with spare engines...not sure if these aircraft are all still operating, or have been pulled from use already


Are these all A346? They have 9 but I though the ones they're selling is a mix of A343 and A346. They're using the A346 on FRA too and I haven't seen anything about other new aircraft coming in (more new A330s?).
 
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Re: South African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:42 pm

3BNBE wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
Wow!
Mauritius + MK are taking a great care of every visitor - a first in Africa!
With all the developments made by your country in the last 10 years (especially at the Doing Business ranking), citizens all deserve to hold the 2nd most powerful passport in Africa...
What are MK priorities before the end of this year? a larger fleet ( or order)? More routes maybe? Or less international presence but more profitability for S/h + employees?

For this year, MK will implement its plan (elaborated with the help of PwC and CAPA) in order to return to profitability in the long run. In the short run, the main priority will be to reach equilibrium, and in 2020, Air Mauritius may not expand but rather focus on existing destinations. Expansion will only occur in the long run, around 2023 when the 2 A350s leased to SA will be returned and 2 new A350s will be delivered.
Also, Air Mauritius stated that its medium-haul aircraft order (to replace the 2 A319s and 3 ATR 72-500s) would have been placed in December 2019, but nothing has been disclosed till date.
IMHO, the A319neo or A220-100 would have been a great choice given their long range and lower capacity, enabling MK to operate those aircrafts to CPT, MAA and BLR to increase frequencies and also to replace the ATR 72 fleet which is used mostly to serve Rodrigues (which currently has a runway too short for larger aircrafts, but is currently being extended to welcome aircrafts such as the A321neo).

The last thing I read was the Embraer e195-e2 was apparently the faviouite to win the deal for the A319 replacement. Possibly throwing out a rumour to the press as a negotiation tactic to get a cheaper deal from Airbus? Also, regarding the last two A350's there is talk about replacing the order with another A330neo and an A320neo. All speculation in the press for the moment though.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:26 pm

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- Partner and franchisee airline, Airlink, will be ending the partnership and become fully independent again from June...basically the largest airline fleet-wise in the region.
https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Industr ... e-20200116
- The other state-owned carrier and partner SA Express might also be put under Business Rescue soon, due to some applications from creditors


Now this is interesting. Will SA have a new competitor within Airlink now? And if so, what all can Airlink do? What is its financial backing?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:55 am

Just checked flightaware and saw A350 on the JNB to JFK sector... is this the first flight to JFK.

Cueious if any feedback
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:49 am

NYKiwi wrote:
Just checked flightaware and saw A350 on the JNB to JFK sector... is this the first flight to JFK.

Cueious if any feedback


I believe so, it is ZS-SDD on it's way
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:20 pm

Flying for the VERY first time in one of the World Best First Class airlines:

Air France in its Private Suite * :smile: *

Does anyone know if JNB provides a intl lounge for flights leaving before at 9 am? And if premium services are 1) available at this time and then 2) offered for (free) to European airlines like LY, AF, LH, BA, or LX?


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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:45 pm

eastafspot wrote:
Flying for the VERY first time in one of the World Best First Class airlines:

Air France in its Private Suite * :smile: *

Does anyone know if JNB provides a intl lounge for flights leaving before at 9 am? And if premium services are 1) available at this time and then 2) offered for (free) to European airlines like LY, AF, LH, BA, or LX?


The new scheduled booking - Changed for free by excellent Air France CS
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I think you should plant a tree. I like that option.

Also 4 checked luggage? That's a dream for an African traveler.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:56 pm

 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:01 pm

eastafspot wrote:
Flying for the VERY first time in one of the World Best First Class airlines:

Air France in its Private Suite * :smile: *

Does anyone know if JNB provides a intl lounge for flights leaving before at 9 am? And if premium services are 1) available at this time and then 2) offered for (free) to European airlines like LY, AF, LH, BA, or LX?


The new scheduled booking - Changed for free by excellent Air France CS
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Congrats!! Hope you enjoy it..

AF has its own lounge in JNB so I presume they would open it for the AF departure. All other airline lounges are usually closed (LH, BA and VS) in the mornings because they only depart late evening.

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:43 am

Virgin Atlantic launching flights to CPT from the 25th of OCT. Daily B789 operating.
https://www.virgin.com/news/virgin-atla ... -cape-town

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:48 am

I just happened to notice ET has added an extra rotation ADD-LLW on a 737-700 on Fridays/Sundays starting at the end of March - Leaving as part of the evening departures bank, and getting back into ADD as part of the morning arrivals rush. Impressive to see an extra rotation on a relatively small station that is already getting a daily wide-body
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:04 am

https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/british ... d-seattle/

British airways increasing spring service to CPT by 3 weekly flights. BA45 LHR-CPT 3 weekly flights B777 operating.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:20 am

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ntl-growth
I can’t access this because of the pay wall. Anyone know what’s going on here?
I presume international growth means Increasing ZNZ or maybe starting WDH?
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:51 am

Williamsb747 wrote:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/86672-south-africas-mango-to-focus-joburg-ops-eyes-intl-growth
I can’t access this because of the pay wall. Anyone know what’s going on here?
I presume international growth means Increasing ZNZ or maybe starting WDH?
Williams-


It does make some sense. With SAA plans to shrink its domestic and international network, there is an opportunity for Mango to expand in/enter these markets with a lower cost base.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:10 am

Williamsb747 wrote:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/86672-south-africas-mango-to-focus-joburg-ops-eyes-intl-growth
I can’t access this because of the pay wall. Anyone know what’s going on here?
I presume international growth means Increasing ZNZ or maybe starting WDH?
Williams-

But SAA will continue to serve WDH. Why would Mango come here too?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:26 am

Mango has applied for quite a few international rights over the last few weeks, probably taking over some from SAA.

They've applied for MRU, LVI and DAR on 7 February and MPM, LUN and LLW on 14 February. So some of this might be just in conjunction with SAA.

With Mango suspending all services from Lanseria airport, the weekly ZNZ service from there also moves over to JNB, thus increasing JNB-ZNZ from 3 to 4 weekly
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:41 pm

grjplanes wrote:

They've applied for MRU, LVI and DAR on 7 February and MPM, LUN and LLW on 14 February. So some of this might be just in conjunction with SAA.


If Mango starts MRU, Mauritius will be seeing a 'high' rise in the number of seats from South Africa. As from March, SA will be operating 5 of its 7 weekly flights to MRU with the A350 (the other 2 being operated by A340). Air Mauritius also stated that it will be increasing its flights to both JNB and CPT as from April. Currently, MK operates a daily flight to JNB (A350), 3-4 weekly flights to DUR (A319) and 2 weekly flights to CPT (A330).
Mango applied for 2 weekly JNB-MRU flights back in 2018 ( https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ntl-growth ) and Lanseria Airport was also in talks to get MK to fly there.

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