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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:07 pm

I presume this was just a thought, a passing comment perhaps, but would SEZ-PER work?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/res ... rth-route/

Minimal onward connections available, and for the island holiday market PER is absolutely tied to Bali (9 flights a day on the PER-DPS route), and Lombok to a lesser extent.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:01 am

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I presume this was just a thought, a passing comment perhaps, but would SEZ-PER work?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/res ... rth-route/

Minimal onward connections available, and for the island holiday market PER is absolutely tied to Bali (9 flights a day on the PER-DPS route), and Lombok to a lesser extent.

With the right codeshare agreement (VA/QF) more than possible that would work. And I’m sure there would be a few Australians who are a bit tired of DPS so a new destinations especially such a beautiful holiday island could work.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:52 am

myki wrote:
I presume this was just a thought, a passing comment perhaps, but would SEZ-PER work?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/res ... rth-route/

Minimal onward connections available, and for the island holiday market PER is absolutely tied to Bali (9 flights a day on the PER-DPS route), and Lombok to a lesser extent.


DPS and SEZ are not really the same and shouldn't be compared to one another. While there are 9 flights day on PER-DPS they are hardly going out anywhere near full. Those who are likely to go to SEZ are probably the ones that couldn't care less about DPS. SEZ would be similar to MRU however. VA currently codeshares with both SA and MK and offers onward connections from PER so imagine something similar for a PER-SEZ flight.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:15 am

VA currently codeshares with both SA and MK and offers onward connections from PER so imagine something similar for a PER-SEZ flight.


I imagine a well timed connection onwards to JNB and CPT would certainly pull in some market share and throwing a stopover in SEZ could attract leisure travellers to select this option when travel to SA. The size of the 321 will be ideal for the route and it would be great to see it come into fruition.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:46 pm

Air Namibia A330 operating for three month with just one winglet

Air Namibia A330 V5-ANO and a Korean B777 had a taxi accident in FRA on 16NOV19. Damaging one winglet of the A330.

Since that date the Air Namibia A330 has been operating without the left winglet in place. A coworker provided a pic of her with the left winglet missing. Pic taken today while she was resting in FRA.
Any thoughts?

What are the costs due to increased fuel consumption vs. the cost of repair?

Is there no insurance for such messes?
Thanks
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:49 pm

SA government to pay US 1 billion over the next three years to repay SAA debts.

https://www.flightglobal.com/strategy/g ... 43.article
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:21 am

ET B777 operating certain JNB services.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-27feb20/
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:59 pm

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SA government to pay US 1 billion over the next three years to repay SAA debts.

https://www.flightglobal.com/strategy/g ... 43.article


I enjoyed hearing the finance minister refer to SAA as our "Sword of Damocles"...
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:34 am

denklug wrote:
Air Namibia A330 operating for three month with just one winglet

Air Namibia A330 V5-ANO and a Korean B777 had a taxi accident in FRA on 16NOV19. Damaging one winglet of the A330.

Since that date the Air Namibia A330 has been operating without the left winglet in place. A coworker provided a pic of her with the left winglet missing. Pic taken today while she was resting in FRA.
Any thoughts?

What are the costs due to increased fuel consumption vs. the cost of repair?

Is there no insurance for such messes?
Thanks
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:36 am

denklug wrote:
Air Namibia A330 operating for three month with just one winglet

Air Namibia A330 V5-ANO and a Korean B777 had a taxi accident in FRA on 16NOV19. Damaging one winglet of the A330.

Since that date the Air Namibia A330 has been operating without the left winglet in place. A coworker provided a pic of her with the left winglet missing. Pic taken today while she was resting in FRA.
Any thoughts?

What are the costs due to increased fuel consumption vs. the cost of repair?

Is there no insurance for such messes?
Thanks
You'd think they'd buy a winglet from early built retired A330 or A340 if they don't have the money to order it straight from Airbus.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:58 am

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ET B777 operating certain JNB services.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-27feb20/

You never quite know what you're going to get with ET. We've had the 777-200LR on the Windhoek route.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:32 am

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What are the costs due to increased fuel consumption vs. the cost of repair?


I've been curious about this ever since this happened to an LH A346 a while back:

viewtopic.php?t=1345063

This was on or around 12 Oct 2016 (the date of the first post). The last post was me happening on the same aircraft towards the end of October, so clearly it's not a big enough difference for LH to take it out of service immediately to replace.

Given that SAA just sent a bunch of A340s for scrap, I'm surprised parts hasn't changed hands. Or maybe they're not compatible for some reason?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:20 am

AF to go 5 weekly for a short period to CPT NW20/21
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -increase/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:16 pm

seat64k wrote:
denklug wrote:
What are the costs due to increased fuel consumption vs. the cost of repair?


I've been curious about this ever since this happened to an LH A346 a while back:

viewtopic.php?t=1345063

This was on or around 12 Oct 2016 (the date of the first post). The last post was me happening on the same aircraft towards the end of October, so clearly it's not a big enough difference for LH to take it out of service immediately to replace.

Given that SAA just sent a bunch of A340s for scrap, I'm surprised parts hasn't changed hands. Or maybe they're not compatible for some reason?

Isn't the A340-200/300 compatible with the A330-200/300? They can sell parts to some of the A332/3 operators.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:31 pm

A must read! Its regarding the restructuring process of SAA.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... kes-shape/
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:36 pm

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A must read! Its regarding the restructuring process of SAA.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... kes-shape/


The 16 aircraft rumour has been floating around for a while. Unfortunately that article is not well researched and is full of misinformation. Sounds to me like this guy heard the same rumour and tried to write an article about it.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:51 am

trees wrote:
mr02 wrote:
A must read! Its regarding the restructuring process of SAA.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... kes-shape/


The 16 aircraft rumour has been floating around for a while. Unfortunately that article is not well researched and is full of misinformation. Sounds to me like this guy heard the same rumour and tried to write an article about it.


Indeed - I think he is misinformed or doesn't understand.

I didn't know an A320 is considered to be (a) aging at only 6 or 7 years of age, and (b) to be considered fuel-guzzling. Maybe he heard about the A340-600s. Who knows.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:33 am

SAA’s Covid19 route cuts. Frankfurt completely gone. Other international destinations cut quite a bit as well.

https://www.flysaa.com/documents/518551 ... be0349c9f5

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:20 am

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SAA’s Covid19 route cuts. Frankfurt completely gone. Other international destinations cut quite a bit as well.

https://www.flysaa.com/documents/518551 ... be0349c9f5


Just a point of clarification. This schedule is only until the end of March. The EU has implemented a 30 day travel ban for all non-EU nationals coming into the EU, with very limited exceptions. SAA is just complying with that. So I don't think Frankfurt is completely gone, but certainly for the next 30 days at least.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:27 am

evanb wrote:
Williamsb747 wrote:
SAA’s Covid19 route cuts. Frankfurt completely gone. Other international destinations cut quite a bit as well.

https://www.flysaa.com/documents/518551 ... be0349c9f5


Just a point of clarification. This schedule is only until the end of March. The EU has implemented a 30 day travel ban for all non-EU nationals coming into the EU, with very limited exceptions. SAA is just complying with that. So I don't think Frankfurt is completely gone, but certainly for the next 30 days at least.


Apologies for the miss wording of my post. I thought it was clear that it was for the Covid19 cuts not permanent route cuts for SAA.

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:52 pm

QR to RSA due to Covid19
DOH-JNB going to 1 daily from 3
DOH-JNB-DUR/GBE cancelled
DOH-CPT reduced to daily from 10 weekly
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-19mar20/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:31 am

JNB turning back foreign nationals from high risk zones.

https://www.enca.com/news/flight-high-r ... d-or-tambo

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:51 pm

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JNB turning back foreign nationals from high risk zones.

https://www.enca.com/news/flight-high-r ... d-or-tambo

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Make that all airports in RSA
https://twitter.com/capetownint/status/ ... 53858?s=21

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:22 pm

SAA cancelling ALL international flights until the end of may.

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:07 pm

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SAA cancelling ALL international flights until the end of may.

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom


It's not really making it clear regarding ALL international flights...just mentioning the intercontinental flights. Perhaps some flights to regional African destinations continue, where still possible, for now?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:43 pm

Per the SAA statement: "This decision means that SAA will only continue to render services on its domestic route between Johannesburg and Cape Town."
 
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:10 pm

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Per the SAA statement: "This decision means that SAA will only continue to render services on its domestic route between Johannesburg and Cape Town."


Yes, thanks, I see it is mentioned now in the 2nd statement of the day, after my post
The first post was just regarding intercontinental.
Will be surprising to see if SAA ever return in that format again, after already shrinking so much recently before the virus.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:30 am

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ah414211 wrote:
Per the SAA statement: "This decision means that SAA will only continue to render services on its domestic route between Johannesburg and Cape Town."


Yes, thanks, I see it is mentioned now in the 2nd statement of the day, after my post
The first post was just regarding intercontinental.
Will be surprising to see if SAA ever return in that format again, after already shrinking so much recently before the virus.

If demand for flights picks up after the corona is all over. I would venture that SAA would at the very least return to LHR,JFK,PER and FRA
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:47 am

QR drops CPT to 4 weekly, from the previously reduced 7, from the 1st of April till the end of May.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-21mar20/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:10 am

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If demand for flights picks up after the corona is all over. I would venture that SAA would at the very least return to LHR,JFK,PER and FRA


I think it's impossible to predict how and when we come out of it and what it looks like in other countries, but yes, you're right out these routes. I think any South African longhaul carrier (whether that be SA or another) is going to be interested in a route to LHR and JFK. They are prime O&D routes with premium yield due to large economic integration. A major German gateway is always on the cards given the huge economic and cultural integration between South Africa and Germany. The exact port would be determined by many factors but for SA it's always FRA first. And the same for an Australian city. PER makes sense, but that could easily be MEL or SYD for a different configuration.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:34 am

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If demand for flights picks up after the corona is all over. I would venture that SAA would at the very least return to LHR,JFK,PER and FRA


The irony is that, despite SAA's terrible financial status, it's will likely surivive this ordeal, thanks to being the goverment's pet project. They'd sooner fly empty planes around.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:41 pm

An Air Namibia A330 is currently over Zambia heading to...? SW999. Off for storage somewhere?
 
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An Air Namibia A330 is currently over Zambia heading to...? SW999. Off for storage somewhere?

Looks like it's going into Addis. Collecting Namibians?
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Wamos air has sent 1*B747 and 2*A332 to CPT as repatriation flights. Lufthansa’s B744 is on the way to CPT.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:13 pm

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An Air Namibia A330 is currently over Zambia heading to...? SW999. Off for storage somewhere?

Looks like it's going into Addis. Collecting Namibians?


I doubt there are any Namibians in ADD. I would assume it is for maintenance.
 
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An Air Namibia A330 is currently over Zambia heading to...? SW999. Off for storage somewhere?

Looks like it's going into Addis. Collecting Namibians?


I doubt there are any Namibians in ADD. I would assume it is for maintenance.

Not IN ADD, no, but people who've made it this far home but can't get any further. A KLM flight (A330) landed in WDH yesterday with just 35 passengers. Namibia is excluding foreigners but is repatriating Namibians and permanent residents.

And, as I type, SW998 is over Zambia heading back to WDH from ADD.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:52 pm

SAA suspending food service on JNB-CPT-JNB.

https://twitter.com/flysaa/status/12420 ... 49255?s=21
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:36 pm

Interesting spot if you are near CPT - LOT WAW-CPT B788 repatriation flight.

https://fr24.com/LOT8539/2442595c
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:33 pm

South Africa officially goes into nation-wide lockdown from 26 March until 16 April

https://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/2020/03 ... th-africa/
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:46 pm

Comair shutting down until the 19th of April due to Covid19.

https://www.comair.co.za/coronavirus

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:20 pm

Re: the SW A330 WDH-ADD-WDH: my educated guess is the flight could have been to pick up medical supplies that were delivered to ADD:
https://www.africanews.com/2020/03/24/e ... -jack-ma//
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:54 pm

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Comair shutting down until the 19th of April due to Covid19.

https://www.comair.co.za/coronavirus

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FlySafair as well. Until the 20th of April.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/motoring ... s.html/amp

(Apologies, surprisingly, that is the best article I could find in the subject)
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:18 am

MoKa777 wrote:
Williamsb747 wrote:
Comair shutting down until the 19th of April due to Covid19.

https://www.comair.co.za/coronavirus

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FlySafair as well. Until the 20th of April.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/motoring ... s.html/amp

(Apologies, surprisingly, that is the best article I could find in the subject)



Add SAA to the list. Until April 17th.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/ewn.co.za/ ... period/amp
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Re: the SW A330 WDH-ADD-WDH: my educated guess is the flight could have been to pick up medical supplies that were delivered to ADD:
https://www.africanews.com/2020/03/24/e ... -jack-ma//

It was actually taking people OUT of Namibia and returned without passengers.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:34 pm

Any news on new Lusaka terminal opening? I was under the impression that it was done or nearly so?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:36 pm

uhh bit of a weird flight latam A359 JNB-DPS, anyone know what it is for?

https://fr24.com/TAM9517/2449805c
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:00 pm

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uhh bit of a weird flight latam A359 JNB-DPS, anyone know what it is for?

https://fr24.com/TAM9517/2449805c


Repatriation flight GRU-JNB-DPS. Fuel stop in JNB.

Edit: I should clarify the repat flight is the DPS-JNB-GRU leg obviously.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:08 pm

SAA to repatriate foreign nationals back to their home country. Two A346 will be used.

Links to various websites;
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.263cha ... on-friday/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... -home/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ewn.co.za/ ... ntries/amp
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:29 pm

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Any news on new Lusaka terminal opening? I was under the impression that it was done or nearly so?

90% done as of the day of this article.

http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_W ... 831197.htm
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:50 pm

SAA to co-operate with Brazilian government to repatriate Brazilian citizens from South Africa. Flight departs tonight from Cape Town to São Paulo.

https://twitter.com/flysaa/status/12470 ... 13248?s=21
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