LotsaRunway wrote:

WN schedule extension for BOS, PVD and MHT is pretty thin. There are periods where PVD-FLL/TPA and MHT-TPA are not run daily. MHT/PVD-MDW are both single daily and BWI is 5 daily for both. BOS has no DAL/HOU/IND/CMH/MKE/ATL but it still runs BNA x4 daily which amazes me. What else does WN have from BOS? 8x BWI, 2x DEN, 3x STL and 5x MDW.

They've also cut the new PWM-BNA which isn't surprising at all.

Does WN fly daily BOS- MCO/TPA??

It appears that American's seasonal service between PWM and DFW is still happening on Saturdays.

Portlander wrote:

It appears that American's seasonal service between PWM and DFW is still happening on Saturdays.

We’re they going to do MIA from PWM? Or was that just PVD?

There were pre virus rumors of the possibility of FLL but not MIA, must have been PVD.

Portlander wrote:

There were pre virus rumors of the possibility of FLL but not MIA, must have been PVD.

Rumors of AA serving PVD-FLL pre virus?

I think you are referring to the winter AA ran PVD-MIA to keep F9 out.

It’s too bad they can’t figure out a way to make weekend flying work... AA doesn’t really do Sat or sat/sun only to warm the market up.

Living in Miami I can tell you that for New England it’s really Fort Lauderdale that you want to connect with in terms of demographics. As far as Caribbean and Latin American cities about 75 to 80% of the total demand can be met via CLT.

I noticed AA commenced DFW-PWM this last weekend. I figured it would be canceled. How about Southwest BNA-PWM and Sun Country MSP-PWM. Are those still on?

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

I noticed AA commenced DFW-PWM this last weekend. I figured it would be canceled. How about Southwest BNA-PWM and Sun Country MSP-PWM. Are those still on?

PWM-MSP yes, PWM-BNA no.

AA at HVN goes to two daily flights to PHL starting July 7th.

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

I noticed AA commenced DFW-PWM this last weekend. I figured it would be canceled. How about Southwest BNA-PWM and Sun Country MSP-PWM. Are those still on?

I've heard the bookings on PWM-DFW looking forward are very good. Perhaps more than 1x week could be justified.

miaami wrote:

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

I noticed AA commenced DFW-PWM this last weekend. I figured it would be canceled. How about Southwest BNA-PWM and Sun Country MSP-PWM. Are those still on?

I've heard the bookings on PWM-DFW looking forward are very good. Perhaps more than 1x week could be justified.

Well when the 3 day advance purchase is $74 that certainly helps.

Some pleasant surprises for PVD this morning in terms of NEW service which is something hard to come by right now...

B6 is adding TPA and RSW ... says "up to daily" so might start as x23 in the fall ... that means they will be up to as many as 7 daily flights which should move them into a solid #3 spot at the airport

F9 who was big, then reduced to almost nothing, is adding MIA 5x weekly, a 2nd daily MCO and boosting TPA up to daily

Overall its about 5 new daily mainline flights

RL757PVD wrote:

Some pleasant surprises for PVD this morning in terms of NEW service which is something hard to come by right now...

B6 is adding TPA and RSW ... says "up to daily" so might start as x23 in the fall ... that means they will be up to as many as 7 daily flights which should move them into a solid #3 spot at the airport

F9 who was big, then reduced to almost nothing, is adding MIA 5x weekly, a 2nd daily MCO and boosting TPA up to daily

Overall its about 5 new daily mainline flights

Good. It's nice to see JetBlue adding additional service out of PVD. It would be nice if they eventually expand west out of PVD and add service to California.

Today was SY's inaugural MSP-PWM. I've got to admit their new livery is really growing on me.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBlQ8lDAB_R/

First visit of an A220 coming to PVD today. DL charter will be bringing the NE Revolution down to MCO.

jplatts wrote:

Here were the number of passengers and the load factors for DEN-PVD, DEN-MHT, and DEN-BOS on WN back in 2013:
BOS-DEN - 180940 passengers, 91.90% load factor
MHT-DEN - 79327 passengers, 92.74% load factor
PVD-DEN - 77610 passengers, 89.51% load factor

WN re-adding MHT-DEN and PVD-DEN nonstop service are both possibilities since.

And that was before WN had a hub in DEN. MHT-DEN is a no-brainer IMO. There is demand for that market in both Summer and Winter and DEN is the best coast-to-coast hub that WN has to offer. It sure beats the weather related issues of MDW and the backtracking of BWI.

DL has used a 752 for PWM-ATL this week. First time a passenger 757 has come to Portland in almost 20 years.

Fex180 wrote:

DL has used a 752 for PWM-ATL this week. First time a passenger 757 has come to Portland in almost 20 years.

Where are you seeing this? I show ATL-PWM service resuming this week with 717s and A319s; not showing any 757s on FlightAware or DAL's schedules.

KPWMSpotter wrote:

Fex180 wrote:

DL has used a 752 for PWM-ATL this week. First time a passenger 757 has come to Portland in almost 20 years.

Where are you seeing this? I show ATL-PWM service resuming this week with 717s and A319s; not showing any 757s on FlightAware or DAL's schedules.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCHtFo5hmrv/

not my photo

Fex180 wrote:

KPWMSpotter wrote:

Fex180 wrote:

DL has used a 752 for PWM-ATL this week. First time a passenger 757 has come to Portland in almost 20 years.

Where are you seeing this? I show ATL-PWM service resuming this week with 717s and A319s; not showing any 757s on FlightAware or DAL's schedules.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCHtFo5hmrv/

not my photo

It was in PWM on a military charter on June 4. Not on a scheduled flight.

Fex180 wrote:

DL has used a 752 for PWM-ATL this week. First time a passenger 757 has come to Portland in almost 20 years.

Last summer, there was the divert headed to Scotland. That was the first one in twenty years.

https://wgme.com/news/local/boston-to-s ... gine-issue

Southwest has added a daily nonstop between STL and PVD. It starts on 7/26 and right now shows ending 8/10. Interesting add with such little notice and for only two weeks.

Misc. items from PVD:

Runway 16-34 reconstruction project is due to begin 8/31. Construction will progress through December, with a winter break, and resume in April 2021.

Due to weather in BOS this evening, a few diversions made their way in - a UA 739 from SFO, B6 A320 from SJU, and a cargo-only FI 763 from KEF.

A (first ever?) visit by an AN-124 is scheduled for 8/30 as a cargo charter.

On another thread, it was announced AA is starting Saturday MIA-PWM-MIA. Good for PWM, but I hate all these Saturday or Sun only, and seasonal only new routes to PWM.

https://onemileatatime.com/american-air ... er-routes/

Any new market during the pandemic is a positive and Miami has been on PWM's wish list for some time. Would have preferred mainline service similar to the DFW flights but I'll take it and I hope it's successful.

According to the Press Release, other cities will be using the E-170/5 to MIA. PWM sits in a good position due to its lack of covid cases which helped AA make the decision. I would love to see B6 offer flights to FLL, but I doubt that will happen. SWA is cutting more flights out of MHT, and I see no return of Delta to MHT in the near future. MHT will become the freight HUB in the coming years turning from commercial to freight. Logan will push freight out with the new Term E expansion. Amazon has started to take over the satellite lots for truck parking.

The article above shows PWM service to MIA is on a EMB 175, did you find something else showing a mainline aircraft?

PWM-MIA is quite a haul on a regional jet. That may be one of the longest RJ fights in the country!

A bit disappointed it isn't using main line equipment but in this market any new service is a miracle.

I agree. MKE to MIA is just a little shy of the distance between PWM and MIA which is also utilizing the EMB 175. Elite Airways has used the CRJ 200 between PWM and Melbourne and now Vero Beach for a while now and that has to be an even more uncomfortable flight due to it's smaller size.

Portlander wrote:

Any new market during the pandemic is a positive and Miami has been on PWM's wish list for some time. Would have preferred mainline service similar to the DFW flights but I'll take it and I hope it's successful.

E175 is better than any domestic A32X or 737 100% of the time. I absolutely love long flights on E175's.

The reason why it’s an E175 is that for sat only to really work with the Miami hub is that it needs to start the day in PWM. My guess is that what would be a morning ORD that comes in the night before will be the plane that does the MIA turn on Saturday. Last month BDL-MIA was operated by an E175 Too

Happened to see an ANC-MHT FedEx MD11 flight a week or two ago while surfing the flight trackers. Any of the MHT followers know how frequently this route is flown? I’m guessing it was a one-off. It had a 98XX flight # (9875?), and all the ex-MHT FedEx/UPS flights I’ve seen in the meantime have been of the relatively short regional variety: MEM, SDF, with a few PHL, BDL, and similar thrown in for good measure.

It appears that American Airlines is really stepping up their service between PWM and PHL starting on November 4th. There will be 6 daily departures from Portland with 2 mainline (A319) aircraft at 5:30AM and 5:55PM and the flights continue beyond February so it's not a holiday push. Mainline service to CLT also continues with no decrease in flights which surprised me due to the added lift to PHL. Not sure if the pandemic will have an effect on this new schedule but it looks promising especially during the normal winter slow down normally associated with northeast markets.

The November AA schedule is still a default/dummy schedule.

Thought it might be too good to be true which is why I stated it "appears" : ) Will some of it come to fruition?

Portlander wrote:

Thought it might be too good to be true which is why I stated it "appears" : ) Will some of it come to fruition?

I'd expect the eventual firmed November schedule to mirror or be a slight decrease from the October schedule.

November schedules are definitely not accurate. BTV at one point had 5 319s a day to phl.

B595 wrote:

Happened to see an ANC-MHT FedEx MD11 flight a week or two ago while surfing the flight trackers. Any of the MHT followers know how frequently this route is flown? I’m guessing it was a one-off. It had a 98XX flight # (9875?), and all the ex-MHT FedEx/UPS flights I’ve seen in the meantime have been of the relatively short regional variety: MEM, SDF, with a few PHL, BDL, and similar thrown in for good measure.

I'm not exactly in-the-know for MHT, but I think there have been a whole bunch of these flights carrying COVID-19 protection supplies(?) Almost always the MD11, but I think a 777 did it once.

It was mentioned in enilria's thread that UA will be stopping MHT in October. Assuming AA's October schedule rolls into November, that will leave MHT with 11 daily flights - 3 CLT CR9, 2 PHL CR7, 1 ORD CR7, 4 BWI 737, 1 MDW 737. Very discouraging to see that, but with PWM growing quite a bit (it's only an hour from the MA/NH line to PWM) and easy enough access to Boston for those coming from the Merrimack Valley area (45-50 minute drive from downtown Manchester to Logan) just squeezes the demand at MHT. Especially when you consider that there isn't a whole lot of demand north of Manchester and that doesn't help (at least down south at PVD, they can pull traffic from the Connecticut coast and Cape Cod).

deltairlines wrote:

It was mentioned in enilria's thread that UA will be stopping MHT in October. Assuming AA's October schedule rolls into November, that will leave MHT with 11 daily flights - 3 CLT CR9, 2 PHL CR7, 1 ORD CR7, 4 BWI 737, 1 MDW 737. Very discouraging to see that, but with PWM growing quite a bit (it's only an hour from the MA/NH line to PWM) and easy enough access to Boston for those coming from the Merrimack Valley area (45-50 minute drive from downtown Manchester to Logan) just squeezes the demand at MHT. Especially when you consider that there isn't a whole lot of demand north of Manchester and that doesn't help (at least down south at PVD, they can pull traffic from the Connecticut coast and Cape Cod).

I don't think UA has been seen at MHT since the CARES act allowed them to stop in favor for BOS during late spring. I'm actually surprised anyone is adding new flights to anywhere during Oct and Nov.

LotsaRunway wrote:

I'm not exactly in-the-know for MHT, but I think there have been a whole bunch of these flights carrying COVID-19 protection supplies(?) Almost always the MD11, but I think a 777 did it once.

Ok, makes sense that it’s COVID-related. PPE or materials for the bio-tech industry in the Boston area.

Purely from an aviation standpoint, it’s fun to see a true long-haul route into MHT (ANC-MHT is 2900nm, ignoring winds probably close to ~8h flight time).

Huge news for BDL.

JetBlue adding LAX, SFO, LAS, and CUN.

Very good times on both sides IMO.

LAX-BDL 9:00AM-5:02PM
BDL-LAX 6:15PM-9:38PM

SFO-BDL 9:00AM-5:20PM
BDL-SFO 6:30PM-9:54PM

LAS-BDL 12:00PM-7:38PM
BDL-LAS 8:00AM-10:42AM

CUN-BDL 2:45PM-6:45PM
BDL-CUN 9:30AM-1:46PM

http://blueir.investproductions.com/inv ... 2HCYV9eYPk

I was surprised that BDL LAS wasn’t announced that last go around but I guess now we know why. These should all do well though SFO might be tough with it being a dead end on both sides. I’d like to think PVD LAX might be soon on the opportunity list, and maybe 2-3x weekly LAS.

Are the new BDL flights all daily?

The part that got me curious was their statement that JetBlue will be the largest carrier in CT. Looking at BTS right now for the year up to Feb 2022, JetBlue was at 13.35% market share and Southwest was at 21.74%. Jetblue would have to make quite a bit of additions to overtake Southwest. I think it's a good idea that they would try to build up their presence in the area between NYC and Boston. I'm just not sure what else they are going to add.

The top markets out of hartford are Orlando, DC, Miami, Chicago, Tampa, Atlanta, Denver, LA, MSP, SF, Dallas, PBI, Detroit, CLT, MYR, RDU, RSW, LAS, PHX, Houston, Seattle, St louis and San Diego.

I think it's safe to say they won't try another airlines fortress hub or the ULLC magnet that is MYR. So the only other places I can see them adding is.
- more capacity to FLL/MCO/TPA/RSW/PBI (maybe more year round stuff for TPA/RSW)
- bring back DCA
- RDU
I guess they could also try MBJ or AUA. Not sure that will actually make them the largest.

tphuang wrote:

The part that got me curious was their statement that JetBlue will be the largest carrier in CT. Looking at BTS right now for the year up to Feb 2022, JetBlue was at 13.35% market share and Southwest was at 21.74%. Jetblue would have to make quite a bit of additions to overtake Southwest. I think it's a good idea that they would try to build up their presence in the area between NYC and Boston. I'm just not sure what else they are going to add.

The top markets out of hartford are Orlando, DC, Miami, Chicago, Tampa, Atlanta, Denver, LA, MSP, SF, Dallas, PBI, Detroit, CLT, MYR, RDU, RSW, LAS, PHX, Houston, Seattle, St louis and San Diego.

I think it's safe to say they won't try another airlines fortress hub or the ULLC magnet that is MYR. So the only other places I can see them adding is.
- more capacity to FLL/MCO/TPA/RSW/PBI (maybe more year round stuff for TPA/RSW)
- bring back DCA
- RDU
I guess they could also try MBJ or AUA. Not sure that will actually make them the largest.

There are a few additional WN focus cities such as DAL, HOU, OAK, PHX, and SAN that might be able to support nonstop service out of BDL on WN after demand for domestic air travel returns with the amount of demand that was there to California, Phoenix, and Texas from BDL prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. WN also has a significantly bigger presence than B6 does in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, San Francisco Bay Area, Phoenix, and San Diego markets to support nonstop service to additional destinations out of BDL on WN.

DL adding BDL-SLC nonstop service is also a possibility with SLC being one of the top destinations not currently served nonstop from BDL and with DL being able to offer connections to destinations further west through the SLC hub.

UA re-adding BDL-SFO nonstop service might also be a possibility with SFO being a major hub for UA and with the San Francisco Bay Area being one of the top markets not currently served nonstop from BDL.

Eastern Airlines 767 from Oklahoma City sitting at MAC Jets(PWM) came in around 830pm Thursday night.... only used 1/2 of 11/29 to land.

Talked to one of the pilots. Full load with over 200 soldiers and gear on the departure from PWM, hope the 7200' runway can handle it!

Portlander wrote:

Talked to one of the pilots. Full load with over 200 soldiers and gear on the departure from PWM, hope the 7200' runway can handle it!

Similar length runways at PVD and LGA have handled B767s for years.

RobertS975 wrote:

Portlander wrote:

Talked to one of the pilots. Full load with over 200 soldiers and gear on the departure from PWM, hope the 7200' runway can handle it!

Similar length runways at PVD and LGA have handled B767s for years.

That is true but main runway at PVD went from 7166' to 8700' in 2017. Condor had seasonal FRA flights back then on A330-200 but not on a Winter contaminated runway. NFL charters when jet stream permitted could make the West Coast from PVD. Up north at PWM, however, weather is a bigger deal.