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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:52 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Looks like KLM will launch Austin on March 28, 2021 now.

However, it's with the 787-9 instead of A330-300.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-11apr20/


Was this ever bookable when switched to 2021 start date? KLM booking engine is available until July and AUS is not bookable.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:34 pm

Western727 wrote:
April 2020 stats came out last week, and it's pretty bad: 96.6% below April 2019. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/april-2 ... -bergstrom


I know the actual data is out there, but I'm guessing this is the equivalent of 2005 traffic if you bring the plots down incrementally?
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:18 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Western727 wrote:
April 2020 stats came out last week, and it's pretty bad: 96.6% below April 2019. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/april-2 ... -bergstrom


I know the actual data is out there, but I'm guessing this is the equivalent of 2005 traffic if you bring the plots down incrementally?


I'd love to know the historical data too, CarlosSi. I doubt it's the same as 2005, because 47,781 is a very low number. I would think that's more like 1995 or even 1990...at least, during the old AUS (Mueller Field, before the move to the current Bergstrom) days? That's only speculation on my part, though.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:49 pm

Western727 wrote:
CarlosSi wrote:
Western727 wrote:
April 2020 stats came out last week, and it's pretty bad: 96.6% below April 2019. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/april-2 ... -bergstrom


I know the actual data is out there, but I'm guessing this is the equivalent of 2005 traffic if you bring the plots down incrementally?


I'd love to know the historical data too, CarlosSi. I doubt it's the same as 2005, because 47,781 is a very low number. I would think that's more like 1995 or even 1990...at least, during the old AUS (Mueller Field, before the move to the current Bergstrom) days? That's only speculation on my part, though.


2006 was an average 580K-ish mil a month (which would be an entire year of the April numbers extrapolated out). 1981 had 1,965,186 passengers for the year in Austin which is still 163,765 a month on average. I would guess you would need to go back to the 60s to get to these levels. Early 70s at least.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Iju1rr ... sFdlp/view
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:54 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
Western727 wrote:
CarlosSi wrote:

I know the actual data is out there, but I'm guessing this is the equivalent of 2005 traffic if you bring the plots down incrementally?


I'd love to know the historical data too, CarlosSi. I doubt it's the same as 2005, because 47,781 is a very low number. I would think that's more like 1995 or even 1990...at least, during the old AUS (Mueller Field, before the move to the current Bergstrom) days? That's only speculation on my part, though.


2006 was an average 580K-ish mil a month (which would be an entire year of the April numbers extrapolated out). 1981 had 1,965,186 passengers for the year in Austin which is still 163,765 a month on average. I would guess you would need to go back to the 60s to get to these levels. Early 70s at least.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Iju1rr ... sFdlp/view


Ouuuuch. That's pretty bleak. Thanks, Jshank83. I'm sure CarlosSi will find this of great interest as well.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:47 pm

On a different, but AUS-related topic: I found an old NWA timetable from 8 Feb 1989. Living in AUS now, I was shocked to discover an almost-daily (X6, if I recall...or perhaps X7) departure to SAT, a trip of only 70 miles and 0:35 according to the timetable. A friend who grew up in AUS was surprised as well, and looked up departedflights.com's NWA schedules; the one from 1987 doesn't list any SAT service, and the one from 1994 doesn't list the AUS-SAT route.

What gives? Do any of you know the history of that flight and how long it lasted? My friend (who now lives in PVD) speculated that it could be because at the time AUS was at the old Mueller Field and thus very close to the TX Capitol and the University of Texas at Austin, making possible the notion that the short flight would be attractive for college students going home to San Antonio...though central San Antonio is only about 1:15 away by car.

Any insight would be appreciated.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:34 pm

Western727 wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
Western727 wrote:

I'd love to know the historical data too, CarlosSi. I doubt it's the same as 2005, because 47,781 is a very low number. I would think that's more like 1995 or even 1990...at least, during the old AUS (Mueller Field, before the move to the current Bergstrom) days? That's only speculation on my part, though.


2006 was an average 580K-ish mil a month (which would be an entire year of the April numbers extrapolated out). 1981 had 1,965,186 passengers for the year in Austin which is still 163,765 a month on average. I would guess you would need to go back to the 60s to get to these levels. Early 70s at least.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Iju1rr ... sFdlp/view


Ouuuuch. That's pretty bleak. Thanks, Jshank83. I'm sure CarlosSi will find this of great interest as well.


In that case the plots must be a lot more condensed than I did by extrapolating. Thanks! That’s low indeed. You could pretty much reopen Mueller and it’d operate just fine.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:05 pm

Western727 wrote:
On a different, but AUS-related topic: I found an old NWA timetable from 8 Feb 1989. Living in AUS now, I was shocked to discover an almost-daily (X6, if I recall...or perhaps X7) departure to SAT, a trip of only 70 miles and 0:35 according to the timetable. A friend who grew up in AUS was surprised as well, and looked up departedflights.com's NWA schedules; the one from 1987 doesn't list any SAT service, and the one from 1994 doesn't list the AUS-SAT route.

Was it was part of a longer flight? Delta operated SLC-SAT-AUS back in 1992. What you're seeing might be a similar tag flight.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:34 pm

HeeseokKoo wrote:
Western727 wrote:
On a different, but AUS-related topic: I found an old NWA timetable from 8 Feb 1989. Living in AUS now, I was shocked to discover an almost-daily (X6, if I recall...or perhaps X7) departure to SAT, a trip of only 70 miles and 0:35 according to the timetable. A friend who grew up in AUS was surprised as well, and looked up departedflights.com's NWA schedules; the one from 1987 doesn't list any SAT service, and the one from 1994 doesn't list the AUS-SAT route.

Was it was part of a longer flight? Delta operated SLC-SAT-AUS back in 1992. What you're seeing might be a similar tag flight.


That's certainly possible. The only other route NWA offered from AUS was to MEM (generally 3x/daily), so without looking at my '89 timetable again yet, I speculate that it was, indeed, a tag flight for MEM-AUS-SAT.

And I thought I had "bragging rights" having flown on NWA's DTW-MBS flight (98 miles and roughly 40-45 minutes gate to gate, shorter on the return to DTW, of course)... ;)
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:23 pm

Western727 wrote:
On a different, but AUS-related topic: I found an old NWA timetable from 8 Feb 1989. Living in AUS now, I was shocked to discover an almost-daily (X6, if I recall...or perhaps X7) departure to SAT, a trip of only 70 miles and 0:35 according to the timetable. A friend who grew up in AUS was surprised as well, and looked up departedflights.com's NWA schedules; the one from 1987 doesn't list any SAT service, and the one from 1994 doesn't list the AUS-SAT route.

What gives? Do any of you know the history of that flight and how long it lasted? My friend (who now lives in PVD) speculated that it could be because at the time AUS was at the old Mueller Field and thus very close to the TX Capitol and the University of Texas at Austin, making possible the notion that the short flight would be attractive for college students going home to San Antonio...though central San Antonio is only about 1:15 away by car.

Any insight would be appreciated.


If I remember correctly Northwest also flew into Austin and then would fly to an airport in the valley (HRL I think) where it would RON then back to Austin very early then next morning.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:21 pm

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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm

As a GA pilot, I took it upon myself the other day (Sunday at around 6:25-6:40 pm local time) to fly above the controlled airspace surrounding AUS to observe the traffic. My passenger and I were bummed to see only a single aircraft (a UA 320) parked at the 35-gate main terminal; granted, a WN 73G had just left the terminal for its flight to DEN; we watched it take off from 17R. According to FlightAware a couple of other flights landed just after we flew away from AUS. And, of course, the long term parking lot remained virtually empty.

The southern terminal had a single F9 320 that we watched as it approached and landed on 17R after a flight from MCO.

I truly look forward to seeing the main terminal look normal once again.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:53 pm

Western727 wrote:
As a GA pilot, I took it upon myself the other day (Sunday at around 6:25-6:40 pm local time) to fly above the controlled airspace surrounding AUS to observe the traffic. My passenger and I were bummed to see only a single aircraft (a UA 320) parked at the 35-gate main terminal; granted, a WN 73G had just left the terminal for its flight to DEN; we watched it take off from 17R. According to FlightAware a couple of other flights landed just after we flew away from AUS. And, of course, the long term parking lot remained virtually empty.

The southern terminal had a single F9 320 that we watched as it approached and landed on 17R after a flight from MCO.

I truly look forward to seeing the main terminal look normal once again.


I'm sure this is deep grief by seeing one parked aircraft at deserted terminal. Although this 6:30pm local time you observed the traffic at AUS was not the airport rush hour. Typically, the rush hour at AUS is between 4pm and 5pm and I checked the Flightradar24; apparently we have about 6 parked aircrafts there at between 4pm and 5pm. This is still pretty low number than pre-pandemic.

Couple years after 9/11, I recalled I saw only one Southwest 737, nothing else on the tarmac!
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:50 pm

I would be surprised if KL comes to AUS next year. KL last week said they are going to slowly add service back to the U.S. and I think there are many KL cities that will get service back before KL starts up AUS. Maybe they’ll come to AUS in 2022 or 2023 or when DL truly makes AUS a focus city.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:06 pm

Appears TESLA will be building a tera factory right next to the airport on a 2100 acre site. Also there's very strong indications amongst the business community that TESLA will relocate their HQ to Austin. Time will tell but if that occurs the airport might get a few flights out of it once business traffic rebounds.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:10 pm

Western727 wrote:
April 2020 stats came out last week, and it's pretty bad: 96.6% below April 2019. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/april-2 ... -bergstrom


May is out now as well -- off 91.52% from 2020. Nowhere to go but up...

http://www.austintexas.gov/sites/defaul ... y_2020.pdf
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:22 am

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I would be surprised if KL comes to AUS next year. KL last week said they are going to slowly add service back to the U.S. and I think there are many KL cities that will get service back before KL starts up AUS. Maybe they’ll come to AUS in 2022 or 2023 or when DL truly makes AUS a focus city.


There is a possibility for KLM return to AUS for the SXSW next year. Seasonal flights at least.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:02 pm

knope2001 wrote:
Western727 wrote:
April 2020 stats came out last week, and it's pretty bad: 96.6% below April 2019. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/april-2 ... -bergstrom


May is out now as well -- off 91.52% from 2020. Nowhere to go but up...

http://www.austintexas.gov/sites/defaul ... y_2020.pdf


Sigh. Thanks, knope2011, for the link. Quite an eye opener.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:14 pm

Sun Country is running a bookable DFW-AUS-SAT flight on Saturday, June 27.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:38 pm

rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country is running a bookable DFW-AUS-SAT flight on Saturday, June 27.


Too bad you can't do AUS-SAT but that is pretty cool.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:04 pm

rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country is running a bookable DFW-AUS-SAT flight on Saturday, June 27.


What a coincidence! Few days ago, Western727 discussed about Northwest's ancient AUS-SAT route. Now, SCX is bringing this route back!


WN732 wrote:
Too bad you can't do AUS-SAT but that is pretty cool.


I did the mock booking on their website and was stunned that AUS-SAT is bookable! One way ticket is only $28!!
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:26 pm

Maddog88Lover wrote:
rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country is running a bookable DFW-AUS-SAT flight on Saturday, June 27.


What a coincidence! Few days ago, Western727 discussed about Northwest's ancient AUS-SAT route. Now, SCX is bringing this route back!


WN732 wrote:
Too bad you can't do AUS-SAT but that is pretty cool.


I did the mock booking on their website and was stunned that AUS-SAT is bookable! One way ticket is only $28!!


Seem like June 27th is only available for AUS-SAT bookable route. I was hoping this is daily route....
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:42 pm

Maddog88Lover wrote:
Maddog88Lover wrote:
rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country is running a bookable DFW-AUS-SAT flight on Saturday, June 27.


What a coincidence! Few days ago, Western727 discussed about Northwest's ancient AUS-SAT route. Now, SCX is bringing this route back!


WN732 wrote:
Too bad you can't do AUS-SAT but that is pretty cool.


I did the mock booking on their website and was stunned that AUS-SAT is bookable! One way ticket is only $28!!


Seem like June 27th is only available for AUS-SAT bookable route. I was hoping this is daily route....


I did see that too. I tried seeing if you could do AUS-SAT on SY and then come back to Austin on Amtrak but the times just don't line up.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:50 pm

AM resumed the first international service on 2 July, 3x/week to MEX on the 190: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/aeromex ... ervice-aus

Does anyone know anything about the others? BA, LH, DY? I recall a few posts earlier KL announcing a start to AMS (and not a resumption, for they were supposed to start this past May before COVID hit) in late March 2021, on the 787 in lieu of the 330.

EDIT: formatting error.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:58 pm

Western727 wrote:
AM resumed the first international service on 2 July, 3x/week to MEX on the 190: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/aeromex ... ervice-aus

Does anyone know anything about the others? BA, LH, DY? I recall a few posts earlier KL announcing a start to AMS (and not a resumption, for they were supposed to start this past May before COVID hit) in late March 2021, on the 787 in lieu of the 330.

EDIT: formatting error.


Not entirely sure, but I think KLM completely removed Austin from its schedule, including the March 28, 2021 787-9 launch.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:21 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Western727 wrote:
AM resumed the first international service on 2 July, 3x/week to MEX on the 190: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/aeromex ... ervice-aus

Does anyone know anything about the others? BA, LH, DY? I recall a few posts earlier KL announcing a start to AMS (and not a resumption, for they were supposed to start this past May before COVID hit) in late March 2021, on the 787 in lieu of the 330.

EDIT: formatting error.


Not entirely sure, but I think KLM completely removed Austin from its schedule, including the March 28, 2021 787-9 launch.


Awwww, that's a big bummer....thanks. Looking at Kayak.com I was indeed not able to find anything direct to AMS on the dummy dates of 5-12 May. :cry2:

As for LH, I found nothing to FRA in early April but was able to find a nonstop on the same dummy date of 5-12 May. Listed as a 333 flight.

Digging some more, I see BA is set to return in September with the 351 before changing to the 772 in November and then downgauging to the 359 in March. And that's presumably subject to change.
Jack @ AUS
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:33 pm

Western727 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Western727 wrote:
AM resumed the first international service on 2 July, 3x/week to MEX on the 190: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/aeromex ... ervice-aus

Does anyone know anything about the others? BA, LH, DY? I recall a few posts earlier KL announcing a start to AMS (and not a resumption, for they were supposed to start this past May before COVID hit) in late March 2021, on the 787 in lieu of the 330.

EDIT: formatting error.


Not entirely sure, but I think KLM completely removed Austin from its schedule, including the March 28, 2021 787-9 launch.


Awwww, that's a big bummer....thanks. Looking at Kayak.com I was indeed not able to find anything direct to AMS on the dummy dates of 5-12 May. :cry2:

As for LH, I found nothing to FRA in early April but was able to find a nonstop on the same dummy date of 5-12 May. Listed as a 333 flight.

Digging some more, I see BA is set to return in September with the 351 before changing to the 772 in November and then downgauging to the 359 in March. And that's presumably subject to change.


BA doesn’t have the A350-900, so it’s likely on the A350-1000 again.

As for Norwegian, unfortunately it looks like they’ve completely removed LGW/CDG-AUS in 2021.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:13 am

WN732 wrote:
Maddog88Lover wrote:
Maddog88Lover wrote:

What a coincidence! Few days ago, Western727 discussed about Northwest's ancient AUS-SAT route. Now, SCX is bringing this route back!




I did the mock booking on their website and was stunned that AUS-SAT is bookable! One way ticket is only $28!!


Seem like June 27th is only available for AUS-SAT bookable route. I was hoping this is daily route....


I did see that too. I tried seeing if you could do AUS-SAT on SY and then come back to Austin on Amtrak but the times just don't line up.


Looks like Sun Country is flying this route a few days in August and September for $98 one way. Does the flight connect with other Sun Country flights or is this just for O&D traffic? Seems like a strange route unless they need to reposition an aircraft anyway.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:15 am

jjbiv wrote:
WN732 wrote:
Maddog88Lover wrote:

Seem like June 27th is only available for AUS-SAT bookable route. I was hoping this is daily route....


I did see that too. I tried seeing if you could do AUS-SAT on SY and then come back to Austin on Amtrak but the times just don't line up.


Looks like Sun Country is flying this route a few days in August and September for $98 one way. Does the flight connect with other Sun Country flights or is this just for O&D traffic? Seems like a strange route unless they need to reposition an aircraft anyway.

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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:47 pm

Wacko55 wrote:
Appears TESLA will be building a tera factory right next to the airport on a 2100 acre site. Also there's very strong indications amongst the business community that TESLA will relocate their HQ to Austin. Time will tell but if that occurs the airport might get a few flights out of it once business traffic rebounds.


Worst kept secret in these parts. Factory confirmed today. Hearing bigger news is coming down the pike in September about the HQ relocation.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:19 pm

May and June pax & cargo numbers. AUS' management has stopped including the visual chart for pax...and I wonder why, though I kind of can't blame them when I think about it.

May (pax down 91.5% from May '19, cargo down 12.4%): http://www.austintexas.gov/news/may-202 ... -bergstrom
June (pax down 81.9%, cargo up 22.6%): http://www.austintexas.gov/news/june-20 ... -bergstrom

Indeed, as a GA pilot based out of 50R (Lockhart, TX, ~20mi S of AUS) I've done a few flights above AUS to watch the activity and have noticed an uptick in the past few weeks.
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:37 pm

Western727 wrote:
May and June pax & cargo numbers. AUS' management has stopped including the visual chart for pax...and I wonder why, though I kind of can't blame them when I think about it.

May (pax down 91.5% from May '19, cargo down 12.4%): http://www.austintexas.gov/news/may-202 ... -bergstrom
June (pax down 81.9%, cargo up 22.6%): http://www.austintexas.gov/news/june-20 ... -bergstrom

Indeed, as a GA pilot based out of 50R (Lockhart, TX, ~20mi S of AUS) I've done a few flights above AUS to watch the activity and have noticed an uptick in the past few weeks.


You are absolutely right. It is getting better but we have a lot of catching up to do.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:56 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Western727 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

Not entirely sure, but I think KLM completely removed Austin from its schedule, including the March 28, 2021 787-9 launch.


Awwww, that's a big bummer....thanks. Looking at Kayak.com I was indeed not able to find anything direct to AMS on the dummy dates of 5-12 May. :cry2:

As for LH, I found nothing to FRA in early April but was able to find a nonstop on the same dummy date of 5-12 May. Listed as a 333 flight.

Digging some more, I see BA is set to return in September with the 351 before changing to the 772 in November and then downgauging to the 359 in March. And that's presumably subject to change.


BA doesn’t have the A350-900, so it’s likely on the A350-1000 again.

As for Norwegian, unfortunately it looks like they’ve completely removed LGW/CDG-AUS in 2021.

AM has ended service to AUS (they’re offloading their 170s and 190s as part of bankruptcy restructuring).

BA is still planning to resume with the 789, downgauged from the 351 (still 4-class service), but it’s unclear when that will happen—as of right now, the last week in October, but that may just be a placeholder date as it’s also the date the winter schedule becomes effective.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:36 pm

khowaga wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Western727 wrote:

Awwww, that's a big bummer....thanks. Looking at Kayak.com I was indeed not able to find anything direct to AMS on the dummy dates of 5-12 May. :cry2:

As for LH, I found nothing to FRA in early April but was able to find a nonstop on the same dummy date of 5-12 May. Listed as a 333 flight.

Digging some more, I see BA is set to return in September with the 351 before changing to the 772 in November and then downgauging to the 359 in March. And that's presumably subject to change.


BA doesn’t have the A350-900, so it’s likely on the A350-1000 again.

As for Norwegian, unfortunately it looks like they’ve completely removed LGW/CDG-AUS in 2021.

AM has ended service to AUS (they’re offloading their 170s and 190s as part of bankruptcy restructuring).

BA is still planning to resume with the 789, downgauged from the 351 (still 4-class service), but it’s unclear when that will happen—as of right now, the last week in October, but that may just be a placeholder date as it’s also the date the winter schedule becomes effective.


Thanks for the BA update, I was wondering about that. Indeed on AM, which was quite a bummer to see after AUS posted a piece on their website announcing the resumption of the first international service out of AUS, only to have AM cut the route so soon after (couple of weeks, if I recall).

As WN732 said, we have quite a ways to go...
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:57 pm

Western727 wrote:
Thanks for the BA update, I was wondering about that. Indeed on AM, which was quite a bummer to see after AUS posted a piece on their website announcing the resumption of the first international service out of AUS, only to have AM cut the route so soon after (couple of weeks, if I recall).

As WN732 said, we have quite a ways to go...


Yeah, I thought it was a little weird that AM tried to come back operating what was essentially a COVID hotspot-to-COVID hotspot route, but they may have been under pressure from their creditors to put the aircraft back into use.

Assuming they survive financially, maybe we’ll see them back in a few years.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:33 pm

Western727 wrote:
khowaga wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

BA doesn’t have the A350-900, so it’s likely on the A350-1000 again.

As for Norwegian, unfortunately it looks like they’ve completely removed LGW/CDG-AUS in 2021.

AM has ended service to AUS (they’re offloading their 170s and 190s as part of bankruptcy restructuring).

BA is still planning to resume with the 789, downgauged from the 351 (still 4-class service), but it’s unclear when that will happen—as of right now, the last week in October, but that may just be a placeholder date as it’s also the date the winter schedule becomes effective.


Thanks for the BA update, I was wondering about that. Indeed on AM, which was quite a bummer to see after AUS posted a piece on their website announcing the resumption of the first international service out of AUS, only to have AM cut the route so soon after (couple of weeks, if I recall).

As WN732 said, we have quite a ways to go...

The administration is dropping the restrictions on which cities can receive flights from the EU and UK effective next week, which clears the legal barrier to BA or LH resuming service.

BA still has 190/191 resuming the last week in October in its booking system (on 789); now to see if they think the market is strong enough to actually do so.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:48 pm

khowaga wrote:
Western727 wrote:
khowaga wrote:
AM has ended service to AUS (they’re offloading their 170s and 190s as part of bankruptcy restructuring).

BA is still planning to resume with the 789, downgauged from the 351 (still 4-class service), but it’s unclear when that will happen—as of right now, the last week in October, but that may just be a placeholder date as it’s also the date the winter schedule becomes effective.


Thanks for the BA update, I was wondering about that. Indeed on AM, which was quite a bummer to see after AUS posted a piece on their website announcing the resumption of the first international service out of AUS, only to have AM cut the route so soon after (couple of weeks, if I recall).

As WN732 said, we have quite a ways to go...

The administration is dropping the restrictions on which cities can receive flights from the EU and UK effective next week, which clears the legal barrier to BA or LH resuming service.

BA still has 190/191 resuming the last week in October in its booking system (on 789); now to see if they think the market is strong enough to actually do so.


Source please.
the truth does matter, guys. too bad it's often quite subjective. the truth is beyond the mere facts and figures. it's beyond good and bad, right and wrong...
 
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:15 pm

klm617 wrote:
khowaga wrote:
Western727 wrote:

Thanks for the BA update, I was wondering about that. Indeed on AM, which was quite a bummer to see after AUS posted a piece on their website announcing the resumption of the first international service out of AUS, only to have AM cut the route so soon after (couple of weeks, if I recall).

As WN732 said, we have quite a ways to go...

The administration is dropping the restrictions on which cities can receive flights from the EU and UK effective next week, which clears the legal barrier to BA or LH resuming service.

BA still has 190/191 resuming the last week in October in its booking system (on 789); now to see if they think the market is strong enough to actually do so.


Source please.

https://www.afar.com/magazine/us-airpor ... r-covid-19


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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:10 pm

July numbers out, and the graph is back, which is appreciated. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/july-20 ... -bergstrom
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Re: Austin Texas Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:05 pm

Western727 wrote:
July numbers out, and the graph is back, which is appreciated. http://www.austintexas.gov/news/july-20 ... -bergstrom


Definitely promising numbers. I hope the upward trend continues. No, I pray that it continues.

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