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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:07 pm

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Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

G-ZZZA and G-ZZZB were both withdrawn from service last month, not last year.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:43 pm

UA947 wrote:
Special wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

Nope, not mentioned. Likely because they flew and arrived at LHR on March 19th & 20th of THIS year.




audidudi wrote:
Special wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

G-ZZZA and G-ZZZB were both withdrawn from service last month, not last year.

Really?? Where did you find that??
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:01 pm

UA947 wrote:
UA947 wrote:
Special wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

Nope, not mentioned. Likely because they flew and arrived at LHR on March 19th & 20th of THIS year.




audidudi wrote:
Special wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

G-ZZZA and G-ZZZB were both withdrawn from service last month, not last year.

Really?? Where did you find that??


Right here:

http://thebasource.com/aircraft/b777-200/g-zzza/

http://thebasource.com/aircraft/b777-200/g-zzzb/
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:21 pm

With the LH concern already publicly saying they are coming out a smaller (but possibly stronger in relation to the equally ailing competition) carrier post Corona chances are quite high AUAs 777 fleet might be axed.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if some aging BA and AF 77Es might also not return to service.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:52 pm

na wrote:
With the LH concern already publicly saying they are coming out a smaller (but possibly stronger in relation to the equally ailing competition) carrier post Corona chances are quite high AUAs 777 fleet might be axed.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if some aging BA and AF 77Es might also not return to service.


Other than the last 2 77As at British Airways having been withdrawn, I wouldn't go betting on BA withdrawing their fleet of 43 772s just yet... The carrier is already in the process of refurbishing their eldest 772s with new interiors and Club Suites with 4 already completed and a further 2 currently undergoing refurbishment at Cardiff, and very recently have stated the 744s are more likely to be culled first. Prior to this, BA have stated their 772s will have a 30 year service life, although that is subject to change given COVID-19.

If anything, BA are likely to retire their 744s with routes filled by their 772/77Ws instead which is what we are already seeing happening.

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:01 pm

Speedbird96 wrote:
na wrote:
With the LH concern already publicly saying they are coming out a smaller (but possibly stronger in relation to the equally ailing competition) carrier post Corona chances are quite high AUAs 777 fleet might be axed.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if some aging BA and AF 77Es might also not return to service.


Other than the last 2 77As at British Airways having been withdrawn, I wouldn't go betting on BA withdrawing their fleet of 43 772s just yet... The carrier is already in the process of refurbishing their eldest 772s with new interiors and Club Suites with 4 already completed and a further 2 currently undergoing refurbishment at Cardiff, and very recently have stated the 744s are more likely to be culled first. Prior to this, BA have stated their 772s will have a 30 year service life, although that is subject to change given COVID-19.

If anything, BA are likely to retire their 744s with routes filled by their 772/77Ws instead which is what we are already seeing happening.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... rias-a340s



"although that is subject to change given COVID-19." That is the only sentence of value at the moment. I doubt BA is refurbishing further 77Es for the foreseeable future.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:19 pm

na wrote:
Speedbird96 wrote:
na wrote:
With the LH concern already publicly saying they are coming out a smaller (but possibly stronger in relation to the equally ailing competition) carrier post Corona chances are quite high AUAs 777 fleet might be axed.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if some aging BA and AF 77Es might also not return to service.


Other than the last 2 77As at British Airways having been withdrawn, I wouldn't go betting on BA withdrawing their fleet of 43 772s just yet... The carrier is already in the process of refurbishing their eldest 772s with new interiors and Club Suites with 4 already completed and a further 2 currently undergoing refurbishment at Cardiff, and very recently have stated the 744s are more likely to be culled first. Prior to this, BA have stated their 772s will have a 30 year service life, although that is subject to change given COVID-19.

If anything, BA are likely to retire their 744s with routes filled by their 772/77Ws instead which is what we are already seeing happening.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... rias-a340s



"although that is subject to change given COVID-19." That is the only sentence of value at the moment. I doubt BA is refurbishing further 77Es for the foreseeable future.


Not entirely correct as G-VIIB/N are currently being refurbished and BA have not publicly stated that the refurbishment programme has been put on hold, so we will wait and see.

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:55 pm

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Special wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but BA retired their final 2 A market 777-200 (G-ZZZB & G-ZZZA) on the 19 & 20th of March last year.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british ... r-276.html

Nope, not mentioned. Likely because they flew and arrived at LHR on March 19th & 20th of THIS year.


Shoot, sorry, I meant last month, apologies
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:10 pm

What is the fate of the Virgin Australia 77Ws now?
Are the three big US Airlines thinking about shrinking their 777-fleets in the wake of the Corona crisis and a more than likely slow recovery process?
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:26 am

Emirates 15 years old B777, A6-EBC, has left the fleet.


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Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:46 pm

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Emirates 15 years old B777, A6-EBC, has left the fleet.


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It was withdrawn from services ages ago. Hasn't actually 'left' yet.

It was at the engine run-up bay at DXB getting prepped for end of lease.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:50 pm

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xwb777 wrote:
Emirates 15 years old B777, A6-EBC, has left the fleet.


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It was withdrawn from services ages ago. Hasn't actually 'left' yet.

It was at the engine run-up bay at DXB getting prepped for end of lease.

As airport real estate for parking is at more of a premium, there will be a clear out of ex-lease aircraft retained / leased 'on demand', assuming the lessor wants them.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 6:07 pm

Latest movements (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Boeing 777-212 32318 441 VP-BYW Standard Chartered Aviation Finance ferried 21 May 2020 KUL-SEA, ex 9M-FGB
Boeing 777F 65421 1649 B-20EM China Southern delivery 22 May 2020 PAE-CAN ex N875BA
Boeing 777F 65422 1650 B-20EN China Southern delivery 22 May 2020 PAE-CAN ex N877BA
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:22 pm

Boeing 777 -36N 32789 508 OE-IHW GECAS ferried 03jun20 SHJ-ATH prior freighter conversion ex A6-EBB
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:25 pm

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Boeing 777 -36N 32789 508 OE-IHW GECAS ferried 03jun20 SHJ-ATH prior freighter conversion ex A6-EBB



1st 777-300 freighter ...???
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:13 pm

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danipawa wrote:
Boeing 777 -36N 32789 508 OE-IHW GECAS ferried 03jun20 SHJ-ATH prior freighter conversion ex A6-EBB



1st 777-300 freighter ...???


Yes. It will be the first 777-300F.
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:36 pm

audidudi wrote:
Latest movements (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Boeing 777-212 32318 441 VP-BYW Standard Chartered Aviation Finance ferried 21 May 2020 KUL-SEA, ex 9M-FGB
Boeing 777F 65421 1649 B-20EM China Southern delivery 22 May 2020 PAE-CAN ex N875BA
Boeing 777F 65422 1650 B-20EN China Southern delivery 22 May 2020 PAE-CAN ex N877BA


A friendly reminder: this thread is about 777 retirements and scrappings, not about new planes or young ones changing hands. There is another topic dealing with that.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:45 am

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4
Another ANA 777 has been ferried to the scrappers at San Bernadino, and another SQ 777 to the boneyards of Southwestern-USA.

Two more 777s have been reported as scrapped:
ln.91 (originally A6-EMJ of Emirates) and ln. 237 (9V-SQH of SQ) had lastly been operated by defunct VIM Airlines until 2017.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:06 pm

Seems like a Russian registration is a kiss of death for 777s.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:45 pm

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Seems like a Russian registration is a kiss of death for 777s.


In case of VIM's planes, they were actually registered in Bermuda. Might be a minor point, but if they were on Russian registry, their survival would be even less probable, due to a need for a bridging check.
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:58 pm

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A friendly reminder: this thread is about 777 retirements and scrappings, not about new planes or young ones changing hands. There is another topic dealing with that.


I don't see the issue. Whenever a 10+ widebody leaves the fleet of its original operator you can't always be sure if it's going into refit, long-term storage or being scrapped. Hence the existence of these threads to report on such movements.
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:14 pm

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na wrote:
A friendly reminder: this thread is about 777 retirements and scrappings, not about new planes or young ones changing hands. There is another topic dealing with that.


I don't see the issue. Whenever a 10+ widebody leaves the fleet of its original operator you can't always be sure if it's going into refit, long-term storage or being scrapped. Hence the existence of these threads to report on such movements.


2/3 of the reported flights were delivery flights, so that doesn't hold up.

This is a retirement/scrapping thread, you're more than welcome to start your own activity thread if you wish.
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:20 pm

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Seems like a Russian registration is a kiss of death for 777s.

All the Transero ones got scrapped despite not being that old. Probably poorly maintained.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:50 am

Latest movement (courtesy of skyliner-avaition.de):

Boeing 777-281 27036 141 JA706A ANA All Nippon Airways ferried 16 June 2020 HND-ANC-SBD, for part-out & scrap
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:32 am

UA444 wrote:
KFTG wrote:
Seems like a Russian registration is a kiss of death for 777s.

All the Transero ones got scrapped despite not being that old. Probably poorly maintained.

Not entirely, their 773s are still flying :stirthepot: :stirthepot: And with 772A and 772ERs having a poor resale value for a couple years already, I'm not surprised honestly

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:16 pm

All 777s of NokScoot have been retired and ferried for storage.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:08 pm

Just for clarity, post production/delivery related flights here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1437927

We have several retirement/scrapping threads and these threads are for removal from service.
For the 777-300ERSF related items, as planes going for conversion are not retired, post here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1433187

For Aircraft Lease/Values:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1440991

Although, by all means, feel free to discuss here how the Covid19 drop in values is increasing 777 retirements.

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:56 pm

Thank you.

It will be interesting to see wether, or better, when the Covid-19-crisis leads to the retirement of the first 77W frames. The 10 ex-Jet Aw 77Ws are standing around since more than 12 months now, and that in less than favourable condition,

It looks like Thai Aw. might retire their small 773-fleet after phasing out the 772. KE, ANA and JAL also have some aging 773 which did a lot of shorthaul flying. Will the announced fleet reductions of BA, AF, AA and UA lead to retirements in their 77E fleets? I would be surprised if not as parts of these fleets are getting old also.
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:43 pm

na wrote:
Thank you.

It will be interesting to see wether, or better, when the Covid-19-crisis leads to the retirement of the first 77W frames. The 10 ex-Jet Aw 77Ws are standing around since more than 12 months now, and that in less than favourable condition,

It looks like Thai Aw. might retire their small 773-fleet after phasing out the 772. KE, ANA and JAL also have some aging 773 which did a lot of shorthaul flying. Will the announced fleet reductions of BA, AF, AA and UA lead to retirements in their 77E fleets? I would be surprised if not as parts of these fleets are getting old also.

TG is already in the process of removing 772As from the fleet - I can only assume the pandemic will speed up the process.

KE was also removing some 772ERs but most went to Jin Air (a subsidiary in any case) before the pandemic.

JAL was doing the same for domestic 777s - replacing with A359s and sometimes with nothing (just shrink the fleet).

For ANA, not sure what will draw down the 772s but I believe 773s will be replaced by 787-10s ordered recently (which they said will be in domestic config).

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:38 pm

ex-Jet Airways VT-JEQ (35161) ferried from San Bernadino to Greenwood yesterday. Don't see much of a future there.
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:06 am

eamondzhang wrote:
na wrote:
Thank you.

It will be interesting to see wether, or better, when the Covid-19-crisis leads to the retirement of the first 77W frames. The 10 ex-Jet Aw 77Ws are standing around since more than 12 months now, and that in less than favourable condition,

It looks like Thai Aw. might retire their small 773-fleet after phasing out the 772. KE, ANA and JAL also have some aging 773 which did a lot of shorthaul flying. Will the announced fleet reductions of BA, AF, AA and UA lead to retirements in their 77E fleets? I would be surprised if not as parts of these fleets are getting old also.

TG is already in the process of removing 772As from the fleet - I can only assume the pandemic will speed up the process.

KE was also removing some 772ERs but most went to Jin Air (a subsidiary in any case) before the pandemic.

JAL was doing the same for domestic 777s - replacing with A359s and sometimes with nothing (just shrink the fleet).

For ANA, not sure what will draw down the 772s but I believe 773s will be replaced by 787-10s ordered recently (which they said will be in domestic config).

Michael

IIRC TG has already completely phased out its 772A fleet already.
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am

JAL 777-200ER JA704J flew HND-VCV 6:36PM - 12:07PM as JL8132 for retirement.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JA704J
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:46 am

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JAL 777-200ER JA704J flew HND-VCV 6:36PM - 12:07PM as JL8132 for retirement.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JA704J


Was this retirement already planned for this year?
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:55 am

Ishrion wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
JAL 777-200ER JA704J flew HND-VCV 6:36PM - 12:07PM as JL8132 for retirement.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JA704J


Was this retirement already planned for this year?


I don't know, sorry. I just checked VCV inbounds this morning and saw this on the arrival boards. I think that they may slowly be phasing the 777s out eventually as 7 772/773 have been retired over the past years. Side note, this is the first JAL 772 at VCV.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:04 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
JAL 777-200ER JA704J flew HND-VCV 6:36PM - 12:07PM as JL8132 for retirement.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JA704J


Was this retirement already planned for this year?


I don't know, sorry. I just checked VCV inbounds this morning and saw this on the arrival boards. I think that they may slowly be phasing the 777s out eventually as 7 772/773 have been retired over the past years. Side note, this is the first JAL 772 at VCV.

Don't believe so given JAL just refitted their entire 777-200ER fleet last year.

Must be a post-Covid change.

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Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:07 am

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VCVSpotter wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

Was this retirement already planned for this year?


I don't know, sorry. I just checked VCV inbounds this morning and saw this on the arrival boards. I think that they may slowly be phasing the 777s out eventually as 7 772/773 have been retired over the past years. Side note, this is the first JAL 772 at VCV.

Don't believe so given JAL just refitted their entire 777-200ER fleet last year.

Must be a post-Covid change.

Michael


Oh ok then yeah it probably is a post-COVID change. Amazing how so many re-fits (QF A380/DL 77L/JL 772) all happened just a short while ago and now they're all going into storage/retirement.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:20 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:

I don't know, sorry. I just checked VCV inbounds this morning and saw this on the arrival boards. I think that they may slowly be phasing the 777s out eventually as 7 772/773 have been retired over the past years. Side note, this is the first JAL 772 at VCV.

Don't believe so given JAL just refitted their entire 777-200ER fleet last year.

Must be a post-Covid change.

Michael


Oh ok then yeah it probably is a post-COVID change. Amazing how so many re-fits (QF A380/DL 77L/JL 772) all happened just a short while ago and now they're all going into storage/retirement.


It was a non ER.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:28 am

thgsr08 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Don't believe so given JAL just refitted their entire 777-200ER fleet last year.

Must be a post-Covid change.

Michael


Oh ok then yeah it probably is a post-COVID change. Amazing how so many re-fits (QF A380/DL 77L/JL 772) all happened just a short while ago and now they're all going into storage/retirement.


It was a non ER.

JA704J is very much a 777-200ER. Just do a quick rego search on this site or Google.

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Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:07 am

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ex-Jet Airways VT-JEQ (35161) ferried from San Bernadino to Greenwood yesterday. Don't see much of a future there.


This would be the first 77W to be scrapped then. Greenwood is a place known for no retired airliner is leaving again.
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:42 pm

We have known for years that there would be a fairly large number of fairly young 77Ws coming off lease in the next few years, but the prospects were good (pre COVID) that they would find new operators. They are not as efficient as the 787s and A350s now coming off the assembly lines, but are still efficient, oil prices are low, and they can be had for much less money. But everything is now changed. And large planes are particularly not in demand. So will we see some 12 to 15 year old 77Ws head to the scrappers? Or will the owners hold out until the market recovers?
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:04 pm

SEPilot wrote:
We have known for years that there would be a fairly large number of fairly young 77Ws coming off lease in the next few years, but the prospects were good (pre COVID) that they would find new operators. They are not as efficient as the 787s and A350s now coming off the assembly lines, but are still efficient, oil prices are low, and they can be had for much less money. But everything is now changed. And large planes are particularly not in demand. So will we see some 12 to 15 year old 77Ws head to the scrappers? Or will the owners hold out until the market recovers?

In January, I would have bet any maintained with good paper 77W would find a new home.

The 777-300ERSF will soak up some of the surplus, but with QR, EK, and EY expected to replace their older 77L/77W, I think the available supply will exceed demand for too long. Sadly, we will see a good quantity of widebodies scrapped, including 77Ws.

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I pasted this in the aircraft Lease/Values thread:

https://leehamnews.com/2020/06/30/hotr-values-plunge/

The oldest 77Ws lost a third of their value due to Covid19. I expect the slide to continue. Suddenly there is a business case for scrappers to buy 77Ws. :cry2:
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:09 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
thgsr08 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:

Oh ok then yeah it probably is a post-COVID change. Amazing how so many re-fits (QF A380/DL 77L/JL 772) all happened just a short while ago and now they're all going into storage/retirement.


It was a non ER.

JA704J is very much a 777-200ER. Just do a quick rego search on this site or Google.

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:12 am

 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:51 am

Any more info to that...?
Reason for the reject.?
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:10 pm

na wrote:
https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4

Air Atlanta rejects former EK 77W.



Skyliner link indicates the frame was simply Not Taken Up. What data lead you to the conclusion the frame was rejected––which implies ABD is still in the market for a 77W––but this particular frame was inadequate in some way?

Thanks,

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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:37 pm

gabep wrote:
na wrote:
https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4

Air Atlanta rejects former EK 77W.



Skyliner link indicates the frame was simply Not Taken Up. What data lead you to the conclusion the frame was rejected––which implies ABD is still in the market for a 77W––but this particular frame was inadequate in some way?

Thanks,

Gabep

I expect the fact that the oldest 777-300ER values dropped 33% had more to do with the NTU than anything else.

Sadly, Airlines will be offered a much better deal to buy if they wait a few months.
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:39 am

Anyone knows which 77A/Es UA and AA are retiring due to Corona?
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:51 am

na wrote:
Anyone knows which 77A/Es UA and AA are retiring due to Corona?


At the moment, American doesn’t plan to accelerate any 777-200ER retirements. The current plan is to begin retiring some once the new batch of 787-9s arrive in 2023.
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:37 pm

Ishrion wrote:
na wrote:
Anyone knows which 77A/Es UA and AA are retiring due to Corona?


At the moment, American doesn’t plan to accelerate any 777-200ER retirements. The current plan is to begin retiring some once the new batch of 787-9s arrive in 2023.


So no considerable shrinking of the longhaul fleet is planned?
 
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Re: 777 Retirement/Scrapping Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:37 pm

An ET B772F caught fire whilst on the ground at PVG on July 22, and is obviously a write-off:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4da46e92&opt=0

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