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Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:22 pm
by davidjohnson6
BAY = IATA code for Baia Mare airport
https://www.iata.org/en/publications/di ... search=BAY

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:30 pm
by debonair
davidjohnson6 wrote:
BAY = IATA code for Baia Mare airport
https://www.iata.org/en/publications/di ... search=BAY


Thank you... Never heard of this place b4, good to learn everyday something new...

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:52 pm
by BoardingPass
BAY = Baia Mare

also, BLA might announce some new routes from BAY, to BVA and TRN (nothing official yet) and is considering closing IAS base from S21 (S21 schedule was published on their booking system but there are no routes to/from IAS available).

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:12 am
by lyngbyvej
BoardingPass wrote:

is considering closing IAS base from S21 (S21 schedule was published on their booking system but there are no routes to/from IAS available).


That's a bad news for me personally. I fly often on the route BRU-IAS and the planes are - except for the current period of course - full.

Is it linked to the upgrade of BCM and BLA return there and the fact that - to large extent - it is the same catchment area?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:29 pm
by debonair
BoardingPass wrote:
they have applied for AOC in RO for HiSky Europe company.

If they do not receive the AOC in MD, then will operate for the beginning flights from IAS. Their first aircraft (currently OE-IAH) will be ferried to IAS on August 14 and will wear temporarly YR- reg


Hi, any updates? Was the aircraft delivered and taken up?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:16 am
by BoardingPass
lyngbyvej wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:

is considering closing IAS base from S21 (S21 schedule was published on their booking system but there are no routes to/from IAS available).


That's a bad news for me personally. I fly often on the route BRU-IAS and the planes are - except for the current period of course - full.

Is it linked to the upgrade of BCM and BLA return there and the fact that - to large extent - it is the same catchment area?


there are some old dating conflicts between BLA and IAS airport for unpaid debts and I think they want to show to IAS airport that BLA will move its ops to another airports in the region if no discounts and other financial facilities will be provided.


debonair wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
they have applied for AOC in RO for HiSky Europe company.

If they do not receive the AOC in MD, then will operate for the beginning flights from IAS. Their first aircraft (currently OE-IAH) will be ferried to IAS on August 14 and will wear temporarly YR- reg


Hi, any updates? Was the aircraft delivered and taken up?

Wasnt delivered yet, afaik they have some issues with one of the aircraft engines, ac is yet at Ostrava airport.

OMR is ready to offer incentives to airlines for routes to/from OMR, read more.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:55 pm
by davidjohnson6
There's no need for any subsidy between Oradea and Bucharest.
However, Ryanair couldn't manage to make any money out of a very low frequency route between Oradea and London in 2018 - to achieve a suitable load factor the yield had to be rock bottom. I have a feeling that the subsidy needed will be large to see any new scheduled routes...

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:32 pm
by BoardingPass
The subsidy wont apply to OMR - OTP, i think, but for new international routes and if there are subsidies airlines care a little less about yelds (total up to 1mil EUR but up to 800k EUR/airline)

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:30 am
by Blerg
BoardingPass wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
Blue Air will launch 5 new routes in S21 from OTP:
- OTP - ATH (1x daily);
- OTP - BRI (3x weekly);
- OTP - MUC (1x daily);
- OTP - PRG (5x weekly);
- OTP - VIE (2x daily from Monday to Friday and 1x daily on Saturday and Sunday).

Schedule: https://bpne.ws/Jebe


from March 2021 LCA base will be closed, the only Blue Air routes to LCA will be from OTP and BCM.


I guess that means they will discontinue LCA-ATH/SKG. Competition from Wizz Air probably killed this base. This is the second time they failed in Cyprus, I guess this time they are leaving for good.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:33 pm
by BoardingPass
from 01OCT20 BLA will move some flights from IAS to BCM:
Iași - Koln - Koln (zboruri 0B6821 + 0B6822) / Monday;
Iași - Munchen - Iași (zboruri 0B6885 + 0B6886) / Tuesday;
Iași - Luton - Iași (zboruri 0B6831 + 0B6832) / Friday, Sunday;
Iași - Bruxelles - Iași (zboruri 0B6823 + 0B6824) / Saturday;
Iași - Torino - Iași (zboruri 0B6801 + 0B6802) / Wednesday.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:34 pm
by BoardingPass
YR-LCA and YR-LCB, ex-TAROM A310s joined Iran Airtour fleet as EP-MDK and EP-MDL. Initially TAROM sold both aircraft to Armenian Airways Aircompany for 5.5mil USD in 2018.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:43 pm
by debonair
HiSky now removed online the sale of tickets for September... Prices for October are now well over 100Euro, seems they have lost trust to start operations anytime soon. And many destinations are no longer listed or bookable - wonder what they will do with 3 A320 family a/c. :scratchchin:

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:03 am
by BoardingPass
TC-NBC (A320neo Pegasus) is the very first aircraft which arrived at the brand new Aerostar hangar in Iași for mx.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:51 pm
by BoardingPass
BoardingPass wrote:
from March 2021 LCA base will be closed, the only Blue Air routes to LCA will be from OTP and BCM.


Blue Air is officially closing its LCA base on 15SEPT.

OTP-LCA route will continue to be operated until 18OCT (1x weekly - Sunday)

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:41 pm
by lyngbyvej
BoardingPass wrote:
from 01OCT20 BLA will move some flights from IAS to BCM:
Iași - Koln - Koln (zboruri 0B6821 + 0B6822) / Monday;
Iași - Munchen - Iași (zboruri 0B6885 + 0B6886) / Tuesday;
Iași - Luton - Iași (zboruri 0B6831 + 0B6832) / Friday, Sunday;
Iași - Bruxelles - Iași (zboruri 0B6823 + 0B6824) / Saturday;
Iași - Torino - Iași (zboruri 0B6801 + 0B6802) / Wednesday.


Does it mean that they divide the same number of flights between two airports? For instance, will BRU stay in IAS on Wednesday and move to BMC on Saturdays?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:59 pm
by factsonly
Blue Air has delayed the launch of its new daily OTP-AMS route from September 4th, to October 8th, 2020.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:44 am
by Blerg
BoardingPass wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
from March 2021 LCA base will be closed, the only Blue Air routes to LCA will be from OTP and BCM.


Blue Air is officially closing its LCA base on 15SEPT.

OTP-LCA route will continue to be operated until 18OCT (1x weekly - Sunday)


What about other destinations from Romania they operate? Are those also being terminated?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:11 pm
by BoardingPass
Blerg wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
from March 2021 LCA base will be closed, the only Blue Air routes to LCA will be from OTP and BCM.


Blue Air is officially closing its LCA base on 15SEPT.

OTP-LCA route will continue to be operated until 18OCT (1x weekly - Sunday)


What about other destinations from Romania they operate? Are those also being terminated?


BLA doesn't fly to LCA from other Romanian airports, only from OTP.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:46 pm
by BoardingPass
YR-BMR was ferried on Friday from BBU to OTP and will operate its first flight for BLA on Sunday, to OMR. The aircraft is still wearing Jet Time livery and might be the first NG to be painted into the new BLA livery.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:19 am
by BoardingPass
Luxair will fly from 30NOV between LUX and OTP, 2x weekly (2,4)

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:40 am
by SeanM1997
Wizz Air resuming Cluj-Liverpool from 23 October 2020 - 2x weekly flights

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:31 am
by BoardingPass
Omni Air's B763 N423AX will be repaired at Romaero by American engineers. On Tuesday evening the aircraft was towed into one of Romaero's hangars.

Details about its accident: avherald

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(C) BoardingPass

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11 am
by BoardingPass
easyJet will operate from S21 flights between MXP and OTP. Frequency and schedule is currently unknown.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:40 pm
by SeanM1997
Wizz Air to launch London Luton - Bacau from 1 October instead of 29 October 2020. Route initially is 5x weekly on Wizz Air UK before going daily from Bacau base instead

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:14 pm
by BoardingPass
SeanM1997 wrote:
Wizz Air resuming Cluj-Liverpool from 23 October 2020 - 2x weekly flights


haha, marketed as „new route”... they forgot that wzz operated this route from oct 2018 as well.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:06 pm
by BoardingPass
HiSky's first aircraft will be registered in Romania as YR-SKY. It is currently stored at OSR, waiting for AOC...

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:10 am
by BoardingPass
Lumiwings will operate daily flights from Forli airport (Italy) to Romania, Czech Republic, Poland and Ukraine from December 2020. More details will be announced soon.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:00 pm
by BoardingPass
BoardingPass wrote:
New route from Blue Air: OTP - BAY from 13SEPT (1357)

+ BAY - LTN and BAY - TRN, not announced yet - schedule unknown.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:55 pm
by davidjohnson6
Apart from Arad and Oradea, is there any airport which sees scheduled airline passenger traffic on a route at least 1x weekly and which has *not* got (or soon to have) a route to London ?
No, I'm not including Baneasa as it's closed to scheduled airline pax flights

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 pm
by BoardingPass
haha, nope, but OMR might get soon a route to LON as well =)

Currently there are 11 Romanian airports with flights to/from LON and only 9 which have flights to/from OTP :D

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:57 am
by BoardingPass
Ryanair will be back at OMR. From December 2020 it will fly to:
- Londra Stansted (from 04DEC, x26);
- Bergamo (from 04DEC, x15);
- Bologna (from 03DEC, x14);
- Dusseldorf Weeze (from 04DEC, x15).

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:27 am
by davidjohnson6
London-Oradea had lousy yields in 2018. What makes it different now ?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:51 am
by BoardingPass
800keur subsidies for 1st year of ops. probably theyll drop the routes again after they get the money - typical business for RYR.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:31 pm
by BoardingPass
BoardingPass wrote:
800keur subsidies for 1st year of ops. probably theyll drop the routes again after they get the money - typical business for RYR.


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Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:02 pm
by albertocsc
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Apart from Arad and Oradea, is there any airport which sees scheduled airline passenger traffic on a route at least 1x weekly and which has *not* got (or soon to have) a route to London ?
No, I'm not including Baneasa as it's closed to scheduled airline pax flights


With the recent addition of Oradea, I would say now there is only Arad and Tulcea* left.

* I know the airport hasn't seen any scheduled operations for a long time, only sporadical charters (Switzerland, Austria and France), but the Tulcea County administration has been trying for at least a year to get scheduled service to London, Madrid, Barcelona, Frankfurt, Paris and Milan.
Also just across the Danube from Tulcea, Odessa Oblast administration is working in the rehabilitation of the Izmail Airport for 2021 or 2022, so soon we might seen two airports competing for the same catchment area, taking into account that finally a RO-UA border crossing point was opened in the area last month (Isaccea-Orlivka ferry).

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:49 pm
by davidjohnson6
Does Tulcea airport have enough people living nearby (and not near Constanta, Chisinau or Odesa) to support commercial passenger flights ? Their adverts on anna.aero have been running for a lont long time...

I'm dubious that there is a need for Izmail airport right now

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:03 pm
by albertocsc
Tulcea itself is not that highly populated, but there are a lot of car and minivan shuttle services from the county to Otopeni so I can see some demand there. Also, at the moment, the Danube Delta and its boat tours have quite a lot of potential with tourism, but it's already covered by the occasional charters.

In any case, I can see that starting scheduled service from Tulcea, combined with better communications with Galați and Brăila, like the often proposed bridge, can attract fliers from these two cities without needing to build an all-new airport in Brăila, as some Romanian politicians propose.

Regarding Izmail, I think the plan is to rebuild it and start some regional connections to Kyiv and Odessa, as rail and road connections are not good in the area, but in my opinion it would be better to improve cross-border collaboration and concentrate all possible operations in one airport. But, so far, relations between Romania and Ukraine have never been the best so I doubt this would be possible at the moment.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:07 am
by Blerg
Anyone know what international flights RO operates at the moment? Also how many new ATRs have they received so far?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:57 pm
by debonair
BoardingPass wrote:
HiSky's first aircraft will be registered in Romania as YR-SKY. It is currently stored at OSR, waiting for AOC...

HiSky is no longer selling tickets on their web page, so what's the status?! What happend to their fleet?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:32 pm
by BoardingPass
Blerg wrote:
Anyone know what international flights RO operates at the moment? Also how many new ATRs have they received so far?

they have received only 4 ATR 72-600 so far.

Not sure about their int schedule, but definitely only a few routes operated currently: ATH, SKG, AMS, CDG, MUC, IST, LHR, CAI, BRU, MAD, BCN and some (many) charters to GR and TR

debonair wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
HiSky's first aircraft will be registered in Romania as YR-SKY. It is currently stored at OSR, waiting for AOC...

HiSky is no longer selling tickets on their web page, so what's the status?! What happend to their fleet?

Status: unknown... but they are still waiting for the AOC here in Romania. Also, the 2nd aircraft was ferried a few days ago from SNN to LJU, is being prepared for delivery.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:49 am
by Blerg
BoardingPass wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Anyone know what international flights RO operates at the moment? Also how many new ATRs have they received so far?

they have received only 4 ATR 72-600 so far.

Not sure about their int schedule, but definitely only a few routes operated currently: ATH, SKG, AMS, CDG, MUC, IST, LHR, CAI, BRU, MAD, BCN and some (many) charters to GR and TR

debonair wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
HiSky's first aircraft will be registered in Romania as YR-SKY. It is currently stored at OSR, waiting for AOC...

HiSky is no longer selling tickets on their web page, so what's the status?! What happend to their fleet?

Status: unknown... but they are still waiting for the AOC here in Romania. Also, the 2nd aircraft was ferried a few days ago from SNN to LJU, is being prepared for delivery.


Cairo is interesting, are they operating it for transfer passengers or...?

I guess loads must be pretty weak at the moment. The other day I was on FR24 and noticed that they sent the ATR to Vienna.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:29 pm
by BoardingPass
New Blue Air routes from OTP in S21: to RHO, ZTH, HER and OLB. All of them are 2x weekly - except from HER which will start on 15 May, the rest of them are debuting at the beginning of June 2021.

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Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:19 pm
by BoardingPass
EZY route from MXP to OTP will be launched on 23 April, 2020. 7x weekly

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:46 pm
by BoardingPass
YR-BAS and YR-BAZ left BLA fleet today. Will be ferried to the US for freighter conversion (possibly for West Atlantic - they will check the aircraft at EMA).

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:52 am
by BoardingPass
BCM - CLJ which supposed to start this fall is canx until at least S21.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:50 am
by Blerg
BoardingPass wrote:
BCM - CLJ which supposed to start this fall is canx until at least S21.


Who was supposed to operate that? RO?

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:30 pm
by BoardingPass
Blerg wrote:
BoardingPass wrote:
BCM - CLJ which supposed to start this fall is canx until at least S21.

Who was supposed to operate that? RO?


Blue Air

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:08 pm
by ROT371
BoardingPass wrote:
EZY route from MXP to OTP will be launched on 23 April, 2020. 7x weekly


Operating with A319 by the looks of the online booking system, though no seat showing occupied yet on the 10 flights I looked at. Hope this is not a bad sign, I think their service is way better than Ryanair but similar to Wizz so would be great to see them flying to OTP or CLJ ex UK in the future as well.

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:26 pm
by davidjohnson6
Easyjet have tried LGW-OTP but in a crowded market they dropped the route in March 2015. I imagine they would need a good reason (e.g. Blue Air pulling out or going bust) before trying UK- Romania routes again

Re: Romanian Aviation Thread - 2020

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:59 am
by BoardingPass
Some interesting insights about WZZ performance in Romania: https://bpne.ws/LSFo