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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:45 am

Seems that D-ABVR, D-ABVT and D-ABVU will be next to leave the LH fleet and make their final journeys from FRA to LDE next week.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:44 am

DABYT wrote:
Seems that D-ABVR, D-ABVT and D-ABVU will be next to leave the LH fleet and make their final journeys from FRA to LDE next week.


Are these part of the 5 announced retirements from April? VR, VT, VU, VO and TL?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:51 am

BMWE38Guy wrote:
DABYT wrote:
Seems that D-ABVR, D-ABVT and D-ABVU will be next to leave the LH fleet and make their final journeys from FRA to LDE next week.


Are these part of the 5 announced retirements from April? VR, VT, VU, VO and TL?


No, the 5 announced retirements in April would have been VO, VP, VR, VS and VT. All the other 744 were planned to stay, but in April 3 A343 were planned to leave, which isn't the case anymore from what I heard, so could be that the decision is to keep 3 A343 instead of 3 744 for the time being.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:05 am

workhorse wrote:
kaloair wrote:
danipawa wrote:
Boeing 747 -422 26880 984 F-HSUN Corsair International ferried 09jun20 ORY-EGBP,for part-out & scrap ex F-WSUN

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3


F-HSEA today and the last Corsair 744 F-GTUI for the 15 June....

https://www.aeroport-paris-orly.com/corsair-et-les-747


Oh, no. I was hoping until the last moment they would keep at least one until the next year. I was even ready to book a return trip to RUN any time just to have a last flight on the 744.

Stupid move, IMHO. How are they going to fly their schedule when French Overseas traffic picks up?


They will received a new A330-300 F-HROK (ex Aeroflot) in few weeks and 2 Airbus A330-900 in 2021
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:45 am

Virgin Atlantic G-VLIP currently on route from Manchester to Ciudad Real. Earlier LH 747 flew to LDE and Corsair 747 preparing to depart for EGBP.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:21 pm

DABYT wrote:
Seems that D-ABVR, D-ABVT and D-ABVU will be next to leave the LH fleet and make their final journeys from FRA to LDE next week.


What does that leave LH with? Other than BOS-FRA, is there any other why to catch a LH 747 from the USA over the next few weeks (current EU travel restrictions notwithstanding).
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:59 pm

D-ABVU has been ferried to LDE today
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:13 pm

akelley728 wrote:
DABYT wrote:
Seems that D-ABVR, D-ABVT and D-ABVU will be next to leave the LH fleet and make their final journeys from FRA to LDE next week.


What does that leave LH with? Other than BOS-FRA, is there any other why to catch a LH 747 from the USA over the next few weeks (current EU travel restrictions notwithstanding).


If you’re specifically looking for a LH 744 ride from the US there’s none at the moment. I have no knowledge which route will be operated by a 744 in the next weeks.
You could go on a 748 from ORD to FRA though...
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:14 pm

Video of the last landing of F-GTUI at Kemble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVHNCjfd8w
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:10 am

Qantas 747-400ER VH-OEE on the first leg of her trip to the desert: SYD-LAX as QF6001. Currently taxiing out to the runway at SYD. As mentioned before, she will depart LAX for MHV as QF6001 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 at 9:30AM local time. Note, VH-OEE was the first 747-400ER, wearing test registration N747ER before starting her life at Qantas.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oee
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:44 am

D-ABVT on its way to LDE for retirement

https://fr24.com/DLH9912/24b7c13e
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:02 pm

Boeing 747 -422 26875 931 F-GTUI Corsair International ferried 15jun20 ORY-EGBP,for part-out & scrap ex N186UA
Boeing 747 -422 26877 944 F-HSEA Corsair International ferried 12jun20 ORY-EGBP,for part-out & scrap ex F-WSEA
Boeing 747 -436 27090 959 G-BNLY British Airways ferried 15jun20 BOH-CWL after storage
Boeing 747 -430 28287 1110 D-ABVT Lufthansa ferried 17jun20 FRA-LDE for onward storage
Boeing 747 -4H6 28426 1130 TF-AAD Air Atlanta Icelandic ferried 17jun20 LGG-EGBP, for part-out & scrap ex HZ-AWA2
Boeing 747 -4F6 28959 1158 ER-BAC Terra Avia ferried 17jun20 CGK-CAN, basic Flynas cs, Fly titl x 9M-AZB
Boeing 747 -430 29492 1191 D-ABVU Lufthansa ferried 15jun20 FRA-LDE for onward storage
Boeing 747 -443 32338 1274 G-VLIP Virgin Atlantic Airways ferried 15jun20 MAN-CQM for onward storage
Boeing 747 ‑438ER 32909 1308 VH-OEE Qantas ferried 16-17jun20 SYD-LAX-MHV, for part-out & scrap

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:48 pm

According to a BA 747 skipper, BA suspending all training activities for the 747 from today on, so they could be the next carrier to retire the remaining 747 fleet.

source: https://twitter.com/Tim_the_Pilot/statu ... 80416?s=20
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:52 pm

BA has many 747 markets, so it would be interesting to know which markets they will be dropping from their route map for the time being.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:20 pm

BusBlitz wrote:
BA has many 747 markets, so it would be interesting to know which markets they will be dropping from their route map for the time being.


There don't seem to be any BA 747s in the air right now, so I don't think they'll be 'dropping' anything they haven't dropped already, since any remaining routes have already been downsized.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:31 pm

VCVSpotter wrote:
Qantas 747-400ER VH-OEE on the first leg of her trip to the desert: SYD-LAX as QF6001. Currently taxiing out to the runway at SYD. As mentioned before, she will depart LAX for MHV as QF6001 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 at 9:30AM local time. Note, VH-OEE was the first 747-400ER, wearing test registration N747ER before starting her life at Qantas.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oee

If only we could save sister aircraft OEJ and repaint it into the famous red colour it used to wear.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:46 pm

There's a BA 747 pilot on Twitter claiming that BA has shutdown the recurrent training pipeline for the 744.

That doesn't bode well.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:50 am

Good move.
Wouldn't want to get a fever.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:31 am

Pictures of G-VBIG scrapping in the Daily Mail. Looks like they will be making skin tags for all those Disney World vloggers who want a piece of “Tinker Belle.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8320419/Death-747-Iconic-Boeing-jet-dismantled-scrap.html

http://blog.virginatlantic.com/tinker-belle-retires-saying-bye-bye-to-g-vbig/
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:00 pm

British Airways 744 G-BYGC in BOAC retro livery has positioned LHR-CWL today

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https://twitter.com/CardiffOTT/status/1 ... 07265?s=20
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:40 pm

Any idea how much life is left in Dubai Air Wing's A6-COM and A6-HMM. Flying as VIP planes maybe fairly endless?
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:13 pm

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:22 pm

qf789 wrote:
British Airways 744 G-BYGC in BOAC retro livery has positioned LHR-CWL today

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https://twitter.com/CardiffOTT/status/1 ... 07265?s=20


Glad I saw her on the way into Cardiff on Saturday, but even more glad I got to fly her last year!
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:26 pm

Five BA examples crammed in alongside the hangars at LHR.

https://youtu.be/TeleNw81gcY
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:42 pm

aristoenigma wrote:
Any idea how much life is left in Dubai Air Wing's A6-COM and A6-HMM. Flying as VIP planes maybe fairly endless?


They will have accumulated few hours and cycles since joining the fleet, that's for sure. Their continued survival is more dependent on how much their owner wants to keep these particular toys.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:04 am

D-ABVR is on her way from FRA to LDE now

https://fr24.com/DLH9924/24c772c4
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:29 am

PH-BFV operating KL886 HKG-AMS today (27/06/20). such a great sigh to see her lining up here. I'll miss you
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:52 am

29/06 - KL bringing another grand old lady to retirement AMS - ORD - MHV

KL9871/KLM747 B747-406 PH-BFY final departure from Schiphol. Final destination is Mojave, CA (via Chicago). STD 08:55.


Source: https://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=151982
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:21 am

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PH-BFV operating KL886 HKG-AMS today (27/06/20). such a great sigh to see her lining up here. I'll miss you


KLM has temporarily introduced a 2nd frequency AMS-HKG-AMS with B747-400Combi 5x weekly, this flight 2hrs ahead of its daily B789 service.

KL885/KL886 B74E + KL887/KL888 B789.

KL now operates B74E in all-cargo operations to HKG, PEK, PVG, SEL.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/kl885
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:16 pm

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
29/06 - KL bringing another grand old lady to retirement AMS - ORD - MHV

KL9871/KLM747 B747-406 PH-BFY final departure from Schiphol. Final destination is Mojave, CA (via Chicago). STD 08:55.


Source: https://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=151982


Yup, I'll be there for the final arrival, might be the last chance I have to see a KLM 747 :crying: I don't believe that anyone knows the retirement plans of the 2 left (BFL/BFN) and the 3 in cargo ops (BFT/BFV/BFW)....?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:50 pm

aristoenigma wrote:
Any idea how much life is left in Dubai Air Wing's A6-COM and A6-HMM. Flying as VIP planes maybe fairly endless?

Aren’t these former N108UA and N109UA? 747-422
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:57 pm

UA444 wrote:
aristoenigma wrote:
Any idea how much life is left in Dubai Air Wing's A6-COM and A6-HMM. Flying as VIP planes maybe fairly endless?

Aren’t these former N108UA and N109UA? 747-422

Dubai Air Wing flies those former UA 744 PAX as A6-MMM and A6-HRM as VIPs. A6-COM (former Air Canada) and A6-HMM (former Air Namibia) are both 744 Combis now flying as VIPs for Dubai Air Wing.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:11 am

aristoenigma wrote:
UA444 wrote:
aristoenigma wrote:
Any idea how much life is left in Dubai Air Wing's A6-COM and A6-HMM. Flying as VIP planes maybe fairly endless?

Aren’t these former N108UA and N109UA? 747-422

Dubai Air Wing flies those former UA 744 PAX as A6-MMM and A6-HRM as VIPs. A6-COM (former Air Canada) and A6-HMM (former Air Namibia) are both 744 Combis now flying as VIPs for Dubai Air Wing.

Interesting. I knew they had the two 747-422 and the AC 747-433M, but not the 4th

I wonder if these will some day wind up at Sand’s Corporation.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:36 am

factsonly wrote:
blandy62 wrote:
PH-BFV operating KL886 HKG-AMS today (27/06/20). such a great sigh to see her lining up here. I'll miss you


KLM has temporarily introduced a 2nd frequency AMS-HKG-AMS with B747-400Combi 5x weekly, this flight 2hrs ahead of its daily B789 service.

KL885/KL886 B74E + KL887/KL888 B789.

KL now operates B74E in all-cargo operations to HKG, PEK, PVG, SEL.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/kl885

IIRC Seoul is only used for crew change for the PEK and PVG flights (AMS-ICN-PEK/PVG-AMS)
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:46 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
FlyingHonu001 wrote:
29/06 - KL bringing another grand old lady to retirement AMS - ORD - MHV

KL9871/KLM747 B747-406 PH-BFY final departure from Schiphol. Final destination is Mojave, CA (via Chicago). STD 08:55.


Source: https://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=151982


Yup, I'll be there for the final arrival, might be the last chance I have to see a KLM 747 :crying: I don't believe that anyone knows the retirement plans of the 2 left (BFL/BFN) and the 3 in cargo ops (BFT/BFV/BFW)....?


PH-BFY currently leaving her homebase for the last time with KL747. Follow her here now

https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com/?icao=484175
https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM747
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:22 am

Lufthansa D-ABTK on her way to Enschede: https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH9922/24cf076e
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:04 am

Here are some photos of KLM 747-400M PH-BFY landing at MHV today one last time. While on approach, PH-BFY made several corrections and pitched the nose down hard making for some very interesting pictures. The first is mine, while the second and third are from other spotters.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCCM7vyhXP2/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCCsYdkhf1h/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCCdTs2B22v/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:44 am

http://thebasource.com/covid-fleet-watch/
https://siteapps.caa.co.uk/g-info/

Two more taken off the BA Source listing.

G-CIVG is down at St Athan and was de reg in April. It went to the scrapping compound in June.
G-CIVN is at Kemble and is still registered to BA. Curiously, the other two at Kemble are still on the BA source listing and still registered to BA.

Clearly, G-CIVG will be gone shortly, but not so clear why G-CIVN has been removed from the BAsource.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:23 am

The BA source is usually quite accurate, however, there Covid Fleet Watch is far out of date.... Many of the aircraft listed as stored around Europe, are actually at LHR in service.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:11 am

Old QF 744 on the move from Victorville to Kansas City, 6 years after retirement:
https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3

Hard to believe that it will be taken up by someone when so many younger 744s are stored.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:27 am

bennett123 wrote:
http://thebasource.com/covid-fleet-watch/
https://siteapps.caa.co.uk/g-info/

Two more taken off the BA Source listing.

G-CIVG is down at St Athan and was de reg in April. It went to the scrapping compound in June.
G-CIVN is at Kemble and is still registered to BA.
Curiously, the other two at Kemble are still on the BA source listing and still registered to BA.

Clearly, G-CIVG will be gone shortly, but not so clear why G-CIVN has been removed from the BAsource.


On BA Source, search on 'G-CIVN' and you'll see why it has been removed from the fleet.

The pre-Covid-19 plan was for all BA 747s to be retired by February 2024, with the following numbers in the fleet at year end:
• 2020: 25
• 2021: 20
• 2022: 12
• 2023: 3

The current location of BA’s 747s are shown below (please feel free to correct any that are wrong).
The known planned retirement dates (from ‘Flyertalk’, subject to change) are shown. The aircraft with known retirement dates are configured ‘mid-J’ unless noted.
A number of the surviving 747s have not had a cabin refurbishment (credit to Speedbird96 and 747Fly) and these are noted.

G-BNLY Cardiff. Positioned BOH-CWL 15JUN. Due to retire 2023.
G-CIVA Teruel
G-CIVB LHR. Due to retire 2022
G-CIVC Cardiff. Positioned BOH-CWL 09JUN. Due to retire Nov 2022.
G-CIVD LHR. Due to retire May 2020. Has not had a cabin refurbishment.
G-CIVE LHR. Due to retire Nov 2022
G-CIVF Cardiff. Positioned LHR-CWL 06JUN. Due to retire Jun 2021. Super high-J.
G-CIVH LHR. Due to retire Jun 2020. Super high-J. Has not had a cabin refurbishment.
G-CIVI LHR. Due to retire Apr 2020. Super high-J.
G-CIVJ Kemble. Due to retire Jun 2020. Has not had a cabin refurbishment. BA Source states that IVJ could be returned to service, but would be the last to be reactivated.
G-CIVK LHR. Due to retire Jan 2021. Has not had a cabin refurbishment.
G-CIVL Kemble. Due to retire Nov 2020. Has not had a cabin refurbishment. BA Source states that IVL could be returned to service, but would be the last to be reactivated
G-CIVN Kemble. Was due to retire Feb 2021. Has not had a cabin refurbishment. BA Source states that IVN is permanently withdrawn from use.
G-CIVO Cardiff. Positioned LHR-CWL 03JUN.
G-CIVP LHR. Positioned BOH-LHR 28MAY.
G-CIVR Teruel
G-CIVS Teruel
G-CIVT Teruel
G-CIVU Cardiff. Positioned BOH-CWL 05JUN.
G-CIVV Cardiff
G-CIVW Cardiff. Positioned BOH-CWL 11JUN.
G-CIVX Teruel
G-CIVY LHR
G-CIVZ Cardiff
G-BYGA Cardiff
G-BYGB Cardiff
G-BYGC Cardiff. Positioned LHR-CWL 20JUN. Due to retire 2023. Super high-J.
G-BYGD Cardiff. Positioned LHR-CWL 16MAR.
G-BYGE Cardiff
G-BYGF LHR
G-BYGG Cardiff. Positioned LHR-CWL 03JUN.

For what it is worth, my guess is:
The four 747s currently at LHR with a planned retirement this year (IVD, IVH, IVI, IVK) will be retired soon.
The two 747s stored at Kemble (IVJ, IVL) will not return to service.
Five 747s were due to retire in 2021. One has already been withdrawn (IVN) and my guess is that the retirements of the other four will be brought forward.
The 747s at Cardiff and Teruel are generally the younger 747s, and (apart from BNLY & CIVC) did not have planned retirement dates. My guess is that a number of the 747s stored at Cardiff and Teruel will return to service.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:13 pm

na wrote:
Old QF 744 on the move from Victorville to Kansas City, 6 years after retirement:
https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3

Hard to believe that it will be taken up by someone when so many younger 744s are stored.


Still at VCV, check FlightAware/FR24. Might leave today but not sure.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:19 am

Is Atlas Air still acquiring N127UA?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:59 am

UA444 wrote:
Is Atlas Air still acquiring N127UA?


Given the current environment I’d highly doubt it, there’s pretty much 0 demand for pax charter aircraft now that most repats are over, and cargo demand is definitely not what it used to be a few months back. That’s also why Air Atlanta Icelandic decided to drop plans for passenger 777s and retired a bunch of pax 747s.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:36 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
UA444 wrote:
Is Atlas Air still acquiring N127UA?


Given the current environment I’d highly doubt it, there’s pretty much 0 demand for pax charter aircraft now that most repats are over, and cargo demand is definitely not what it used to be a few months back. That’s also why Air Atlanta Icelandic decided to drop plans for passenger 777s and retired a bunch of pax 747s.

Well I thought so too, but I actually saw on your Instagram that they had acquired it the same time they got N119UA but wasn’t sure. How many UA 747s are in VCV intact?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:23 am

UA444 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
UA444 wrote:
Is Atlas Air still acquiring N127UA?


Given the current environment I’d highly doubt it, there’s pretty much 0 demand for pax charter aircraft now that most repats are over, and cargo demand is definitely not what it used to be a few months back. That’s also why Air Atlanta Icelandic decided to drop plans for passenger 777s and retired a bunch of pax 747s.

Well I thought so too, but I actually saw on your Instagram that they had acquired it the same time they got N119UA but wasn’t sure. How many UA 747s are in VCV intact?


Oh, ok. Think whenever I posted that (a while ago) the deal was still on, but I haven’t heard anything since and the pandemic pretty much up-ended everything. There have been some that have fallen into disrepair/getting scrapped for parts, so I’d say the count is around 5 or so that are intact, although that number will likely continue to drop over time.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:39 pm

Atlas Air N464MC & N465MC are back in the air flying passenger charters.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:12 pm

BA are only expecting two 747s to return to service
We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:22 pm

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BA are only expecting two 747s to return to service


Permanently? Or short-term?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:15 pm

Ishrion wrote:
APYu wrote:
BA are only expecting two 747s to return to service


Permanently? Or short-term?

Permanently
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