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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:08 am

For a $10 fee LBE will now allow overnight parking in front of the terminal.
https://triblive.com/local/westmoreland ... aolYe2VPH4
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:28 pm

WN Readded PIT-PHX in todays schedule extension.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:50 pm

krod031 wrote:
WN Readded PIT-PHX in todays schedule extension.


Smart move to have the market all to themselves
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:06 pm

Delta28L wrote:
krod031 wrote:
WN Readded PIT-PHX in todays schedule extension.


Smart move to have the market all to themselves


I decided to take a look at AA. Looked at random dates after November, They readded it as well. 1x Daily on a 319
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:24 pm

STL is back up to 2x daily as well.


krod031 wrote:
I decided to take a look at AA. Looked at random dates after November, They readded it as well. 1x Daily on a 319

I don't think it was "re-added" as much as it was never cancelled after Nov. It was still loaded going in to 2021 when I checked several days ago. Either that, or AA hasn't bothered to update their schedules that far out.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:34 pm

Two AA A332s ferrying in from PHL at 4:30pm

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9612
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9613

Edit: AA9614 from CLT also scheduled, also an A332. Seems like PIT will be getting widebodies stored here.

Edit: UA also expected to send widebodies here for storage.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:29 am

VivaAerobus has 3 A320s enroute to PIT.

The regular CUN-PIT flight operated on behalf of Vacation Express:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIV26/history/20200314/2303Z/MMUN/KPIT

Two flights from SJD:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIV926/history/20200314/2216Z/MMSD/KPIT
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIV924/history/20200314/2254Z/MMSD/KPIT

I have no idea what the two SJD flights are about. VivaAerobus is providing the lift for the new Vacation Express PIT-SJD flights but those were not scheduled to begin until July.


As of right now BA's website is showing tomorrow's flight operating, then scheduled to resume April 17.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:53 pm

Any thoughts on what some longer term impacts of the COVID disruptions on air travel will mean for PIT? I'm wondering some of the long/thin/less profitable routes are vulnerable to either temporary or permanent cuts. Like service to SFO/SEA/LHR/FRA/RUD/PHX. I also wonder about G4 and what they might do.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:52 pm

PITexpress wrote:
Any thoughts on what some longer term impacts of the COVID disruptions on air travel will mean for PIT? I'm wondering some of the long/thin/less profitable routes are vulnerable to either temporary or permanent cuts. Like service to SFO/SEA/LHR/FRA/RUD/PHX. I also wonder about G4 and what they might do.


LHR service is doubtful from here on out ...

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commen ... t-opinion/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:42 pm

crjflyboy wrote:
PITexpress wrote:
Any thoughts on what some longer term impacts of the COVID disruptions on air travel will mean for PIT? I'm wondering some of the long/thin/less profitable routes are vulnerable to either temporary or permanent cuts. Like service to SFO/SEA/LHR/FRA/RUD/PHX. I also wonder about G4 and what they might do.


LHR service is doubtful from here on out ...

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commen ... t-opinion/


This article has no factual basis. The BA loads were very solid up until mid January where they did tank which was expected. The article mentions the lack of inbound connections to the US but ignores the outbound connections which are actually rather good. Pax loads were on their way back up again when they were halted. Inbound cargo loads have consistently been very good although outbound cargo has been weak. The end of the QR flights had been helping the outbound volume though. BA continues to give every indication that service will resume when the ban is lifted although likely on a reduced frequency just like most routes after this virus debacle.
All bets on everything aviation are off due to this virus situation. That much is true. Other than that, this article is a factually unsupported opinion piece.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:08 pm

As most of the world is grappling with the real questions on how to handle a pandemic, nice to know the Allegheny Institute has decided to spend their time going into attack mode.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:24 pm

For what it's worth WN has PIT-LAS scheduled 3x daily starting Aug 11 for about 7 weeks then 2x daily. First time they've had that kind of frequency on the route. Of course the virus needs to be non-existant by then. Then there is the matter of the rolling MAX cuts. But at least it is on the radar of their network planners.

As far as BA, I have no doubt they will be back as soon as allowed, and probably at their "full" frequency of 4x weekly, which imho is already a reduced frequency considering how well it performed its first summer. Plus, it is still in the subsidy period so that would mean at least 4x weekly.

One thing not yet mentioned is the Terminal Modernization Plan and how it might be affected. The 2020 budget is set and based on a predicted number of passengers and landings, which now of course will be a fraction of what was projected. I wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing delayed at least 1-2 years.


crjflyboy wrote:
LHR service is doubtful from here on out ...

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commen ... t-opinion/

No its not. It was just pointed out last week that the Allegheny Institute opinion pieces on airport topics is the stuff of comedic legend, and this is no exception. For example, from the source document:

"TranStats data are likely explainable in large part to the fact that the PIT data does not distinguish between passengers whose origin or destination is PIT and connecting passengers. Generally, PIT passenger numbers for each month and year-to-date are more than twice as large as the TranStats numbers for originating passengers boarding at PIT. "

So is he seriously suggesting that about half the passengers PIT reports are connecting?!?!

I believe TransStats passenger data is one way for a city pair. That explains why PIT totals are almost double what TransStats shows; It has nothing to do with connections at PIT.

Then of course they ignore the benefit of BA's flights being year round, unlike DL's flight to CDG.

Their whole argument that BA's PIT flight is a "failure" is that passenger totals on BA's 4 weekly flights do not make up for the 12 weekly flights offered between DL and WW. Duh. Regardless, the AI has a long history of cherry picking their "facts" when writing these opinions.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:17 pm

The Allegheny Institute's brain trust is three old white guys. They probably live in Cleveland.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:33 pm

ConcourseZ wrote:
The Allegheny Institute's brain trust is three old white guys. They probably live in Cleveland.



All are from the Pittsburgh region ....

https://www.alleghenyinstitute.org/us/staff/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:19 pm

crjflyboy wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
The Allegheny Institute's brain trust is three old white guys. They probably live in Cleveland.



All are from the Pittsburgh region ....

https://www.alleghenyinstitute.org/us/staff/

You missed the joke.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:58 pm

Hey - I live in Cleveland and I got the joke.
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    Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:20 pm

    And as you know Cleveland has ruled Pittsburgh for years LOL just not in football
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:24 pm

      3/17 flights on UA to ORD (since UA's seat map is easiest to see):
      19 people, 24,20,23,23,12.
      to DEN, 42, 55
      to SFO, 38, 42
      to IAH, 17, 27, 29, 26 (on a 737-900), 18
      to EWR, 5, another 5, 9, 17, 6, 11,20, 17, 9

      Needless to say I find current articles on the cancellations to be a little premature and don't fully capture what's about to hit us in terms of flight and employment cutbacks.

      Ironically, on many of those flights first class is the most full section-- unless people move around after boarding that violates recommendations for social distancing. I have to imagine people move around to separate, I sure would.
       
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      Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:10 pm

      The casinos in Vegas are now closed for at least 30 days. Those WN and NK flights are going to be mighty empty..
       
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      Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:28 pm

      Before it was cancelled, my flight on UA from SFO to PIT (redeye) on 5/3 had nobody in first class and 16 in economy.

      ncflyer wrote:
      3/17 flights on UA to ORD (since UA's seat map is easiest to see):
      19 people, 24,20,23,23,12.
      to DEN, 42, 55
      to SFO, 38, 42
      to IAH, 17, 27, 29, 26 (on a 737-900), 18
      to EWR, 5, another 5, 9, 17, 6, 11,20, 17, 9

      Needless to say I find current articles on the cancellations to be a little premature and don't fully capture what's about to hit us in terms of flight and employment cutbacks.

      Ironically, on many of those flights first class is the most full section-- unless people move around after boarding that violates recommendations for social distancing. I have to imagine people move around to separate, I sure would.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:50 pm

      AA sending another A330 this time it's a -300 making this the 6th A330 AA has sent to PIT
      https://fr24.com/AAL9626/243957bb
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:58 am

      The BTS/Transtats website released domestic passenger numbers for December 2019, giving us the entire year's worth of data.

      Top ten destinations from PIT in 2019 and total passenger numbers:
      1. ATL, 473,185
      2. ORD, 334,916
      3. CLT, 296,138
      4. MCO, 260,908
      5. BOS, 211,953
      6. DEN, 210,169
      7. LGA, 180,793
      8. DFW, 178,043
      9. MDW, 161,691
      10. EWR, 158,604

      Top five are unchanged from last year and 6th-9th have simply switched positions with each other. EWR, however, has moved up to kick FLL out of the top ten. In fact, FLL dropped down to 15th over that twelve month period.

      The number of non-stop domestic destinations spanning the entire year increased from 49 to 51. CHS, SEA, SLC and SRQ had been added in 2018, while FKL and HGR were dropped in 2019. No permanent domestic destinations were added in 2019.

      Of the 51 destinations, 30 saw passenger numbers increase, 21 saw decreases. Not as good as last year (37 increase and 12 decreases).

      Increasing the most between year end 2018 and year end 2019 were:
      1. SEA, +35,376 (+222.11%)
      2. DEN, +31,251 (+17.47%)
      3. ATL, +27,879 (+6.26%)
      4. SLC, +22,969 (+126.60%)
      5. BNA, +21,704 (+34.02%)
      6. LGA, +19,727 (+12.25%)
      7. EWR, +16,406 (+11.54%)
      8. SFO, +14,815 (+24.86%)
      9. ORD, +11,470 (+3.55%)
      10. CLT, +9,702 (+3.39%)

      And decreasing the most:
      1. FLL, -34.378 (-22.31%)
      2. LAX, -27,062 (-30.87%)
      3. DFW, -21,698 (-10.86%)
      4. PHX, -20,832 (-16.43%)
      5. MDW, -17,831 (-9.93%)
      6. LAS, -15,377 (-11.27%)
      7. PHL, -7,692 (-5.08%)
      8. BOS, -4,485 (-2.07%)
      9. MSY, -4,361 (-30.00%)
      10. IAD, -4,227 (-4.63%)

      Unfortunately, it's looking like the stats for 2020 will be pretty bad compared to 2019...
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:47 am

      Does anyone know why Westjet sent a 767-300 to Pittsburgh
       
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      Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:36 am

      Gsasala wrote:
      Does anyone know why Westjet sent a 767-300 to Pittsburgh


      Westjet 2509 was originally scheduled PUJ-YYZ. From ATC, it sounds like it was a medical diversion to PIT - not COVID-19 related, rather a possible stroke.

      Looks like they departed about an hour later and continued on to YYZ.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:07 am

      I don’t live in PIT but follow terminal modernization with great interest, now of course who the heck knows what will happen. Heck maybe congress will finally agree to an infrastructure program in a few months and that will provide a new source of funds.

      My question though: is dirt moving for the project yet? Any signs of activity?
       
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      Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:16 am

      ncflyer wrote:
      I don’t live in PIT but follow terminal modernization with great interest, now of course who the heck knows what will happen. Heck maybe congress will finally agree to an infrastructure program in a few months and that will provide a new source of funds.

      My question though: is dirt moving for the project yet? Any signs of activity?

      There was definitely signs of stuff going on last time I was there
       
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      Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:47 pm

      ncflyer wrote:
      I don’t live in PIT but follow terminal modernization with great interest, now of course who the heck knows what will happen. Heck maybe congress will finally agree to an infrastructure program in a few months and that will provide a new source of funds.

      My question though: is dirt moving for the project yet? Any signs of activity?


      No dirt moving yet. But lots of setting up to get ready to move the dirt. Setting up fences, trailers, access, etc. Basically, no real serious money has been spent yet...but that was going to change real soon. Right now construction is banned in PA so by default they have to stop work. However, we are currently the only state in the nation that has classified infrastructure construction as non-essential...so that may change.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:48 pm

      Regarding the TMP from a Q&A with Cassotis:

      "What's will be the impact on the big terminal modernization plan?

      We're at 60 percent design and we have some work to do to to get to 100 percent. A lot of that work is being done remotely. We are proceeding cautiously. We need to understand the bond market, and we are waiting to understand what the impact of the schedule will be. When we know that, we will communicate it.

      How long could it be delayed?

      I do not know, because things are changing so fast right now. We're all just trying to figure out what point we settle and operate from some point of a new normal, and when does it start to rebound. That's what we're trying to understand, how it's playing out worldwide, and looking at other parts of the world and if recovery is happening there, which is why China is important for us to study. We saw a massive dip and decline in airline operations and we're starting to slowly see it creep back up. But we're not there yet at this point in this country.
      "
      https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/03/23/exclusive-cassotis-talks-about-how-the-airport-is.html
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:37 pm

      Regarding parking aircraft, I just read ATL has closed 10-28 through mid-April for Delta to park aircraft.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:57 am

      AA looks to be putting some of their E190s aside, and PIT is one of the locations they're sending them to. N954UW was ferried from LGA to PIT earlier today as flight AA9625. All future flights for the aircraft are cancelled per FlightRadar24.
      A couple of other E190s flew from PHL to ROW today as well.
       
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:38 pm

      flyPIT wrote:


      I wonder, will there be a way to keep tabs on how many planes are parked there, or will it just be revealed through the occasional article such as the one you mention? Has anyone (or the airport themselves) shared many photos of the parked planes?
       
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      Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm

      PITexpress wrote:
      flyPIT wrote:


      I wonder, will there be a way to keep tabs on how many planes are parked there, or will it just be revealed through the occasional article such as the one you mention? Has anyone (or the airport themselves) shared many photos of the parked planes?


      PIT's Flickr page has an album, although it is several days old:
      https://www.flickr.com/photos/pitairport/albums/72157713476059587
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:24 pm

      "PIT Delays $1.1B Terminal Project Over Outbreak "

      Radio interview with Ms. Cassotis at the 9 min mark, the interesting topics at the 13 min mark.
      https://www.wesa.fm/post/pit-delays-11b-terminal-project-over-outbreak#stream/0

      No surprise at all. Hopefully as they continue design work they revisit some of the design issues mentioned here a few weeks ago.
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:05 pm

      I was by the airport yesterday and there were 5 AA A330’s at the AF Reserve are. Have a picture but can’t post it
       
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      Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:42 am

      flyPIT wrote:
      "PIT Delays $1.1B Terminal Project Over Outbreak "

      Radio interview with Ms. Cassotis at the 9 min mark, the interesting topics at the 13 min mark.
      https://www.wesa.fm/post/pit-delays-11b-terminal-project-over-outbreak#stream/0

      No surprise at all. Hopefully as they continue design work they revisit some of the design issues mentioned here a few weeks ago.


      Pretty much every construction project is on hold because of the state's shelter in place orders.
      2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW, PHL, MIA, LAX; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), B739 (DL), B712 (DL), B752 (AA), B763 (AA), B77W (AA), B789 (AA)
      Next: TBA
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:14 am

      ctrabs0114 wrote:
      flyPIT wrote:
      "PIT Delays $1.1B Terminal Project Over Outbreak "

      Radio interview with Ms. Cassotis at the 9 min mark, the interesting topics at the 13 min mark.
      https://www.wesa.fm/post/pit-delays-11b-terminal-project-over-outbreak#stream/0

      No surprise at all. Hopefully as they continue design work they revisit some of the design issues mentioned here a few weeks ago.


      Pretty much every construction project is on hold because of the state's shelter in place orders.


      To my knowledge, PA is still the only state in the nation that has deemed infrastructure projects to be non-essential. This includes WA, CA, NY, NJ, etc...they are all still letting infrastructure continue.

      That being said, I imagine the debt market now is in shambles, especially with PIT's pax numbers falling through the floor. They probably can't get the money to actually build the thing at the moment.

      BTW, according to the AA fleet thread, in addition to the E-190s and A-330s, there will be 15 additional A-319/320/321's heading to PIT tomorrow for storage.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:16 am

      AS is reducing their flights by 70% I wonder if they will cut the PIT flight
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:40 am

      Gsasala wrote:
      AS is reducing their flights by 70% I wonder if they will cut the PIT flight


      Many carriers are now cancelling flights just a day or two out instead of waiting for schedule reductions to go into effect. The AS SEA-PIT and return flights on Tue/Wed/Fri were cancelled (tomorrow's flights are still on for now). Probably does not bode well for the route as one that will be retained during the crisis.
       
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      Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:29 am

      Airlines are swamped with work and doing what they can to keep up, so I'm not blaming them-- but--- last minute cancellations make it much harder for pax to get a full refund as opposed to a credit for future travel within a year. If you cancel a reservation on your own, you get the credit, if the airline cancels the flight entirely-- the refund is an option. At least that's my understanding.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:44 pm

      Did a quick count on FlightAware. AA sending 24 aircraft to PIT today with more coming tomorrow.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:03 pm

      ncflyer wrote:
      Airlines are swamped with work and doing what they can to keep up, so I'm not blaming them-- but--- last minute cancellations make it much harder for pax to get a full refund as opposed to a credit for future travel within a year. If you cancel a reservation on your own, you get the credit, if the airline cancels the flight entirely-- the refund is an option. At least that's my understanding.



      You would think, but I'm currently on the phone with UA about flights to Asia being cancelled (the route was cancelled completely), and they're refusing to refund. A day after they get a bailout.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:14 pm

      Anyone know the aircraft type of this presumably mil flight from across the pond?
      https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BLUE49/history/20200326/1537Z
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:55 pm

      flyPIT wrote:
      Anyone know the aircraft type of this presumably mil flight from across the pond?
      https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BLUE49/history/20200326/1537Z

      KC-135 from the 171st. Came in from RAF Mildenhall.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:34 pm

      PIT showing the lineup of AA planes parked here on the IG account @pitairport
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:38 am

      umichman wrote:
      Gsasala wrote:
      AS is reducing their flights by 70% I wonder if they will cut the PIT flight


      Many carriers are now cancelling flights just a day or two out instead of waiting for schedule reductions to go into effect. The AS SEA-PIT and return flights on Tue/Wed/Fri were cancelled (tomorrow's flights are still on for now). Probably does not bode well for the route as one that will be retained during the crisis.


      The Seattle-Tacoma area was one of the areas hit hardest in the initial wave of the COVID-19 outbreak, so it's not surprising that flights into and out of SEA would be among the hardest hit.
      2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW, PHL, MIA, LAX; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), B739 (DL), B712 (DL), B752 (AA), B763 (AA), B77W (AA), B789 (AA)
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:46 pm

      Random question, does anyone remember if Braniff International ever had 3 daily departures from PIT? When they launched PIT in December 1978, there were two flights, one to MCI and one to MEM. I believe MEM was discontinued mid-1979 and MCI lasted until early 1980. But did they ever fly PIT-ORD, even if briefly, it would have been in early 1979? Thanks.
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:48 pm

      IINM, BN just did PITDFW and PITMCI.
      It's a Great Day for Hockey!
       
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      Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

      Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:39 pm

      PITexpress wrote:
      flyPIT wrote:


      I wonder, will there be a way to keep tabs on how many planes are parked there, or will it just be revealed through the occasional article such as the one you mention? Has anyone (or the airport themselves) shared many photos of the parked planes?


      There are some photos here: https://worldairlinenews.com/2020/03/28/american-parks-aircraft-at-pittsburgh-international-airport/amp/
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