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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:58 pm

So it looks like AA is sending their E-190 and A332 to ROW, it makes sense to move the E-190 since they are retiring them but why the A330-200?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:54 pm

Teeeye81 wrote:
Fdx1382, a second 763 last night, took a strange route back to MEM last night. Took of 28R and went north then continued a 270 degree turn to the south. It turned eastbound to Harrisburg. At FL230 for a good while the up to FL370. Turned south for a good while then SW toward MEM. Couldn’t figure out why. No weather. Very little traffic. Training? Got me. Anybody got any ideas? Can’t post the track. Sorry

FedEx likes to send planes on goofy routes like this so that if a plane in another city breaks down another can quickly swoop in and recover the cargo.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:38 pm

FedEx likes to send planes on goofy routes like this so that if a plane in another city breaks down another can quickly swoop in and recover the cargo
Thanks. Haven’t seen that before. Also, was watching arrivals to MEM last night and others took that southern route to MEM as the northeast arrival fix to MEM was busy. Center was vectoring and putting them in trail several hundred miles out. I used to be a controller at MEM back in the late 70’s hence my curiosity. Thanks
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:35 pm

Teeeye81 wrote:
FedEx likes to send planes on goofy routes like this so that if a plane in another city breaks down another can quickly swoop in and recover the cargo
Thanks. Haven’t seen that before. Also, was watching arrivals to MEM last night and others took that southern route to MEM as the northeast arrival fix to MEM was busy. Center was vectoring and putting them in trail several hundred miles out. I used to be a controller at MEM back in the late 70’s hence my curiosity. Thanks

I believe at one point they used to even have an empty A300 flying around to do these recoveries.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:14 pm

flightsimer wrote:
Teeeye81 wrote:
FedEx likes to send planes on goofy routes like this so that if a plane in another city breaks down another can quickly swoop in and recover the cargo
Thanks. Haven’t seen that before. Also, was watching arrivals to MEM last night and others took that southern route to MEM as the northeast arrival fix to MEM was busy. Center was vectoring and putting them in trail several hundred miles out. I used to be a controller at MEM back in the late 70’s hence my curiosity. Thanks

I believe at one point they used to even have an empty A300 flying around to do these recoveries.


UPS still has a contingency of having strategically placed "hot spare" aircraft with crews on standby to swoop in and save packages if another plane breaks down. If they miss the departure bank their next day packages won't arrive as promised. I assume FedEx does something similar.

https://gearpatrol.com/2015/04/22/on-al ... ot-spares/
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:21 pm

Albeit, Who knows what the industry will look like come November, but F9 is flipping back to its MCO n/s from PIT. 3x Weekly on a 320.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:10 pm

Rare Titan Airways 757-200 inbound from London-Stansed. Any reason for the visit?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWC589Y
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:14 pm

pitbosflyer wrote:
flightsimer wrote:
Teeeye81 wrote:
FedEx likes to send planes on goofy routes like this so that if a plane in another city breaks down another can quickly swoop in and recover the cargo
Thanks. Haven’t seen that before. Also, was watching arrivals to MEM last night and others took that southern route to MEM as the northeast arrival fix to MEM was busy. Center was vectoring and putting them in trail several hundred miles out. I used to be a controller at MEM back in the late 70’s hence my curiosity. Thanks

I believe at one point they used to even have an empty A300 flying around to do these recoveries.


UPS still has a contingency of having strategically placed "hot spare" aircraft with crews on standby to swoop in and save packages if another plane breaks down. If they miss the departure bank their next day packages won't arrive as promised. I assume FedEx does something similar.

https://gearpatrol.com/2015/04/22/on-al ... ot-spares/


Very common during the holidays to have multiple planes in standby to pick up extra demand or if a plane breaks down to keep the packages on time.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:08 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Rare Titan Airways 757-200 inbound from London-Stansed. Any reason for the visit?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWC589Y

Maybe a repatriation flight
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:24 pm

Gsasala wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Rare Titan Airways 757-200 inbound from London-Stansed. Any reason for the visit?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWC589Y

Maybe a repatriation flight

UPS is a Titan client, so it's possible it's on cargo duty of some sort for UPS.
 
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:34 pm

Just saw a KC-10 flying in.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm

Two KC-10s. Low approaches or touch n goes.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:08 pm

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Looking at the bookings, May 3rd, PIT-MCO resumes... with a stop in LBE.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:42 pm

And adding on, the return flight goes MCO-PIT-LBE. and PIT-LBE is bookable.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:46 am

Another one i noticed, Alaska extended the BWI portion of the PIT-SEA flight until May 2nd. (Will it to go beyond that??)
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:20 pm

krod031 wrote:
And adding on, the return flight goes MCO-PIT-LBE. and PIT-LBE is bookable.


Kinda cool, makes a lot of sense I think. Wonder if there might be more tag flights remaining after this all is over. Will it have changed the industry in that way?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:03 pm

krod031 wrote:
And adding on, the return flight goes MCO-PIT-LBE. and PIT-LBE is bookable.

Flights from MCO-PIT and back are $281 one way on NK and on WN the flights are $99 one way.....who would book NK to/from PIT/MCO when WN is so much cheaper right now?
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:32 pm

dabpit wrote:
krod031 wrote:
And adding on, the return flight goes MCO-PIT-LBE. and PIT-LBE is bookable.

Flights from MCO-PIT and back are $281 one way on NK and on WN the flights are $99 one way.....who would book NK to/from PIT/MCO when WN is so much cheaper right now?


Are seats actually still available on WN at the $99 price? If so, I couldn't conceive of a reason to book NK from PIT. LBE maybe but even that's a stretch.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:47 pm

dabpit wrote:
krod031 wrote:
And adding on, the return flight goes MCO-PIT-LBE. and PIT-LBE is bookable.

Flights from MCO-PIT and back are $281 one way on NK and on WN the flights are $99 one way.....who would book NK to/from PIT/MCO when WN is so much cheaper right now?


It's $281 on some dates, but there are also a number of dates where it is only $18.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:39 am

Local developer Burns Scalo has purchased 41 acres of land from Chevron immediately southeast of PIT under the 32 approach. This was once to be the location of a new regional headquarters and training facility for Chevron. Burns Scalo is planning 3 office buildings totaling 500,000 sq. ft.
https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/04/22/burns-scalo-reveals-plans-for-diamond-ridge-in.html
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:08 am

Been tipped off that there should be a National Airlines B752 coming in from ICN via ANC tomorrow. Unsure why, but bringing over testing kits would be my guess.

The 911th Airlift Wing deployed more members to McGuire AFB on Wednseday to help out with COVID-19 relief efforts in New York.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:02 pm

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Been tipped off that there should be a National Airlines B752 coming in from ICN via ANC tomorrow. Unsure why, but bringing over testing kits would be my guess.


And here it is, N8 324 (N567CA) en route from ANC:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#2467c0d6
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW, PHL, MIA, LAX; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), B739 (DL), B712 (DL), B752 (AA), B763 (AA), B77W (AA), B789 (AA)
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:33 pm

krod031 wrote:
Another one i noticed, Alaska extended the BWI portion of the PIT-SEA flight until May 2nd. (Will it to go beyond that??)


The OAG thread today made me check it out. Extended until May 9th now.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:11 am

The National 757 departed PIT back to ICN a couple days ago. It is now on its way back to PIT:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/NCR ... /PANC/KPIT

There's pics of the Titan 757 from STN on PIT's Flickr page.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Frontiers final 2 flights to MCO on 5/17 and 5/24 will originate in PHL then stop in PIT. The return flights now require a stop in PHL.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:50 am

"FEMA Cargo Flights Expand to Pittsburgh"
https://blueskypit.com/2020/04/27/fema- ... ittsburgh/


Borrowed from LBE's FB page:
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:11 pm

krod031 wrote:
Frontiers final 2 flights to MCO on 5/17 and 5/24 will originate in PHL then stop in PIT. The return flights now require a stop in PHL.


There's that ULCC PIT-PHL flight we've been dreaming of...

Cool to see LBE getting some NK planes.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:22 pm

Condor's website now showing flights staring June 26. Similar with BWI and MSY. Still showing Omni.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:28 pm

March numbers are out, total passengers are down 52.3%
https://flypittsburgh.com/wp-content/up ... port-2.pdf
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:42 pm

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Condor's website now showing flights staring June 26. Similar with BWI and MSY. Still showing Omni.


I wish my reaction was one of hope and chutes of grass in the aviation field, but instead it's one of laughter! At the moment not even star alliance hubs ORD/IAH/IAD have flights to Frankfurt.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:49 pm

ncflyer wrote:
flyPIT wrote:
Condor's website now showing flights staring June 26. Similar with BWI and MSY. Still showing Omni.


I wish my reaction was one of hope and chutes of grass in the aviation field, but instead it's one of laughter! At the moment not even star alliance hubs ORD/IAH/IAD have flights to Frankfurt.


Those markets aren't providing subsidies either. In times like these we might see things that we don't expect as airlines scramble to scrape up every dollar they can.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:12 pm

ncflyer wrote:
I wish my reaction was one of hope and chutes of grass in the aviation field, but instead it's one of laughter! At the moment not even star alliance hubs ORD/IAH/IAD have flights to Frankfurt.

Actually, after a quick search all of those are being offered for sale at this very moment for service on June 26, the date DE has PIT-FRA available.

I'm just reporting the updated schedule, all of which may and probably will change.


Flaps wrote:
Those markets aren't providing subsidies either. In times like these we might see things that we don't expect as airlines scramble to scrape up every dollar they can.

PIT-FRA has long been unsubsidized.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 am

PIT-FRA is not, but Condor as an airline is being pumped with government loans. There may be strings attached to that money, probably what what Flaps meant.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri May 01, 2020 6:20 pm

I found these pics of our UPS B748 divert a few months ago on Flickr:

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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat May 02, 2020 11:55 pm

An article today in Bloomberg.com states that airline passenger counts have rebounded.........to 1956 levels. The next 2-3 years will be tough.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue May 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Some flight updates i noticed:
AS Extended the PIT flagstop for the BWI-SEA flight until May 17th.
F9 added a couple more MCO flights on Thursdays, with the final flight now 6/25. The returns still stop in PHL.
 
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Tue May 05, 2020 6:08 pm

"UV floor scrubbing robots coming to Pittsburgh International Airport

Airport officials said PIT will be the first U.S. airport to use these new robots after teaming up with Pittsburgh-based Carnegie Robotics. The idea is that UV-C rays, which hospitals have been using for decades to sanitize rooms, can be used against the coronavirus at the airport.
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https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/allegheny-county/uv-floor-scrubbing-robots-coming-pittsburgh-international-airport/G5UGWSJ6XZFZVAYMUUFB2PSHHA/
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed May 06, 2020 7:29 pm

Not often does PIT see a DC-9 anymore.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/7Z9810

Cargo ops appear to be ramping up significantly. FedEx has been running extra frequencies to MEM on a mix of A300s and 767s, and today is operating four flights over the next 24 hours. SCE has also seen extra Feeder flights as of late. UPS has been running a second daily flight from SDF on a 757 and tonight's PHL flight has been upgraded to an A300.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri May 08, 2020 9:17 pm

UPS has 2 MD-11s arriving within 10 minutes of each other this evening. FedEx also has two 767s arriving within 10 minutes this evening.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat May 09, 2020 7:14 pm

Last Delta MD-88 flight into Pittsburgh is June 1st. ATL-PIT is being downgraded entirely to 717s afterwards.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun May 10, 2020 4:05 am

Runway28L wrote:
Last Delta MD-88 flight into Pittsburgh is June 1st. ATL-PIT is being downgraded entirely to 717s afterwards.


Ouch. How else has DL tweaked their ops at PIT?
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Next: TBA
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon May 11, 2020 12:05 am

National B747 on it's way to PIT from ANC
N8611 from Anchorage to Pittsburgh https://fr24.com/NCR611/247ad517
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue May 12, 2020 8:57 pm

Some positive news:

"Positive customer response to restored air service between Orlando, Fla., and Arnold Palmer Regional Airport, by way of Pittsburgh International, is expected to bring direct flights back next month from Westmoreland County to Florida.

Spirit Airlines launched a circular Orlando-Pittsburgh-Unity route on May 3 — nearly a month after suspending all service at the Palmer airport as passenger numbers plummeted during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Orlando flights, which occur on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays, have been fully booked for this Thursday and for May 21, according to Gabe Monzo, executive director of the Westmoreland County Airport Authority.

“In the middle of June, we’ll go to our own flight to Orlando,” Monzo said. “We won’t share it with Pittsburgh.”
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https://triblive.com/local/westmoreland ... h-orlando/
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Thu May 14, 2020 2:26 pm

 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 4:17 pm

It appears many of the AA park aircraft on the 28C/10C taxiway are gone. Were they moved to another location or were these ferried to the bone yard?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 11:11 pm

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It appears many of the AA park aircraft on the 28C/10C taxiway are gone. Were they moved to another location or were these ferried to the bone yard?

The 7 330’s along with the 20 190’s which were the aircraft that mostly occupied the taxiway and runway closest to landslide have all been ferried out west. The 32x’s that were in that general area have also been shuffled around on the airport. They have stacked planes onto every removed gate that was on the west side of C and D concourses. They have also parked planes on the outside edge of that same pavement on the outer taxi lane as well. I’m not sure exactly why the move has occurred, my guess shuffling planes through maintenance for use on the lines with planes that hadn’t been parked. Most of the planes on the east side of the field are still lined up down the taxiway and runway though.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 3:42 pm

flightsimer wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
It appears many of the AA park aircraft on the 28C/10C taxiway are gone. Were they moved to another location or were these ferried to the bone yard?

The 7 330’s along with the 20 190’s which were the aircraft that mostly occupied the taxiway and runway closest to landslide have all been ferried out west. The 32x’s that were in that general area have also been shuffled around on the airport. They have stacked planes onto every removed gate that was on the west side of C and D concourses. They have also parked planes on the outside edge of that same pavement on the outer taxi lane as well. I’m not sure exactly why the move has occurred, my guess shuffling planes through maintenance for use on the lines with planes that hadn’t been parked. Most of the planes on the east side of the field are still lined up down the taxiway and runway though.


Any current photos of what it looks like now?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 3:42 pm

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Last Delta MD-88 flight into Pittsburgh is June 1st. ATL-PIT is being downgraded entirely to 717s afterwards.


Sad news :( I loved the Mad Dawgs.

Another (accelerated) casualty of the pandemic. I looked on seat guru and they still have the original docket of flights for that route onJune 2nd. All MDs except for two 737s.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 3:43 pm

flightsimer wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
It appears many of the AA park aircraft on the 28C/10C taxiway are gone. Were they moved to another location or were these ferried to the bone yard?

The 7 330’s along with the 20 190’s which were the aircraft that mostly occupied the taxiway and runway closest to landslide have all been ferried out west.


Do you happen to know what day(s) they were ferried?

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