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Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:05 pm

Welcome to the Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2020. Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:37 pm

Frontier will be building a new hanger at MCO for maintenance. It is projected to be completed in 2021. Also, the pilot bid has gone out for the first round of captains (28) to man the new pilot/crew base in MIA. Some will be effective in March the others April 1st. Buildup is expected to reach about 100 crews over the next couple of years.

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Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:43 pm

Does anyone know how large the TTN pilot and flight attendant base is, and if they plan on expanding?
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:45 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Does anyone know how large the TTN pilot and flight attendant base is, and if they plan on expanding?

I am pretty sure TTN is grouped with PHL. I do not know size.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:53 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Does anyone know how large the TTN pilot and flight attendant base is, and if they plan on expanding?

I am pretty sure TTN is grouped with PHL. I do not know size.


You could be right, this was all I could find.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldairli ... ersey/amp/

Maybe since they grew so much in PHL they opted to move the base there?
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:57 am

2019 was a great year for Frontier! Looking forward to 2020!

A Few of F9’s 2019 Highlights:

F9 Celebrated their 25th Anniversary
F9 introduced the “Kids Fly Free” Program
F9 received 18 new planes (all 320neos)
F9 ordered 18 A321XLRs and increased a321neo order
F9 expanded into NYC with 15 routes from EWR
F9 announced 63 new routes in total
***2 new countries
***8 new cities
***10 new airports
F9 announced a new hangar to be built at MCO
F9 announced a new hub at MIA
F9 hired 218 pilots and 727 flight attendants
F9 named most fuel efficient airline in U.S.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:58 am

Frontier will be building a new hanger at MCO for maintenance


How many polos and jackets do you think they can hang in there?
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:17 am

Nice increase in flights to ONT.
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:17 am

Nice increase in flights to ONT.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:30 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Does anyone know how large the TTN pilot and flight attendant base is, and if they plan on expanding?


TTN and PHL are a single joint flight attendant base. 200 - 300ish.
PHL alone is a pilot base. 100ish.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:47 am

Have to say 2019 was a pretty ground breaking year for frontier. Major announcements and routes added.

Any chance frontier will go spirits direction and add some more padding to the seats?
 
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:05 am

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
Have to say 2019 was a pretty ground breaking year for frontier. Major announcements and routes added.

Any chance frontier will go spirits direction and add some more padding to the seats?


I have flown on G4, F9, and NK and Frontier has by far the worst seats I have ever sat in. Frontier seats make Allegiant seats feel like high society.
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:13 am

Never flew them, but they seem to have negative image in terms of comfort, service. Is that correct?
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:04 pm

Frontier will cease operations at Birmingham Airport and Mobile Downtown Airport.

https://www.wrbl.com/alabama-news-2/fro ... -airports/

Frontier cites insufficient demand as the reason for exiting both Alabama markets.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:27 pm

zackary747 wrote:
slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
Have to say 2019 was a pretty ground breaking year for frontier. Major announcements and routes added.

Any chance frontier will go spirits direction and add some more padding to the seats?


I have flown on G4, F9, and NK and Frontier has by far the worst seats I have ever sat in. Frontier seats make Allegiant seats feel like high society.


Frontier uses the same Acro slimlines as Hawaiian's 717s, does it not? Isn't an Acro slimline what Spirit is rolling out - with the 'extra' padding?
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:00 pm

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Never flew them, but they seem to have negative image in terms of comfort, service. Is that correct?

I found their service to be fine (nothing is free though), but the seats are indeed quite cramped. I think most are 28" pitch. The stretch seating can be a pretty good deal though.
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:09 pm

I've heard theres another batch of additions coming in January, anyone else hear that or know when?
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:14 pm

Here are the load factors of F9 nonstop routes out of CVG that have either been already dropped or that will be dropped by F9 later this year:
2016
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CVG-IAH - 84.48%
CVG-PHL - 80.30%
CVG-PHX - 80.38%
CVG-SFO - 86.61%

2017
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CVG-IAH - 85.59%
CVG-LGA - 87.93%
CVG-PHL - 83.58%
CVG-PHX - 84.59%
CVG-SFO - 83.21%

2018
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CVG-AUS - 77.77%
CVG-JAX - 78.94%
CVG-LGA - 87.73%
CVG-PHL - 78.63%
CVG-PHX - 89.45%
CVG-RDU - 84.50%
CVG-SAT - 74.44%
CVG-SJC - 77.78%

2019
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CVG-AUS - 79.19%
CVG-JAX - 86.32%
CVG-LGA - 90.65%
CVG-PHL - 71.44%
CVG-PHX - 85.66%
CVG-RDU - 76.05%
CVG-SFO - 85.53%

I can understand F9 having already dropped CVG-AUS, CVG-PHL, CVG-RDU, CVG-SAT, and CVG-SJC nonstop service with these 5 routes having lower load factors than most of the other nonstop routes that F9 has operated out of CVG. I can also understand F9 having dropped CVG-LGA nonstop service with LGA being slot-restricted and with F9 planning on using its LGA slots on other routes out of LGA in Summer 2020.

While F9 still currently operates CVG-PHX nonstop service, F9 will be ending CVG-PHX nonstop service on April 21st instead of continuing CVG-PHX nonstop service during the summer travel season. AA, DL, and WN also will be ending CVG-PHX seasonal nonstop service in April.

I am unsure why F9 dropped CVG-IAH, CVG-JAX, or CVG-SFO nonstop service or why F9 will be ending CVG-PHX nonstop service when load factors and demand on these routes were similar to other F9 nonstop routes out of CVG that either haven't been dropped or will be resuming in April 2020.

F9 will also be resuming the following seasonal nonstop routes out of CVG in April 2020:
CVG-ATL on April 24th
CVG-DFW son April 23rd
CVG-LAX on April 24th
CVG-MSP on April 23rd
CVG-SAN on April 23rd

Demand for F9 service out of CVG has also been decreasing since its peak in July 2017.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:22 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
I've heard theres another batch of additions coming in January, anyone else hear that or know when?


Frontier typically rolls out their domestic expansions in early to mid January, so that sounds right.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:40 pm

They announced dropping Birmingham and Mobile Alabama.
https://www.al.com/business/2020/01/fro ... icago.html
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:43 pm

dabpit wrote:
They announced dropping Birmingham and Mobile Alabama.
https://www.al.com/business/2020/01/fro ... icago.html

Not surprised about Mobile, but Birmingham comes as a little surprise considering the lack of ULCC exposure there.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:59 pm

avtcle wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
I've heard theres another batch of additions coming in January, anyone else hear that or know when?


Frontier typically rolls out their domestic expansions in early to mid January, so that sounds right.


Would love to see MCO added to XNA .
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:55 pm

flymco753 wrote:
dabpit wrote:
They announced dropping Birmingham and Mobile Alabama.
https://www.al.com/business/2020/01/fro ... icago.html

Not surprised about Mobile, but Birmingham comes as a little surprise considering the lack of ULCC exposure there.


While F9 had 86.75% load factors on DEN-BHM nonstop service in the January 2019 - August 2019 time period and while WN doesn't currently serve DEN nonstop from BHM, I think that the F9 route planners were thinking that WN adding BHM-DEN nonstop service might happen with WN's plans to significantly expand at DEN and that F9 would not be able to sustain BHM-DEN nonstop service once WN adds BHM-DEN nonstop service.

WN also still serves LAS, MCO, and TPA nonstop from the BHM market, and BHM is one of the few U.S. airports with nonstop service to Florida on WN that isn't served by any ULCC's. There are a few other U.S. airports such as MDW, DAL, HOU, MHT, and DCA that have nonstop service to Florida on WN but not any ULCC's, but MDW, DAL, HOU, MHT, and DCA are all near airports that do have nonstop service to Florida on at least one ULCC.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:49 pm

keesje wrote:
Never flew them, but they seem to have negative image in terms of comfort, service. Is that correct?


I do not agree! Then again, both times that I flew them in 2019, I paid the extra nickel for "The Works" package & sat up front. For a pair of three-hour flights, I thought that those seats--with their legroom--felt just fine.

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Demand for F9 service out of CVG has also been decreasing since its peak in July 2017.


That's a shame, but it seems that the dip in Frontier ridership at CVG corresponds with Southwest's increase in service.
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:50 pm

jplatts wrote:
Demand for F9 service out of CVG has also been decreasing since its peak in July 2017.


That's a shame, but it seems that the dip in Frontier ridership at CVG corresponds with Southwest's increase in service.[/quote]

I suspect you are correct in Southwest having an impact on the F9 ridership. Allegiant began service in CVG too, and that has made things more competitive also.

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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:01 am

What’s the deal with F9 in Tulsa? It looks like they’re flying a few flights a week from May to August then dropping back out. Are they going seasonal? They seem to have come in and out of Tulsa a few times and never seem to stick. I hope this time they make it work and add frequencies from places outside of Denver.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:26 am

usdcaguy wrote:
What’s the deal with F9 in Tulsa? It looks like they’re flying a few flights a week from May to August then dropping back out. Are they going seasonal? They seem to have come in and out of Tulsa a few times and never seem to stick. I hope this time they make it work and add frequencies from places outside of Denver.


The schedule only goes out to early August. Tulsa already had Southwest and United and the fares were reasonable before Frontier.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:22 pm

Did Frontier change its pricing model to encourage people to buy round trip prices?

I just got an email (many of you probably did too) saying they're bundling round trip fares and you can save more if you book round trip.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:18 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
Did Frontier change its pricing model to encourage people to buy round trip prices?

I just got an email (many of you probably did too) saying they're bundling round trip fares and you can save more if you book round trip.


My understanding is yes to another way of pricing their product. With the ULCCs one has to be sure to check all the nuances of their price structuring. Before a round trip ticket might be one fare on the outbound leg and a different fare on the return leg.

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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:02 pm

Frontier Airlines is discontinuing all service from Colorado Springs Airport.

Frontier operated 4 seasonal routes from COS to:
-Atlanta ATL
-Minneapolis MSP
-San Antonio SAT
-Washington D.C. IAD

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Front ... 98171.html
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:10 pm

avtcle wrote:
Frontier Airlines is discontinuing all service from Colorado Springs Airport.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Front ... 98171.html

That's not what the article said - LAS, PHX, and MCO will remain.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:23 pm

Frontier14 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Demand for F9 service out of CVG has also been decreasing since its peak in July 2017.


That's a shame, but it seems that the dip in Frontier ridership at CVG corresponds with Southwest's increase in service.


I suspect you are correct in Southwest having an impact on the F9 ridership. Allegiant began service in CVG too, and that has made things more competitive also.

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Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:34 pm

msycajun wrote:
avtcle wrote:
Frontier Airlines is discontinuing all service from Colorado Springs Airport.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Front ... 98171.html

That's not what the article said - LAS, PHX, and MCO will remain.


Thanks for correction.
 
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:04 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
Did Frontier change its pricing model to encourage people to buy round trip prices?

I just got an email (many of you probably did too) saying they're bundling round trip fares and you can save more if you book round trip.


One of the knocks against them from folks I know was "the first flight is cheap but they get you on the way home." I hear the same about Allegiant. They don't understand that they have to fly a Tues to tues for the best fare and a weekend fare will be more expensive. When the see 50 bucks on a tue, wed, Thursday to point B but 170 on Fri, Sat, Sun to come back, they balk. They do not view it as just $220 total, they think they arw getting hosed on the back end.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:20 am

Any word about another Frontier announcement? Typically it’s this week in January when Frontier rolls out additional summer 2020 routes.

I’d be surprised if their only additions for this coming summer are the MIA-carribean routes they announced in December.
 
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:29 pm

Frontier is pulling out of Lafayette Regional Airport, continuing a trend of the airline exiting smaller markets recently. Tyler, Birmingham, Mobile and now Lafayette.

LFT-DEN
LFT-MCO

Both went on a “seasonal hiatus” in October but Frontier just announced they would not return come summer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.klfy.c ... rport/amp/
 
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:02 pm

avtcle wrote:
Frontier is pulling out of Lafayette Regional Airport, continuing a trend of the airline exiting smaller markets recently. Tyler, Birmingham, Mobile and now Lafayette.

LFT-DEN
LFT-MCO

Both went on a “seasonal hiatus” in October but Frontier just announced they would not return come summer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.klfy.c ... rport/amp/


I had previously mentioned F9 adding RIC-DEN nonstop service with RIC being one of the largest markets without nonstop LCC service to DEN. RIC-DEN also had higher PDEW's than BHM-DEN, LFT-DEN, MOB/BFM-DEN, or TYR-DEN did in Q3 2019.

RIC-DEN nonstop service on F9 would likely stick unlike some of the recently dropped F9 nonstop routes out of DEN due to
(a) RIC having more demand to DEN than BHM, LFT, MOB/BFL, or TYR,
(b) RIC being located in a much bigger market than LFT, MOB/BFL, or TYR, and
(c) F9 still serving DEN nonstop from a few East Coast markets smaller than RIC.

Here are the PDEW's of DEN-RIC/BHM/LFT/MOB/BFM/TYR in Q3 2019:
DEN-RIC - 132
DEN-BHM - 111
DEN-MOB/BFM - 45
DEN-LFT - 33
DEN-TYR - 21

Here are the PDEW's of some other top routes out of DEN to destinations not currently served by F9:
DEN-AVL - 87
DEN-MAF - 71
DEN-ROC - 71
DEN-EUG - 62
DEN-RDM - 59
DEN-DRO - 56
DEN-MFR - 53
DEN-TVC - 51
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:07 pm

jplatts wrote:
avtcle wrote:
Frontier is pulling out of Lafayette Regional Airport, continuing a trend of the airline exiting smaller markets recently. Tyler, Birmingham, Mobile and now Lafayette.

LFT-DEN
LFT-MCO

Both went on a “seasonal hiatus” in October but Frontier just announced they would not return come summer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.klfy.c ... rport/amp/


I had previously mentioned F9 adding RIC-DEN nonstop service with RIC being one of the largest markets without nonstop LCC service to DEN. RIC-DEN also had higher PDEW's than BHM-DEN, LFT-DEN, MOB/BFM-DEN, or TYR-DEN did in Q3 2019.

RIC-DEN nonstop service on F9 would likely stick unlike some of the recently dropped F9 nonstop routes out of DEN due to
(a) RIC having more demand to DEN than BHM, LFT, MOB/BFL, or TYR,
(b) RIC being located in a much bigger market than LFT, MOB/BFL, or TYR, and
(c) F9 still serving DEN nonstop from a few East Coast markets smaller than RIC.

Here are the PDEW's of DEN-RIC/BHM/LFT/MOB/BFM/TYR in Q3 2019:
DEN-RIC - 132
DEN-BHM - 111
DEN-MOB/BFM - 45
DEN-LFT - 33
DEN-TYR - 21

Here are the PDEW's of some other top routes out of DEN to destinations not currently served by F9:
DEN-AVL - 87
DEN-MAF - 71
DEN-ROC - 71
DEN-EUG - 62
DEN-RDM - 59
DEN-DRO - 56
DEN-MFR - 53
DEN-TVC - 51

Do you know what MDT-DEN PDEW is? Probably a little misconstrued due to leakage to BWI, but it seems it’s not returning.
 
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:12 pm

Buddys747 wrote:
Do you know what MDT-DEN PDEW is? Probably a little misconstrued due to leakage to BWI, but it seems it’s not returning.


The PDEW on MDT-DEN was 74 passengers per day in Q3 2019.
 
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Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:02 am

jplatts wrote:
Buddys747 wrote:
Do you know what MDT-DEN PDEW is? Probably a little misconstrued due to leakage to BWI, but it seems it’s not returning.


The PDEW on MDT-DEN was 74 passengers per day in Q3 2019.

Thanks for that! I guess 3x weekly flights wasn’t getting enough revenue to satisfy them. They’d rather battle it out in BWI against WN, UA and NK. I’m sure it could have done better with a midday turn instead of the 6a departure and 1-2 more frequencies. We had a pretty full flight in early November when I flew DEN-MDT.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:23 pm

https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/01 ... ew-castle/

Frontier is returning to Wilmington-New Castle after cutting all flights from the airport.

A service announcement is scheduled for Tuesday. Destinations/frequencies unknown.

Perhaps we’ll see Frontier roll out the rest of their domestic flight adds for Summer 2020 Tuesday as well?
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:59 pm

avtcle wrote:
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/01/frontier-airlines-to-announce-service-from-wilmington-new-castle/

Frontier is returning to Wilmington-New Castle after cutting all flights from the airport.

A service announcement is scheduled for Tuesday. Destinations/frequencies unknown.

Perhaps we’ll see Frontier roll out the rest of their domestic flight adds for Summer 2020 Tuesday as well?


F9 will probably re-add ILG-DEN nonstop service as F9 is able to make nonstop service to DEN work from more than one airport in other markets where F9 serves more than one airport such as LAX/SNA/ONT, MIA/FLL, SFO/SJC, and DCA/IAD/BWI. F9 has also re-added nonstop service to DEN from most of the markets that it re-entered in the last 3 years.

Here are the load factors for F9 nonstop flights out of DEN to the LAX/SNA/ONT, MIA/FLL, SFO/SJC, and WAS markets in the January 2019 - October 2019 time period:
DEN-BWI - 90.07%
DEN-DCA - 85.73%
DEN-FLL - 88.42%
DEN-IAD - 83.66%
DEN-LAX - 90.75%
DEN-MIA - 87.43%
DEN-ONT - 85.95%
DEN-SFO - 87.81%
DEN-SJC - 84.74%
DEN-SNA - 90.44%
 
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:08 pm

avtcle wrote:
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/01/frontier-airlines-to-announce-service-from-wilmington-new-castle/

Frontier is returning to Wilmington-New Castle after cutting all flights from the airport.

A service announcement is scheduled for Tuesday. Destinations/frequencies unknown.

Perhaps we’ll see Frontier roll out the rest of their domestic flight adds for Summer 2020 Tuesday as well?

Yay, Delaware is finally getting air service back! For reference, I believe they served ILG-ATL/DTW/MDW/IAH/DEN/MCO/TPA/RSW last time, according to A.net archives. F9 doesn't seem to be too interested with IAH/DTW nowadays, and I'd think that they'd hold out on serving most Florida routes until winter, so my cautious guess as to what they'll do now is ILG-DEN/MCO, with an outside chance of LAS.
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Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:37 pm

I will venture to say that MCO will most likely be on the destination list from ILG.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:04 pm

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I will venture to say that MCO will most likely be on the destination list from ILG.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:47 pm

Guess I better get in on this sooner rather than later this time. Have three states left to fly an airline to. (WY, VT, DE). Hope it works well for them this time around.
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:05 pm

sprxUSA wrote:
Guess I better get in on this sooner rather than later this time. Have three states left to fly an airline to. (WY, VT, DE). Hope it works well for them this time around.

They fly to JAC in WY and BTV in VT. So I think you meant Hawaii and Alaska in addition to Deleware. ILG in DE is supposed to be announced on Tuesday.
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm

I'm hoping they already regret their decision to only fly BOS-RDU (5 airlines) instead of PVD (zero airlines and historical F9 Fare and and load factor data that never lagged both BOS and BDL)

AA DL and B6 are all $65-90 each way so even at $39 plus a carry on bag, F9 isn't undercutting anyone at BOS.
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:27 pm

dabpit wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
Guess I better get in on this sooner rather than later this time. Have three states left to fly an airline to. (WY, VT, DE). Hope it works well for them this time around.

They fly to JAC in WY and BTV in VT. So I think you meant Hawaii and Alaska in addition to Deleware. ILG in DE is supposed to be announced on Tuesday.


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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:13 pm

https://www.flydataguy.com/2020/01/how- ... anged.html

Interesting write up on F9's ever changing network

https://thepointsguy.com/news/frontier- ... ew-routes/
I'm sure AA will love this, PHL-BOS/ORD/LAX

"The Denver-based ultra-low-cost carrier will add seasonal nonstop flights between Philadelphia (PHL) and Boston (BOS), Chicago O’Hare and Los Angeles (LAX), Frontier unveiled Wednesday. The Boston and Los Angeles routes will feature daily service while and the Chicago route will operate on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays."
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