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Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:45 pm

Welcome to the Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2020. Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:41 am

So besides A321s to Delta: what else is expected as CEO deliveries in 2020
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:47 am

Someone83 wrote:
So besides A321s to Delta: what else is expected as CEO deliveries in 2020


To answer your question please see the following post from the previous thread:

speedygonzales wrote:
Not a lot of activity in November, only the last Gecas order delivered to Viva Colombia.

November CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
November: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 deliveries (Viva Colombia)
A321: No Change

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:46 am

2 A319's should be delivered this year at minimum.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:10 pm

Remaining 'real' orders seem to be:
A319: 5 UFO for China (at least Tibet, possibly other airlines)
A320: 1 for Thai government, 4 for Chengdu
A321: 31 for Delta
Not sure how many of those will be delivered this year.
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:40 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
Remaining 'real' orders seem to be:
A319: 5 UFO for China (at least Tibet, possibly other airlines)
A320: 1 for Thai government, 4 for Chengdu
A321: 31 for Delta
Not sure how many of those will be delivered this year.

Delta plans to have neos arriving Q4 and wants CEOs done before that.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:33 am

Update:
Airbus A320-214 9304 B-30DW Chengdu Airlines delivery 31dec19-01jan20 XFW-TSE-CTU ex D-AUBC
Airbus A320-214 9329 B-30DX Chengdu Airlines delivery 03-04jan20 XFW-TSE-CTU ex D-AUBP
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:58 am

A320CEO backlock according to Dec. 2019 O&D. (realistic backlog)
A319 (5)
UFO (Tibet) - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320 (15)
UFO - 2
Private / Business Jet - 1
CASC - 1
Iran air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Ural Air - 7

A321 (31)
Delta Airlines - 31
Iran air - 7

Total A320CEO backlog is 66 planes, 13 of these are blocked by the Iran trade ban. Also two A319's for Hamburg International are unlikely to be deliverd. Thus I think the realistic backlog is 51 CEO's.
Possibly only the A320CEO has multiple airlines awaiting deliveries.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:55 am

CFRPwingALbody wrote:
A320CEO backlock according to Dec. 2019 O&D. (realistic backlog)
A319 (5)
UFO (Tibet) - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320 (15)
UFO - 2
Private / Business Jet - 1
CASC - 1
Iran air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Ural Air - 7

A321 (31)
Delta Airlines - 31
Iran air - 7

Total A320CEO backlog is 66 planes, 13 of these are blocked by the Iran trade ban. Also two A319's for Hamburg International are unlikely to be deliverd. Thus I think the realistic backlog is 51 CEO's.
Possibly only the A320CEO has multiple airlines awaiting deliveries.

Whats the plane for the Iran orders roll them over to NEO's to shut down the CEO line, produce them and let them sit, cancel the orders?
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:24 am

CFRPwingALbody wrote:
A320CEO backlock according to Dec. 2019 O&D. (realistic backlog)
A319 (5)
UFO (Tibet) - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320 (15)
UFO - 2
Private / Business Jet - 1
CASC - 1
Iran air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Ural Air - 7

A321 (31)
Delta Airlines - 31
Iran air - 7

Total A320CEO backlog is 66 planes, 13 of these are blocked by the Iran trade ban. Also two A319's for Hamburg International are unlikely to be deliverd. Thus I think the realistic backlog is 51 CEO's.
Possibly only the A320CEO has multiple airlines awaiting deliveries.



Mexicana are also defunct. Those 4 frames need to be removed also.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:47 am

December CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
Nov: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77
Dec: 7 + 21 + 38 = 66

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 2 deliveries (Chengdu x 2)
A321: 1 delivery (Delta), 8 cancellations (UTAir)

Total deliveries in 2019 was 4 A319, 49 A320 and 38 A321.

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
Iran Air - 7
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:02 pm

Sorry I didn't know Mexicana has ceased operations as well. They are in a comparable situation as Hamburg International. Airbus can't renegotiate orders with a client that doesn't exist anymore. I expect this will result in four less A320CEO being produced.
So realistic A320CEO backlog is AFAIK at 47.

For the Iran Airlines orders for 6x A320, 7x A321 (32x A320NEO, 8x A330-200 and 28x A330-900) they are postponed indefinetly untill the USA lifts the trade ban. I think these orders will remain in the orderbook untill the USA lifts the trade ban. Than the contracts have to be renegotiated, this could mean dropped or converted to NEO. I expect is fare to assume these won't be delivered as CEO's.
But oddly Iran Air is operating 6x A320CEO and 2x A330-200 without any direct delivery. I expect Iran Air will get their planes via secondary market untill the ban is lifted.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:03 pm

pugman211 wrote:
CFRPwingALbody wrote:
A320CEO backlock according to Dec. 2019 O&D. (realistic backlog)
A319 (5)
UFO (Tibet) - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320 (15)
UFO - 2
Private / Business Jet - 1
CASC - 1
Iran air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Ural Air - 7

A321 (31)
Delta Airlines - 31
Iran air - 7

Total A320CEO backlog is 66 planes, 13 of these are blocked by the Iran trade ban. Also two A319's for Hamburg International are unlikely to be deliverd. Thus I think the realistic backlog is 51 CEO's.
Possibly only the A320CEO has multiple airlines awaiting deliveries.



Mexicana are also defunct. Those 4 frames need to be removed also.

From the previous year’s thread the Ural Air order was also said to be a no-go.

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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:17 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
pugman211 wrote:
CFRPwingALbody wrote:
A320CEO backlock according to Dec. 2019 O&D. (realistic backlog)
A319 (5)
UFO (Tibet) - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320 (15 4)
UFO - 2
Private / Business Jet - 1
CASC - 1
Iran air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Ural Air - 7

A321 (31)
Delta Airlines - 31
Iran air - 7

Total A320CEO backlog is 66 planes, 13 of these are blocked by the Iran trade ban. Also two A319's for Hamburg International are unlikely to be deliverd. Thus I think the realistic backlog is 51 CEO's.
Possibly only the A320CEO has multiple airlines awaiting deliveries.

Mexicana are also defunct. Those 4 frames need to be removed also.

From the previous year’s thread the Ural Air order was also said to be a no-go.

V/F

Virgin Flyer; can you elaborate the reason why Ural Airlines most likely won't take their A320CEO's?
I think the situation around Airbus orders from Ural Airlines is odd. (as is the situation around airlines from Iran)
They have only ordered 7x A320CEO but non of them have been delivered. But they operate: 5x A319, 24x A320, 15x A321, 3x A320NEO and a A321NEO according to Airbus Dec. 2019 O&D file.
It happens more often that an Airline operates more planes than that they have ordered directly, because they lease planes from lessors. But the situation that only leased planes are taken and no direct deliveries is only seen at Iran Air. But there the numbers nearly match, with Ural they operate a much larger number of airplanes than they have ordered (with no deliveries).

If all unrealistic deliveries are taken out the realistic backlog is: 5x A319, 4x A320 and 31x A321. or 40 in total.
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:34 pm

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Virgin Flyer; can you elaborate the reason why Ural Airlines most likely won't take their A320CEO's?

No, I don’t know why. It was something that was stated in last year’s thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1412749 but no specific reason was given. Perhaps someone else may have more insight?

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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:11 am

Another A321ceo delivered to Delta:
Airbus A321 -211 9360 N398DN Delta Air Lines delivery 18jan20 BFM-MSP ex F-WZMF
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Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:58 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
CFRPwingALbody wrote:
Virgin Flyer; can you elaborate the reason why Ural Airlines most likely won't take their A320CEO's?

No, I don’t know why. It was something that was stated in last year’s thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1412749 but no specific reason was given. Perhaps someone else may have more insight?

V/F

Ural Airlines placed the seven A320ceo order back in 2007 directly from Airbus, but have never take delivery of any. https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... a320s.html

Their current A320-A321ceo fleet are all used. Their A320neo/A321neo are also leased. They are planning to add B737MAX as well. Suffice to say these seven will never see delivery.
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:28 am

According to Eurospot, MSN9313, that is going to Thai Air Force, is the last CEO built in Toulouse

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 474078447/
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:43 am

January CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
Nov: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77
Dec: 7 + 21 + 38 = 66
2020:
Jan: 7 + 21 + 37 = 65

January changes:
A319: No change
A320: No change
A321: 1 delivery (Delta)


Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 30
Iran Air - 7
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:27 am

Another A320ceo off the list, the mystery behind the Private order is now solved.

Airbus A320-214 9313 HS-TYW Royal Thai Air Force ferried 14feb20 TLS-HAM, regd F-WJKH for cabin config ex F-WWIC
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2, https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9313

Delta took another A321-211 MSN 9409 N101DQ
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Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:58 am

Which one (MSN, type) will become the last ever CEO rolls out of the FALs?
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Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:15 am

Antaras wrote:
Which one (MSN, type) will become the last ever CEO rolls out of the FALs?


Likely a Delta A321, but the MSN is still to far out to know.
 
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Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:17 am

Next for Delta delivered

Airbus A321 -211 9057 N389DN Delta Air Lines delivery 21feb20 XFW-KEF-YYR-MCI
 
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Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:11 am

Someone83 wrote:
Next for Delta delivered

Airbus A321 -211 9057 N389DN Delta Air Lines delivery 21feb20 XFW-KEF-YYR-MCI


Actually it flew XFW-KEF-YUL-SAL. Completely bypassed the U.S. anybody have any idea why? Maybe because of the tariffs?
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:41 pm

February CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
Nov: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77
Dec: 7 + 21 + 38 = 66
2020:
Jan: 7 + 21 + 37 = 65
Feb: 7 + 20 + 35 = 62

February changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 delivery (Thai Airforce)
A321: 2 deliveries (Delta)


Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 28
Iran Air - 7
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:00 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 28
Iran Air - 7


Thanks Speedy G.
So in reality only 28 units for Delta is left on the books? Could the 7 UFO's and the 1 for CASC possible also see delivery?
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:06 pm

The only CEO 's I'm seeing at the moment are for Delta (A321's) and Tibet airlines (A319's)
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:10 pm

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The only CEO 's I'm seeing at the moment are for Delta (A321's) and Tibet airlines (A319's)


And the CASC
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:33 am

Sad to see those A320 couldnt delivery to Iran
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:48 am

chiad wrote:
speedygonzales wrote:
Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 28
Iran Air - 7


Thanks Speedy G.
So in reality only 28 units for Delta is left on the books? Could the 7 UFO's and the 1 for CASC possible also see delivery?

Hamburg International, Mexicana are dead as the airlines do not exist any more.
Ural Air will not take them up.
Iran Air ...embargo, so no.

The 28x A321 for Delta; no doubt, they will be produced and taken up.
The 5x UFO A319 will be most likely taken up, as these are essential needed for high and hot in China, they will go to Tibet. There is no other plane to do this now; likely later on the A319 neo and A220-100, but I am not sure, are these already certified for extreme high and hot? So, if all 5 goes to China, than these will be taken up.

The two A320 UFO will also go to China? They will likely taken up as also the CASC order.
I hope, everyone can see the difference between "most likely" to "likely" and I just do not understand, why CASC has not already taken it up. But CASC is the state owned Chinese Space Program contractor and Chinese "state controlled" orders will often taken up slow, but they will be taken.

So 36x (5x A319, 3x A320 and 28x A321) are still pending.
And 26x (2x A310, 17x A320 and 7x A321) are crying "I am a zombie".
 
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Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:47 pm

Next A321 ceo to Delta delivered today according to Skyliner

Airbus A321 -211 9485 N102DN Delta Air Lines delivery 12mar20 BFM-MSP
 
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Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:44 am

March CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
Nov: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77
Dec: 7 + 21 + 38 = 66
2020:
Jan: 7 + 21 + 37 = 65
Feb: 7 + 20 + 35 = 62
Mar: 7 + 20 + 34 = 61

March changes:
A319: No change
A320: No change
A321: 1 delivery (Delta)


Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 27
Iran Air - 7
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:35 pm

Given the mess of things that COVID made, what are our thoughts on how many of these units actually see the light of day? I don't think that Delta will back out of it's orders as it still needs to replace older frames with its purchase. Its reasonable to expect China to take the A319s and A320s they have on order. I don't see where any of the others orders ever fill...
 
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LightningZ71 wrote:
Given the mess of things that COVID made, what are our thoughts on how many of these units actually see the light of day? I don't think that Delta will back out of it's orders as it still needs to replace older frames with its purchase. Its reasonable to expect China to take the A319s and A320s they have on order. I don't see where any of the others orders ever fill...


I think it was already mentioned that Delta and the Chinese Customers are the only remaining CEO customers. The other ones listed above won't ever fulfill their orders regardless of COVID-19.

This can also be seen on the great AIB Family Flights site:

https://aibfamily.flights/search?a320_h ... amily=A320
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:09 pm

I think the only left for delivery:
5x A319 UFO (Tibet)
3x A320 2x UFO & 1x CASC
Several A321 to Delta.

I expect Delta and Airbus are renegociating the A220 and A320 delivery schedule.
I think both parties benefit from a order conversion & later delivery for A321CEO's not jet in production to A321NEO or A321XLR.
With Airbus mobile FAL stoped untill end April, the import tarifs can't be avoided.
The Covid-19 pandamic will probably result in redused flight demand untill atleast end 2020. Thus Delta probably doesn't require the A321CEO's.
With A321 rampup going slower than expected Airbus has been delivering A32xNEO late. Covid-19 hampered production for several weeks thus increased the late delivery problem.
By converting A321CEO to A321NEO with later deliveries from Mobile the problems are solved for Airbus and Delta. But the problem lies with renegociating the engine contract.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:50 am

Maybe Delta could negotiate to take the engines that have already been produced for the CEOs that they don't take up as spares for the rest of the fleet?
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:16 am

LightningZ71 wrote:
Maybe Delta could negotiate to take the engines that have already been produced for the CEOs that they don't take up as spares for the rest of the fleet?

Its probably not necessary to do that if Delta rolled over their CEO orders into NEO orders and kick delivery further down the road.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:54 am

flee wrote:
LightningZ71 wrote:
Maybe Delta could negotiate to take the engines that have already been produced for the CEOs that they don't take up as spares for the rest of the fleet?

Its probably not necessary to do that if Delta rolled over their CEO orders into NEO orders and kick delivery further down the road.


Isn’t there probably an issue here that «ceo-specific» parts for these aircraft probably already has been made, when looking at the delivery schedule for their remaining ceos?
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:14 am

Delta have quite a bit of CEO parts already built, I imagine it will be deferrals
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:01 am

May CEO backlog update (no change in April):
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
Nov: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77
Dec: 7 + 21 + 38 = 66
2020:
Jan: 7 + 21 + 37 = 65
Feb: 7 + 20 + 35 = 62
Mar: 7 + 20 + 34 = 61
Apr: 7 + 20 + 34 = 61
May: 6 + 20 + 34 = 60

May changes:
A319: 1 delivery (Tibet)
A320: No change
A321: No change


Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 4
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
UFO - 2
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 27
Iran Air - 7
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:47 pm

Airbus A319 -115 9448 B-30ER Tibet Airlines onward delivery 16jun20 TSN-LXA ex D-AVWD

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:01 am

Delta A321ceo N103DY MSN 9538, fourth test flight BFM-BFM (26 Jun)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/f-wzmq
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Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:59 am

Chengdu Airlines A320ceo MSN 8597, ferried XFW-DRS for storage (30 Jun)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-auah
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:32 am

Delta Airlines A321ceo N106DN MSN 10088, taxi test and RTO plus first flight BFM-BFM (2 Jul)

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Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Delta Airlines A321ceo N108DN MSN 10003, out of paint at XFW (12 Jul)

ImageD-AVZQ A321 10003 Delta Air Lines fcs (1008 on tail, nwd) by Dan Raistrick, on Flickr
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:54 am

Delta Airlines A321ceo N105DX MSN 10030, first test flight BFM-BFM (24 Jul)

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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:35 pm

I am surprised, it has been missed.
A319-115SL, Tibet Airlines, B-000M, B-1010 (MSN 8841)
Already performed the delivery flight on 17-Aug-2020.
https://aibfamily.flights/A320/8841
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:34 am

so 3 A319 to go...
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:03 am

T4thH wrote:
I am surprised, it has been missed.
A319-115SL, Tibet Airlines, B-000M, B-1010 (MSN 8841)
Already performed the delivery flight on 17-Aug-2020.
https://aibfamily.flights/A320/8841


Why is it recorded as 1.4 years old and delivered april 2019?
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... nes/r1plng
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:01 pm

T4thH wrote:
I am surprised, it has been missed.
A319-115SL, Tibet Airlines, B-000M, B-1010 (MSN 8841)
Already performed the delivery flight on 17-Aug-2020.
https://aibfamily.flights/A320/8841

danipawa wrote:
so 3 A319 to go...

chiad wrote:
T4thH wrote:
I am surprised, it has been missed.
A319-115SL, Tibet Airlines, B-000M, B-1010 (MSN 8841)
Already performed the delivery flight on 17-Aug-2020.
https://aibfamily.flights/A320/8841


Why is it recorded as 1.4 years old and delivered april 2019?
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... nes/r1plng

Technically there are still 4 A319 UFOs left, because MSN 8841 was already delivered on contract on 23rd April 2019 according to https://aibfamily.flights/A320/8841 , and MSN 9448 on 29 May 2020, see https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9448 .

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