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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:32 pm

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Any comments?

Yes, clearly 3 TK planes nearby.
at 17:00 mark, on the left there is one between two Vistara's, and on the right there is the second one next to the Norwegian 787.
at 18:20 mark you can see a 3rd TK 787 near the top of the frame, that could be the 10th TK, white but not totally painted.

Very small chance, that 3rd one is not a 787 but the final TK 777F TC-LJT???
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:56 pm

Rest in peace Koby Bryant, he really helped TK to be the airline it is now...
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:09 am

TK787 wrote:
mafaky wrote:

Any comments?

Yes, clearly 3 TK planes nearby.
at 17:00 mark, on the left there is one between two Vistara's, and on the right there is the second one next to the Norwegian 787.
at 18:20 mark you can see a 3rd TK 787 near the top of the frame, that could be the 10th TK, white but not totally painted.

Very small chance, that 3rd one is not a 787 but the final TK 777F TC-LJT???


And here is a picture I got on Jan 18th of another TK 787 which was replaced by the WestJet 787 you can see at 18:20. Presumably this is the latest one that was delivered this week.
So it does look like the 10th TK 787 rolled out fully painted.

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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:47 am

The other day I was told Air Serbia's LF to IST until the end of winter is 82%. No wonder they want to go daily in summer, seems like they can't get the slots they want.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:47 am

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AirbusA343 wrote:
It was supposed to have 4x A332s and 3x A321s on that particular flight. Now it's going to have a daily A330-300, that's a decent-sized increase if you ask me.

And, which version of the 333s in TK's fleet? The ex-Skymark ones (7 frames, with "recliner" type of J seats), which are mostly used in regional routes actually can carry 305 pax., more seats than the other 333s can do.

I'm not sure which configuration but I imagine it's going to be a different one each day, knowing TK!

TC-JZG is back in Tirana while JZH is now in SAW.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:28 pm

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/12 ... 2218946560

I could find this photo of the 3rd TK 787 at KPAE, number 10, partially painted/no engines.
Number 11 should be days behind.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:36 pm

Regarding the ex Norwegian 737-800s being delivered to mainline TK, what interior do these 737s have? Is it something similar to the NEO/MAX?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:46 am

itripreport wrote:
Regarding the ex Norwegian 737-800s being delivered to mainline TK, what interior do these 737s have? Is it something similar to the NEO/MAX?

Afaik, there's only one ex-Norwegian 738 frame that has entered TK's mainline fleet (red tails), and that's the TC-JZN with a single class cabin/186 seats.

All others have gone/will be going to AnadoluJet (blue tails).

All these ex-Norwegian 738s are relatively young frames (around 6 yo), single class cabins with 186 seats and all should have Boeing's Sky Interior cabin design.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:49 pm

TK787 wrote:
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/1220834562218946560

I could find this photo of the 3rd TK 787 at KPAE, number 10, partially painted/no engines.
Number 11 should be days behind.


So far, non of them were produced in Charleston.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:02 pm

kayik wrote:
TK787 wrote:
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/1220834562218946560

I could find this photo of the 3rd TK 787 at KPAE, number 10, partially painted/no engines.
Number 11 should be days behind.


So far, non of them were produced in Charleston.


Given the negative press coverage surrounding the Charleston plant, I am not surprised.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:41 pm

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So far, non of them were produced in Charleston.

Not sure how I got this in my head but I got the impression that all will be coming from Everett.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:55 pm

I thought BOS was going to switch to the 787-9 this year, but the on-line timetable shows it as a A333 all the way through. :?:
https://my.flightradar24.com/ChrisNH
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:22 pm

TK787 wrote:
kayik wrote:
So far, non of them were produced in Charleston.

Not sure how I got this in my head but I got the impression that all will be coming from Everett.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Under all known circumstancesI can swear that all 7 delivered so far plus 3 on the delivery line have been/will be delivered to TK personnel at Everett!!! :D :o
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:21 pm

TC-LLH, 8th TK787 just landed after its 4th test flight today. Still delivery set for Feb20, not sure why it is going to take this long.
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/12 ... 2877742080
By the way, just like I mentioned earlier, future TK 787s, all the way up to the 15th frame, will be assembled in Everett.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:01 pm

TK787 wrote:
TC-LLH, 8th TK787 just landed after its 4th test flight today. Still delivery set for Feb20, not sure why it is going to take this long.
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/12 ... 2877742080
By the way, just like I mentioned earlier, future TK 787s, all the way up to the 15th frame, will be assembled in Everett.

Could it be that its waiting for its new J seat?
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:00 am

gokmengs wrote:
Could it be that its waiting for its new J seat?

That was my wishful thinking also but I have doubts.
TK is trying to save money and changing the J seats on the 787/350 fleet could not be on top of their list.
I imagine they would love to put Turkish manufactured seats on them, but they are not ready.
So, I am not sure why the long wait but maybe not that long anyway. The original delivery plan was 2 in Feb and 2 in March. So far, it looks to be on time.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:54 am

It's official, starting from the 2020 summer season Air Serbia increases IST from 3 to 7. Flights have already been loaded into the system.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:35 pm

I do not know any rumors of news but I expect TK to suspend flights to China very soon. I wonder if Taipei and HKG will also be included.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:05 pm

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I do not know any rumors of news but I expect TK to suspend flights to China very soon. I wonder if Taipei and HKG will also be included.


I wonder how HKG is performing for TK right now given that many airlines are struggling. Maybe they can use the virus as an excuse to reduce operations without citing bad financial performance on the market.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:59 pm

HKG margin most likely suffers. This year I booked Europe to Asia tickets for Christmas very late, intending to go to BKK, KUL or SIN. HKG was the only destination in the region with high availability of discounted fares or upgrades, so I ended up routing myself via Hong Kong.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Turkish Airlines crew to wear masks, gloves on China flights as coronavirus spreads


As the deadly coronavirus continues to claim lives across China, Europe’s leading carrier Turkish Airlines has decided to implement new health measures to secure the safety of its crew and passengers alike.

Flight attendants traveling to and from Shanghai, Guangzhou, Xi’an, Hong Kong and Taiwan are now permitted to don protective gloves and face-masks while carrying out their respective tasks.

Furthermore, it was announced that masks and gloves would be distributed in outbound cargo flights departing from Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport.

https://m.yenisafak.com/en/world/turkis ... ds-3510728
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:44 pm

I was on the HKG-IST flight that landed this morning. Almost totally full. EVERYONE wearing masks, lots and lots of children and their parents trying to get out. Lots of Hong Kongers and Mainlanders. Crew all wore masks. All China flights were around the end of the A pier (HKG was A7) and temperature controlled before entering the end of the A Pier towards transit and passport control.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:25 pm

calstanford wrote:
I was on the HKG-IST flight that landed this morning. Almost totally full. EVERYONE wearing masks, lots and lots of children and their parents trying to get out. Lots of Hong Kongers and Mainlanders. Crew all wore masks. All China flights were around the end of the A pier (HKG was A7) and temperature controlled before entering the end of the A Pier towards transit and passport control.


And what percentage of this flight's pax were on transfer (approximately)? (If you were ending your journey at Istanbul, you could observe the picture at baggage claim carousel...)
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:13 pm

More from KPAE;
Definitely 3 x TK 787s and a unpainted TK 77F, TC-LJT:
http://www.paineairport.com/kpae18123d.htm
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:05 pm

TK had 3 flights most days between Lgw and Ist, both airports. They also had a daily flight Lgw to Ayt.

They now have transferred one of the flights, Lgw to Saw from Lgw to Stn, being flown by Anadolujet. The slots for this flight seem to have been transferred to the Ayt flight. A new service to Dlm is being started, but using different slots. So TK seems to have given up 7 weekly slots at Lgw. Can anyone here explain what their thinking might be?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:45 am

mafaky wrote:
calstanford wrote:
I was on the HKG-IST flight that landed this morning. Almost totally full. EVERYONE wearing masks, lots and lots of children and their parents trying to get out. Lots of Hong Kongers and Mainlanders. Crew all wore masks. All China flights were around the end of the A pier (HKG was A7) and temperature controlled before entering the end of the A Pier towards transit and passport control.


And what percentage of this flight's pax were on transfer (approximately)? (If you were ending your journey at Istanbul, you could observe the picture at baggage claim carousel...)


I would guesstimate transfers in the 80 +% range. My luggage was already on the carousel when I got through immigration. Maybe 5 other people there at the time and most luggage out. It wasn’t a lot. Based on all the folks walking by the smaller business cabin it was mostly Chinese and Hkers followed by a mix of typical IST transfer pax (I overheard russian, some French, Hebrew)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:34 am

EgyptAir have announced plans to increase CAI-IST from 2 to 3x daily in S20. The overnight flight (MS745/746) will be operated with the A220.

MS737 CAIIST 09:40 13:00 1234567 32N
MS735 CAIIST 14:15 17:35 1234567 738
MS745 CAIIST 23:30 02:50 1234567 220

MS746 ISTCAI 04:30 05:45 1234567 220
MS738 ISTCAI 14:00 15:15 1234567 32N
MS736 ISTCAI 18:35 19:50 1234567 738

Nile Air also operate a 6pw CAI-SAW service:

NP191 CAISAW 11:50 15:05 12345_7 320
NP192 SAWCAI 16:05 17:10 12345_7 320

Egyptian carriers will operate 27x weekly flights between Cairo and Istanbul versus TK’s 21 flights. Is TK planning to add a 4th daily flight to CAI or perhaps PC will launch CAI?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:19 pm

So, TK officially announces reduction to China flights, due to decreased demand, between Feb5-Feb29.
No details yet but I still think they will eventually feel the pressure and stop all China/HKG/TPE flights like all major carriers.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:42 pm

Finally, a week after its delivery flight, TK's 7th 787 TC-LLG is on a revenue flight to Ankara:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY ... /LTFM/LTAC
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:12 pm

The Incorporation has decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to Aktau and Atyrau of Kazakhstan.

Source:
https://www.kap.org.tr/en/Bildirim/814819
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:16 pm

As expected, TK suspends China flights (joining 3 dozen other airlines), details to follow.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:54 pm

TK787 wrote:
As expected, TK suspends China flights (joining 3 dozen other airlines), details to follow.

From TK website: "Flights to Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, and Xi'an will be halted until February 9th"
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:10 pm

mafaky wrote:

And what percentage of this flight's pax were on transfer (approximately)? (If you were ending your journey at Istanbul, you could observe the picture at baggage claim carousel...)


HKG route was 54% international connection as of Q3 2019. Compares to 68% for PEK and 65% PVG for same period.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:37 am

LAXintl wrote:
HKG route was 54% international connection as of Q3 2019. Compares to 68% for PEK and 65% PVG for same period.

Tkvm. for this info... Can you also provide the figures for CAN & TPE?

And, if possible, can you list the top 5 destinations (to and from) these 5 cities in SEAsia.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:41 am

LAXintl wrote:
mafaky wrote:

And what percentage of this flight's pax were on transfer (approximately)? (If you were ending your journey at Istanbul, you could observe the picture at baggage claim carousel...)


HKG route was 54% international connection as of Q3 2019. Compares to 68% for PEK and 65% PVG for same period.


I think it was you who posted some years ago about the split between locals and transfers for many TK destinations. Those were great.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:18 pm

CAN was 63% international transfer. For some reason I dont show TPE on my report.

Top connection markets:
CAN: ALG, TLV, KBP, VCE, ODS
HKG:TLV, DUS, VCE, HAM, MUC
PEK: STR, ALG, ODS, MUC, TLV
PVG: DUS, STR, MUC, TLV, OTP
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:20 pm

LAXintl wrote:
CAN was 63% international transfer. For some reason I dont show TPE on my report.

Top connection markets:
CAN: ALG, TLV, KBP, VCE, ODS
HKG:TLV, DUS, VCE, HAM, MUC
PEK: STR, ALG, ODS, MUC, TLV
PVG: DUS, STR, MUC, TLV, OTP


Do you happen to have those information for TK in BEG?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:28 pm

TK will plan to renew the cabins of its B77W? its B77W fly many competitive routes a new configuration would be ideal, introduce a business cabin like DL or NH
CX - JL - LH - KE - KL - SQ - QR - QF - TG
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:29 pm

LAXintl wrote:
CAN was 63% international transfer. For some reason I dont show TPE on my report.

Top connection markets:
CAN: ALG, TLV, KBP, VCE, ODS
HKG:TLV, DUS, VCE, HAM, MUC
PEK: STR, ALG, ODS, MUC, TLV
PVG: DUS, STR, MUC, TLV, OTP


IATA does not consider TPE a part of China, wouldn't be included in a China report.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:29 pm

Blerg wrote:

Do you happen to have those information for TK in BEG?


65% beyond international transfer rate. Top 10 markets via TK: DXB, GYD, PEK, JNB, PVG, AMM, CAI, AUH, NBO, BKK

aldrigsomandre wrote:

IATA does not consider TPE a part of China, wouldn't be included in a China report.


Has nothing to do with IATA. TPE data simply not populated.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:16 pm

Hate to cut this short but...
Please continue here: Turkish Aviation February 2020

*Moderators, please archive this thread, since I've started a new one. Thank you.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:21 pm

I figured this would be the best place for a question I have after playing around FR24.

Turkish Airlines flight from PVG- FRU (Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan) TK 6475 departing 4:15am (scheduled). A330 aircraft.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk6475

Turkish Airlines flight from CAN- FRU TK 6539 Depart 4:50 am A330 aircraft

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk6539

Both flights continue on to IST and were last flown Jan 25th. Looks like its a once a week routing. I tried dummy bookings to see if they run an eastbound IST-FRU-CAN/PVG but did find anything. What would be the purpose of these flights out of curiosity? Any insight would be appreciated.

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