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Ishrion wrote:Quick question - Is anyone else’s page on this thread being weird? Half of it is cut off and you need to scroll sideways. Or is it just me?
ctrabs0114 wrote:Ishrion wrote:Quick question - Is anyone else’s page on this thread being weird? Half of it is cut off and you need to scroll sideways. Or is it just me?
I'm having the same issue with the first page, but page 2 is fine so far. That's happened from time to time on other topics, but it's rare.
Aisak wrote:RvA wrote:If you offer someone FRA-LHR-SFO or FRA-PHL-SFO at similar price it’s likely the former is often slightly faster but also seen as more comfortable as you arrive at US customs in SFO and off you go to your hotel or whatever. Doing that in PHL first to then go through security again to then have to wait around again before you have to have another few hours of flying isn’t much fun.
Well, transferring though the UK is not much fun either. You have to reclear security as well at LHR to remain “airside”. And if you have to transfer from T5B/C to AA of some BA services at T3 or vv... not that simple either.
Clear US inmigration... yes, you have to do it any way you choose. At the end of the journey, midway at the first point of entry, or at preclereance stations like DUB/SNN... that’s a just a matter of personal preference.
usflyer msp wrote:RvA wrote:usflyer msp wrote:
Nonsense. AA is not particularly successful in Germany because most of the traffic has German point-of-sale and they prefer to fly German carriers. This is the case in most Northern European markets. AA does well in Southern and Eastern Europe because most of the traffic has a US point-of-sale and prefers to fly a US carrier. The inflight product has little to do with it.
Partially true though product Is very relevant in Aken customer segments so shouldn’t be ignored, it is also related to the destinations AA flies/flew from in the US. Competition on price is fierce so if for the same price someone can connect within Europe to then fly on to the final destination (or of course fly there direct from origin if possible) also makes a big difference. If you offer someone FRA-LHR-SFO or FRA-PHL-SFO at similar price it’s likely the former is often slightly faster but also seen as more comfortable as you arrive at US customs in SFO and off you go to your hotel or whatever. Doing that in PHL first to then go through security again to then have to wait around again before you have to have another few hours of flying isn’t much fun.
No really, point-of-sale is like 95% of the issue. Irregardless of inflight product, the only way AA is going to attract German pax is by being cheap Otherwise, they are going to fly LH.
flymco753 wrote:Any chance of AA getting into PHL-ZAG?
Ishrion wrote:Quick question - Is anyone else’s page on this thread being weird? Half of it is cut off and you need to scroll sideways. Or is it just me?
Ishrion wrote:Back in the day JAT Yugoslav could make ZAG-US work. I would assume UA takes EWR while AA takes PHL. Wonder where that puts DL. Midwest? How can DL connect Western PA, Northern OH, SE MI, and the Chicago area?flymco753 wrote:Any chance of AA getting into PHL-ZAG?
Would a 788 be too big? I’m sure the XLR could do it.
ZAG has been looking for U.S. service. Last I heard, they were in talks with 2 U.S. airlines in launching service from New York to Zagreb.
flymco753 wrote:Ishrion wrote:Back in the day JAT Yugoslav could make ZAG-US work. I would assume UA takes EWR while AA takes PHL. Wonder where that puts DL. Midwest? How can DL connect Western PA, Northern OH, SE MI, and the Chicago area?flymco753 wrote:Any chance of AA getting into PHL-ZAG?
Would a 788 be too big? I’m sure the XLR could do it.
ZAG has been looking for U.S. service. Last I heard, they were in talks with 2 U.S. airlines in launching service from New York to Zagreb.
PW100 wrote:flflyguy wrote:Ishrion wrote:Quick question - Is anyone else’s page on this thread being weird? Half of it is cut off and you need to scroll sideways. Or is it just me?
Happening to me too.
It is because of the signature by poster Delta777Jet. The forum database software can't break up the long string in the signature.Delta777Jet wrote:American flew ORD - DUS - TXL in 1992 with B-767-200’s !
Delta777Jet, please break up your signature into two or three blocks by adding a space or comma. Thanks!
Polot wrote:Cool, didn't know that was a thing with JAT until now, thanks.flymco753 wrote:Ishrion wrote:Back in the day JAT Yugoslav could make ZAG-US work. I would assume UA takes EWR while AA takes PHL. Wonder where that puts DL. Midwest? How can DL connect Western PA, Northern OH, SE MI, and the Chicago area?
Would a 788 be too big? I’m sure the XLR could do it.
ZAG has been looking for U.S. service. Last I heard, they were in talks with 2 U.S. airlines in launching service from New York to Zagreb.
Don’t use the existence of service by a government owned carrier, especially one like JAT, as evidence that a route worked.
PHXWRLD wrote:PHL is lucky to have the intercontinental service it does. PHX, a similarly sized AA hub sees service to just LHR. We would happily take what you have.
rbavfan wrote:PHXWRLD wrote:PHL is lucky to have the intercontinental service it does. PHX, a similarly sized AA hub sees service to just LHR. We would happily take what you have.
I wonder does PHX have more flights south of our boarder or to Hawaii than PHL? That would be a better comparison than with PHX-TATL. After all PHX-TATL is to far west to compare to PHL.
PHLspecial wrote:.....................
I would challenge your words and say that AA is using it's assets to its strengths. PHL is a great location for European flights we know that. We also know that AA has roughly 70% of the flights out of PHL. We also know that Philadelphia is the poorest major U.S. city of course the O&D numbers will be weak...
NYCVIE wrote:MAH4546 wrote:
How does AA not compete with United out of O’Hare to Europe? It certainly does and has a very impressive, although very seasonal, Chicago-Europe presence.
Milan is a market AA has been serving out of JFK well for a long time and I think it’s been happy keeping it there. Plus PHL’s single biggest feeder for its EU flights is MIA, which is also served year-round on AA metal from Milan. A third daily AA flight in the market is probably overkill.
I think its clear what he meant... UA is flying to 5, soon 6 year round European destinations from ORD and AA is flying to 1.
PHXWRLD wrote:rbavfan wrote:PHXWRLD wrote:PHL is lucky to have the intercontinental service it does. PHX, a similarly sized AA hub sees service to just LHR. We would happily take what you have.
I wonder does PHX have more flights south of our boarder or to Hawaii than PHL? That would be a better comparison than with PHX-TATL. After all PHX-TATL is to far west to compare to PHL.
No the better comparison is PHX TPAC to PHL TATL. PHX has NO TPAC service which is indicative of how neglected and underserved we are.
notconcerned wrote:Actually UA flies to 6, soon to be 7 European destinations from ORD: AMS, BRU, FRA, LHR, MUC, CDG, and soon ZRH.
AA flies to 1 (LHR), its one and only year round intercontinental route from ORD.
