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NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:46 pm

For discussion on all things NYC related (JFK/EWR/LGA/SWF/HPN/ISP)!

What do we hope to see in NYC this year?
 
Nicknuzzii
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:03 pm

EWR is so underserved compared to JFK, I would like to see B6 expand more,
UA cut regional flying, again
More foreign carriers
More F9 adds
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:15 pm

United will start:
EWR-PMO
EWR-NCE
EWR-CUR
EWR-HND
Second daily flight to AMS and FRA
Extending seasonal services to ATH, NAP, and OPO

French Bee and Corsair will start ORY-EWR

NZ will start AKL-EWR

Frontier starts : EWR-LAS/MIA/MCO/SJU

TK restarts EWR from IST

Jet2 starts
EMA/GLA/LBA/MAN/NCL to EWR
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:48 pm

Rossiya747 wrote:
United will start:
EWR-PMO
EWR-NCE
EWR-CUR
EWR-HND
Second daily flight to AMS and FRA
Extending seasonal services to ATH, NAP, and OPO

French Bee and Corsair will start ORY-EWR

NZ will start AKL-EWR

Frontier starts : EWR-LAS/MIA/MCO/SJU

TK restarts EWR from IST

Jet2 starts
EMA/GLA/LBA/MAN/NCL to EWR


Jet2 flew that this year, and well before that too. Are they adding anything?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:45 pm

Totally forgot about Air New Zealand, that's huge for EWR.

Nonstops from EWR to Singapore, Cape Town, Auckland etc.. Remarkable fortunes for EWR with long hauls to points all over the globe.
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:02 am

Personally I'd like to see more route upgauges on DL out of LGA and JFK.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:01 am

EWR has really gained so much over these past few years.

One really big gaping hole in the network though is ICN. Not only is there a reasonably large Korean population in NJ, but Samsung and LG both have regional offices in here as well. Really surprised that not even UA has started this route yet.

Getting back nonstop service to TPE would be nice as well, but less likely.
Airports I have been to:
DFW, EWR, IAH, JFK, LAS, LGA, MCO, MIA, NRT, ORD, PHL, PHX, SEA, SLC, YTZ, YYZ
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:31 am

JAL will be ending NRT-JFK
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:23 am

MaRoFu wrote:
EWR has really gained so much over these past few years.

One really big gaping hole in the network though is ICN. Not only is there a reasonably large Korean population in NJ, but Samsung and LG both have regional offices in here as well. Really surprised that not even UA has started this route yet.

Getting back nonstop service to TPE would be nice as well, but less likely.


I totally agree with ICN!! I can see Asiana eventually splitting their NYC ops between both airports. I believe they run buses taking pax from North Jersey to JFK. I think Korean runs these shuttles also from North Jersey to JFK. I do think we might see TPE coming back at some point!! If things don't improve in HKG & capacity continues to be reduced, then EVA might return to EWR! CX carries quite a few Taiwanese pax from EWR.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:04 pm

jerseyewr777 wrote:
I believe they run buses taking pax from North Jersey to JFK. I think Korean runs these shuttles also from North Jersey to JFK.


KA and OX don’t run any official shuttle service into NJ. That’s CI and BR you’re probably confusing it with.

[quote=“jerseyewr777”]I do think we might see TPE coming back at some point!! If things don't improve in HKG & capacity continues to be reduced, then EVA might return to EWR! CX carries quite a few Taiwanese pax from EWR.[/quote]

From what I’ve heard CI actually loses money on their flights to JFK. But I have a feeling that if they can’t even make JFK work, then EWR is less likely to work for them, especially considering EWR is more expensive to operate into IIRC. Wonder if BR is in the same situation.
Airports I have been to:
DFW, EWR, IAH, JFK, LAS, LGA, MCO, MIA, NRT, ORD, PHL, PHX, SEA, SLC, YTZ, YYZ
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:40 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
EWR is so underserved compared to JFK, I would like to see B6 expand more,
UA cut regional flying, again
More foreign carriers
More F9 adds


B6 expand more at EWR? How?

UA has been cutting regional flying out of EWR and shifting them to IAD and the strategy makes sense. UA isn't interested in maintaining EWR as a connecting hub. It is focused more on O&D traffic there, which is why it has upped the game with more 77W, 78J service and high density Polaris cabins to LHR, ZRH and presumably, GVA eventually.

As for Foreign Carriers flying into EWR, it would stand to reason more of those will be Star Alliance carriers. NZ is starting 3 x weekly AKL-EWR this year and it would be interesting to see whether Asiana shifts from JFK or simply opens EWR. The A350 is the perfect aircraft for ICN-EWR.

The A321XLR order will result in UA adding more TATL out of EWR in the future, something Kirby hinted at.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:10 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
EWR is so underserved compared to JFK, I would like to see B6 expand more,
UA cut regional flying, again
More foreign carriers
More F9 adds


B6 expand more at EWR? How?

UA has been cutting regional flying out of EWR and shifting them to IAD and the strategy makes sense. UA isn't interested in maintaining EWR as a connecting hub. It is focused more on O&D traffic there, which is why it has upped the game with more 77W, 78J service and high density Polaris cabins to LHR, ZRH and presumably, GVA eventually.

As for Foreign Carriers flying into EWR, it would stand to reason more of those will be Star Alliance carriers. NZ is starting 3 x weekly AKL-EWR this year and it would be interesting to see whether Asiana shifts from JFK or simply opens EWR. The A350 is the perfect aircraft for ICN-EWR.

The A321XLR order will result in UA adding more TATL out of EWR in the future, something Kirby hinted at.


Jetblue, Delta, and American total about 15 percent of EWR traffic. JetBlue is the second largest carrier at JFK, so why would they want to expand at EWR when most of their operations are at JFK?
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:17 pm

Rossiya747 wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
EWR is so underserved compared to JFK, I would like to see B6 expand more,
UA cut regional flying, again
More foreign carriers
More F9 adds


B6 expand more at EWR? How?

UA has been cutting regional flying out of EWR and shifting them to IAD and the strategy makes sense. UA isn't interested in maintaining EWR as a connecting hub. It is focused more on O&D traffic there, which is why it has upped the game with more 77W, 78J service and high density Polaris cabins to LHR, ZRH and presumably, GVA eventually.

As for Foreign Carriers flying into EWR, it would stand to reason more of those will be Star Alliance carriers. NZ is starting 3 x weekly AKL-EWR this year and it would be interesting to see whether Asiana shifts from JFK or simply opens EWR. The A350 is the perfect aircraft for ICN-EWR.

The A321XLR order will result in UA adding more TATL out of EWR in the future, something Kirby hinted at.


Jetblue, Delta, and American total about 15 percent of EWR traffic. JetBlue is the second largest carrier at JFK, so why would they want to expand at EWR when most of their operations are at JFK?


B6 is up around 40% from S19 to S20... Furthermore, I’m not sure if you’re aware or not JFK is slot restricted.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:54 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
B6 expand more at EWR? How?

B6 has acquired multiple gates at EWR ever since WN left, so they’re not limited to that one gate at Terminal A anymore. Sure, they still need to secure landing/take off slots but the additional gates are a huge win. Seems like B6 is looking to make EWR into a secondary hub of some sort, which it already kind of is.
Airports I have been to:
DFW, EWR, IAH, JFK, LAS, LGA, MCO, MIA, NRT, ORD, PHL, PHX, SEA, SLC, YTZ, YYZ
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:22 pm

Sun Country will start MSN-EWR
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:44 pm

Anyone have any insights as to how Alaska is doing at EWR/JFK? I know SJC-JFK is getting the boot in a couple of days but I'm interested to know how how they're doing on their other routes, particularly the Cali-NY ones where they have heavy competition from airlines with much better products.

Also has SEA-JFK suffered with Mint on the route?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:58 pm

NYCVIE wrote:
Anyone have any insights as to how Alaska is doing at EWR/JFK? I know SJC-JFK is getting the boot in a couple of days but I'm interested to know how how they're doing on their other routes, particularly the Cali-NY ones where they have heavy competition from airlines with much better products.

Also has SEA-JFK suffered with Mint on the route?

Yes, JFK sea is a tough route for Alaska since mint entered. Ewr transcons are probably a little less competitive and easier than JFK for them. For the JFK transcons, I am sure they will keep those around to hold onto the slots.

Also on the question of b6 and ewr, they are slot constrained at JFK so ewr is the only place they can really expand in NYC. Only problem is lack of good slots. They will continue to add at ewr imo.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:39 pm

tphuang wrote:
NYCVIE wrote:
Anyone have any insights as to how Alaska is doing at EWR/JFK? I know SJC-JFK is getting the boot in a couple of days but I'm interested to know how how they're doing on their other routes, particularly the Cali-NY ones where they have heavy competition from airlines with much better products.

Also has SEA-JFK suffered with Mint on the route?

Yes, JFK sea is a tough route for Alaska since mint entered. Ewr transcons are probably a little less competitive and easier than JFK for them. For the JFK transcons, I am sure they will keep those around to hold onto the slots.

Also on the question of b6 and ewr, they are slot constrained at JFK so ewr is the only place they can really expand in NYC. Only problem is lack of good slots. They will continue to add at ewr imo.



It honestly still baffles me why AS thought it wasn't worth their while to keep a subfleet in an upgraded VX style cabin layout for these transcons. They could have been a formidable competitor to Mint but instead are flying recliners across the country in markets where other carriers are flying lie-flat. Whenever I search for transcon fares AS is always cheapest. Obviously they know what they're doing but I wonder if this was the better route to go.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:53 am

frontier will be resuming ISP-MIA
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:56 am

LGA new routes:
AA-BZN, FCA, PHX
Eagle-RSW, TPA

And that's pretty much it. LGA for spotters is boring unless you like seeing the same things over and over again.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:01 am

JFK new routes and cuts
new:
AA-GCM
B6-GEO, PTP

resume:
LO-KRK
VS-LGW

cuts:
AS-SJC
CX-YVR
JL-NRT
B6-MEX
DY-MAD
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:07 am

EWR new routes and cuts:
new:
NZ-AKL
SS-ORY
BF-ORY
F9-CUN, ORD, DFW, DEN, ONT, RDU, STI, SDQ, TPA
NK-AUS, BNA
SY-MSN
UA-HND, NCE, PMO

resume:
TK-IST

cuts:
NK-SDQ
UA-PSP
UA express-CAK, DAY, YOW

more growth at EWR than JFK
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:09 am

rest of NY area airports:
ISP
F9 resumes MIA

no changes at HPN or SWF
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:13 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
JFK new routes and cuts
new:
AA-GCM
B6-GEO, PTP

resume:
LO-KRK
VS-LGW

cuts:
AS-SJC
CX-YVR
JL-NRT
B6-MEX
DY-MAD
Rossiya747 wrote:
EWR new routes and cuts:
new:
NZ-AKL
SS-ORY
BF-ORY
F9-CUN, ORD, DFW, DEN, ONT, RDU, STI, SDQ, TPA
NK-AUS, BNA
SY-MSN
UA-HND, NCE, PMO

resume:
TK-IST

cuts:
NK-SDQ
UA-PSP
UA express-CAK, DAY, YOW

more growth at EWR than JFK
Rossiya747 wrote:
LGA new routes:
AA-BZN, FCA, PHX
Eagle-RSW, TPA

And that's pretty much it. LGA for spotters is boring unless you like seeing the same things over and over again.


Thanks for these! Hope the growth doesn’t stop anytime soon. Also not sure if this counts towards yours but TP is going 2x daily to LIS from EWR next summer. That means TP who was recently at 9x a week from EWR will now be 21x.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:27 am

OZ most definitely at least coordinates with a Korean owned bus company for shuttles timed to their JFK departures. I've put relatives on it many times in Ft. Lee, most recently about a year ago. You need an OZ ticket to board.

KE apparently has something similar. We called to see if a relative not traveling on KE (or OZ) could use their bus and were told that he couldn't. So, on Friday, we have to drive to JFK, alas.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:00 am

Socrates17 wrote:
OZ most definitely at least coordinates with a Korean owned bus company for shuttles timed to their JFK departures. I've put relatives on it many times in Ft. Lee, most recently about a year ago. You need an OZ ticket to board.

KE apparently has something similar. We called to see if a relative not traveling on KE (or OZ) could use their bus and were told that he couldn't. So, on Friday, we have to drive to JFK, alas.


BR runs a free bus shuttle as well
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:35 am

How advanced is the LGA rebuilding? Will one of those tarmac overpasses be completed in 2020?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
LGA new routes:
AA-BZN, FCA, PHX
Eagle-RSW, TPA

And that's pretty much it. LGA for spotters is boring unless you like seeing the same things over and over again.


I didn’t think PHX was possible from LGA?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:42 am

NYCDM wrote:
I didn’t think PHX was possible from LGA?


Isn’t there an exception on weekends with some longer flights allowed?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Curiousflyer wrote:
NYCDM wrote:
I didn’t think PHX was possible from LGA?


Isn’t there an exception on weekends with some longer flights allowed?



On Saturdays, yes.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:19 pm

Curiousflyer wrote:
How advanced is the LGA rebuilding? Will one of those tarmac overpasses be completed in 2020?


Yes the overpass that connects to concourse B will open when the new headhouse.is completed in July or Aug.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:16 pm

Anyone think UA might look in the future to start EWR-West Africa? The last time they flew to ACC and I think LOS it was from IAD in the early 2010s. The market definitely has competition with DL on both JFK-ACC and LOS and ET offering connections through LFW from EWR, but its a super high fares market that UA could potentially make work, especially with connections through EWR.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:39 pm

NYCVIE wrote:
Anyone think UA might look in the future to start EWR-West Africa? The last time they flew to ACC and I think LOS it was from IAD in the early 2010s. The market definitely has competition with DL on both JFK-ACC and LOS and ET offering connections through LFW from EWR, but its a super high fares market that UA could potentially make work, especially with connections through EWR.


ET already services West Africa from EWR and JFK. I don't think UA needs a flight to W. Africa, unless it is from IAH-LOS, which has an oil market.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:25 pm

twaconnie wrote:
Curiousflyer wrote:
How advanced is the LGA rebuilding? Will one of those tarmac overpasses be completed in 2020?


Yes the overpass that connects to concourse B will open when the new headhouse.is completed in July or Aug.


Seems the first part of the western concourse could open then too. The outside has most of the glass finished.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:48 pm

Terminal 1 of EWR should be fully operating in 2022.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:05 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
Terminal 1 of EWR should be fully operating in 2022.


Yes, do you know which portion will open next year? I’m confused on which part the 21 gates will come from.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:10 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Rossiya747 wrote:
Terminal 1 of EWR should be fully operating in 2022.


Yes, do you know which portion will open next year? I’m confused on which part the 21 gates will come from.


Its a new building and 33 gates will be opened in two stages
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:10 am

The national guard has been sent to airports in response to the airstrike on an Iranian dude
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:32 am

Singapore will be starting NRT-JFK, has received approval.
Biman has plans to restart Dhaka to Nyc. https://simpleflying.com/biman-bangladesh-new-york/
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:54 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
Singapore will be starting NRT-JFK, has received approval.
Biman has plans to restart Dhaka to Nyc. https://simpleflying.com/biman-bangladesh-new-york/


Where does it say JfK in that article?
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:21 am

STT757 wrote:
Totally forgot about Air New Zealand, that's huge for EWR.

Nonstops from EWR to Singapore, Cape Town, Auckland etc.. Remarkable fortunes for EWR with long hauls to points all over the globe.


If New Zealand and Australia are counted as one, this would make EWR part of the six continents club. I'll admit, I thought that NZ was going to need to observe Project Sunrise (the route will be the longest RR-powered B789 route in the world) before announcing Newark.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:49 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
STT757 wrote:
Totally forgot about Air New Zealand, that's huge for EWR.

Nonstops from EWR to Singapore, Cape Town, Auckland etc.. Remarkable fortunes for EWR with long hauls to points all over the globe.


If New Zealand and Australia are counted as one, this would make EWR part of the six continents club. I'll admit, I thought that NZ was going to need to observe Project Sunrise (the route will be the longest RR-powered B789 route in the world) before announcing Newark.


Not necessarily. NZ is geographically closer to the US than Australia. JFK-SYD is 9,953.59 miles in distance. EWR to AKL is 8,810 miles. The official range of the 787-9 is 9,196 miles.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:01 am

Cointrin330 wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
STT757 wrote:
Totally forgot about Air New Zealand, that's huge for EWR.

Nonstops from EWR to Singapore, Cape Town, Auckland etc.. Remarkable fortunes for EWR with long hauls to points all over the globe.


If New Zealand and Australia are counted as one, this would make EWR part of the six continents club. I'll admit, I thought that NZ was going to need to observe Project Sunrise (the route will be the longest RR-powered B789 route in the world) before announcing Newark.


Not necessarily. NZ is geographically closer to the US than Australia. JFK-SYD is 9,953.59 miles in distance. EWR to AKL is 8,810 miles. The official range of the 787-9 is 9,196 miles.


Ambiguous wording. The US is not closer to NZ than Australia.
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Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:47 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:

If New Zealand and Australia are counted as one, this would make EWR part of the six continents club. I'll admit, I thought that NZ was going to need to observe Project Sunrise (the route will be the longest RR-powered B789 route in the world) before announcing Newark.


Not necessarily. NZ is geographically closer to the US than Australia. JFK-SYD is 9,953.59 miles in distance. EWR to AKL is 8,810 miles. The official range of the 787-9 is 9,196 miles.


Ambiguous wording. The US is not closer to NZ than Australia.


True, yes. To clarify, the mainland US is closer to New Zealand than it is to Australia.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:56 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Rossiya747 wrote:
Singapore will be starting NRT-JFK, has received approval.
Biman has plans to restart Dhaka to Nyc. https://simpleflying.com/biman-bangladesh-new-york/


Where does it say JfK in that article?


It says New York. I never wrote JFK regarding Biman. Read it closer next time.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:23 am

Rossiya747 wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
Rossiya747 wrote:
Singapore will be starting NRT-JFK, has received approval.
Biman has plans to restart Dhaka to Nyc. https://simpleflying.com/biman-bangladesh-new-york/


Where does it say JfK in that article?


It says New York. I never wrote JFK regarding Biman. Read it closer next time.


I’m talking about SQ.
 
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:24 am

United should expand their service in Newark, especially their regional service and more flights to Europe.
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:12 am

Interesting article. US and Kazakhstan have signed an Open Skies treaty.
Here: https://simpleflying.com/kazakhstan-us-open-skies/

The only carrier that I think wants to serve this market is Air Astana but I hope United can kill two birds with one stone if they do a new EWR RIX/PMI/KBP/SVO/DME/PMI/LED to ALA/TSE with their new A321XLRs or American with a non-daily A330 from PHL to ALA.
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:49 pm

Sorry 2 days late, but there was a runway incursion at JFK.
Here's the thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1438815
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Re: NYC Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:08 pm

Rossiya747 wrote:
Interesting article. US and Kazakhstan have signed an Open Skies treaty.
Here: https://simpleflying.com/kazakhstan-us-open-skies/

The only carrier that I think wants to serve this market is Air Astana but I hope United can kill two birds with one stone if they do a new EWR RIX/PMI/KBP/SVO/DME/PMI/LED to ALA/TSE with their new A321XLRs or American with a non-daily A330 from PHL to ALA.


UA doesn't do those one stop, continuing flights anymore and I would be surprised if any of these except potentially EWR-SVO/DME and MAYBE PMI seasonally but even that has a fat chance I think.

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