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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:14 pm

jplatts wrote:
While WN had seasonal nonstop service to PDX from HOU prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, the lack of year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service on WN is one of the biggest remaining holes in both the HOU and PDX markets, especially with UA not having any nonstop competition on its IAH-PDX route.

WN can probably make year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service work due to
(a) WN having a FF base in both HOU and PDX to support year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service,
(b) additional connecting opportunities available at HOU with the recently announced HOU-MIA add and return of HOU-RSW/GSP nonstop service, and
(c) some passengers connecting to MSY and Florida from PDX in addition to O&D traffic to support year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service.


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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:04 pm

Victoria, Texas EAS contract is being switched from Boutique Air to SkyWest. Boutique previously served Victoria from DFW and IAH.

I found a trip report from someone who flew the route with Boutique back in August:

https://youtu.be/iyHmu0W0LZ0

Glad there is someone out there who does trip reports with small airlines and airports like this.
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:32 pm

jplatts wrote:
WN had announced some adds out of HOU yesterday, including the addition of HOU-CVG/CLE/DTW/MIA/MSP/RNO/ICT nonstop service, the extension of HOU-SLC nonstop service to year-round, and the return of HOU-RSW/GSP/TUS nonstop service.

Here is the breakdown of the HOU adds announced yesterday (source: https://wieck-swa-production.s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/page-3b00a21770a21c5c30a52599d18aed48/attachment/e128c2dda32957201362eeafb576fd1e676a5a45):
  • HOU-BOS - 1x on select Saturdays (Nov. - Dec.) (resumption)
  • HOU-CLE - 1x Holidays (Nov. - Dec) (new route)
  • HOU-CVG - 1x daily starting in November 2020 (new route)
  • HOU-DTW - 1x Holidays (Nov. - Dec.), daily starting in March 2021 (new route)
  • HOU-RSW - 1x daily resuming in November 2020 through March 2021 (resumption)
  • HOU-GSP - 1x daily resuming in November 2020 (resumption)
  • HOU-ICT - 1x Holidays (Nov. - Dec.) (new route)
  • HOU-MIA - 4x daily starting in November 2020 (new route)
  • HOU-MSP - 1x daily starting in March 2021 (new route)
  • HOU-RNO - 1x Holidays (Nov. - Dec.) (new route)
  • HOU-TUS - 1x daily starting in November 2020 (resumption)

WN had also previously announced HOU-ONT nonstop service in its May 28th schedule extension, and WN had also already re-added HOU-SNA nonstop service in its May 28th schedule extension.


Are they going to fly to Telluride also?
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:49 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
Are they going to fly to Telluride also?


WN had announced nonstop service to MJT from DEN and DAL but not from HOU. However, WN will be offering connections from HOU onto its MJT-DEN/DAL nonstop flights.
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:20 am

jplatts wrote:
While WN had seasonal nonstop service to PDX from HOU prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, the lack of year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service on WN is one of the biggest remaining holes in both the HOU and PDX markets, especially with UA not having any nonstop competition on its IAH-PDX route.

WN can probably make year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service work due to
(a) WN having a FF base in both HOU and PDX to support year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service,
(b) additional connecting opportunities available at HOU with the recently announced HOU-MIA add and return of HOU-RSW/GSP nonstop service, and
(c) some passengers connecting to MSY and Florida from PDX in addition to O&D traffic to support year-round HOU-PDX nonstop service.


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PS- I enjoyed your post about WN in the DAL/DFW market post 2024. I was actually thinking about that recently and was pleasantly surprised to see you begin a topic about that. Be safe and be well! :)
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:41 pm

Southwest just announced a return to IAH next year.
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:44 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
Southwest just announced a return to IAH next year.


A return to IAH? When did they serve IAH previously?
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:47 pm

Western727 wrote:
FlyingSicilian wrote:
Southwest just announced a return to IAH next year.


A return to IAH? When did they serve IAH previously?

They served IAH from DAL for several years; using term A at IAH IIRC. The only flights were to DAL.
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:04 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
Southwest just announced a return to IAH next year.

You beat me to this! I wonder if UA will respond by launching HOU.
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:09 pm

Western727 wrote:
FlyingSicilian wrote:
Southwest just announced a return to IAH next year.


A return to IAH? When did they serve IAH previously?


They left in 2004 I believe. They served IAH for quite a while, albeit with a small presence. At the end their only destination was DAL. I'm sure this time will be a little bit different.
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:36 pm

Any speculation on what gate(s) Southwest will use at IAH?
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:58 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
They served IAH from DAL for several years; using term A at IAH IIRC. The only flights were to DAL.


WN732 wrote:
They served IAH for quite a while, albeit with a small presence. At the end their only destination was DAL. I'm sure this time will be a little bit different.


WN discontinued service out of IAH back on April 2, 2005.

I would probably expect WN to add nonstop service to a few destinations outside of Texas such as ATL, BWI, MDW, DEN, PHX, and STL out of IAH.
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:13 pm

So...the BIG question @ IAH is: Which gate(s) will WN get to use? Most likely in Terminal A.

IAH has 5 Terminals. A, B, C, D, E. Terminal B is UA Express. Terminal C is UA and UA Express. Terminal D is International arrivals/departures. Terminal E is UA and UA / Star Alliance partners for Int'l.

Let's look at Terminal A.
Terminal A has gates A1, A2, A3 (a-h), A7, A8, A9, A10, A11, A12, A14, A15. These gates are on the north side of the terminal.
On the south side you have A17, A18, A19, A20, A24, A25, A26, A27, A28, A29 and A30.

Terminal A is occupied by United Express (UA), Delta/Delta Connection (DL), American/American Eagle (AA), Boutique Air, Air Canada (AC), Spirit (NK), Alaska (AS), Frontier (F9), JetBlue (B6) and WestJet (WS).

Terminal A north
Gates A1, A2 UA
Gates A3 (a-h) UA and Boutique Air
Gates A7, A8 UA
Gate A9 AC
Gates A10, A12, A14, A15 DL
Gate A11 AS

Terminal A south
Gates A17, A18, A19 NK
Gate A20 WS ?
Gate A24 B6
Gates A25, A26, A27, A28, A29, A30 AA

Source: http://www.fly2houston.com

So...Which gate(s) will WN use @ IAH. If guessing: A7, A8, or A20. That's not going to give them many flights from/to IAH utilizing 7-9 flights per gate.

Any thoughts?
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:25 pm

I was at IAH on Saturday, 11/14. As we taxied past D, there was an El Al ( LY) 787 parked on the ramp. Does anyone know what that was doing in Houston this weekend? I think it is the first time I've ever seen LY at IAH.
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:50 pm

IAHWorldflyer wrote:
I was at IAH on Saturday, 11/14. As we taxied past D, there was an El Al ( LY) 787 parked on the ramp. Does anyone know what that was doing in Houston this weekend? I think it is the first time I've ever seen LY at IAH.

It was there for a Repatriation flight.
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:57 pm

lx2iah wrote:
So...the BIG question @ IAH is: Which gate(s) will WN get to use? Most likely in Terminal A.

IAH has 5 Terminals. A, B, C, D, E. Terminal B is UA Express. Terminal C is UA and UA Express. Terminal D is International arrivals/departures. Terminal E is UA and UA / Star Alliance partners for Int'l.

Let's look at Terminal A.
Terminal A has gates A1, A2, A3 (a-h), A7, A8, A9, A10, A11, A12, A14, A15. These gates are on the north side of the terminal.
On the south side you have A17, A18, A19, A20, A24, A25, A26, A27, A28, A29 and A30.

Terminal A is occupied by United Express (UA), Delta/Delta Connection (DL), American/American Eagle (AA), Boutique Air, Air Canada (AC), Spirit (NK), Alaska (AS), Frontier (F9), JetBlue (B6) and WestJet (WS).

Terminal A north
Gates A1, A2 UA
Gates A3 (a-h) UA and Boutique Air
Gates A7, A8 UA
Gate A9 AC
Gates A10, A12, A14, A15 DL
Gate A11 AS

Terminal A south
Gates A17, A18, A19 NK
Gate A20 WS ?
Gate A24 B6
Gates A25, A26, A27, A28, A29, A30 AA

Source: http://www.fly2houston.com

So...Which gate(s) will WN use @ IAH. If guessing: A7, A8, or A20. That's not going to give them many flights from/to IAH utilizing 7-9 flights per gate.

Any thoughts?


They would use the gates that aren't occupied by Spirit, AA, or DL as they're the major tenants. The rest of the gates are shared, just like terminal D.
 
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Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:34 pm

lx2iah wrote:
So...the BIG question @ IAH is: Which gate(s) will WN get to use? Most likely in Terminal A.

IAH has 5 Terminals. A, B, C, D, E. Terminal B is UA Express. Terminal C is UA and UA Express. Terminal D is International arrivals/departures. Terminal E is UA and UA / Star Alliance partners for Int'l.

Let's look at Terminal A.
Terminal A has gates A1, A2, A3 (a-h), A7, A8, A9, A10, A11, A12, A14, A15. These gates are on the north side of the terminal.
On the south side you have A17, A18, A19, A20, A24, A25, A26, A27, A28, A29 and A30.

Terminal A is occupied by United Express (UA), Delta/Delta Connection (DL), American/American Eagle (AA), Boutique Air, Air Canada (AC), Spirit (NK), Alaska (AS), Frontier (F9), JetBlue (B6) and WestJet (WS).

Terminal A north
Gates A1, A2 UA
Gates A3 (a-h) UA and Boutique Air
Gates A7, A8 UA
Gate A9 AC
Gates A10, A12, A14, A15 DL
Gate A11 AS

Terminal A south
Gates A17, A18, A19 NK
Gate A20 WS ?
Gate A24 B6
Gates A25, A26, A27, A28, A29, A30 AA

Source: http://www.fly2houston.com

So...Which gate(s) will WN use @ IAH. If guessing: A7, A8, or A20. That's not going to give them many flights from/to IAH utilizing 7-9 flights per gate.

Any thoughts?


Southwest will be using the Gate A3 facilities and they will have three aircraft parking/boarding positions (and yes, passengers will exit the terminal on the tarmac and have to go up air stairs to the planes). This is all "temporary" while the airport proceeds with the renewal and expansion plans for Terminal A.

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