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Delta Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:42 am

Delta Network Thread 2020, please post below.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:01 am

Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:06 am

Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I think either SLC-ICN or LAX-ICN are bound to happen sometime soon.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:12 am

PHXWRLD wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I think either SLC-ICN or LAX-ICN are bound to happen sometime soon.


Didn’t Korean Air just increase LAX to 2 daily?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:55 am

Link to previous thread:

viewtopic.php?t=1411881
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:26 am

PHXWRLD wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I think either SLC-ICN or LAX-ICN are bound to happen sometime soon.


I doubt that DL wants to go up against multiple A380 flights on the LAX route. Plus Koreans are very loyal to KE and OZ. They seem happy to let KE fly that route as part of the JV. The SLC has been rumored for a long time and once the new terminal opens up I think the route will start.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:08 pm

I'd like to see some A220 flying come north. It'd also be nice to see some strategic adds ex-MSN and ex-MKE.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:44 pm

Farther north than MSP or SEA?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:50 pm

The A220's flying has expanded a lot in DEC,at one point up to 20/21 aircraft were in the air at the same time along with plenty flights into KAUS & KCMH on top
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:08 pm

Has anything been announced about MSP-PVG?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:45 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
The A220's flying has expanded a lot in DEC,at one point up to 20/21 aircraft were in the air at the same time along with plenty flights into KAUS & KCMH on top


In AUS the 220 downgauged 320 flights. In years before this was done with the CR9. For now AUS’ growth has been in the form of mainline 320-only flying and has become one of the largest outstations for the type. RDU and CVG being the exception with CR9 service.

As the 220 grows and continues to upgauge CR9 flying (like DFW-JFK) I hope it means new AUS routes or frequency increases. I could see RDU going 2xCR9 or maybe CMH or IND starting.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:13 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
Farther north than MSP or SEA?


Upper Midwest in general.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:20 pm

Should be interesting to see how -300 plays into things...LGA-SLC,BOS-SEA,AUS,DFW,IAH

24Whiskey wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
The A220's flying has expanded a lot in DEC,at one point up to 20/21 aircraft were in the air at the same time along with plenty flights into KAUS & KCMH on top


In AUS the 220 downgauged 320 flights. In years before this was done with the CR9. For now AUS’ growth has been in the form of mainline 320-only flying and has become one of the largest outstations for the type. RDU and CVG being the exception with CR9 service.

As the 220 grows and continues to upgauge CR9 flying (like DFW-JFK) I hope it means new AUS routes or frequency increases. I could see RDU going 2xCR9 or maybe CMH or IND starting.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:32 pm

Ishrion wrote:
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)

Is this year round or just seasonal?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:40 pm

DTWLAX wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)

Is this year round or just seasonal?


Pretty sure it’s seasonal, but it looks like routesonline is completely down...

Check the bookings.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:43 pm

Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, Hughes Airwest, NW, etc.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:49 pm

It's not apart of their corporate image.....one uniform fleet-don't think they have SKYTEAM liveries anymore

cynlb wrote:
Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, Hughes Airwest, NW, etc.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:50 pm

cynlb wrote:
Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, NW, etc.


Personally I would love some retro livery jets for the Delta museum. Inside of each a good museum homage to that particular airline's history would be outstanding and a stellar tribute!!!!!
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:33 pm

cynlb wrote:
Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, Hughes Airwest, NW, etc.


DELTA's leadership team has said many times that they have no plans to introduce retro liveries. They are very focused on brand consistency. Retro liveries actually work against that goal.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:45 pm

NWAESC wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Farther north than MSP or SEA?


Upper Midwest in general.


I don't think one can expect too much of that with SLC and NYC bases. If there are substantiated plans for a DTW or MSP base that would change chances for the better - significantly.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:47 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
It's not apart of their corporate image.....one uniform fleet-don't think they have SKYTEAM liveries anymore

cynlb wrote:
Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, Hughes Airwest, NW, etc.


Incorrect. I have seen the SkyTeam livery many times this past year mostly in ATL on a 738 or 739.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:37 pm

WHAT about BOS-ICN?

PHXWRLD wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I think either SLC-ICN or LAX-ICN are bound to happen sometime soon.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:14 pm

Delta28L wrote:
PHXWRLD wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I think either SLC-ICN or LAX-ICN are bound to happen sometime soon.


I doubt that DL wants to go up against multiple A380 flights on the LAX route. Plus Koreans are very loyal to KE and OZ. They seem happy to let KE fly that route as part of the JV. The SLC has been rumored for a long time and once the new terminal opens up I think the route will start.


Um no. It wouldn't be against KE since it's a JV. No different than ATL. KE's A380 daylight and DL's A350 midnight flight. It would also be like how JFK-CDG 767 fights worked complimentary to AF A380.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:22 pm

Hope springs eternal for CMH-AMS/CDG. CRAA still wants TATL and they've been confirmed as having talked to DL. The pairing makes sense given DL's presence and recent growth at CMH (with SLC back, they serve all hubs, plus some P2P, and have retrenched back to their original 1995 gates on C) and the possibility for a SkyClub on Concourse C.

24Whiskey wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
The A220's flying has expanded a lot in DEC,at one point up to 20/21 aircraft were in the air at the same time along with plenty flights into KAUS & KCMH on top


In AUS the 220 downgauged 320 flights. In years before this was done with the CR9. For now AUS’ growth has been in the form of mainline 320-only flying and has become one of the largest outstations for the type. RDU and CVG being the exception with CR9 service.

As the 220 grows and continues to upgauge CR9 flying (like DFW-JFK) I hope it means new AUS routes or frequency increases. I could see RDU going 2xCR9 or maybe CMH or IND starting.


CMH-SLC on the 220 was also a downgauge from the 319. I could also see CMH and AUS being linked if AUS is grown- F9 and G4 couldn't make it work, but DL with connections might.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:25 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
NWAESC wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Farther north than MSP or SEA?


Upper Midwest in general.


I don't think one can expect too much of that with SLC and NYC bases. If there are substantiated plans for a DTW or MSP base that would change chances for the better - significantly.


Except the routes from the coasts to the midwest were very much highlighted as part of the original plan for the A220 to fly the longer thin routes from both coasts to the central part of the country and replace the large RJs so they can be used to replace the 50 seat jets.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:51 pm

If JFK_ BOM does well would like to see them consider Bangalore and/or Hyderabad in the coming year with additional A350's they could build India gradually.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:58 pm

I figure we'd see JFK-DEL on 777LR before any other India cities

With DL taking over LATAM's A350 order along with purchasing their current fleet, I'm kind of excited to see where they would deploy these net-new aircraft in the coming years.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:08 pm

They can use another route to Africa - CapeTown/Casablanca,possibly return to Cairo....definitely another India DELHI....might be tough competition but Istanbul
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:39 pm

Also Delta should be receiving the A321neo this year...any rumors or predictions as to first bases/routes? I heard something about them replacing the 752s on LAX/SEA-HI first, but nothing certain yet.
DeltaRules wrote:
Hope springs eternal for CMH-AMS/CDG. CRAA still wants TATL and they've been confirmed as having talked to DL. The pairing makes sense given DL's presence and recent growth at CMH (with SLC back, they serve all hubs, plus some P2P, and have retrenched back to their original 1995 gates on C) and the possibility for a SkyClub on Concourse C.

24Whiskey wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
The A220's flying has expanded a lot in DEC,at one point up to 20/21 aircraft were in the air at the same time along with plenty flights into KAUS & KCMH on top


In AUS the 220 downgauged 320 flights. In years before this was done with the CR9. For now AUS’ growth has been in the form of mainline 320-only flying and has become one of the largest outstations for the type. RDU and CVG being the exception with CR9 service.

As the 220 grows and continues to upgauge CR9 flying (like DFW-JFK) I hope it means new AUS routes or frequency increases. I could see RDU going 2xCR9 or maybe CMH or IND starting.


CMH-SLC on the 220 was also a downgauge from the 319. I could also see CMH and AUS being linked if AUS is grown- F9 and G4 couldn't make it work, but DL with connections might.

Don't forget CMH-SEA; DL doesn't serve that one, although given that AS is going 2x daily on the route next summer it would be a challenge to squeeze in. They do still have a chance with SEA-CLE however, as only F9 serves the route sub-daily during the summer and the route did well in the CO hub days (even receiving 753 service one summer).
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:27 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


BOS-FCO and I think an additional BOS-CDG
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:47 am

evank516 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
NWAESC wrote:

Upper Midwest in general.


I don't think one can expect too much of that with SLC and NYC bases. If there are substantiated plans for a DTW or MSP base that would change chances for the better - significantly.


Except the routes from the coasts to the midwest were very much highlighted as part of the original plan for the A220 to fly the longer thin routes from both coasts to the central part of the country and replace the large RJs so they can be used to replace the 50 seat jets.

Could an order for additional A220-100s in the late 2020s or early 2030s be placed to replace the 717s, if Delta is looking for an aircraft with a very similar capacity to the 717s as their replacement?
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:56 am

evank516 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
NWAESC wrote:

Upper Midwest in general.


I don't think one can expect too much of that with SLC and NYC bases. If there are substantiated plans for a DTW or MSP base that would change chances for the better - significantly.


Except the routes from the coasts to the midwest were very much highlighted as part of the original plan for the A220 to fly the longer thin routes from both coasts to the central part of the country and replace the large RJs so they can be used to replace the 50 seat jets.


If that were the original plan they wouldn't have agreed to a low average stage length. Post number 6 and beyond. viewtopic.php?t=1386429
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:10 am

I’ll be curious to see if anything new is added to SLC once the new terminal opens. There are a lot of smaller western markets that were dropped like BFL, DGO and MRY that I would love to see resumed.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:27 am

Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I’d hope / expect BOS-MAN to become a year round route after this summer season. Perhaps not daily in the darkest of the winter months, but I’m light of the implementation of Virgin Connect over the coming months at MAN it seems a logical “next step”.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:34 am

DobboDobbo wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I’d hope / expect BOS-MAN to become a year round route after this summer season. Perhaps not daily in the darkest of the winter months, but I’m light of the implementation of Virgin Connect over the coming months at MAN it seems a logical “next step”.


I’d expect them to first extend the season to the new year and start it in March before they run a full year round schedule.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:53 am

PHXWRLD wrote:
DobboDobbo wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Delta 2020 Confirmed International Additions/Changes:

- BOS-MAN
- BOS-LGW
- ICN-MNL
- LAX-AMS (Resumption)
- DTW-PEK switches to PKX
- SEA-PEK switches to PKX
- NRT-ATL/DTW/PDX/HNL/SEA relocated to HND

What could we see in 2020?
- More growth from AUS/BOS to compete against AA's recent growth.
- More flying into JV hubs. More flying from the new focus cities? AUS/CVG/RDU/SJC/BNA?
- SLC-ICN?
- More Latin/South American routes with the LATAM partnership?


I’d hope / expect BOS-MAN to become a year round route after this summer season. Perhaps not daily in the darkest of the winter months, but I’m light of the implementation of Virgin Connect over the coming months at MAN it seems a logical “next step”.


I’d expect them to first extend the season to the new year and start it in March before they run a full year round schedule.


A fair and reasonable point which I suspect is probably closer to what they will try and do...
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 pm

With so many Christians visiting Israel. Atlanta to Tel Aviv should come back as a seasonal route.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:44 pm

bfitzflyer wrote:
If JFK_ BOM does well would like to see them consider Bangalore and/or Hyderabad in the coming year with additional A350's they could build India gradually.

I think JFK-BOM is 5x after the winter. If it does well, they should probably make it daily first before opening another route. Personally I don't see HYD coming before DEL.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:59 pm

VTORD wrote:
bfitzflyer wrote:
If JFK_ BOM does well would like to see them consider Bangalore and/or Hyderabad in the coming year with additional A350's they could build India gradually.

I think JFK-BOM is 5x after the winter. If it does well, they should probably make it daily first before opening another route. Personally I don't see HYD coming before DEL.


HYD would probably get FRA as well as CDG and/or AMS before NYC.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:10 pm

PHXWRLD wrote:
VTORD wrote:
bfitzflyer wrote:
If JFK_ BOM does well would like to see them consider Bangalore and/or Hyderabad in the coming year with additional A350's they could build India gradually.

I think JFK-BOM is 5x after the winter. If it does well, they should probably make it daily first before opening another route. Personally I don't see HYD coming before DEL.


HYD would probably get FRA as well as CDG and/or AMS before NYC.


My reasoning behind HYD and BLR is that DEL is already served from a few US gateways and HYD and BLR are big business destinations in their own rights and not served nonstop from the US. All hypothetical, but DL first has to make BOM work before anything else in India is going to happen.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:45 pm

Is 2020 the year that DL finally gets into Poland? I'd assume JFK would be highest priority followed by DTW due to ethnic population size and geographical location.

Plus, we already see the direction DL is heading in with many of the Saturday leisure flights. Majority of Saturday flights from MCO were cut and several from DTW wont make returns this year.
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Re: Delta Network Thread 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:03 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
Should be interesting to see how -300 plays into things...LGA-SLC

LGA-SLC is outside the perimeter, unless DL only flies the route on Saturday (which they won’t do).

cynlb wrote:
Does Delta have any retro livery plans? Personally I'd love to see the Western livery again, along with Republic, Hughes Airwest, NW, etc.

DL doesn’t own the rights to the Western name/logo. Same with Republic and probably Hughes Airwest.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:20 pm

MastaHanky wrote:
I’ll be curious to see if anything new is added to SLC once the new terminal opens. There are a lot of smaller western markets that were dropped like BFL, DGO and MRY that I would love to see resumed.


I agree that opportunities remain for DELTA to continue expanding at SLC into additional markets in the Western U.S., but I'm guessing that BFL, DGO and MRY were each dropped after relatively short runs because they were not profitable. If that is the case, it is hard to imagine why DELTA would want to resume non-core, strategically non-essential routes which could not generate an adequate ROI. Have there been any material changes in these markets which might make DELTA reconsider?
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:22 pm

Atlwarrior wrote:
With so many Christians visiting Israel. Atlanta to Tel Aviv should come back as a seasonal route.


Agreed. It is still a mystery to me why DELTA could not make this flight work from ATL when previously attempted.

flymco753 wrote:
Is 2020 the year that DL finally gets into Poland? I'd assume JFK would be highest priority followed by DTW due to ethnic population size and geographical location.


Good grief yes, I hope DELTA brings back at least seasonal service to WAW, but also to OTP and BUD.
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:43 pm

DL747400 wrote:
Atlwarrior wrote:
With so many Christians visiting Israel. Atlanta to Tel Aviv should come back as a seasonal route.


Agreed. It is still a mystery to me why DELTA could not make this flight work from ATL when previously attempted.


Israel's tourism statistics give country of origin (about 900K from the U.S. in 2018). It would be interesting to see originating airport. I'm guessing many start from a city with non-stop TLV service (NYC/BOS/WAS/MIA/LAX/SFO), or elsewhere such that ATL is not the geographically logical connection.
 
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:54 pm

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I think JFK-BOM is 5x after the winter. If it does well, they should probably make it daily first before opening another route. Personally I don't see HYD coming before DEL.


JFK-BOM has been increased to daily year round. It was showing 5x weekly off-season initially.

flymco753 wrote:
Is 2020 the year that DL finally gets into Poland?


Not going to happen in 2020..new service to Europe only starts in the spring/summer (and is usually announced in the fall of the year before). It's already too late to do that for summer 2020.

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With so many Christians visiting Israel. Atlanta to Tel Aviv should come back as a seasonal route.


Don't forget, the second JFK-TLV is going year-round in 2020..I think it will be a while before they add a third flight to TLV..
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:05 pm

Looks like Delta already cancelled DTW-Honolulu. Not loaded for this summer. I had a feeling it wouldn't last long.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:09 pm

Considering the lead time for route announcements, all the new international flying to start operating in Summer 2020 has already been announced. There could still be a few Summer 2020 domestic new routes, as some have already been announced but there still could be a few new ones coming out in the next month or two.

DL has indicated most of their growth for 2020 is focused on their core domestic hubs (ATL, DTW, MSP, SLC) and a lot of that is coming through upgauging and increased frequency / capacity during peak.

New international flying likely won't be announced before summer / fall timeframe for a 2021 start.
 
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:11 pm

DL747400 wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
Is 2020 the year that DL finally gets into Poland? I'd assume JFK would be highest priority followed by DTW due to ethnic population size and geographical location.


Good grief yes, I hope DELTA brings back at least seasonal service to WAW, but also to OTP and BUD.
All 3 would be fair candidates to be announced this year. I think it's difficult for DL to get into Eastern Europe with such an established JV presence in both AMS & CDG.
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Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:27 pm

This seems exactly like the type of stuff DL would use their 763s with the Low-J configuration on if they are keeping them around for several more years.
For 2019 & 2020, you could argue that DL was a bit short on international widebody aircraft that they didn't really have the aircraft to fund these more leisure-oriented routes into secondary Europe like they did a decade ago. The additional A339 & A350 deliveries lend some additional frames to help fund stuff like the ones mentioned.

If the US economy remains hot and travel continues to be at record levels, these routes could make sense seasonally.
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