marcelh wrote:LAX772LR wrote:speedbird52 wrote:How attractive would a lower MTOW A330-800 be to airlines?
Not very at all, for the purpose of the market segment we're speaking of.
Reduced TOW A330s with no center tank have been available since the mid '90s.... not exactly a new concept. If they wanted that, they could've gotten it a long time ago.
They could, but it wasn't needed. With already a big fleet of A330-900s, a "regional" A330-800 might be "the next best" solution as a replecement for some routes currently flown with the 767-300ER.
I'm not totally sure if it's true, but I heard rumors the A338 will cost about about the same to operate as an A339. So, if you don't need the range of the A338, you might as well use the A339 as the additional seats are 'free of charge'.
Another possibility could be used 787-8s. Not because it's DL, but I think it could be a smart opportunity to grab the 787-8s QR will retire from 2024 onwards.
As DL hasn't ordered a true A320/738 replacement yet. So I think DL will be interested in a similarly sized new Boeing aircraft, if only to become not too Airbus dependent.
RJMAZ wrote:chrisp390 wrote:Does this mean the Boeing NMA is in fact going ahead, and Boeing is maybe just waiting to get past the Max issues before launching it?
I have been saying this for 6 months. The 797 is coming.
It would look really bad to publicly launch a new aircraft when the 737MAX is grounded. Common sense really.
There is no law that states an aircraft must be publicly launched before development can start. Boeing could launch the aircraft on the same day as the first flight if they wanted to. Boeing of course wouldn't do that as keeping things secret for that long puts up the price significantly. On the day the 797 is launched I expect the design work to be near complete, they will already be cutting metal for the landing gear and the engines would be getting assembled.
Well probably not cutting the first metal yet, but launching a new single aisle 797 in 2022 with EIS in 2027 could be a possibility. Boeing may have started development 2 years before launch, waiting for the MAX crisis to quiet down.