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vhtje wrote:I can't click through due to EU data protection laws and US websites' nannying response to it.
How many of those 193 destinations are AA-only? And, how many are not AA?
vhtje wrote:I can't click through due to EU data protection laws and US websites' nannying response to it.
How many of those 193 destinations are AA-only? And, how many are not AA?
Rookie87 wrote:vhtje wrote:I can't click through due to EU data protection laws and US websites' nannying response to it.
How many of those 193 destinations are AA-only? And, how many are not AA?
Article says overall AA is 85%
ITSTours wrote:I am rather impressed by the DEN number. Didn't know that many routes from DEN existed.
bravotango75 wrote:You understand this is about destinations. Unless you are a midcontinent airport it is hard to have a high destination count. Furthermore, this is specifically about domestic destinations, which would be even more exacerbated by not being a mid-continent airport.Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
bravotango75 wrote:Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
MIflyer12 wrote:bravotango75 wrote:Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
NYC, WAS and Bay Area are multi-airport towns. That splits traffic (decreasing gauge, increasing frequency) but also inhibits destination count. WN, by virtue of the 737-700 as its smallest plane, just isn't going to compete with AA at DFW for the smallest markets.
As for the Northeast airports generally, you have to look at differences in population density and distribution. From a hub, you need a destination airport:
- too far away to be considered drivable, at least by some significant portion of business traffic
- serving enough people to be worthwhile
- not so close to another airport that its traffic gets captured (as with a lot of prospective Niagara Falls traffic just driving to BUF, for example)
The Great Plains have quite a few commercial airports that meet those characteristics so it follows that DEN and DFW have lots of domestic destinations served. See the map on page 3 and mentally place DFW, DEN and MCI.
https://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p25-1137.pdf
bravotango75 wrote:Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
bravotango75 wrote:Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
AA777223 wrote:I think DEN benefits from being the Southwestern hub for both UA and WN. Especially when you think about all those sun and snow destinations that are exclusively served from DEN (or at least on those carriers), the only thing that really is close is AA in PHX.
MIflyer12 wrote:As for the Northeast airports generally, you have to look at differences in population density and distribution. From a hub, you need a destination airport:
jplatts wrote:There are still some more domestic nonstop routes such as DFW-CAK, DFW-ALB, DFW-ABE, DFW-ATW, DFW-CRW, DFW-CHO, DFW-DBQ, DFW-DLH, DFW-FAY, DFW-FNT, DFW-GRB, DFW-AZO, DFW-LAN, DFW-PVD, DFW-ROC, DFW-RST, DFW-AVP, DFW-SYR, and DFW-TOL.
jscottwomack wrote:jplatts wrote:There are still some more domestic nonstop routes such as DFW-CAK, DFW-ALB, DFW-ABE, DFW-ATW, DFW-CRW, DFW-CHO, DFW-DBQ, DFW-DLH, DFW-FAY, DFW-FNT, DFW-GRB, DFW-AZO, DFW-LAN, DFW-PVD, DFW-ROC, DFW-RST, DFW-AVP, DFW-SYR, and DFW-TOL.
Several of these have always had me scratching my head as why they have not started them. I know several are within 200 miles of another hub (ORD, PHL) and that might have something to do with it, but I still find it odd they can't fill at least 1 plane a day round-trip from DFW to Green Bay, Appleton, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse.
AA777223 wrote:I think DEN benefits from being the Southwestern hub for both UA and WN. Especially when you think about all those sun and snow destinations that are exclusively served from DEN (or at least on those carriers), the only thing that really is close is AA in PHX. When you combine that with the secondary international expansion that UA has been doing from DEN thanks to the 787, it makes sense.
Honestly, though, I too was surprised it was ranked that high. I expected to see LAX, MIA or even IAH up there.
B752OS wrote:Surprised DFW lacks year round, daily service to a number of northern destinations: BTV, PWM, PVD, ALB, SYR, ROC, MHT and HPN.
BUF is only served once a day. BDL is only served once a day.
B752OS wrote:Surprised DFW lacks year round, daily service to a number of northern destinations: BTV, PWM, PVD, ALB, SYR, ROC, MHT and HPN.
BUF is only served once a day. BDL is only served once a day.
uconn99 wrote:B752OS wrote:BDL is only served once a day.
Typically BDL is 2x daily to DFW, the max issues have caused this to go less than daily at some points of the year. I remember back in the 2000's AA ran BDL-DFW 4x daily.
bravotango75 wrote:Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
ITSTours wrote:
I am rather impressed by the DEN number. Didn't know that many routes from DEN existed.
LAX772LR wrote:
Common sense should tell you that that wouldn't be the case.
Each one of those airports is coastal, so their domestic destinations are going to be limited in at least one direction.
Also, unlike DFW/ORD/ATL/etc, none of those airports are the largest/home/primary domestic gateway for any major carrier.
YouGeeElWhy wrote:bravotango75 wrote:You understand this is about destinations. Unless you are a midcontinent airport it is hard to have a high destination count. Furthermore, this is specifically about domestic destinations, which would be even more exacerbated by not being a mid-continent airport.Figured that BOS, JFK, EWR, LAX or SFO would have more, larger and more influential markets and all.
I feel like you were the user that said something about not believing BOS did not have more destinations than DFW in another thread, but I could be wrong. Maybe you did not read the follow-ups on that other thread.