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Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:03 pm

Yikes! Not great for those workers to start the New Year with this news! :shock: :|

A couple of links to the story.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/busi ... index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/10/boeing- ... -jobs.html
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:27 pm

The bean counters in Chicago should lose tons of sleep over how much they have affected the lives of everyone involved in the production and incidents of the MAX by cutting corners and being dishonest just to maximize profits and line the pocketbooks in Wall Street. Such a shame.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:33 pm

So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:36 pm

Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?


There are something like 100 +/- fuselages already sitting at Spirit ready to go, so even if Boeing started assembly again tomorrow, there would be quite a while until they would need more product from Spirit. That's on top of the aircraft already fully built and sitting in Washington.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:41 pm

Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?


It's not just their expectation about how soon the MAX production will restart. It's also related to their anticipation of a lower production rate once the production will be resumed.

This is what Gentile was saying a week ago:
“Going forward we will need to make additional decisions to align our cost structure with new production rates, which have not yet been established but we anticipate will be lower for an extended period of time,” Gentile wrote.


Now we have to see how much of this expected lower rate is related to the surplus of fuselages that Spirit has already produced.

Source:
https://www.kansas.com/news/business/article239009448.html
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:33 pm

Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?

The article I read said MAX was 50% of Spirit's business so laying off 15% seems to be a fairly conservative step.

The bigger concern would be that some smaller downstream concern is 100% dependent on MAX business.

If such a firm goes under it could take months if not years to qualify a replacement.

Boeing will need to find someone other than clowns or monkeys to do a deep dive on such issues.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm

Once MAX deliveries restart, it will take months to ramp up production and train new workforce.

Revelation wrote:
Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?

The article I read said MAX was 50% of Spirit's business so laying off 15% seems to be a fairly conservative step.


That depends on how you read it.

I read it as 15% of the MAX share at Spirit. From this point of view, that's a lot of workforce.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm

Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?


Boeing stopped the line. Spirit does not want inventory on hand for a plane that is not being produced.
It sucks, but this is the real ramification of the current groundings.

It will get worse through the supply chains before it gets better, and yes it will make it harder for Boeing to get the Max line rolling along again when production resumes.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:44 pm

casinterest wrote:
Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?


Boeing stopped the line. Spirit does not want inventory on hand for a plane that is not being produced.


A bit too late for that, Spirit already has an inventory of some 100 fuselage sections.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:46 pm

PepeTheFrog wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?


Boeing stopped the line. Spirit does not want inventory on hand for a plane that is not being produced.


A bit too late for that, Spirit already has an inventory of some 100 fuselage sections.

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I should have prefaced with "Overly Excessive" before the inventory statement.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit Aerosystems to cut 2,800 jobs as workers feel pain of grounding

Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:27 pm

Revelation wrote:
Noshow wrote:
So Spirit doesn't expect to restart MAX production soon?

The article I read said MAX was 50% of Spirit's business so laying off 15% seems to be a fairly conservative step.

The bigger concern would be that some smaller downstream concern is 100% dependent on MAX business.

If such a firm goes under it could take months if not years to qualify a replacement.

Boeing will need to find someone other than clowns or monkeys to do a deep dive on such issues.

Thats what would kill the max, loosing a few 737 specialists shops that do one tiny thing and have like 10 guys, but no one else is qualified to do, and the problem Boeing has is that its such an old design unless the documentation is perfect, they might miss losing one of those shops till its to late, cause they are a level 3-4 shop, building a legacy part designed in the 1960s.

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