Excellent news. A380 and A350 should be fine for EK fleet, drop other birds.

A lot of airlines retired old planes and are shrinking capacity. I wouldn't exclude that Covid 19 turns out to be a blessing for Emirates nine months from now.

As per Tim Clark interview with Bloomberg Tv, the airline is set to receive 3 A380s before year end, 1 of them will be configured with the new PE.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -timetable

Emirates Tim Clark:

- No delivery schedule for the B777X
- 3 A380s will be delivered before the end of the year. 1 of them will be configured with Premium Economy.
- the airline aims to have all A380s in air by early 2022.
-The airline is seeing sharp increase in bookings for 2021.

More can be found here at https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -timetable

Telling that no comments from sir Clarke on the five he wanting to cancel.

Even these three will be parked up with the 100 others! Stupid to take them. Orders should be the cancel.s.

Western727 wrote:

. TBH, I don't see the 380 having a bright future in the 2020s and 2030s, with increased p2p flying that reduces the need for ME hubs.

We've been awaiting the dominance of point-to-point for 20 years now. It hasn't happened.

The vast majority of A350 / 787 are used from hubs. The occasional ULH routes are exceptional and, of course, still involve a hub at one end...

The 777-9 engine is certified, isn't it?

Noshow wrote:

The 777-9 engine is certified, isn't it?

Yes that's right.

Ge aviation posted on their websities about this few weeks back.

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates will operate daily B777 to both EDI and GLA.

EDI has been dropped

EK doesn't plan on resuming their seasonal ZAG flights this summer. For the time being FZ will take over.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2020/11/fl ... tions.html

They definitely need lower-capacity aircraft and not the 400plus only..Are they ever getting 787s?

xwb777 wrote:

As per Tim Clark interview with Bloomberg Tv, the airline is set to receive 3 A380s before year end, 1 of them will be configured with the new PE.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -timetable

A bit more from the textual version:

Emirates will receive three of the jumbos by the end of the year, at least one of which will have a premium economy cabin, the executive said Wednesday. That will leave five more to be delivered at a later date.

Strongly suggests to me at least that there will be a deferment of the last five, otherwise we would have been given a date.

Ref: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-777x-jet

ELBOB wrote:

Western727 wrote:

. TBH, I don't see the 380 having a bright future in the 2020s and 2030s, with increased p2p flying that reduces the need for ME hubs.

We've been awaiting the dominance of point-to-point for 20 years now. It hasn't happened.

The vast majority of A350 / 787 are used from hubs. The occasional ULH routes are exceptional and, of course, still involve a hub at one end...

Not "dominance", no, but the shift was happening pre-COVID, even if a hub is at one end. Just 10 years ago folks here in AUS had to make double connections to fly to secondary cities in the EU, western Asia, Africa, etc. No more, thanks to BA to LHR and LH to FRA, for example. The days of being forced to transit via JFK/ORD/DFW/IAH/etc and then again in the EU/ME/African regional hub are largely gone. Just look at BA's US offerings 20 years ago and what they offered pre-COVID. Thanks to the 330/787/350 for making such routes possible and profitable (outside of a pandemic, of course).

I and a few world travelers I know have loved the existence of the LHR flight since it started several years ago...for a reason. Trunk routes weren't as dominant in 2019 as they were even 10 years prior.

Emirates' first Airbus A380 fitted with all-new premium economy 'sleeperette' seats will arrive next month, with two more to follow before the year ends.

However, the seat may officially remain under wraps or at least off the airline's flying schedule until the middle of 2021.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... um-economy

EK7777 wrote:

Emirates' first Airbus A380 fitted with all-new premium economy 'sleeperette' seats will arrive next month, with two more to follow before the year ends.

However, the seat may officially remain under wraps or at least off the airline's flying schedule until the middle of 2021.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... um-economy

In other words - grounded.

Emirates President Tim Clark insists on B777X testing in Dubai summer conditions.

Quote:
“ I am not interested in (fuel) improvement packages or later mods (modifications) and I insist on the engines being fully stressed in Dubai summer conditions,” Sir Tim Clark said in an exclusive interview.

“I want the 777X doing flight tests out of Dubai fully loaded in summer to really stress the engines.””

Source: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/emi ... 7x-engine/

Opus99 wrote:

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates President Tim Clark insists on B777X testing in Dubai summer conditions.

Quote:
“ I am not interested in (fuel) improvement packages or later mods (modifications) and I insist on the engines being fully stressed in Dubai summer conditions,” Sir Tim Clark said in an exclusive interview.

“I want the 777X doing flight tests out of Dubai fully loaded in summer to really stress the engines.””

Source: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/emi ... 7x-engine/

As 747classic pointed out in the 777X production thread the GE9X has a special variant for hot and low operations tailored to the Middle East conditions

Sales speak for 'normal' conditions performance erosion despite 'harsh' conditions, linked to higher OEM fixed price maintenance. The tough negotiations relate to the rate of erosion, trigger point for engine replacement / downtime, and revised cost of said maintenance contract.

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates Tim Clark:

- No delivery schedule for the B777X
- 3 A380s will be delivered before the end of the year. 1 of them will be configured with Premium Economy.
- the airline aims to have all A380s in air by early 2022.
-The airline is seeing sharp increase in bookings for 2021.

More can be found here at https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -timetable

Some fact checking for Tim Clark (or does he also believe in alternative facts) : The GE9X engine has been already certified at September 25th 2020. The airframe and airframe /engine combination has to be certified.

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates President Tim Clark insists on B777X testing in Dubai summer conditions.

Quote:
“ I am not interested in (fuel) improvement packages or later mods (modifications) and I insist on the engines being fully stressed in Dubai summer conditions,” Sir Tim Clark said in an exclusive interview.

“I want the 777X doing flight tests out of Dubai fully loaded in summer to really stress the engines.””

Source: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/emi ... 7x-engine/

Like a clockwork. Let me guess 777X is close to certification.

This Noah's Arc flying away from Dubai vision screwed RR. His imaginary loads and unrealistic thrust requirements put RR in a pickle. Now GE's turn.

Take out empty/non-rev premium seats, showers, bars, requirement should be far less for any frame and to run a profitable airline.

with this BLAST to both BOEING & GE,does he have info of the 9X missing spec or is he just being difficult and trying to get out from having to take all those planes?

dtw2hyd wrote:

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates President Tim Clark insists on B777X testing in Dubai summer conditions.

Quote:
“ I am not interested in (fuel) improvement packages or later mods (modifications) and I insist on the engines being fully stressed in Dubai summer conditions,” Sir Tim Clark said in an exclusive interview.

“I want the 777X doing flight tests out of Dubai fully loaded in summer to really stress the engines.””

Source: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/emi ... 7x-engine/

Like a clockwork. Let me guess 777X is close to certification.

This Noah's Arc flying away from Dubai vision screwed RR. His imaginary loads and unrealistic thrust requirements put RR in a pickle. Now GE's turn.

Take out empty/non-rev premium seats, showers, bars, requirement should be far less for any frame and to run a profitable airline.

747classic wrote:

xwb777 wrote:

Emirates Tim Clark:

- No delivery schedule for the B777X
- 3 A380s will be delivered before the end of the year. 1 of them will be configured with Premium Economy.
- the airline aims to have all A380s in air by early 2022.
-The airline is seeing sharp increase in bookings for 2021.

More can be found here at https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -timetable

Some fact checking for Tim Clark (or does he also believe in alternative facts) : The GE9X engine has been already certified at September 25th 2020. The airframe and airframe /engine combination has to be certified.

I'm sure he aware sir time that 9X engine is the certified.

he was supposed to retire? He outstaying his welcome frankly and looking silly with remarkings like this onthe engines. His credibility is shott.

747classic wrote:

Some fact checking for Tim Clark (or does he also believe in alternative facts) : The GE9X engine has been already certified at September 25th 2020. The airframe and airframe /engine combination has to be certified.

Did you watch the Bloomberg interview?

Not trying to defend Tim Clark, but his words were "it hasn't finished its certification program yet, both airframe and engine". That sounds remarkably close to the airframe/engine combination has yet to be certified.

EK has been working with Boeing for years on development of this aircraft. The fact of the matter was that the aircraft wasn't delivered as contracted with Boeing in June, even if that was to the benefit of EK's cash position.

FrenchPotatoEye wrote:

he was supposed to retire? He outstaying his welcome frankly and looking silly with remarkings like this onthe engines. His credibility is shott.

It's not really a good sign for EK that STC had delayed retirement at least twice now and he is still the one the financial and aviation media types go to for information. You would think at this time they would have at least named a successor and that person would be sharing the stage with STC serving to make the introductions to ease the transition to his successor.

Revelation wrote:

FrenchPotatoEye wrote:

he was supposed to retire? He outstaying his welcome frankly and looking silly with remarkings like this onthe engines. His credibility is shott.

It's not really a good sign for EK that STC had delayed retirement at least twice now and he is still the one the financial and aviation media types go to for information. You would think at this time they would have at least named a successor and that person would be sharing the stage with STC serving to make the introductions to ease the transition to his successor.

Or the airline owner wants him to prove his business model works before he can withdraw his nest egg from Emirati banks and exit the country. Probably they are in no rush to announce his retirement.

A6-ECL 77W just taxied past me at DXB as EK 2646.
All white.... off to a new home perhaps...?

TUGMASTER wrote:

A6-ECL 77W just taxied past me at DXB as EK 2646.
All white.... off to a new home perhaps...?

Will be off to new home soon. Doing flight tests today.

TUGMASTER wrote:

A6-ECL 77W just taxied past me at DXB as EK 2646.
All white.... off to a new home perhaps...?

Returned to the lessor GECAS ?

747classic wrote:

TUGMASTER wrote:

A6-ECL 77W just taxied past me at DXB as EK 2646.
All white.... off to a new home perhaps...?

Returned to the lessor GECAS ?

Will return in a few days now that EOL maintenance and the new paint job are done.

Interesting that ECL retired after 12 years of service, where as the other GECAS frames (EBB, EBC, EBE and EBG) all flew for 15 years before retiring.

Actually, it landed, just in front of us as we were lining up for departure...
Was gone for around an hour, so as poster AirIndia said, flight test before a new owner.

TUGMASTER wrote:

Actually, it landed, just in front of us as we were lining up for departure...
Was gone for around an hour, so as poster AirIndia said, flight test before a new owner.

They do flight tests after EOL maintenance regardless of whether it's going to a new owner or not.

All pre-retirement test flights use the EK2646 flight number / callsign.

I doubt GECAS will be finding any new owners in the current state of the aviation industry, so it will most likely join other retired EK birds in CQM or become the second 77W to get a freighter conversion.

Anyone an idea where I can find out which 77W’s have the new interior or not? Boarding a 77W in a few days and like to know in advance.

EK7777 wrote:

Interesting that ECL retired after 12 years of service, where as the other GECAS frames (EBB, EBC, EBE and EBG) all flew for 15 years before retiring.

Most EK leases from here on are 12 years, with 3 year option to roll (at lower rate), similar to the A380 (but without the deferred EOL / on demand use option), and designed originally to dovetail with replacement deliveries (A350 then 777X, now...)

Avgeek21 wrote:

Anyone an idea where I can find out which 77W’s have the new interior or not? Boarding a 77W in a few days and like to know in advance.

Check the spreadsheet in my signature.

A6-EPV to A6-EQG have new business class, but regular first class suites.

A6-EQH to A6-EQP have new business class and new fully enclosed first class suites.

According to the Aviation Journalist Andreas Spaeth, Emirates will receive their last 3 Airbus A380s in 2022: two in April, last one in May. Three Airbus Aircraft superjumbos for EK are still due for delivery in December this year, among them the first with the new Premium Economy cabin, on December 20.

xwb777 wrote:

According to the Aviation Journalist Andreas Spaeth, Emirates will receive their last 3 Airbus A380s in 2022: two in April, last one in May.

Seems they could not twist Airbus's arm and get them to accept longer deferrals, given most of the A380 fleet is probably still goinig to be parked 1H2021.

Looks like only two frames have yet to fly:

Aviation Toulouse @Frenchpainter

Two to go... #A380 #AvGeek

Ref: https://twitter.com/Frenchpainter/statu ... 7238453248

Emirates has received its 116th A380, A6-EVL. The new aircraft is in a 3 class configuration.

Would it be possible and/or cheaper to take delivery as unassembled kit assuming Airbus can transport these structure sections to DXB/DWC. I am guessing financing a kit would be near impossible.

EK7777 wrote:

Avgeek21 wrote:

Anyone an idea where I can find out which 77W’s have the new interior or not? Boarding a 77W in a few days and like to know in advance.

Check the spreadsheet in my signature.

A6-EPV to A6-EQG have new business class, but regular first class suites.

A6-EQH to A6-EQP have new business class and new fully enclosed first class suites.

Wow, very detailed. Exactly what I’ve been looking for. Well done.

Emirates says only one of the two remaining A380 deliveries for December will have its new premium economy seats, and the seats themselves won't be launched until early-mid 2021: https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ery-launch

Emirates has taken delivery of its 117th A380, A6-EVM. The next A380 delivery will debut the all new Premium Economy seats.

Boeing 777-36NER (A6-ECL) has come off a 12-year GECAS lease.

It is currently being ferried to Tarbes (LDE) for storage as EK2515 in all-white livery.

I think there are a few -EB* series left in the fleet.


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I think there are a few -EB* series left in the fleet.


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Excluding A6-EBI which is already in the retirement process, there are 10 frames remaining. Six of which are -36NER GECAS leases.

Emirates today is set to receive its 118th A380. It will be featuring 58 premium Economy seats.

Emirates reveals their new Premium Economy cabin.

This new config will have 14 first class, 76 business, 56 premium econ and 338 economy seats.

https://twitter.com/emirates/status/1343847194831544320

Self deleted.Wrong thread.

Interesting quote from the announcement. EK now does not expect the X before 2023.

Emirates’ premium economy seats will also be installed on some of its Boeing 777X aircraft which are only due to join the fleet in 2023

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... ll-cabins/