dragon6172 wrote:IADCA wrote:dragon6172 wrote:You don't know for certain they didnt tell ATC.
Well, the ATC recording is out there, and it sure doesn't sound like they did on that part of it. And you have absolutely zero evidence at present in support of your implied view that they DID tell ATC. Moreover, it doesn't matter: if they'd told ATC "we need to go out to dump fuel over the ocean," they'd have been there. There's quite possibly a reason that they needed to suddenly dump where they did - and maybe they said something to Approach that wasn't picked up on the recordings made public so far - but for that dude to say that "the pilots are not the ones deciding where they fly" is absurd when applied to an emergency situation.
The ATC recording? From the FAA? Or some recording from an enthusiast website?
I do agree with your last part about the other statement about pilots deciding where to fly. My only point is folks are commenting with definite statements with incomplete information. I think it's quite possible the pilots didnt tell ATC about the fuel dump, but I wouldn't say it definitely based on a recording from LiveATC
You’re not suggesting VASAviation made up a fake ATC recording are you?
Yes, it is possible that the pilots requested to dump fuel at 2375’ and ATC approved. But how likely do you think that is?
1) ATC offered it earlier and the pilots said it was unnecessary.
2) ATC would have known the request would have been fulfilled at below 2500’ in a large metropolis over buildings and people at the last minute of the plane’s flight
3) would ATC have vectored other planes through the same space as fuel dumping occurred? Because it looks like other flights followed DL89 to lax.