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PANAMsterdam
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:29 am

Kno wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
So it's a double first. The first 777 they decide to retire (aside from damaged frames) that happens to be the first they received. "It has flown for 20,663 cycles. In this time it has flown for an amazing 100,311 hours." That's an average of 4h51 per flight.


That sounds abnormally short, I would have thought the flights their 777s fly average between 6-8 hours?


BA sometimes sends big planes on short trips.

Before retirement BA sent a 767 to AMS and MAD every morning, today they have sent a 777 to TLV (4:15 hour flight), and also a 777 to MAD
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:40 am

PANAMsterdam wrote:
Kno wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
So it's a double first. The first 777 they decide to retire (aside from damaged frames) that happens to be the first they received. "It has flown for 20,663 cycles. In this time it has flown for an amazing 100,311 hours." That's an average of 4h51 per flight.


That sounds abnormally short, I would have thought the flights their 777s fly average between 6-8 hours?


BA sometimes sends big planes on short trips.

Before retirement BA sent a 767 to AMS and MAD every morning, today they have sent a 777 to TLV (4:15 hour flight), and also a 777 to MAD


The A350-1000 also goes to TLV.
 
timtam
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:33 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
I would like to see the first BA 777 preserved in a museum.


Then you should buy it and donate it to a worthy museum :)
 
CHRISBA35X
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:22 am

Tedd wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:

Close - 76B engines. Then G-VIIA to -O (plus - RAES) have 85B engines, and the rest of the -VIIx frames are 90B engines. Afterward, with the YMM units, BA went to the RR Trent 895-17. Did any other carrier opt for the Trent 895?

Does anyone know the story behind why G-RAES has such an out of place reg? As for the Rolls, I believe AA DL Cathay ANZ, and Kenya Airways all use RR engines. Cathay have a couple 773As still using them I think, but the 772ERs and 772As are gone. EK Also had some RR 773s[/quote

Singapore & EL-AL too, probably more. I was always led to believe it was the most popular engine on the B772.


Thai 77A/77E/773
Malaysian 77E
Singapore 77E/773
Cathay 77A/773
Emirates 77A/77E/773
El-Al 77E
ANZ 77E
Delta 77E
Kenya Airways 77E
BA 77A/77E
American 77E

Not sure what Egyptair and Asiana use on their 77Es, Pratts I think.
 
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:36 am

CHRISBA35X wrote:
Tedd wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:

Does anyone know the story behind why G-RAES has such an out of place reg? As for the Rolls, I believe AA DL Cathay ANZ, and Kenya Airways all use RR engines. Cathay have a couple 773As still using them I think, but the 772ERs and 772As are gone. EK Also had some RR 773s[/quote

Singapore & EL-AL too, probably more. I was always led to believe it was the most popular engine on the B772.


Thai 77A/77E/773
Malaysian 77E
Singapore 77E/773
Cathay 77A/773
Emirates 77A/77E/773
El-Al 77E
ANZ 77E
Delta 77E
Kenya Airways 77E
BA 77E
American 77E

Not sure what Egyptair and Asiana use on their 77Es, Pratts I think. Both Pratts...

BA 77A are GE90. (-76B variant).

Pratt comparison
United 77A/ 77E
Asiana 77E
Korean 77E/773
Japan 77A/773 (77E are GE90)
ANA 77A/77E/773
Vietnam 77E
Egypt Air 77E
Air China 77A
Air Austral 77E (ordered by ILFC from new)


GE comparison (only when engine choice was possible)
United 77E (inherited from Continental)
Aeroméxico 77E
Air France 77E
KLM 77E
British 77A/77E
Alitalia 77E
Austrian 77E
Japan 77E
China Southern 77A/77E
Saudia 77E
Kuwait 77E
Aeroflot 77E (ordered by ILFC from new)
Pakistan 77E
TAAG 77E
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:16 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
Before retirement BA sent a 767 to AMS and MAD every morning, today they have sent a 777 to TLV (4:15 hour flight), and also a 777 to MAD


Those 767's were probably from the sub-fleet that BA had for short-haul flights with a higher density seat config and (I think) adjustable seats towards the front for Club Europe depending on loadings/demand. Back in those days it was possible to get a widebody on a domestic flight as the same 767's were also used on some LHR-GLA and LHR-EDI flights.

For long-haul flights, another sub-fleet of 767's existed that had a different interior config.

Nowadays, any widebody usage on short-haul flights seems to come from the same pool of aircraft used for long-haul flights.
 
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:53 pm

Boeing74741R wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
Before retirement BA sent a 767 to AMS and MAD every morning, today they have sent a 777 to TLV (4:15 hour flight), and also a 777 to MAD


Those 767's were probably from the sub-fleet that BA had for short-haul flights with a higher density seat config and (I think) adjustable seats towards the front for Club Europe depending on loadings/demand. Back in those days it was possible to get a widebody on a domestic flight as the same 767's were also used on some LHR-GLA and LHR-EDI flights.

For long-haul flights, another sub-fleet of 767's existed that had a different interior config.

Nowadays, any widebody usage on short-haul flights seems to come from the same pool of aircraft used for long-haul flights.


You do get the odd 777 on a UK internal shuttle service. Usually to mop up multiple cancellations, or for narrow body maintenance cover.
 
Arion640
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:57 pm

amc737 wrote:
The G-ZZZs have never been based at Gatwick, in fact I don't think G-ZZZC ever went to Gatwick, nor the previously retired G-ZZZD & G-ZZZE. G-ZZZA & G-ZZZB have been to Gatwick but rarely only on diverts etc.

The first British Airways 777 ever to land on UK soil was N77779 which became G-ZZZA. It arrived on 20 April 1995 in the morning for some PR with British Airways before leaving that evening back to Seattle. It was parked at BA maintenance, I remember they parked a 737 next to it as at the time a big thing was made of the GE90 being the same diameter as a 737 fuselage. Later the 777 was towed to Terminal 4. G-ZZZC was the first 777 delivered to Heathrow on 12/11/95 and flew Heathrow to Paris rotations as has already been mentioned. Delivery was delayed due to certification of the GE90 which BA was the launch customer.

Of course it was entirely a coincidence that two days before N77779's visit to Heathrow on 18 April 1995 N771UA visited which was the first 777 to visit Heathrow. It was parked by Uniteds hanger and office complex south of T4.

amc737


G-ZZZA was the first aircraft i ever flew in. I’ll be sad when she bows out later this year.
 
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Re: BA retires first 777

Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:59 pm

G-RAES was registered in honour of the Royal Aeronautical Society

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