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80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:17 am

Argentinian authorities arrested the flight crew of a Martinair B744F after they found coke on the plane.

https://www.mbs.news/2020/01/eighty-kil ... broad.html
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:25 am

I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:38 am

DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....


Doesn't say where on the aircraft the drugs were found so it is kind of hard to determine whether or not they knew about it.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:43 am

DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....




That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:47 am

Spetsnaz55 wrote:
DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....




That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:48 am

Spetsnaz55 wrote:
DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....




That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Is Argentina a Pepsi nation like the Caymans?
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:02 am

As someone who has had to go through this myself (and yes, with no knowledge of where it came from, who put it there, etc.) I feel for the crew if they weren't part of this. It is not a nice experience to be trapped in a foreign country, getting interrogated about something you know nothing about...possibly in a language that you don't know legal jargon in, and don't have anyone to help you. Those that hide drugs on planes have no idea (nor do they care) what they can put innocent people through for their stupidity.

Now, if they did have something to do with it, then I don't have much sympathy for them, but we shall see what the investigation discovers.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:35 am

On a Dutch site it said the drugs were found hidden between the pallets on the main deck. It also mentioned the loaders were being detained and interrogated.

An awful situation to be in if innocent. I highly doubt all 3 pilots are guilty but we’ll see. It’s happens before.

When some other Dutch MD11s went for heavy maintenance to China there were several cases of coke being found behind cabin panels. As they flew a lot of Caribbean routes this was hidden and never picked up in Amsterdam. The planes apparently flew around with coke for a long time. I’m pretty sure it happens on a daily basis and we know nothing.

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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:37 am

I wondered for a while how smuggling soft drinks could be a crime...
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:55 am

stl07 wrote:
Spetsnaz55 wrote:
DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....




That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.


Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:56 am

I would think it is standard procedure in this case, in any country, to detain anybody that could be suspect for interrogation, but I could be wrong.

Now, as to how that interrogation and investigation are carried out, and whether the suspects' rights are respected, that's a different matter altogether...

This sort of trafficking usually involves a network of ground/ramp staff and does not generally encompass pilots as there is little they can bring to the operation and they are harder to buy out.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:10 am

airbuster wrote:
When some other Dutch MD11s went for heavy maintenance to China there were several cases of coke being found behind cabin panels. As they flew a lot of Caribbean routes this was hidden and never picked up in Amsterdam. The planes apparently flew around with coke for a long time. I’m pretty sure it happens on a daily basis and we know nothing.


Quick, call the FAA if they ever overflew the US, the planes may not be considering the cocaine mod as part of their BOW.. wonder if this was WN's problem too. ;)
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 am

DDR wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Spetsnaz55 wrote:



That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.


Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.

There were passengers at the airport where the freighter visited. Can't wait till they are blamed
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:35 am

I am not clear why the thread title mentions the aircraft type instead of the operator?? Does the aircraft type even matter ?Any aircraft can carry 80kg weight. Its not like the aircraft decided to help itself to the contraband!
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:42 am

Wonder if the Argentine authorities can confiscate the airplane?
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:04 am

I thought for sure this was gonna be western global
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:27 am

ethernal wrote:
airbuster wrote:
When some other Dutch MD11s went for heavy maintenance to China there were several cases of coke being found behind cabin panels. As they flew a lot of Caribbean routes this was hidden and never picked up in Amsterdam. The planes apparently flew around with coke for a long time. I’m pretty sure it happens on a daily basis and we know nothing.


Quick, call the FAA if they ever overflew the US, the planes may not be considering the cocaine mod as part of their BOW.. wonder if this was WN's problem too. ;)


Well they were built in the early 90s and not too far from Compton. Maybe it was line fit :cheeky:.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:32 am

ikramerica wrote:
Spetsnaz55 wrote:
DDR wrote:
I highly doubt the crew knew anything about the drugs. But hey, if it makes Argentina feel tough.....




That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Is Argentina a Pepsi nation like the Caymans?

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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:59 am

Cocaine would not be considered part of the BOW. This should be noted on the manifest as cargo.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:16 am

years ago we found 20KG of coke behind the Lavatory wall during an Overhaul of a 747SP, I came on shift to a Major Freak out with DEA. Customs and FBI on the scene.
the mechanic who found it swore he'd been poisoned and waned a week off with Pay/ We sent him to medical. Let him go home to shower and change his underwear and he was back to work the next day/ Nobody even knows how long the Cocaine was even there. But the FBI was there on every other Overhaul where we tore down the Cabin and removed the Lavs. We had to use special Fasteners to re-install the lavs to make it harder for them to be tampered with..
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:25 am

BravoOne wrote:
Wonder if the Argentine authorities can confiscate the airplane?


Maybe if Argentina has civil forfeiture laws. This plane could technically have been confiscated through forfeiture in the US though?
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:13 am

This article (in Dutch) shows a picture of the catch lying on the maindeck in front of empty boxes that normally hold the cans of engine oil. Easy way in & out, these boxes are normally kept up front on the maindeck or in the bulk hold.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/6827919 ... angehouden
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:43 am

DDR wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Spetsnaz55 wrote:



That's it thread over. Case solved. Wasnt the crew. Lock it up

Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.


Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.

At anet, even on freighters, it is still the passengers fault.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:45 am

stl07 wrote:
DDR wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.


Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.

There were passengers at the airport where the freighter visited. Can't wait till they are blamed


More importantly, is it a write off ? :-)
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:22 am

Im waiting for the comment which notes that the aircraft was a Boeing aircraft and that its 1) linked to the MAX crashes or 2) evidence of the decline of the safety culture at Boeing.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:42 am

thaiflyer wrote:
stl07 wrote:
DDR wrote:

Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.

There were passengers at the airport where the freighter visited. Can't wait till they are blamed


More importantly, is it a write off ? :-)


Nope. Some speed tape, or, it will buff right out.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:57 am

The transportation of illegal drugs on cargo flights, especially with the volume in this case, often involves 1 or more crew members as well as loaders or mx staff at either end of the planned flights. It is not surprising that police at the receiving end of such a flight will detain and interrogate the crew, loaders and mx staff involved with this very intensely if such illegal cargo is found. One has to wonder how this was discovered, if someone ratted out to the police to be on the lookout or if there had been a running investigation traced back to previous flights.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:21 pm

stl07 wrote:
Welcome to a.net, somehow, everything is the passengers' fault.


Indeed! :rotfl:

DDR wrote:
Your attempt to be a smart ass failed because this was a freighter. If you had actually read the thread you would understand that there were no passengers. Because it was a FREIGHTER.


The fact it was a FREIGHTER made his comment even funnier. Maybe a recalibration of your humour sensors might be in order? :wink2:
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:25 pm

Regardless, it would be dumb to let them leave town.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:25 pm

ltbewr wrote:
The transportation of illegal drugs on cargo flights, especially with the volume in this case, often involves 1 or more crew members as well as loaders or mx staff at either end of the planned flights. It is not surprising that police at the receiving end of such a flight will detain and interrogate the crew, loaders and mx staff involved with this very intensely if such illegal cargo is found. One has to wonder how this was discovered, if someone ratted out to the police to be on the lookout or if there had been a running investigation traced back to previous flights.


It's also possible that one of more of the crew might have been involved through coercion.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm

Holding the crew for a couple rounds of questioning would seem prudent.

Would The Netherlands routinely allow the extradition of Dutch citizens back to Argentina? If the Argentines can't be fairly confident of that, this is their only chance with the crew.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:41 pm

I always wondered what the “C” stood for in “BCF”. It’s the Boeing Cocaine Feature!
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:19 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
Nope. Some speed tape, or, it will buff right out.
They got 80 kg of coke, surely they don’t need speed as well.
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:48 pm

Delta bought several stored Eastern L-1011s after they shut down. During routine mx checks they found coke that had been hidden in the wheel well. Whoever was supposed to remove it didn't get the chance before Eastern shut down.
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm

Pull the ATC tapes and I can tell ya real quick if the pilots are in on it!
 
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Re: 80 kg (175 lbs) of coke found on B744F, crew arrested

Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:20 am

Surprised no one bothered to post the video of the drugs being loaded on the plane!

https://www.clarin.com/policiales/cocai ... ni6Ta.html

Plane arrived on Tuesday from AMS and Sao Paulo (not sure if VCP or GRU), it was unloaded and readied for the return to AMS via UIO. At the last minute, two vans approached the plane and men loaded by hand 2 o 3 boxes labelled as auto parts (a common export from Argentina). That was being monitored by video and caught the attention of the police, that boarded the plane and found that those boxes were not on the cargo manifest and contained aprox 80 cocaine bricks, of 1 kg each. Drug comes from either Colombia, Peru or Bolivia. GRU & EZE are used as transhipment points. 5 local Martinair EZE employees are in custody as it is the crew, all Dutch nationals. There were 2 horse caretakers on the plane as passengers, looking after some animals on the flight. Those were deemed to have no connection with the episode and were not taken into custody. The plane has been "detained" at EZE since Tuesday and KLM says it is cooperating fully with the Argentinian authorities.
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