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SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:32 am

4 x A346 and 5 x A343 are up for sale.

SAA recently acquired 4 x A350 on relatively short term leases which displaced some A340s. I suspect more 350s may arrive if they succeed in shifting these A340s.

https://simpleflying.com/saa-a340-sale/
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:42 am

I expect they will be hard to sell them and most likely be scrapped.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:45 am

they get 4 A350 but want to seel 9 A340?? that's a big reduction of fleet

I don't think anyone will buy any of that planes, maybe just for scrapping and spares for other airlines, very few A340 left flying and most airlines are already on the replacement process of all of them, so unless they sell any of them for VIP conversion I don't see any market.
Air Zimbabwe could buy one or two to replace the B767 and restart flights to Europe or Asia.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:47 am

Makes sense although it would mean a significant downsizing. They must plan on cutting some routes if they are only bringing in 4 A350s, unless they have some more lined up if they get their finances in order. Sidenote 3 of their A343s are younger than their A346s, they have to be some of youngest around.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:30 am

Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?

Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:44 am

I don't think downsizing is necessarily a bad thing for SAA now. Either they go into liquidation, or they turn things around slowly.

I would say, selling the old 340's makes sense- not that they will find a proper customer for it. Only keeping the profitable routes with leased A350's sounds like the only logical approach now.

downsizing also means cutting jobs, but then unions strike again, I wonder what will happen this time.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:45 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?


Which countries uses 707s?
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:45 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?


There are still 707s in Africa? Are you sure?

blacksoviet wrote:
Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?


viewtopic.php?t=1355819

Depends on the version, but an A340-300 is pretty much on par with a 707 whereas the -600 burns 1 - 1,5 tons more. On the other hand, the A340 is at least twice as big and flies much, much further.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:46 am

There is anyway quite a few A350s stored that SAA can get their hand on. If they get the money
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:01 am

The only carrier that I can for see being interested in purchasing these birds would be Portugal's Hi Fly.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:30 am

behramjee wrote:
The only carrier that I can for see being interested in purchasing these birds would be Portugal's Hi Fly.


and Plus ultra airlines flying to south America with them...
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:54 am

Unfortunately, I think the only party interested is Coca Cola, to make cans out of them.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:16 pm

Iran could use these planes to replace more ancient ones they have.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:23 pm

Air Zim is already in the process of Introducing B777 bought from MH. So this is a no go.

As for the A340 I'm wondering why no aircraft have been converted to freighters, such as the DC10 or MD11?
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:32 pm

Lufthansa still flies A340-600 to cape town.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:42 pm

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Iran could use these planes to replace more ancient ones they have.

They would have to buy them from a thrid party if SAA is to avoid US sanctions.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:48 pm

SR380 wrote:

As for the A340 I'm wondering why no aircraft have been converted to freighters, such as the DC10 or MD11?

Not enough of them to be worthwhile. Each A340 variant would have to be certified separately. Only 218 of the most popular A340 model, the A343, were built, and who knows how many are still around and in acceptable shape for freighter conversion. Forget about the A346 (97 built).

The MD-11 has a conversion because although it was also built in few numbers most pax airlines were dropping them from their fleet when they had plenty of life left (often after only ~5 years of service) and McDD has did all the design for a freighter early on.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:01 pm

migair54 wrote:
they get 4 A350 but want to seel 9 A340?? that's a big reduction of fleet

I don't think anyone will buy any of that planes, maybe just for scrapping and spares for other airlines, very few A340 left flying and most airlines are already on the replacement process of all of them, so unless they sell any of them for VIP conversion I don't see any market.
Air Zimbabwe could buy one or two to replace the B767 and restart flights to Europe or Asia.

SAA is bankrupt. Trying to be everything is a sure way to burn through rescue funds. The South African government has more pressing needs (electricity).

SAA wasn't managed as a company, like Alitalia and Air India it was managed for prestige and jobs. Operations based companies must always be managed tightly for efficiency. SAA wasn't...

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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:47 am

The local online papers also report "15 spare engines are up for sale". No more details than that.

Some also report that the planes new would be 'worth R37 billion'. I almost feel this number is out there to make the public feel good, that SAA will be getting 'billions' from the sale. However, of course the reality of selling A340s with no market is very different to the perception of big incoming cash. Overall though, I think this is a good move, but also sad to see those planes go.

https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Industr ... t-20200116

https://ewn.co.za/2020/01/16/south-afri ... nt-reuters
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:39 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?

Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?

Which countries?
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:22 am

I was at Airways Park about an hour ago and they are holding a lunchtime prayer vigil in the atrium to pray for the airline's future.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:52 am

andz wrote:
I was at Airways Park about an hour ago and they are holding a lunchtime prayer vigil in the atrium to pray for the airline's future.


Yeah that’ll do it
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:18 pm

cedarjet wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?

Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?

Which countries?


Unfortunately, I think this statement is false and the 707 isn't in operation anymore in Africa.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:01 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
Iran could use these planes to replace more ancient ones they have.

They would have to buy them from a thrid party if SAA is to avoid US sanctions.

Anytime a thread comes up about an airline retiring any wide body type on a.net there’s always somebody who pipes up with “Iran could do with that”, I’ve got nothing politically against Iran but it’s getting boring.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:08 pm

AirBoat wrote:
Lufthansa still flies A340-600 to cape town.


-600 to MUC and -300 to FRA. Edelweiss also grace us here in CPT with their -300 on the ZRH service

Given SA Govt is wobbling about the promised next ZAR2bn tranche, again just to keep the beast afloat, seems if you are really in the market for a very used ex-SAA -300 or -600, you might as wait for the receivers auction sale.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:17 pm

The only way these A340's leave the SAA fleet without a bankruptcy is if Airbus takes them back in trade for an A330neo or A350 order.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:30 pm

Someone83 wrote:
There is anyway quite a few A350s stored that SAA can get their hand on. If they get the money

Uh who was stored A350's their brand new aircraft
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:08 pm

SR380 wrote:
Air Zim is already in the process of Introducing B777 bought from MH. So this is a no go.

As for the A340 I'm wondering why no aircraft have been converted to freighters, such as the DC10 or MD11?


Insufficient feedstock. The DC-10 and MD-11 were designed as freighters from the get-go or very soon after. The first MD-11 had passenger windows for certification, but already had the side cargo doors.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:18 pm

dstblj52 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
There is anyway quite a few A350s stored that SAA can get their hand on. If they get the money

Uh who was stored A350's their brand new aircraft


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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:49 pm

dstblj52 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
There is anyway quite a few A350s stored that SAA can get their hand on. If they get the money

Uh who was stored A350's their brand new aircraft


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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:58 pm

I can't imagine a new life for them, but the SA A346 is one of my favorite livery/aircraft combos. Super-elegant to my eye. But the A350 will look pretty sweet too.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:43 pm

Theses 9x A340s have effectively been replaced by 5x A330-300s and the 4x newly arrived A350s. It's a one-for-one replacement. The reason that SAA kept them for a while (alongside the A330-300s) was to cover for a series of heavy maintenance checks on the A330-200s and remaining leased A340s. As they completed maintenance several A340s were stored in anticipation of this sale.

There is no anticipation at SAA that a buyer will intend to fly them. About three of the nine are not even in flying condition. These are going straight to the scrapheap. The engines and APUs will have decent value.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:56 pm

Also, the current schedule requires about 15 widebody aircraft (17 if you include the suspended JNB-HKG route). They have 11x A330s, 17x A340s (although some are stored) and now 4x A350s. Even with the sale of these 9, there is still sufficient capacity to operate the schedule.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:06 pm

cedarjet wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?

Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?

Which countries?

Democratic Republic of Congo has a 707-100B in Dreamliner livery.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:04 am

SR380 wrote:
Air Zim is already in the process of Introducing B777 bought from MH.

They have been in the "process" for years. Don't hold your breath.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:49 am

andz wrote:
I was at Airways Park about an hour ago and they are holding a lunchtime prayer vigil in the atrium to pray for the airline's future.

Sounds like a good business plan
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:06 am

andz wrote:
I was at Airways Park about an hour ago and they are holding a lunchtime prayer vigil in the atrium to pray for the airline's future.


It can't hurt! Besides, if something good happens, the airline will benefit & those praying for SAA will have their faith strengthened!
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:07 am

andz wrote:
I was at Airways Park about an hour ago and they are holding a lunchtime prayer vigil in the atrium to pray for the airline's future.

They probably were praying for a foreign angel to bail them out.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:08 am

behramjee wrote:
The only carrier that I can for see being interested in purchasing these birds would be Portugal's Hi Fly.

I doubt it. They are replacing their A340’s with A330 Neo’s and in a recent interview the CEO stated that he was looking into acquiring some A350’s.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:30 pm

Anyone want to start an Anet pool to buy one up. I think if enough of us chipped in we might just have a competitive offer. :lol:
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:39 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
cedarjet wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Some African countries still use 707s to transport high ranking government officials. Could these executive jets be replaced by A340-300s?

Does the A340-600 burn less fuel than the 707?

Which countries?

Democratic Republic of Congo has a 707-100B in Dreamliner livery.

I mean, it is only 1, but you are correct. 9Q-CLK is still listed as active
https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/Re ... CLK/489715
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:52 pm

jetjack74 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
cedarjet wrote:
Which countries?

Democratic Republic of Congo has a 707-100B in Dreamliner livery.

I mean, it is only 1, but you are correct. 9Q-CLK is still listed as active
https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/Re ... CLK/489715


When was the last time it flew? I haven't seen a new photo uploaded since 2015.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:38 am

jetjack74 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
cedarjet wrote:
Which countries?

Democratic Republic of Congo has a 707-100B in Dreamliner livery.

I mean, it is only 1, but you are correct. 9Q-CLK is still listed as active
https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/Re ... CLK/489715

It is actually a special version of the 707 called the 707-138B. Apparently it was launched at Qantas’ request. It has a shorter fuselage and even longer range than a regular 707-100B, a true 1950s hot rod.
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:41 am

707? Pah! That's nothing. We had a DC-6 here in Windhoek until 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d97xBH9fSFY

http://www.dc-6.co.za/45564.htm
 
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:00 am

og god, SAA's problem is not the A340, its problem is it has long been a political play thing
and place to stick ppl loyal to the government as 'rewards' for the efforts who know bugger
all about aviation. Kind of like MAS and Aerolineas.

Look at the current situation. The A330 is fitted with a modern business class yet
the A350s they brought in don't have it.

Then look at schedule. BA easily maintains double daily 744 frequency LHR CPT.
SAA doesn't even bother fly the route though it could. And before anyone starts
harping on about feed, how many star alliance carriers fly to LHR? They even have
their own terminal.

A343s cost about the same as a 772 to operate. Yes there's more efficient options
these days. BUT SA needs to get back to its history if it wants to survive long haul.
No half arsed products etc. It will have serious trouble raising money as the South
African governments credit rating is shot, and SA business ppl often use other
alternatives for long haul. Not how you make money.

Yes nice lounges and good domestic frequency but its not exactly working for them.
Cash in on a few markets. Capetown to Sydney for a start, beat QF to the market.
Definitely CPT back to LON no matter which airport it is.
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:36 am

blacksoviet wrote:
It is actually a special version of the 707 called the 707-138B. Apparently it was launched at Qantas’ request. It has a shorter fuselage and even longer range than a regular 707-100B, a true 1950s hot rod.


In actual fact, the Boeing 707-138 is the original Boeing 707 offered to airlines. Boeing stretched it for the other airlines, which ruined the economics for Qantas, so they eventually agreed to give Qantas their own version. Full story of that is here - http://www.adastron.com/707/qantas/707-development.htm (that web site has a ton of fascinating information about the QF 707s)
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:55 am

KFTG wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Air Zim is already in the process of Introducing B777 bought from MH.

They have been in the "process" for years. Don't hold your breath.

Two of them have left SZB recently. So it happened... Whether cash was exchanged, is another matter altogether. Hahahaha!
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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:50 pm

Lufthansa wrote:
og god, SAA's problem is not the A340, its problem is it has long been a political play thing
and place to stick ppl loyal to the government as 'rewards' for the efforts who know bugger
all about aviation. Kind of like MAS and Aerolineas.

Look at the current situation. The A330 is fitted with a modern business class yet
the A350s they brought in don't have it.

Then look at schedule. BA easily maintains double daily 744 frequency LHR CPT.
SAA doesn't even bother fly the route though it could. And before anyone starts
harping on about feed, how many star alliance carriers fly to LHR? They even have
their own terminal.

A343s cost about the same as a 772 to operate. Yes there's more efficient options
these days. BUT SA needs to get back to its history if it wants to survive long haul.
No half arsed products etc. It will have serious trouble raising money as the South
African governments credit rating is shot, and SA business ppl often use other
alternatives for long haul. Not how you make money.

Yes nice lounges and good domestic frequency but its not exactly working for them.
Cash in on a few markets. Capetown to Sydney for a start, beat QF to the market.
Definitely CPT back to LON no matter which airport it is.
I'll shut up I'll just end up offending someone.


I completely agree with you regarding the cause of SAA's failure but for the rest of your comment......

1. LHR-CPT. It is a route that relies heavily (not exclusively) on originating pax from London and nearby cities, VS can't even make it work.
2. Star Alliance has feed to LHR but SAA already flies to FRA and MUC daily (from JNB) hence eliminating LH group completely as feed. United and Air Canada
codeshare with SAA on the routes from MUC and FRA (besides the other star alliance carriers). CPT is sufficiently covered by UA covering North America, LH
group covering Europe and SQ covering Asian feed.
2. SAA is profitable on their domestic ops, it is working for them.
3. CPT-SYD on SAA NO NEVER. JNB, SAA's hub, can't even make SYD work.

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Re: SAA trying to sell 9 A340s

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:06 pm

You guys with your snarky comments about praying don't seem to realise that the average employee at SAA is totally helpless in the current situation and has no control over what is happening at the airline. This includes my wife who completed 41 years with SAA at the beginning of December. They are the victims of the years of mismanagement and corruption that has led to the current predicament. So they turn to the only thing that many of them rely on in times of crisis.

This financial disaster is not new either, when I was clearing out my late father's study I found a newspaper special report on SAA from right about the time that they introduced the first 747-400 and the headline was "Take-off for new plan to make airline pay its way" dated 25 October 1982.

On another note, the first A350 JNB-JFK departs this evening.
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