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Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:05 am

Not much information yet but according to reports a "Large tanker" has been lost in southern NSW. Helicopters currently searching.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/20 ... eport.html
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:08 am

 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 am

Sad. It is risky fighting fires. My thoughts go out to the families.
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:55 am

lightsaber wrote:
Sad. It is risky fighting fires. My thoughts go out to the families.


Unfortunately at least the 3rd firefighting aircraft crash in a year in Australia. Firefighting is dangerous work whether on the ground or in the air
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:07 am

Three crew fatalities confirmed regrettably. All three crew were US citizens. Coulson C130 N134CG
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... aro-region
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:46 am

Wonder if wings seperated like the H&P C-130 in Calif years ago?
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Very sad indeed, I believe this to be the one I was very kindly able to visit onboard with the team who gave me a guided tour onboard that and the DC10 when it was based at San Bernardino. They were very welcoming to me as a plane spotter and aviation enthusiast from the ither side of the world and I thanked them very much for their heroic service. I sincerely hope it wasn't those guys, but I do know that if they have been taken, they died doing what they loved. Their passion for their work shone through.
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:54 pm

Reminds me of the 1989 movie Always
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:17 am

I know the owner of this aircraft very well, my thoughts and prayers are with the families of the crew. It is a terrible tragedy when a firefighter dies in the line of duty, that is something I will never get used to and something that never becomes less sad. This crew was fighting the fire from above and providing support to their coworkers on the ground to make sure everybody was safe and they lost their life trying to protect others. I hope everyone recognizes This Crew as the heroes they are and recognizes that they are also firefighters. May we never forget these firefighters who gave it all in the line of duty and keep those who do this every single day not far from our thoughts.

God bless this crew and God bless the firefighters
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:41 am

Video of this accident has been put up on YouTube. Looks like the aircraft is structurally fine throughout the drop sequence, then enters a smoke cloud, then shortly after arrives at the ground.

https://youtu.be/84Dhkw2PwuE

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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:40 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
Video of this accident has been put up on YouTube. Looks like the aircraft is structurally fine throughout the drop sequence, then enters a smoke cloud, then shortly after arrives at the ground.

https://youtu.be/84Dhkw2PwuE

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Strange. You cannot see what happened after the aircraft enters the smoke cloud. Would be good to know what the man saw who shot that video. Although, he maybe didn’t see much either.
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:35 pm

N14AZ wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Video of this accident has been put up on YouTube. Looks like the aircraft is structurally fine throughout the drop sequence, then enters a smoke cloud, then shortly after arrives at the ground.

https://youtu.be/84Dhkw2PwuE

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Strange. You cannot see what happened after the aircraft enters the smoke cloud. Would be good to know what the man saw who shot that video. Although, he maybe didn’t see much either.


Possibly a whiteout, they have dropped the extinguishing agent, hove flown in the cloud, lost the skyline and orientation and were just not aware, they were on the way to the ground. If the crew expected, that the smoke cloud is thin...and missed to check the gyro horizon right in time...

Has the C130 had a black box on board?
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:24 pm

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01- ... fmredir=sm

The crew were posthumously recognised with an RFS Commissioner's Commendation in a ceremony attended by the families of two of the victims.

That article also says that ATSB have the CVR and expect to release a preliminary report in a month.
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:45 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-30/nsw-bushfire-air-tanker-crash-victims-honoured-at-memorial-serv/11913924?pfmredir=sm

The crew were posthumously recognised with an RFS Commissioner's Commendation in a ceremony attended by the families of two of the victims.

That article also says that ATSB have the CVR and expect to release a preliminary report in a month.


I'm so glad that their heroism has been recognised. It does make me a little sad that this accident has so 'flown under the radar' relative to the recent crash of a multi-millionaire going about his daily helicopter commute.

Thank you for fighting our fires Coulson! We are eternally grateful for you contributing to the effort and for the losses you have suffered doing so.
 
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Re: Tanker fighting Australian bushfires crashes

Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:51 pm

Pure speculation on my part as I know nothing of flying in the firefighting role.

It appears that he flew into a smoke cloud. Would it not be substantially hotter in this airmass? If it is, desity is much less . . . potential for a stall in less dense air mass?
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