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Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E
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A Scoot flight, being TR188 operating SIN-HGH on 24 Jan has been revealed as having 10 passengers out of 335 being diagnosed with Coronavirus. DR6562 has also been reveal as having 5 passengers diagnosed on a flight on the 18 Jan from HET-SHE

https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/statu ... 34624?s=20
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FYI, the pax on TR188 consisted of a sizeable number from Wuhan who were stranded in SIN due to WUH airport closure.
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:54 am

A QR 748F has just departed DOH for PVG with medical supplies onboard

https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/12 ... 17696?s=20
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qf789 wrote:
A QR 748F has just departed DOH for PVG with medical supplies onboard

https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/12 ... 17696?s=20


:highfive: an applause to our Qatari friends.
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:36 am

Waterbomber2 wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
Waterbomber2 wrote:

I wonder how the yield management strategy will play out. Less demand normally translates into lower yields, but depending on how bad it gets, airlines may raise fares to milk those passengers who have sufficient incentive to fly despite a risk to their health (if any).
In China, this is what's happening for now, capacity is down and fares seem to be up, not down.

Will airlines maintain frequencies with smaller and smaller aircraft or park and store their high lease cost aircraft (B787/A350/B777/A320neo), suspend lease payments and consolidate flights onto lower capital cost aircraft? It makes sense to operate fuel guzzlers (low oil prices) and maintenance intensive aircraft now (to keep the MX staff busy), and spare the newer aircraft until things start getting better.


Going back to my original question - are intra-EU and NA-EU flights currently showing a noticeable decline from last year?

If so, I'm ready for 2021 already :faint:

BTW - regarding the fleet impact, this is why I say watch the Big 2 Japanese 767 fleets. Both are fleets are young (most built 2000-2013), but the 1982 EIS means they will be retired before any 30 year old A320's or 23 year old 777's. What a waste... I hope that doctor who tried to raise the alarm will at least be Time's Man of the Year.


My former colleagues are saying that the "business on the books" is already showing a decline for the summer according to some managers.
It's not clear how much of it is from declining bookings intra-EU and how much from loss of business EU-Asia, but it seems to go beyond just pax connecting on Asian flights.
We have to remember that European airlines als act as codeshare partners for many Asian airlines, so many seats are occupied with connecting passengers.
Unfortunately, I can't post actual numbers as it's confidential, plus only management staff are supposed to have access to it so I can't verify them myself.
It looks like managements are preparing the unions for a temporary downsizing.

I'm myself holding off booking a TATL itinerary for May/June.
In 3-4 months, a lot can happen.


I guess most of people (and businesses) are holding their breath about expenses not needed. I saw a graphs that noone purchased a real estate in china even after the end of the forced vacation. I believe people in Europe as well are waiting for the stabilizing situation before purchasing a travel (and maybe not getting refund) since nobody knows if the virus will spread, if the economy will suffer and will lose the job. if the situation will improve (like they say...) then people might shave off the scare and start booking again.
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:43 am

qf789 wrote:
Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E


Singapore has the 2nd most Coronavirus cases (40 ppl currently).
All 7 new coronavirus cases in Singapore have no recent travel history to China.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.
 
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flights are down 25,000 per week compared to 2 weeks ago

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/cor ... t-quarter/
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:15 pm

acomp wrote:
I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.


Methinks that ship has already sailed and disappeared over the horizon!
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:46 pm

acomp wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E


Singapore has the 2nd most Coronavirus cases (40 ppl currently).
All 7 new coronavirus cases in Singapore have no recent travel history to China.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.


Read elsewhere in Airliners.Net around 70 parties decided to cancel their show in Singapore Air Show
 
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Supply chains are going to get cut off to the us and other areas better stock up on medicine it's made in china
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:14 pm

acomp wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E


Singapore has the 2nd most Coronavirus cases (40 ppl currently).
All 7 new coronavirus cases in Singapore have no recent travel history to China.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.


I personally do wonder whether airlines will start reducing flights to/from Singapore also.

They're right now #2 in terms of confirmed cases just behind mainland PRC, once you exclude the 60+ cases on Diamond Princess from Japan's number. Meanwhile, airlines are cancelling flights to/from HK even though the number of cases there is only ~30. Oh, and this is with Singapore already not allowing tourists and many visitors from mainland China.

qf789 wrote:
flights are down 25,000 per week compared to 2 weeks ago

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/cor ... t-quarter/


Greta will be happy. :duck: :duck:
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:20 pm

acomp wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E


Singapore has the 2nd most Coronavirus cases (40 ppl currently).
All 7 new coronavirus cases in Singapore have no recent travel history to China.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.


Just an fyi, Japan has more cases than Singapore with the cruise ship Diamond Princess being quarantined in Yokohama, which now has 70 cases confirmed.
 
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The Brazilian repatriation flights are back. Photo at Anapolis air base.

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Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:16 pm

This may warrant a thread of its own........ What are CX's future fleet plans.

Also credit to them for their promptness in network adjustment and communication of the same.
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:39 pm

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This may warrant a thread of its own........ What are CX's future fleet plans.

Also credit to them for their promptness in network adjustment and communication of the same.


They probably won't be the only carrier changing their fleet plans :cry:
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:22 pm

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Just an fyi, Japan has more cases than Singapore with the cruise ship Diamond Princess being quarantined in Yokohama, which now has 70 cases confirmed.


The cases on Diamond Princess are NOT counted towards Japan per WHO.

Also keep in mind 10 cases in Japan are from people they evacuated from Wuhan.

Anyway, I came across this...
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-08feb20/

We're definitely going back in time with foreign carrier operating tag-ons in the US. But basically CA is operating 7 flights/wk to/from US and that's it :white:

Meanwhile, I seriously wonder how much money Air Macau (NX) will need as a bailout this time around:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... perations/

That's 90% cancellation rate :cry2:
 
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:46 pm

When and how will airlines make decision about flight to Chinese hubs other than Wuhan beyond March and is it likely that the suspension will be continued? It appears that relatively small numbers of new cases are now being reported in Shanghai and Beijing. I understand the CNY return-to-work crowd could change the picture. I am asking because family members originally had plan to visit Europe via PVG/PEK in mid April but are now in limbo.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:12 am

Not sure if this is mentioned, Royal Brunei sent their A320-232ceo V8-RBX to evacuate two Bruneians caught up in Wuhan on 7th Februrary 2020. The aircraft was disinfected and remained out of service for two days before retunring to service on 9th Feb 2020, doing a regional run to Surabaya. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/v8-rbx

Both individuals are now at Isolation Centre for obvservation. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regiona ... -evacuated
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:16 am

ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
acomp wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Over 70 exhibitors have pulled out of the Singapore Air Show due to Coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/singapo ... SL4N2A902E


Singapore has the 2nd most Coronavirus cases (40 ppl currently).
All 7 new coronavirus cases in Singapore have no recent travel history to China.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

I hope this situation won't affect the Singapore Air Show and air travel in Singapore.


Just an fyi, Japan has more cases than Singapore with the cruise ship Diamond Princess being quarantined in Yokohama, which now has 70 cases confirmed.

Singapore now has 43 cases as of Sunday evening. Currently the local are panic buying, stocking up essentials even though the government is trying to ally their fear. Being a small nation with 760sq m. land area, the illness does spread fast. If they are to cancel the airshow, they would need to pay compensation. I was wondering if they can use force majuere as a reason to cancel?
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:22 am

qf789 wrote:
A QR 748F has just departed DOH for PVG with medical supplies onboard

https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/12 ... 17696?s=20

Kudos to Qatar Government.

Malaysia has also sent 2.4 tonnes of medical supplies ranging from face masks and gloves to goggles donated by the public in an effort to help Wuhan city in China battling against the novel coronavirus. The first two batches arrived on AirAsia evacuation flight on AK8264 3th Feb and on MH386 4th Feb KUL-PVG.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia ... na/1834432

Really hope the viral infection will blow over soon.
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zeke wrote:
zakuivcustom wrote:
The cases on Diamond Princess are NOT counted towards Japan per WHO.


That is a bit of a fiddle as many of the confirmed cases have been taken to hospital in Yokohoma.


WHO calls it "International Conveyance". The ship is register in UK, though, and one can argue that the outbreak occur over international water.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 6f80d1b9_4 (See p.4)

But either way, Japanese will be the one that have to deal with those sick pax.

juliuswong wrote:
qf789 wrote:
A QR 748F has just departed DOH for PVG with medical supplies onboard

https://twitter.com/AlexInAir/status/12 ... 17696?s=20

Kudos to Qatar Government.

Malaysia has also sent 2.4 tonnes of medical supplies ranging from face masks and gloves to goggles donated by the public in an effort to help Wuhan city in China battling against the novel coronavirus. The first two batches arrived on AirAsia evacuation flight on AK8264 3th Feb and on MH386 4th Feb KUL-PVG.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia ... na/1834432

Really hope the viral infection will blow over soon.


Kudos to the Qataris, indeed. Now, we can only hope that those supplies reach places where it's needed most, instead of each individual provincial gov't trying to "steal" supply from one another.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:32 am

See the relatively “new” second hand ex SQ A333 9H-TAJ sporting a new livery is in HKG today.

Is the aircraft being used for evacuation flights ?

FR24 had no results when I looked
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:29 am

zeke wrote:
See the relatively “new” second hand ex SQ A333 9H-TAJ sporting a new livery is in HKG today.

Is the aircraft being used for evacuation flights ?

FR24 had no results when I looked


FR24 still has the plane in its old registration.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-sty

Not exactly sure whose evacuation flight it is, though.

It flew from YVR to CFB Trenton to MAD then to HKG.

EDIT: Looks like juliuswong answer it...Canadian evacuation flight.
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:31 am

zeke wrote:
See the relatively “new” second hand ex SQ A333 9H-TAJ sporting a new livery is in HKG today.

Is the aircraft being used for evacuation flights ?

FR24 had no results when I looked

Coincidentally enough, I am looking at the same airframe now as we speak. The ADBS is currently tagged to 9H-STY, its original intended registration, a simple change from SQ's registration 9V-STY. It was re-registered as 9H-TAJ upon EIS few days ago before the first Canadians' evacuation flight, I guess it will take some time for FR24 to update.

Yes, it is in Hong Kong for second evacuation flight for Canadian. First flight pattern was CHR-HAN-WUH-YVR-MAD-HKG for past few days. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-sty
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zakuivcustom & juliuswong

Thank you, I like this new livery
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SCQ83 wrote:
Waterbomber2 wrote:
In a normal downturn scenario you would be right, but this is not a normal downturn scenario.
Everyone said that the Great Recession was the worst since the Great Depression.
This may shape up to be much worse than both combined.
Automakers Honda, Hyundai, Toyota are keeping factories closed, and not only in China. Beijing and Shanghai are ghost cities.


If China crashes, clearly the rest of the world will crash. Many Western companies, from Apple to Louis Vuitton or from Mercedes Benz to any major American university :) rely massively in the Chinese market. It will not only have an impact on international traffic from China but also on the world economy and consequently on air demand everywhere.


Exactly what we should be worried about! The west is far to reliant on China for absolutely everything! (which is our own greedy fault I guess) This scenario makes the subject of so called "climate change" a walk in the park!
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:11 am

This morning, 10-Feb, Hanoi time, VN-A604, an A321, operated as VN68, brought 30 Vietnamese from Wuhan to Van Don (VDO) where they will be quarantined for two weeks.
It brought $500,000 worth of medical supply to Wuhan in the preceding leg.
It was decided that VDO is the only airport for receiving Vietnamese needing quarantine.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:40 am

A short run down of nation deploying airframe to rescue their citizens:
Canada- HiFly A330-343E 9H-STY
Brunei- Royal Brunei A320-232ceo V8-RBX
Malaysia- AirAsia A320-251neo 9M-RAM
UK and Ireland- Wamos B747-4H6 EC-KXN & Royal Air Force Boeing C-17 Globmaster III ZZ176
France- HiFly A380-841 9H-MIP
Mongolia- MIAT Mongolian Airlines B737-8AL JU-1088
United States of America- Kalitta Air B747-4B5F N705CK
Australia- Qantas B747-438ER VH-OEF
New Zealand- Air New Zealand B777-219ER ZK-OKE
India- Air India B747-437 VT-ESP & VT-EVA
Vietnam- A321-231 VN-A604
Germany- A310-304 10+23
Singapore- Scoot B787-9 9V-OJH & 9V-SJI
Indonesia- Lion Air A330-343E PK-LDY
Japan - All Nippon Airways B767-381ER JA607A
Sri Lanka- Sri Lankan A330-243 4R-ALS
South Korea- Korean Air B747-4B5 HL7461
Jordan- Royal Jordanian B787-8 JY-BAE
Turkey- Turkey Air Force A400M I5-005I
Bangladesh- Biman Bangladesh B777-3E9ER S2-AHM
Algeria & Libya- Air Algerie A330-203 7T-VJC
Morocco- Royal Air Maroc B787-8 CN-RGT
Egypt- Air Leisure A330-243 SU-ALB
Uzbekistan- Uzbekistan Airways Boeing 767-3P6ER UK67008
Thailand- Thai AirAsia A320-251neo HS-BBX
Saudi Arabia- Unknown

Source: New Agencies and SamChui.com
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Flew from the US to ICN last night on KE. Overall everything seemed pretty normal on the US side other than a significant number of people in the international terminal wearing masks. They did ask at check in if you had been to China in the last two weeks. All KE employees (gate + flight crew) wore masks 100% of the time before and during the flight and i'd say 80% of the people on the plane had on masks and a few also had gloves. Observed a few people seeming to go a little overboard.. not letting their teenage children touch anything on the plane (seat, tray, food served to them, etc.) with their bare hands, etc. Still a decent load factor but some empty seats. Arrival (early AM) into ICN was completely normal, no extra screening or questions, just the normal thermal cams they always have set up and only one personal observing. There did seem to be significantly less people than I normal see at those early AM arrivals but that's really hard to say as it just depends on the flight timing. So a little different than my usual trip over but I felt completely safe the entire time as people were being overly cautious and protective (and there is nothing wrong with that, certainly reduced the risk of getting a common cold from someone on the plane.)
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A short run down of nation deploying airframe to resuce its citizens:
...
India- Air India B747-437 VT-ESP & VT-EVA
...
Source: New Agencies and SamChui.com


It was VT-EVB.
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:13 pm

China Southern has made a lot of changes for the first half of NS20 as well

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-10feb20/
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juliuswong wrote:
A short run down of nation deploying airframe to rescue their citizens:
Canada- HiFly A330-343E 9H-STY
Brunei- Royal Brunei A320-232ceo V8-RBX
Malaysia- AirAsia A320-251neo 9M-RAM
UK and Ireland- Wamos B747-4H6 EC-KXN & Royal Air Force Boeing C-17 Globmaster III ZZ176
France- HiFly A380-841 9H-MIP
Mongolia- MIAT Mongolian Airlines B737-8AL JU-1088
United States of America- Kalitta Air B747-4B5F N705CK
Australia- Qantas B747-438ER VH-OEF
New Zealand- Air New Zealand B777-219ER ZK-OKE
India- Air India B747-437 VT-ESP & VT-EVA
Vietnam- A321-231 VN-A604
Germany- A310-304 10+23
Singapore- Scoot B787-9 9V-OJH & 9V-SJI
Indonesia- Lion Air A330-343E PK-LDY
Japan - All Nippon Airways B767-381ER JA607A
Sri Lanka- Sri Lankan A330-243 4R-ALS
South Korea- Korean Air B747-4B5 HL7461
Jordan- Royal Jordanian B787-8 JY-BAE
Turkey- Turkey Air Force A400M I5-005I
Bangladesh- Biman Bangladesh B777-3E9ER S2-AHM
Algeria & Libya- Air Algerie A330-203 7T-VJC
Morocco- Royal Air Maroc B787-8 CN-RGT
Egypt- Air Leisure A330-243 SU-ALB
Uzbekistan- Uzbekistan Airways Boeing 767-3P6ER UK67008
Thailand- Thai AirAsia A320-251neo HS-BBX
Saudi Arabia- Unknown

Source: New Agencies and SamChui.com


Also Italy had an evacuation flight done with a KC-767 of the Aeronautica Militare
https://www.thelocal.it/20200203/coronavirus-italians-evacuated-from-china-quarantined-rome
 
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:15 pm

Here in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam people seem to be very careful right now. Thermal cams are installed now as well in the domestic terminal. Couple of (domestic) flights were delayed by two to three hours for disinfection of the aircraft due to passengers that were suspected to have the virus (I think none of the suspect cases were actually confirmed afterwards). I was asked to return to stand for disinfection on one of my flights after lining up for takeoff - before we arrived on stand it was determined that it was "false alarm" and we were allowed to commence our flight without disinfection. People seem to be really worried, even though there are not many confirmed cases in Vietnam for now.
 
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I want to know how to you a plane won't be contaminated afterwards. Could it spread to new people after waiting for a period of time.
 
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So which will be the airports in Europe/North America most affected by the cancellations?

In Europe, CDG and FRA must be on top. In NA, LAX, SFO and YVR?
 
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BA extends flight suspension to China until April.

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... us-update/
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https://www.rappler.com/nation/251456-d ... oronavirus
The Philippines decided to ban all travel from Taiwan despite it have relatively few case, claim reason being World Health Organization recognize Taiwan as part of China, and that the Philippines government respect China's One China Policy
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:36 am

9H-STY for HiFly is currently en route from Wuhan to Vancouver, seems to be making its second evacuation flight.
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:55 am

Flow2706 wrote:
Here in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam people seem to be very careful right now. Thermal cams are installed now as well in the domestic terminal. Couple of (domestic) flights were delayed by two to three hours for disinfection of the aircraft due to passengers that were suspected to have the virus (I think none of the suspect cases were actually confirmed afterwards). I was asked to return to stand for disinfection on one of my flights after lining up for takeoff - before we arrived on stand it was determined that it was "false alarm" and we were allowed to commence our flight without disinfection. People seem to be really worried, even though there are not many confirmed cases in Vietnam for now.


So many VietJet flights are delayed that I wonder if that's really due to the situation or just their general standard of operations. When I was there, instead of writing "delayed" on the board they kept changing the flight time, which made it difficult to find.
 
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:55 am

peterinlisbon wrote:
Flow2706 wrote:
Here in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam people seem to be very careful right now. Thermal cams are installed now as well in the domestic terminal. Couple of (domestic) flights were delayed by two to three hours for disinfection of the aircraft due to passengers that were suspected to have the virus (I think none of the suspect cases were actually confirmed afterwards). I was asked to return to stand for disinfection on one of my flights after lining up for takeoff - before we arrived on stand it was determined that it was "false alarm" and we were allowed to commence our flight without disinfection. People seem to be really worried, even though there are not many confirmed cases in Vietnam for now.


So many VietJet flights are delayed that I wonder if that's really due to the situation or just their general standard of operations. When I was there, instead of writing "delayed" on the board they kept changing the flight time, which made it difficult to find.

It's normal if you see VJ flights are delayed. Vj delays everytime, that's the reason why VJ has a nickname in Vietnam: "Sorry airlines". The corona is just a good reason for Vj
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:31 am

gdavis003 wrote:
9H-STY for HiFly is currently en route from Wuhan to Vancouver, seems to be making its second evacuation flight.


Actual registration is 9H-TAJ, we talked about it a few posts up. FR24 still has it under its old registration.
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:48 am

I arrived in SFO last night. The immigration official asked me if I'd been to China in the last two weeks but he didn't check my stamps.

Holy hell that is the slowest immigration facility I've ever used. I went to SFO's website and filled out a complaint form. They replied and blamed the wait time on the virus, which is ludicrous because it should be shorter without any flights from China arriving.
 
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:38 pm

ShanghaiNoon wrote:
I arrived in SFO last night. The immigration official asked me if I'd been to China in the last two weeks but he didn't check my stamps.

Holy hell that is the slowest immigration facility I've ever used. I went to SFO's website and filled out a complaint form. They replied and blamed the wait time on the virus, which is ludicrous because it should be shorter without any flights from China arriving.


Travelers who visited China in the last 14 days can still arrive at US airports even without nonstop flights.
SFO and CDC are doing their job perfectly.
 
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:21 pm

acomp wrote:
ShanghaiNoon wrote:
I arrived in SFO last night. The immigration official asked me if I'd been to China in the last two weeks but he didn't check my stamps.

Holy hell that is the slowest immigration facility I've ever used. I went to SFO's website and filled out a complaint form. They replied and blamed the wait time on the virus, which is ludicrous because it should be shorter without any flights from China arriving.


Travelers who visited China in the last 14 days can still arrive at US airports even without nonstop flights.
SFO and CDC are doing their job perfectly.



I'm not American, so no, I wouldn't have been allowed. SFO is doing its job terribly. It's the slowest immigration falicity I've ever used. This is a really bad first impression for the country.
 
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:48 pm

AA extends China and HKG suspensions until end of April.

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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:43 pm

Air Canada has suspended YYZ-HKG March 1-27, 2020 citing demand.

https://www.aircanada.com/us/en/aco/hom ... ravel.html

I was supposed to return on that leg March 11. When calling the Air Canada reservations line it now just has a recording that call volumes are too high to place people on hold.
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:19 am

NWAA330 wrote:
Air Canada has suspended YYZ-HKG March 1-27, 2020 citing demand.

https://www.aircanada.com/us/en/aco/hom ... ravel.html

I was supposed to return on that leg March 11. When calling the Air Canada reservations line it now just has a recording that call volumes are too high to place people on hold.


Man...sooner or later CX will be the only airlines out of HKG that fly to N. America...or anywhere.

Lucky that my relatives got ticket out of HKG to US via YYZ next week instead of March.

When I was selecting seats, though, the flight was only 50% filled at most. Return ticket on April shows a completely empty rear third of a plane in Y. :white:
 
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:44 am

As part of its 2019 earnings release today, Jeju Air announced it would temporarily ground 20 of 45 aircraft.

Besides having suspended 17 routes to China, the carrier is seeing reduced travel demand on routes to SE Asia and Japan as result of the Korean government having issued travel warnings.
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Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:18 am

juliuswong wrote:
A short run down of nation deploying airframe to rescue their citizens:
France- HiFly A380-841 9H-MIP

France operated a hub-and-spoke rescue flight of sort. About half the A380 passengers were French citizens, the other evacuees came from several EU and African countries. After landing in Istres, non-French citizens were directed to other aircraft waiting to take them to points North and South. Some had quite a trip. For instance Danes on the A380 flew next to a military base in Belgium, where they were picked up by a third aircraft, chartered by the Danish government. Dutch evacuees took a bus from the same Belgian military base to the Netherlands.

Also, I read multiple news reports stating that the HiFly A380 was the second French rescue flight, however I have not able to find details about the first, other than it landed at the same Istres military airport on January 31st.
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