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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:19 pm

Thanks to everyone at QF for their efforts to bring their fellow australian’s home (via XCH). Always make me proud to be Australian to see the big red kangaroo coming to people’s rescue.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:23 pm

On Friday 24th of Jan, I flew from BNE and was doing a bit of plane watching from the QF lounge (Domestic). There was a QantasLink Q400 being refueled which started spewing fuel from the vent on the right hand wing. Well forward of the plane I see someone running back to the plane from a baggage truck which I presume they were having a chat with. I really wish I could estimate how much fuel was on the ground but I can safely say it was spraying out for about 10 seconds before it was stopped.

Surely this can’t be a regular occurrence?

Interestingly, just before my flight was to depart, the flight crew announced our push back and engine start would be delayed by 10 minutes due to an “oil spill” on a nearby aircraft. And yes, the Q400 was the plane next to us.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:44 am

China Eastern changes

Kunming – Sydney 24FEB20 – 28MAR20 3 weekly schedule removed
Shanghai Pu Dong – Brisbane 28FEB20 – 28MAR20 Seasonal adjustment from 7 to 3 weekly moves forward one week earlier, instead of eff 05MAR20
Shanghai Pu Dong – Melbourne
12FEB20 – 16FEB20 Reduce from 18 to 14 weekly
17FEB20 – 02MAR20 Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
03MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 10 to 3 weekly
Shanghai Pu Dong – Sydney
10FEB20 – 29FEB20 Reduce from 14 to 3 weekly
01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 10 to 3 weekly


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-04feb20/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:58 am

BITRE out for November 2019

AirAsia X loads are about 15% lower than Scoot
Batik Air struggled at 50% for the month
Citilink started PER, loads 25% inbound and 30% outbound
Donghai inbound to DRW at 17%, outbound 20% think with coronavirus outbreak its lights out for this service
Emirates lagging behind compared to EY and QR
Thai AirAsia X loads still in the 50's
Both CX and QF HKG loads around 80% while VA in the 60's
VA's NZ loads seem to becoming a bit more consistent

https://www.bitre.gov.au/sites/default/ ... y_1911.pdf
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:02 am

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On Friday 24th of Jan, I flew from BNE and was doing a bit of plane watching from the QF lounge (Domestic). There was a QantasLink Q400 being refueled which started spewing fuel from the vent on the right hand wing. Well forward of the plane I see someone running back to the plane from a baggage truck which I presume they were having a chat with. I really wish I could estimate how much fuel was on the ground but I can safely say it was spraying out for about 10 seconds before it was stopped.

Surely this can’t be a regular occurrence?

Interestingly, just before my flight was to depart, the flight crew announced our push back and engine start would be delayed by 10 minutes due to an “oil spill” on a nearby aircraft. And yes, the Q400 was the plane next to us.

Rgds,
C1973


No its not a regular occurrence however it seems that your aircraft was close to where it happened so SOP where applied. With a fuel spill the fuel in shut off on the gate through an emergency button then clean up is required, fire services called to deal with the spill, do you know if this happened?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:36 am

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No its not a regular occurrence however it seems that your aircraft was close to where it happened so SOP where applied. With a fuel spill the fuel in shut off on the gate through an emergency button then clean up is required, fire services called to deal with the spill, do you know if this happened?


When we did start the push back, a fire service truck emerged from behind the plane and it was jetting water at the fuel. It looked like they were trying to force it to some point but couldn’t see where.

I think it was gate 16 where I boarded and we pushed back far around that pier past 21 before engine start.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:38 am

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BITRE out for November 2019

AirAsia X loads are about 15% lower than Scoot
Batik Air struggled at 50% for the month
Citilink started PER, loads 25% inbound and 30% outbound
Donghai inbound to DRW at 17%, outbound 20% think with coronavirus outbreak its lights out for this service
Emirates lagging behind compared to EY and QR
Thai AirAsia X loads still in the 50's
Both CX and QF HKG loads around 80% while VA in the 60's
VA's NZ loads seem to becoming a bit more consistent

https://www.bitre.gov.au/sites/default/ ... y_1911.pdf


I honestly can’t believe Donghai has lasted this long - 17% load factor is an absolute joke. Complete waste of fuel and emissions when the route consistently performs poorly with no improvement. Who the hell is going from Darwin to Shenzhen anyway? If they’re chasing Chinese connections, Cathay Dragon would be much more suitable choice as at least there would be some sort of O&D demand too to HKG.

Doesn’t surprise me Citilink is struggling too with the messiness of their launch.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:03 am

So have just done a trip back from NYC on QF12. Some random observations and questions:

1. The B789 is a nicely designed plane and a step up. The big windows are great, IFE is very good, cabin noise noticeably lower, and small things like tray table design are far more practical.
2. Accordingly, the A380 is still good but looks dated compared to the B789....
3. Are the crew pools the same for the US work? The JFK-LAX crew seemed more interested in pax than the LAX-SYD crew.
4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:15 am

qf789 wrote:
BITRE out for November 2019

AirAsia X loads are about 15% lower than Scoot
Batik Air struggled at 50% for the month
Citilink started PER, loads 25% inbound and 30% outbound
Donghai inbound to DRW at 17%, outbound 20% think with coronavirus outbreak its lights out for this service
Emirates lagging behind compared to EY and QR
Thai AirAsia X loads still in the 50's
Both CX and QF HKG loads around 80% while VA in the 60's
VA's NZ loads seem to becoming a bit more consistent

https://www.bitre.gov.au/sites/default/ ... y_1911.pdf


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:19 am

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I honestly can’t believe Donghai has lasted this long - 17% load factor is an absolute joke. Complete waste of fuel and emissions when the route consistently performs poorly with no improvement. Who the hell is going from Darwin to Shenzhen anyway? If they’re chasing Chinese connections, Cathay Dragon would be much more suitable choice as at least there would be some sort of O&D demand too to HKG.
Doesn’t surprise me Citilink is struggling too with the messiness of their launch.


Gretta... don't get so worked up about Donghai (I'm joking)! It's probably mostly HKG transit traffic and the route is NT Govt. subsidized, along with just about everything up there.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:27 am

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4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?


There is ongoing plans/discussion to remove these cards, however, I think the issue comes to declaring restricted/prohibited items - particularly quarantine. Hopefully will be gone soon enough!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:36 pm

The unusual routing of QF6032 explained.

Why Qantas made this path from Wuhan

Speaking to news.com.au, aviation expert Neil Hansford said the route was likely due to the aircraft wanting to stay within international waters airspace.

“This flight was a charter and not a scheduled flight, so instead of going Malaysia and straight over Java … following the South China Sea meant they didn’t have to get any overfly approvals,” he said.

“This path means they would’ve missed the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Malaysia and Indonesian airspace … which wouldn’t have wanted this plane to land.

“So instead, he (pilot) stayed out on international waters before coming into Australian air space. As soon as they got to Aussie airspace, they went directly to Learmonth.”


https://amp.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 51dc30230e


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:17 pm

EK413 wrote:
The unusual routing of QF6032 explained.

Why Qantas made this path from Wuhan

Speaking to news.com.au, aviation expert Neil Hansford said the route was likely due to the aircraft wanting to stay within international waters airspace.

“This flight was a charter and not a scheduled flight, so instead of going Malaysia and straight over Java … following the South China Sea meant they didn’t have to get any overfly approvals,” he said.

“This path means they would’ve missed the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Malaysia and Indonesian airspace … which wouldn’t have wanted this plane to land.

“So instead, he (pilot) stayed out on international waters before coming into Australian air space. As soon as they got to Aussie airspace, they went directly to Learmonth.”


https://amp.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 51dc30230e


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The flight did go through both Philippine and Indonesia air space

https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/12245 ... 76705?s=20
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:18 pm

Virgin A332 XFD has gone into maintenance at HKG, presume it will have WIFI done at the same time as its the last A332 without it
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Cathay Pacific is planning on reducing flights by 30% over their network in coming days. Are we likely to see Qantas and Virgin cut services to HKG?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:17 am

qf789 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
The unusual routing of QF6032 explained.

Why Qantas made this path from Wuhan

Speaking to news.com.au, aviation expert Neil Hansford said the route was likely due to the aircraft wanting to stay within international waters airspace.

“This flight was a charter and not a scheduled flight, so instead of going Malaysia and straight over Java … following the South China Sea meant they didn’t have to get any overfly approvals,” he said.

“This path means they would’ve missed the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Malaysia and Indonesian airspace … which wouldn’t have wanted this plane to land.

“So instead, he (pilot) stayed out on international waters before coming into Australian air space. As soon as they got to Aussie airspace, they went directly to Learmonth.”


https://amp.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 51dc30230e


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The flight did go through both Philippine and Indonesia air space

https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/12245 ... 76705?s=20


This certainly puts that theory to rest

Have heard there could be a 2nd humanitarian service operated to WUH.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:39 am

Fire near Canberra Airport started by sentinel beehive operation

The fire near Canberra Airport is out. The source has been revealed as an accident caused by the management of beehives.

Excerpt from the article:

"The fire, which started about 4.15pm on Wednesday, January 22, was quickly spotted by air traffic controllers, but nevertheless grew rapidly. By 5.20pm it was burning at emergency level, having crossed the Molonglo River to threaten residents in Beard and Oaks Estate. The next morning a tree at the old Duntroon dairy farm blew on to power lines, ignited a second fire in the Pialligo area, which merged with the redwood forest fire to become the Beard fire. It was finally extinguished on Thursday evening this week, after eight days.

The hives are part of a network near airports and sea ports around the country that provide an early warning system of bee pests at entry points to Australia. Hives are tested every two months for pests including varroa mites, according to online material. The early warning system also includes "catch boxes" to attract any exotic bees that have made their way into the country. The bees are believed to have perished with the hive."

Source: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... operation/
 
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:50 am

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4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?


There is ongoing plans/discussion to remove these cards, however, I think the issue comes to declaring restricted/prohibited items - particularly quarantine. Hopefully will be gone soon enough!


Yeah i dont see how it cant be done through say the Qantas App or any other airlines app. Leave the paper forms there for people that dont have the desire to do so, but if it is lodged through the app on arrival, it could be coded to the little customs ticket and you could pass on through with one less form.
 
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:14 am

Sichuan Australian changes

Chengdu – Melbourne 07FEB20 – 28MAR20 2 weekly service removed (3U continues to operate 1-stop via Guiyang, 2 weekly)
Chongqing – Sydney11FEB20 – 28MAR20 2 weekly service removed

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-05feb20/
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:24 am

China Eastern has closed bookings for BNE for entire NS20 season

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... s-in-ns20/
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:25 am

qf2220 wrote:
So have just done a trip back from NYC on QF12. Some random observations and questions:

1. The B789 is a nicely designed plane and a step up. The big windows are great, IFE is very good, cabin noise noticeably lower, and small things like tray table design are far more practical.
2. Accordingly, the A380 is still good but looks dated compared to the B789....


Interesting. Not sure when I get to sample a 787 for comparison. I’ve only recently come back from a week in New Caledonia and when I booked through Qantas I intentionally selected SYD-NOU flown by Aircalin on the A339neo. It certainly is a fairly quiet plane.

I’m off to Phuket and Singapore at the end of the month and I come back via QF2. Not sure what A380 it’ll be but I’m hopeful it’s one that’s been refurbed as the J seats are pretty much the same as the 789.

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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:26 am

qf2220 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?


There is ongoing plans/discussion to remove these cards, however, I think the issue comes to declaring restricted/prohibited items - particularly quarantine. Hopefully will be gone soon enough!


Yeah i dont see how it cant be done through say the Qantas App or any other airlines app. Leave the paper forms there for people that dont have the desire to do so, but if it is lodged through the app on arrival, it could be coded to the little customs ticket and you could pass on through with one less form.


The US do it via the arrivals kiosks. Don’t the E kiosks here also ask the same questions?
 
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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:37 am

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Yeah i dont see how it cant be done through say the Qantas App or any other airlines app. Leave the paper forms there for people that dont have the desire to do so, but if it is lodged through the app on arrival, it could be coded to the little customs ticket and you could pass on through with one less form.


I don’t think it could ever be included as part of an app tied to a particular airline as border security and customs is controlled by the federal government. Whilst the Gov could make a phone app for it, I think that the problem is that if you’re on a long haul flight and the app is updated during that time, it may not be valid by the time you’ve landed. Does anyone update apps on inflight wifi? Or if you choose not to roam to avoid excess charges, then you’re still going to need a bit of paper once you land.

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Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:46 am

anstar wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:

There is ongoing plans/discussion to remove these cards, however, I think the issue comes to declaring restricted/prohibited items - particularly quarantine. Hopefully will be gone soon enough!


Yeah i dont see how it cant be done through say the Qantas App or any other airlines app. Leave the paper forms there for people that dont have the desire to do so, but if it is lodged through the app on arrival, it could be coded to the little customs ticket and you could pass on through with one less form.


The US do it via the arrivals kiosks. Don’t the E kiosks here also ask the same questions?

The e-Kiosks only ask if you have been to Caribbean in past 7 days though there is no reason it couldn't be extended but you'd need a lot more of them if the number of questions is being extended. There is also the issue that some countries are ineligible to use the e-Kiosk so you need to keep a manual process also.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:08 am

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Yeah i dont see how it cant be done through say the Qantas App or any other airlines app. Leave the paper forms there for people that dont have the desire to do so, but if it is lodged through the app on arrival, it could be coded to the little customs ticket and you could pass on through with one less form.


I don’t think it could ever be included as part of an app tied to a particular airline as border security and customs is controlled by the federal government. Whilst the Gov could make a phone app for it, I think that the problem is that if you’re on a long haul flight and the app is updated during that time, it may not be valid by the time you’ve landed. Does anyone update apps on inflight wifi? Or if you choose not to roam to avoid excess charges, then you’re still going to need a bit of paper once you land.

Rgds,
C1973


The other thing to remember is ABF and Customs/biosecurity want you to fill it in while you are on the journey and know the exact contents of your luggage. If you can do it via an app days before it defeats the purpose, as people will not remember to go back and amend their declaration now that grandma gave them a surprise package with home-cooked food when farewelling at the airport... And with certain airlines not offering inflight wifi or many not tech-savvy to connect to free wifi everywhere they go, I don't think this is feasible.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:40 am

Air tanker accidentally dumps pink fire retardant on busy Canberra road near Anzac Parade

How often would this scenario occur? :eyebrow: Don’t know which aircraft it was..


Excerpt from the article:

“The air tanker was flying about 760 metres above the city when it hit turbulence at 3:30pm on Wednesday. The jolt caused it to drop 2,500 litres of chemical retardant at the base of Anzac Parade, which leads to the Australian War Memorial.”


Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/ ... d/11933942
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 am

You’d think a QANTAS WA base for flights into Europe would be a marketing Godsend at the moment.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 am

EK413 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
The unusual routing of QF6032 explained.

Why Qantas made this path from Wuhan

Speaking to news.com.au, aviation expert Neil Hansford said the route was likely due to the aircraft wanting to stay within international waters airspace.

“This flight was a charter and not a scheduled flight, so instead of going Malaysia and straight over Java … following the South China Sea meant they didn’t have to get any overfly approvals,” he said.

“This path means they would’ve missed the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, Malaysia and Indonesian airspace … which wouldn’t have wanted this plane to land.

“So instead, he (pilot) stayed out on international waters before coming into Australian air space. As soon as they got to Aussie airspace, they went directly to Learmonth.”


https://amp.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 51dc30230e


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The flight did go through both Philippine and Indonesia air space

https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/12245 ... 76705?s=20


This certainly puts that theory to rest

Have heard there could be a 2nd humanitarian service operated to WUH.


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The Australian Government has approached QF for another evacuation charter. Based on the imminent withdrawal of the QF flights on 09 Feb and the Chinese carriers cutting their flights.

The talk that I've heard that it could be potentially as soon as this weekend (using the same 744, VH-OEE). QF ops have told Canberra that it will do the flight to DRW only. This is due to QF finding 'operational issues' discovered landing in LEA.

Related to this, I heard on the news tonight our PM at a press conference telling Australians to get out of China while they still can.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:56 am

qf2220 wrote:
So have just done a trip back from NYC on QF12. Some random observations and questions:

1. The B789 is a nicely designed plane and a step up. The big windows are great, IFE is very good, cabin noise noticeably lower, and small things like tray table design are far more practical.
2. Accordingly, the A380 is still good but looks dated compared to the B789....
3. Are the crew pools the same for the US work? The JFK-LAX crew seemed more interested in pax than the LAX-SYD crew.
4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?


From what I understand they are different crew groups. I tend to agree the A380s are a little tired but hopefully, the refurb will help a little.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:14 pm

FL420FT wrote:
EK413 wrote:
qf789 wrote:

The flight did go through both Philippine and Indonesia air space

https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/12245 ... 76705?s=20


This certainly puts that theory to rest

Have heard there could be a 2nd humanitarian service operated to WUH.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


The Australian Government has approached QF for another evacuation charter. Based on the imminent withdrawal of the QF flights on 09 Feb and the Chinese carriers cutting their flights.

The talk that I've heard that it could be potentially as soon as this weekend (using the same 744, VH-OEE). QF ops have told Canberra that it will do the flight to DRW only. This is due to QF finding 'operational issues' discovered landing in LEA.

Related to this, I heard on the news tonight our PM at a press conference telling Australians to get out of China while they still can.


Not sure they have sufficient 744 available to do this without cancelling some flights, or canceling OEF retirement flight on Sunday.

Would they use an A380 and take it from HKG for a few days?

Meanwhile OEE is back in service operating QF25 to Tokyo.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:38 pm

Ryanair01 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
So have just done a trip back from NYC on QF12. Some random observations and questions:

1. The B789 is a nicely designed plane and a step up. The big windows are great, IFE is very good, cabin noise noticeably lower, and small things like tray table design are far more practical.
2. Accordingly, the A380 is still good but looks dated compared to the B789....
3. Are the crew pools the same for the US work? The JFK-LAX crew seemed more interested in pax than the LAX-SYD crew.
4. Has there ever been any consideration of online passenger entry cards instead of the paper ones we have?


From what I understand they are different crew groups. I tend to agree the A380s are a little tired but hopefully, the refurb will help a little.


I believe LAX-JFK-LAX is almost always BNE based crew, except occasionally when MEL or SYD crew are called out/have bidded for it/get the odd JFK here and there (more common now that mainline 747 don't do the JFK tag). Occasionally you get some AKL base crew doing patterns like AKL-BNE-LAX-JFK-LAX-BNE-AKL too. The LAX-SYD will also be predominately be SYD based 787/380 crew.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:58 pm

SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.

Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:00 pm

F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.

Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z

I would reckon they could go all 787-10 or if some flight times in particular has a large demand then they can add fifth daily and swapping out an existing flight with a smaller equipment

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:08 pm

F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.

Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z


I have always thought an A380 that arrives SIN early morning and departs late evening to from Europe could do a PER run in-between, im not saying they have had 1 single aircraft on the ground to do this in the past but they might now with HKG/China reductions. Only thing is a different product and Suites class. Maybe all 78J is more likely for now but do they really need 5 daily? Will a 5th daily add any new connection opportunities?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:23 pm

I believe Air New Zealand's AKL-EWR will be a GAME changer for Australia as it enables fast single terminal transfers in AKL to EWR like the current EZE, ORD, IAH, LAX, SFO & YVR services currently. It will be daily soon enough. From one trip report I've read ANZ's AKL-ORD flight is PACKED.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:21 pm

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:24 pm

F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.

Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z


SQ announcement will happen today and it’s said to also be announced with capacity increases to Europe, and North Asia. The premier is also set to announce initiatives to attract new airlines.

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/t ... 6976444039
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:47 pm

x1234 wrote:
I believe Air New Zealand's AKL-EWR will be a GAME changer for Australia as it enables fast single terminal transfers in AKL to EWR like the current EZE, ORD, IAH, LAX, SFO & YVR services currently. It will be daily soon enough. From one trip report I've read ANZ's AKL-ORD flight is PACKED.


It will be interesting to see what happens with AU traffic and what it might mean for the future SYD/MEL-ORD, JFK and possible GIG/GRU services.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:16 pm

F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.
Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?
https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z


Can't be an A380 can it? LOL

Anybody able to share the full text of this paywalled article?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:37 pm

CraigAnderson wrote:
F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.
Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?
https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z


Can't be an A380 can it? LOL

Anybody able to share the full text of this paywalled article?


Not full but at least some of it.

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/t ... 6976444039
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:00 am

rtav wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
F100Flyer wrote:
SQ looks set to announce an increase in capacity to PER, as kind of expected judging by apparent loads. Sorry, behind a paywall.
Any guesses? Upgauging aircraft or adding a 5th daily?
https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/si ... 881453118z


Can't be an A380 can it? LOL

Anybody able to share the full text of this paywalled article?


Not full but at least some of it.

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/t ... 6976444039


I think It will either be SQ223/214 upgrade to the A388 or a new service
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:33 am

x1234 wrote:
I believe Air New Zealand's AKL-EWR will be a GAME changer for Australia as it enables fast single terminal transfers in AKL to EWR like the current EZE, ORD, IAH, LAX, SFO & YVR services currently. It will be daily soon enough. From one trip report I've read ANZ's AKL-ORD flight is PACKED.


As long as the connections are kept short it would be ok, don’t think many people would want to spend more than an hour in AKL’s terminal. It’s definitely no Singapore / Hong Kong when it comes to transit airports.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:50 am

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Cathay Pacific is planning on reducing flights by 30% over their network in coming days. Are we likely to see Qantas and Virgin cut services to HKG?

VA will cease all HKG flying from March 2nd. It makes no money.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:08 am

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qf789 wrote:
Cathay Pacific is planning on reducing flights by 30% over their network in coming days. Are we likely to see Qantas and Virgin cut services to HKG?

VA will cease all HKG flying from March 2nd. It makes no money.


Is there a link to that info? I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s true, just wanting to read more.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:11 am

Virgin Australia axes SYD-HKG from March 2. So much for Borghetti's grand plans for China!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:17 am

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Virgin Australia axes SYD-HKG from March 2. So much for Borghetti's grand plans for China!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights

If you could've foreseen the Hong Kong political troubles and Coronavirus 2 years ago, you would never have tried but then again you would've also shorted the Hong Kong stockmarket massively and made a fortune too.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:29 am

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Virgin Australia axes SYD-HKG from March 2. So much for Borghetti's grand plans for China!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights


Were will the 332’s end up going now? Maybe something safer like SYD-DPS or SYD-AKL?

Do wonder how the BNE-HND services will do, would think most of Asia will experience an short-term down turn.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 am

zkncj wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Virgin Australia axes SYD-HKG from March 2. So much for Borghetti's grand plans for China!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights


Were will the 332’s end up going now? Maybe something safer like SYD-DPS or SYD-AKL?

Do wonder how the BNE-HND services will do, would think most of Asia will experience an short-term down turn.


Or so they double down on Japan, they won’t get another a slot for HND, but surely one to NRT would be easy enough to obtain.

Only other thing I can think of would be if SQ wanted to use an aircraft elsewhere, VA do a turn to SIN replacing one SQ flight.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:42 am

zkncj wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Virgin Australia axes SYD-HKG from March 2. So much for Borghetti's grand plans for China!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ng-flights


Were will the 332’s end up going now? Maybe something safer like SYD-DPS or SYD-AKL?

Do wonder how the BNE-HND services will do, would think most of Asia will experience an short-term down turn.


It will be put on domestic for the time being, SYD-AKL and SYD-DPS would be to much capacity without cutting frequency. Would think BNE will see more A332 trans con flights for the time being.

From what I have heard VA is happy with how HND tickets have gone so far. If the A332 goes back to international I think it should replace SA on PER-JNB, think That could be a good route for VA or even perhaps a seasonal PER-AKL
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:54 am

qf789 wrote:
From what I have heard VA is happy with how HND tickets have gone so far. If the A332 goes back to international I think it should replace SA on PER-JNB, think That could be a good route for VA or even perhaps a seasonal PER-AKL


An 3x weekly PER-AKL-JBN service with VA could do very well, especially if it was timed to an a332 meet it from SYD/MEL.
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