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Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:18 am

Air France has started to name it's fleet of planes when they started to take delivery of the Airbus 350-900. A few single aisle aircrafts have been christened too and the whole fleet should be named.
Here is a list of the currently named airplanes

Airbus 350-900
F-HTYA TOULOUSE
F-HTYB LYON
F-HTYC SAINT DENIS DE LA REUNION
F-HYTD NICE

Airbus 321-200
F-GTAQ CLERMONT FERRAND
F-GTAO BASTIA

Please complete the list as new planes are named

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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:24 am

@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:36 pm

A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


I suppose they're going for a "Air France" vibe and not an "Air Paris" one
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:56 pm

Really big fan of airlines naming aircraft. Gives them a little bit of a personal touch.

Agreed on Paris, I'm sure eventually there will be a 350 with that name. But it probably wouldn't be as popular or fun to follow if the Paris based, Paris hubbed company announced the name for their newest plane was....Paris.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:13 pm

A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Some of those cities are linked to famous french aviators or aviation...
Saint Denis de la Réunion is the birth place of Roland Garros
Lyon is the birth place of Antoine de St Exupéry

Clermont Ferrand is Michelin's city, most tires on airplanes are michelin...

Don't know about Bastia...
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:42 pm

A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Looks like the 350s are getting bigger cities or regional capitals, the 321s smaller cities?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:07 pm

Back in the day, the 707s were Chateaux I know, and Caravelles were Departements I think?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:00 pm

seat55a wrote:
Back in the day, the 707s were Chateaux I know, and Caravelles were Departements I think?

Funny you should mention that.

Many years ago, I flew on a Caravelle from ORY to ZRH. Of course, I never caught the registration, but I do remember her name ..... Artois. (A region / departement in northern France). From there it was easy to find the registration.

I agree with the above sentiment, naming aircraft adds a certain panache to the operation.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:42 pm

Here you go mes amis (Boeing 707s):
F-BHSA Château de Versailles. F-BHSG Château de Pau. F-BHSM Château de Sully. F-BHSS Château Ducal d’ Uzes
F-BHSB Château de Chambord. F-BHSH Château d’ Amboise. F-BHSN Château de Valençay. F-BHST Château de Chantilly
F-BHSC Château de Fontainebleau. F-BHSI. Château de Josseline. F-BHSO Château d’ Anet. F-BHSU Château de Versailles
F-BHSD Château de Chenonceaux. F-BHSJ Château de Chaumont. F-BHSP Château de Villandry. F-BHSV Château de Vincennes
F-BHSE Château de Rambouillet. F-BHSK Château de Visille. F-BHSQ Château de Compiègne. F-BHSX Château de Grignon
F-BHSF Château de Blois. F-BHSL Château de Maintenon. F-BHSR Château de Cheverny. F-BHSY Château de Luneville
F-BHSZ Château de Kerjean

Now, as for the Caravelles, Air France operated no less than fifty, c’est une très longue énumération, I suggest you google: « Webeugere- Noms des Caravelle d’ Air France » for the complete list.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:40 pm

seat55a wrote:
Back in the day, the 707s were Chateaux I know, and Caravelles were Departements I think?


Air France had started giving names to their A320s as well..I think they stopped after the Mulhouse-Habsheim accident when F-GFkC, named Ville d'Amsterdam, was lost after only 3 days in operation
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:55 am

F-GKXI was christened ROISSY EN FRANCE, First Airbus 320-200 to receive a name.

It is safe to say that all Airbus planes are getting French cities names.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:14 am

VSMUT wrote:
A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Looks like the 350s are getting bigger cities or regional capitals, the 321s smaller cities?


Lufthansa follows the same convention. Larger aircraft such as the A380/747 are named after larger cities.

It would be nice to see them pay tribute to some of their international destinations as well, like KLM, Ethiopian and Lufthansa does.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:29 am

FromCDGtoSYD wrote:
A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


I suppose they're going for a "Air France" vibe and not an "Air Paris" one


Maybe have Paris on a widebody and have 20 narrowbodies named after each of the arrondissements ?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:36 pm

I think naming a plane Roissy-en-France (the area that includes CDG) as stated above is a very elegant way of representing Paris on a plane without specifically saying “Paris.”

This idea is far from original but I think it’s a great one.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:13 pm

Airbus 321-200 F-GTAJ has received the name of the corsican city of AJACCIO
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:21 pm

All AF planes will have names ?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:39 pm

nicode wrote:
All AF planes will have names ?

I believe so, yes.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:02 pm

Nice to see AF follow LH's lead... All airlines should do this, IMHO.

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Re: Air France planes' names

Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:26 pm

I think BA should follow suit
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:52 am

is there a way to add the names in my original opening post ?
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:32 am

KLM named their aircraft since 1925.
The first plane in question was the Koolhoven FK-33 "Dikke Dirk" (also known as Fat Dirk). It is believed that whilst this was a wide aircraft the name was inspired by the aircraft registration number which included “DD”. The idea stuck and aircraft have been named by KLM ever since.
Typically the name is written in Dutch on the starboard side and in English on the port side.
The plane names are decided by a KLM board and have to be agreed upon many months in advance. Due to the manufacturing process the aircraft name has to be given to the plane builder roughly 8-12 months prior to delivery of the aircraft.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:02 pm

tonyflyboi wrote:
I think BA should follow suit

Some of the older BA planes do have names, mostly pre-1997, with some exceptions. However, the name is not painted anymore.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:39 pm

I love that aircraft are named; gives them a certain bit of a personality.
Also love the use of airline mascots. (Which recently have sadly been in decline.)
Air France's Hippocampus.
Air India's Maharajah
(The now defunct) Varig's Icarus
...etc
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:41 pm

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I think BA should follow suit


Not familiar with current naming conventions on British Airways but in the 1980s I travelled LHR - JFK on "City of Lancaster" Boeing 747-200
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:54 pm

Airbus 321-200 F-GMZE received the name of ROUEN
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:57 pm

So far this is the list of named planes.

Airbus 350-900
F-HTYA TOULOUSE
F-HTYB LYON
F-HTYC SAINT DENIS DE LA REUNION
F-HYTD NICE

Airbus 321-200
F-GTAQ CLERMONT FERRAND
F-GTAO BASTIA
F-GTAJ AJACCIO
F-GMZE ROUEN

Airbus 320-200
F-GKXI ROISSY EN FRANCE
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:16 pm

Nice ! Slightly off topic; all SAS planes also have names ; after old " vikings " > however when they got their first 747 ( a long time ago ) it was christened : "Huge Viking "- no such viking ever existed as far as one can tell - but it was named after the size of the aircraft > as Lufthansa seems to give names to large planes after larger cities.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:20 pm

A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Well - if you look at the French ZIP-Codes...there will most likely be no logic at all.. (couldn´t resist )
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:14 pm

Northpole wrote:
A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Well - if you look at the French ZIP-Codes...there will most likely be no logic at all.. (couldn´t resist )


Not sure I totally agree with you on this, at least not too illogical:
- Counties (departements) ranked by alphabetical order (01-XX),
- the remaining 3 digits for cities, 000 being the county's capital

ex: Lyon 69000, Rhone department (69) and largest city (000),
anyother city in the same county will be 69XXX

Happy to see more names slowly being rolled out!
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:38 pm

tonyflyboi wrote:
I think BA should follow suit

BA's Planes had names until the Utopia C/S was introduced (so during the Negus and Landor periods), with the exception of Concorde, which were just known as Alpha Alpha, Alpha Bravo etc.

IIRC, 747s were named after UK cities, while 767s were named after non-UK cities. 757s were named after Castles, 737s after Rivers, L10s after Bays (?). Can't remember off hand what the 1-11 and DC-10 fleets were named after.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:59 pm

Oh, please, please, please, Air France, buy an Antonov-2 and name it François Hollande.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:55 am

Wonder how far they’ll go with it. Of course no 380/340 will get a name, but how about the 777 fleet?

Either way, I wouldn't envy the ones responsible for naming 70 777s.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:53 am

Bhoy wrote:
tonyflyboi wrote:
I think BA should follow suit

BA's Planes had names until the Utopia C/S was introduced (so during the Negus and Landor periods), with the exception of Concorde, which were just known as Alpha Alpha, Alpha Bravo etc.

IIRC, 747s were named after UK cities, while 767s were named after non-UK cities. 757s were named after Castles, 737s after Rivers, L10s after Bays (?). Can't remember off hand what the 1-11 and DC-10 fleets were named after.

Starting from the other end; both BEA and BOAC stopped naming their aircraft sometime between the end of WWII and the arrival of the jet age, with the exception of the two rogue BOAC Viscounts G-AMOG/AMON which were "Scottish Prince" & "Scottish Princess" respectively.

Then in 1980 the first 737-236 arrived, along with the wretched idea that "British" was all you needed as a logo. :evil:

At this stage, these 737s were bare, but starting early/mid 1981 they were named after British rivers. (although G-BGJI "River Wey" was renamed "Swallow" during it's time with British Airtours, likewise 'JF was "Skylark")
Other types followed quickly, including L-1011 G-BFCD "The Astral Rose" whilst G-BEAK was "The Northern Lights Rose", unless it was flying for British Airtours when it became "Carmarthen Bay". (hence your confusion above)
Meanwhile 747s were a mix of historical figures, and British cities.e.g. G-AWNL became "Sir William Shakespeare", and G-BDXJ became "City of Birmingham"

Other types still in service at that time but destined to be withdrawn e.g. Tridents and 707s, remained as they were, unnamed.

And just to finish off, BA kept everyone guessing with their BAC-1-11s. The original batch of BAC-1-11s (the -510s, with all the cockpit switches upside down) soldiered on with a neat piece of script just where you would expect to see a name, except in every case it read "Super one eleven" :duck:
At the same time, the newest 1-11s (G-BGKE et seq) may have been the first BA a/c to receive names, back in 1980 if the photo database is to be believed., in the "County of....." sequence.
Eventually, and no doubt reluctantly, the remainder of the (older) 1-11 fleet were also named "County of...." or something similar (e.g "Lothian Region", "Bailiwick of Jersey" etc.)

On the left "Super one eleven", on the right "County of Kent"


Can I explain all of BA's inconsistencies - hell, no. :lol:

As regards Air France's naming conventions - I'll get around to that in another post. Maybe.
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:47 am

FGITD wrote:
Either way, I wouldn't envy the ones responsible for naming 70 777s.


International capital cities, incl. Paris?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:56 am

VSMUT wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Either way, I wouldn't envy the ones responsible for naming 70 777s.


International capital cities, incl. Paris?

777s are the international flagships - they should take up the scheme from the 707s. There must be at least 70 Chateaux in France. Each one is a subject of local pride and a good story about its place in history (no matter how small, or how ruinous it may appear to the eye, or how completely "rebuilt to historical plan" eg Suscinio).
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:13 am

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
Can I explain all of BA's inconsistencies - hell, no. :lol:

As regards Air France's naming conventions - I'll get around to that in another post. Maybe.


This was an informative post! Thank you.



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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:29 am

Newark727 wrote:
[a sixth name for her.

Pentagon City?
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:39 am

seat55a wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Either way, I wouldn't envy the ones responsible for naming 70 777s.


International capital cities, incl. Paris?

777s are the international flagships - they should take up the scheme from the 707s. There must be at least 70 Chateaux in France. Each one is a subject of local pride and a good story about its place in history (no matter how small, or how ruinous it may appear to the eye, or how completely "rebuilt to historical plan" eg Suscinio).



I think the flagship role is going to shift towards the 350s. Especially with the 772s likely to be on their way out sooner than later. The 350 is the newest, has all the modern amenities, and while it's clearly not a defining factor given AF's long history with Boeing... it's "French."

Would love to see the Chateaux names come back though. International city names would be great as well.. Start with the long time International destinations, etc.

At any rate, I'm just glad to see some airlines clearly taking a bit of pride in their fleet and creating some individuality.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:38 am

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Oh, please, please, please, Air France, buy an Antonov-2 and name it François Hollande.


Care to explain??
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Re: Air France planes' names

Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:46 am

AF773 wrote:
BREECH wrote:
Oh, please, please, please, Air France, buy an Antonov-2 and name it François Hollande.


Care to explain??


I think he is proposing that Air France should invest in a series of vintage aircraft ala Lufthansa, and name them after French leaders.
 
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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:23 am

A330Inter wrote:
Northpole wrote:
A330Inter wrote:
@AF Cabin Crew,
Do you know the logic behind the naming? Any sort of convention?
Surprised to not see Paris or Marseille but St Dennis or Clermont already?!


Well - if you look at the French ZIP-Codes...there will most likely be no logic at all.. (couldn´t resist )


Not sure I totally agree with you on this, at least not too illogical:
- Counties (departements) ranked by alphabetical order (01-XX),
- the remaining 3 digits for cities, 000 being the county's capital

ex: Lyon 69000, Rhone department (69) and largest city (000),
anyother city in the same county will be 69XXX

Happy to see more names slowly being rolled out!


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Re: Air France planes' names

Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:43 am

Bhoy wrote:
tonyflyboi wrote:
I think BA should follow suit

BA's Planes had names until the Utopia C/S was introduced (so during the Negus and Landor periods), with the exception of Concorde, which were just known as Alpha Alpha, Alpha Bravo etc.

IIRC, 747s were named after UK cities, while 767s were named after non-UK cities. 757s were named after Castles, 737s after Rivers, L10s after Bays (?). Can't remember off hand what the 1-11 and DC-10 fleets were named after.


The eight DC-10s were named after forests: Forest of Dean, Sherwood Forest, Benmore Forest, Forest of Ae, Glencap Forest, Epping Forest, New Forest and Cairn Edward Forest.

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