Spacepope wrote:dstblj52 wrote:Spacepope wrote:
I'm doubtful Amazon will make their airlift providers take on the A330, and Altavair's media blurb is wishful thinking at best. At many stations there is limited parking spots for freighters and if they're going to lose numbers because of the wide A330 wingspan, they'd be better off putting a 773P2F for more lift in the same parking spot.
But that's introducing a new container size into the system. Right now they can be nimble with the huge 767 fleet and send them to any station (and change up routes at will). I see more 767 conversions for the forseeable future/
There are not a huge number of 767's left in good conditions that don't have crazy cycles or wear on them most of the people who like to keep a new fleet have already sold theirs and anything else is going to start with an expensive d check and 30+ years of airline service, I think we will see some conversions but a good third of the 767 in operations are already with cargo or ACMI operators so there are probably only 100-200 aircraft that make sense to convert left so I suspect we ill see carriers move to used A330's probably mostly 200 at first over time due to their low purchase price and the large numbers available and an easy upgrade path over time.
I understand what you're saying and I used to think the same thing, however we've now seen ATSG sending airframes into conversion that have well over 110000 hours on the clock (but usually fewer than 20,000 cycles). Typical utilization for the Amazon leased 763s is around 3000 hours a year, so getting an additional 10-15 years service out of them isn't too difficult.
Spacepope hit the nail on the head. Amazon's operators have seemed to crack "the 767 code". They are operating older and higher timed 767Fs than most thought was possible 4-5 years ago. The airline has made industry people take a second look and say, "well I guess you CAN do that". The converters have promised a 15-20 year life cycle extension upon conversion completion. With that in mind, the 767F is perfectly placed for what it is being called upon to do. It is the right sized, right cost solution for what is needed and at this time is plug and play for Amazon.
I agree with others on a possible Skycourier order before anything else. Does anyone think that aircraft's linkage to FEDEX has Amazon steer clear?