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Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:45 pm

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RLd57o0IQ/

    Starting October 25 2020 on a A359. This will become a great new addition to low cost flying from Singapore to Europe like LOT and Turkish have done in recent years. It also helps that like Turkish Aeroflot flies to EVERY MAJOR CITY in Western and Eastern Europe from their Moscow hub. Aeroflot has become a HUGE Asia to Europe connector in recent years as they have also recently expanded to Mumbai and Osaka also.
     
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    Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

    Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:50 pm

    x1234 wrote:
      https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RLd57o0IQ/

      Starting October 25 2020 on a A359. This will become a great new addition to low cost flying from Singapore to Europe like LOT and Turkish have done in recent years. It also helps that like Turkish Aeroflot flies to EVERY MAJOR CITY in Western and Eastern Europe from their Moscow hub.


      I know SU has flown to SIN before, I have a photo of an Il-96 sitting at the gate next to our OZ 744. this must be a resumption or is it just that it's from SVO that makes it new?
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      Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

      Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:07 am

      My guess would be that yields were trashed by the ME3 and other connecting airlines, as well as by SQ itself, and it might also be possible that the distance was simply uneconomical to operate many years ago. But with the right airplane (in this case, the A359), Aeroflot's management believes it can capture enough of the premium market to once again offer a non-stop service.

      http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=SVO-SIN%2C+SVO-IST-SIN%2C+SVO-DXB-SIN%2C+SVO-DOH-SIN%2C+SVO-PEK-SIN%2C+SVO-HKG-SIN%2C+SVO-BKK-SIN&DU=mi&SU=kts&RS=best

      From what I am seeing online, seating will be 28J / 24E+ / 135E:

      https://onemileatatime.com/aeroflot-a350/

      Always great to see a new route open for an airline, even if it is a resumption or more service!
       
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      Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

      Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:14 am

      x1234 wrote:
        https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RLd57o0IQ/

        Starting October 25 2020 on a A359. This will become a great new addition to low cost flying from Singapore to Europe like LOT and Turkish have done in recent years. It also helps that like Turkish Aeroflot flies to EVERY MAJOR CITY in Western and Eastern Europe from their Moscow hub. Aeroflot has become a HUGE Asia to Europe connector in recent years as they have also recently expanded to Mumbai and Osaka also.


        Don't most nationalities have to buy an expensive short stay Russia visa if they want to transit?
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        Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

        Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:53 am

        zkojq wrote:
        x1234 wrote:
          https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RLd57o0IQ/

          Starting October 25 2020 on a A359. This will become a great new addition to low cost flying from Singapore to Europe like LOT and Turkish have done in recent years. It also helps that like Turkish Aeroflot flies to EVERY MAJOR CITY in Western and Eastern Europe from their Moscow hub. Aeroflot has become a HUGE Asia to Europe connector in recent years as they have also recently expanded to Mumbai and Osaka also.


          Don't most nationalities have to buy an expensive short stay Russia visa if they want to transit?


          Not anymore, although there are some airports that required one (i.e. IKT, KHV) as those airport doesn't have a sterile transit area.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:04 am

          PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
          My guess would be that yields were trashed by the ME3 and other connecting airlines, as well as by SQ itself, and it might also be possible that the distance was simply uneconomical to operate many years ago. But with the right airplane (in this case, the A359), Aeroflot's management believes it can capture enough of the premium market to once again offer a non-stop service.

          http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=SVO-SIN%2C+SVO-IST-SIN%2C+SVO-DXB-SIN%2C+SVO-DOH-SIN%2C+SVO-PEK-SIN%2C+SVO-HKG-SIN%2C+SVO-BKK-SIN&DU=mi&SU=kts&RS=best

          From what I am seeing online, seating will be 28J / 24E+ / 135E:

          https://onemileatatime.com/aeroflot-a350/

          Always great to see a new route open for an airline, even if it is a resumption or more service!


          Cannot be 135 E. That would be less than 200 seats on a a359.

          Likely something like 250 Y seats would make sense.
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:36 am

          SQ used to run Houston-Moscow-Singapore but moved the 5th freedom stop to Manchester IIRC a couple of years ago.
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:15 am

          FlyingSicilian wrote:
          SQ used to run Houston-Moscow-Singapore but moved the 5th freedom stop to Manchester IIRC a couple of years ago.


          It is now Singapore - Moscow - Stockholm. Moscow is DME, not SVO. I have done both IAH and ARN from Singapore. The transit works but is a not a pleasant experience. I also noted people from an EK flight doing a transit during one of my trips.
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:17 am

          Great news! How's the first class on the Aeroflot A350?
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:27 am

          Great news , anything TK can do , Aeroflot can do too , Moscow is a perfect location

          Aeroflot has always transferred passengers from Europe to Asia for decades but clearly they’re beefing up transfer action ( probably inspired by TKs enormous success )

          EU 27 now get evisas to St Petersburg and Moscow is rumoured to be in the pipeline . The World Cup Visa free travel experiment worked really well . It’s going to be easier for EU citizens to visit Moscow than the USA within the next 12 months . Game set and match to Mr Putin yet again
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:58 am

          Antarius wrote:
          PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
          My guess would be that yields were trashed by the ME3 and other connecting airlines, as well as by SQ itself, and it might also be possible that the distance was simply uneconomical to operate many years ago. But with the right airplane (in this case, the A359), Aeroflot's management believes it can capture enough of the premium market to once again offer a non-stop service.

          http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=SVO-SIN%2C+SVO-IST-SIN%2C+SVO-DXB-SIN%2C+SVO-DOH-SIN%2C+SVO-PEK-SIN%2C+SVO-HKG-SIN%2C+SVO-BKK-SIN&DU=mi&SU=kts&RS=best

          From what I am seeing online, seating will be 28J / 24E+ / 135E:

          https://onemileatatime.com/aeroflot-a350/

          Always great to see a new route open for an airline, even if it is a resumption or more service!


          Cannot be 135 E. That would be less than 200 seats on a a359.

          Likely something like 250 Y seats would make sense.


          I'm going by what I found. I have literally NO idea if that is the entire plane or not - time will tell. But I agree that less than 200 isn't likely to prove profitable.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:24 am

          The configuration is 28 Business Class, 24 Premium Economy Class and 264 Economy Class, for a total of 316 seats.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:04 am

          Brilliant news and I think the new livery on the A350 isn't all that bad. As for SU's European network, just like Istanbul, Moscow has a lot of O&D demand which made it easier to boost frequencies on many destinations, both primary and secondary. Let's see if this actually affects LO's WAW-SIN to a certain extent, I think I read somewhere that the route isn't performing all that well.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:22 pm

          With addition of KIX, SIN, NRT->HND switch and China boost (4x PKX+2xPVG+CAN+HKG is huuuge) SU network to Asia is pretty much complete. Next step should be SFO I think, maybe with some India.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:46 pm

          RWA380 wrote:

          I know SU has flown to SIN before, I have a photo of an Il-96 sitting at the gate next to our OZ 744. this must be a resumption or is it just that it's from SVO that makes it new?


          They used to fly to SIN with the IL-96 via BKK. They also had fifth freedom between SIN and BKK. They stopped that sector around the SARS crisis
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:01 am

          blandy62 wrote:
          RWA380 wrote:

          I know SU has flown to SIN before, I have a photo of an Il-96 sitting at the gate next to our OZ 744. this must be a resumption or is it just that it's from SVO that makes it new?


          They used to fly to SIN with the IL-96 via BKK. They also had fifth freedom between SIN and BKK. They stopped that sector around the SARS crisis


          Thanks for the info, must have been the thing to do (stop in BKK) our OZ flight did as well, very pleased we flew J, there was also a BI DC-10-30 flight going to BKK around the same time, late evening, like 9-11 pm.
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:19 am

          RWA380 wrote:

          Thanks for the info, must have been the thing to do (stop in BKK) our OZ flight did as well, very pleased we flew J, there was also a BI DC-10-30 flight going to BKK around the same time, late evening, like 9-11 pm.


          I missed the chance at that time to fly the IL-96. Yes you are right BG used to fly to SIN Via BKK at that time too . There were a lots of fifth fifth freedom flights between SIN and BKK at that time: Swissair, finnair....
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:38 am

          Have used Aeroflot a couple of times to China. Worked out pretty well.

          Historically Aeroflot has by far the best pricing on singles if you got yourself in a position that you needed one.
           
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          Re: Aeroflot annouces Moscow to Singapore (SVO-SIN)

          Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:10 am

          And before the Il-96 there was the Il-62 SIN-DEL-SVO

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