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Bamboo Airways Plans To Buy 12 Boeing 777Xs Worth $5 Billion

Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:08 am

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(Pretty sure that image is a concept for Bamboo Airways' 777X?)

Yesterday, Bamboo Airways and Boeing had a meeting discussing the 777X's potential for the airline.

Sharing the cooperation strategy between the two parties, Mr. Dang Tat Thang - Standing Vice President and General Director of Bamboo Airways said that the business is very interested in Boeing's newly launched aircraft.

"The Boeing 777-X meets all the criteria we set for the long-haul flight, especially the US route. Bamboo Airways and Boeing will continue to discuss and discuss in-depth discussions to calculate cooperation options. The expectation of both is to arrive at Boeing 777-X orders as soon as possible, "said Dang Tat Thang.


Additionally, Bamboo Airways expects to launch a direct Vietnam to U.S. flight by 2021.

Pretty interesting move as they already expect to receive 30 787-9s.

https://vnexpress.net/kinh-doanh/bamboo ... 52024.html
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:12 am

Although I am confident in Vietnam economic growth, Im afraid they tend to over-order
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:49 am

I give bamboo 2-3 years tops. 77X? Maybe try to carve out a niche before ordering the expensive Gucci toys guys.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 am

Bamboo should learn to walk before running marathons. Whilst ambitions and huge growth targets are admirable, committing to that many 789's let alone 779's is surely over-doing things before they've even operated had a single long-haul service.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:04 am

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Bamboo should learn to walk before running marathons. Whilst ambitions and huge growth targets are admirable, committing to that many 789's let alone 779's is surely over-doing things before they've even operated had a single long-haul service.


Exactly.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:24 am

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Pretty sure that image is a concept for Bamboo Airways' 777X?
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The engine's nacelle is non-chevron, the fuselage is obviously long, so YES it is a Bamboo 779 illustration...
...redesigned from this old 789 illustration :lol:
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:29 am

A nice illustration from Boeing about the range of the 789 and 777X-brothers from HAN-Bamboo's hub.
Looks like Boeing is very serious at this deal.

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Let's wait for that will FLC (QH's parent group) make the deal happen in Singapore Airshow the next few days ;).
I will not surprised or triggered if QH converts some of 20 789s in its not-firmed MoU with Boeing.
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:13 am

Antaras wrote:
A nice illustration from Boeing about the range of the 789 and 777X-brothers from HAN-Bamboo's hub.
Looks like Boeing is very serious at this deal.

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Let's wait for that will FLC (QH's parent group) make the deal happen in Singapore Airshow the next few days ;).
I will not surprised or triggered if QH converts some of 20 789s in its not-firmed MoU with Boeing.


Interesting to see the 778 MTOW at 788000-lb, while Wikipedia still has it at 775000-lb. It seems that the design of the 778 was put on hold at a different iteration than when Wikipedia was last updated.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:23 pm

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Interesting to see the 778 MTOW at 788000-lb, while Wikipedia still has it at 775000-lb. It seems that the design of the 778 was put on hold at a different iteration than when Wikipedia was last updated.

The 777-8 is still in the design phase. There was no real airframe was built. Everything is on paper. It's still ok now for Boeing to make further modification and improvement for this model, including increasing the MTOW and even the range.
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Bamboo would be better off flying their 787-9 to SFO before trying a 777-9. Another option would be to buy some 777-200LR's, Qatar or Emirates would happily sell some of those unwanted oddball planes.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:44 pm

tomcat wrote:
Antaras wrote:
A nice illustration from Boeing about the range of the 789 and 777X-brothers from HAN-Bamboo's hub.
Looks like Boeing is very serious at this deal.

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Let's wait for that will FLC (QH's parent group) make the deal happen in Singapore Airshow the next few days ;).
I will not surprised or triggered if QH converts some of 20 789s in its not-firmed MoU with Boeing.


Interesting to see the 778 MTOW at 788000-lb, while Wikipedia still has it at 775000-lb. It seems that the design of the 778 was put on hold at a different iteration than when Wikipedia was last updated.


Just wondering, how would the A350-1000 and 1000 ULR fit in those graphics?.
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:49 pm

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tomcat wrote:
Interesting to see the 778 MTOW at 788000-lb, while Wikipedia still has it at 775000-lb. It seems that the design of the 778 was put on hold at a different iteration than when Wikipedia was last updated.

The 777-8 is still in the design phase. There was no real airframe was built. Everything is on paper. It's still ok now for Boeing to make further modification and improvement for this model, including increasing the MTOW and even the range.


Sure, I understand that. The reason why I find it interesting is that the 775,000-lb MTOW is the 77W MTOW and so far I thought that it was a MTOW that they couldn't exceed with the 777X due to landing gear limitations (related to pavement loading I understand). Boeing has obviously found a way to overcome that limit and this offers new perspectives to the 777X. After all, she has a bigger wing than the 77W, she has plenty of margin in terms of engine thrust, it would be a shame to not be able to make use of all this potential just because of a landing gear limitation. This being said, as it is, the 777X already is the largest aircraft in production today if one omits the soon to be gone quads still being produced. So there is probably no urgent need to push her MTOW further up.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:09 pm

Is any Vietnam-USA route other than LAX-SGN really going to be viable?

It seems like blocking twenty seats on a 787-9 would be a much quicker and cheaper way of testing fares and viability.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:19 pm

Sorry to say, but this starts to get silly. Bamboo Airlines has commenced service one year ago, someone has now to learn to crawl first, before they can start to run...against the next wall.

To build up a full service LCC airline from scratch is...interesting. But to start to order B777X, when just the first 3 of already 30 ordered widebodies have been delivered...is just:
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:32 pm

VN was rumoured to acquire 777Xs a while ago but has not yet done so, it seems a big move for a start up competitor to get them first.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:33 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Bamboo would be better off flying their 787-9 to SFO before trying a 777-9. Another option would be to buy some 777-200LR's, Qatar or Emirates would happily sell some of those unwanted oddball planes.

Well I think that the 77L is not efficient enough with QH, isn't it?
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:36 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
VN was rumoured to acquire 777Xs a while ago but has not yet done so, it seems a big move for a start up competitor to get them first.

I think VN scrapped the 778/35K plans and it will use its existing A350-900s instead.
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:25 pm

Would make sense if they want to offer a nonstop to IAH. Huge Vietnamese community in the area. The A350 might also have the legs for it.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:47 pm

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Would make sense if they want to offer a nonstop to IAH. Huge Vietnamese community in the area. The A350 might also have the legs for it.



It's not even 1/2 the size of SoCal's, and you'd have to overfly LAX to get to IAH. This is how foolish capital allocation decisions are made.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/chart/t ... opulation/
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:04 pm

Antaras wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Pretty sure that image is a concept for Bamboo Airways' 777X?
Image


The engine's nacelle is non-chevron, the fuselage is obviously long, so YES it is a Bamboo 779 illustration...
...redesigned from this old 789 illustration :lol:
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// Picture by N14AZ shared on 'Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019' thread somedays 7 months ago.


Thanks for the clarification! I knew the 777X image looked familiar lol
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:07 pm

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Is any Vietnam-USA route other than LAX-SGN really going to be viable?

It seems like blocking twenty seats on a 787-9 would be a much quicker and cheaper way of testing fares and viability.


Definitely agree. It may not even perform that poorly much of the time - obviously the yield potential is much different, but UA seems to operate SFO-SIN on the 789 with fairly few restrictions and LAX-HAN or LAX-SGN is hundreds of miles shorter. I can't imagine Bamboo needing US flights outside of Bay Area or SoCal for quite some time.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:19 pm

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jetlaggedAF wrote:
Would make sense if they want to offer a nonstop to IAH. Huge Vietnamese community in the area. The A350 might also have the legs for it.



It's not even 1/2 the size of SoCal's, and you'd have to overfly LAX to get to IAH. This is how foolish capital allocation decisions are made.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/chart/t ... opulation/


Sure but I'd imagine there would eventually be plenty of competition on the SoCal - Vietnam routes. Those stats show TX with the 2nd biggest Vietnamese population. It might not be as big as SoCal but it might be large enough to support a flight. Connecting through LAX is an absolute nightmare compared to flying out of IAH. They wouldn't be the first carrier to make a choice to do both (NZ and BR come to mind).
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:21 pm

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jetlaggedAF wrote:
Would make sense if they want to offer a nonstop to IAH. Huge Vietnamese community in the area. The A350 might also have the legs for it.



It's not even 1/2 the size of SoCal's, and you'd have to overfly LAX to get to IAH. This is how foolish capital allocation decisions are made.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/chart/t ... opulation/


Sure but I'd imagine there would eventually be plenty of competition on the SoCal - Vietnam routes. Those stats show TX with the 2nd biggest Vietnamese population and we're not even counting communities in markets that could be served from IAH like southern LA. It might not be as big as SoCal but it might be large enough to support a flight. Connecting through LAX is an absolute nightmare compared to flying out of IAH. They wouldn't be the first carrier to make a choice to do both (NZ and BR come to mind).
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:27 pm

UA & SQ already fly with the NORMAL B789/A359 SFO-SIN. jayunited said UA blocks off 2 rows of seats on the B789 during winter. LAX-SGN is SHORTER THAN SFO-SIN and their A359 and B789 can already make it with near full payload. What's the catch now that Vietnam is FAA Category 1 certified. They don't need to order anything else.
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:11 pm

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Those stats show TX with the 2nd biggest Vietnamese population. It might not be as big as SoCal but it might be large enough to support a flight. Connecting through LAX is an absolute nightmare compared to flying out of IAH. They wouldn't be the first carrier to make a choice to do both (NZ and BR come to mind).

Traffic between the United States and Vietnam is all low yield VFR and vacation. Transiting LAX may be "an absolute nightmare" (I don't agree btw), but for a family of four or more, saving literally as little as $50 a head to go via LAX on a cheaper option than a nonstop from Houston adds up to a saving of $200 or more. If that's coming out of the traveller's pocket, they'll take the indirect route every time. $200 to spend a couple of hours at LAX waiting for a connection? Sign me up. So there is very little advantage for an airline to offer a nonstop. This isn't harried execs where the office is paying.
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Does not the current 773ER do it for them b4 they jump into the big-league with 77Xs?
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:35 pm

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Does not the current 773ER do it for them b4 they jump into the big-league with 77Xs?


Not if they want a new one. The 777-300ER is just about finished now. By the time you could get it delivered, 777Xs should be entering service anyway.
 
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Interesting to see the 778 MTOW at 788000-lb, while Wikipedia still has it at 775000-lb. It seems that the design of the 778 was put on hold at a different iteration than when Wikipedia was last updated.

Keep in mind that Boeing was still modifying the 778 in response to the QF "Sunrise" order... so maybe that's what they were offering it at at the time, and haven't (or possibly don't intend to) lowered the weight back down?



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777-200LR's, Qatar or Emirates would happily sell some of those unwanted oddball planes.

What evidence do you have that either airline finds those "unwanted?"



x1234 wrote:
UA & SQ already fly with the NORMAL B789/A359 SFO-SIN. jayunited said UA blocks off 2 rows of seats on the B789 during winter. LAX-SGN is SHORTER THAN SFO-SIN and their A359 and B789 can already make it with near full payload. What's the catch now that Vietnam is FAA Category 1 certified. They don't need to order anything else.

Those are also both airlines with a significant amount of premium seats in said aircraft.

There's no way in hell an airline flying Vietnam-USA nonstop would be able to fill that amount of J seats at typical market rates; so it's doubtful they'd be configured with such a premium layout, meaning they'll be heavier due to density, increasing the likelihood of seat blocking on the westbound if not both ways.



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I think VN scrapped the 778/35K plans and it will use its existing A350-900s instead.

IINM, VN plans to use the 789 for its US nonstops.
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:41 pm

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Bamboo would be better off flying their 787-9 to SFO before trying a 777-9. Another option would be to buy some 777-200LR's, Qatar or Emirates would happily sell some of those unwanted oddball planes.


Wasn't Vietnam one of those countries which forbids buying aircraft older than a certain age?
 
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jfk777 wrote:
Bamboo would be better off flying their 787-9 to SFO before trying a 777-9. Another option would be to buy some 777-200LR's, Qatar or Emirates would happily sell some of those unwanted oddball planes.


Wasn't Vietnam one of those countries which forbids buying aircraft older than a certain age?


Yes it is (source: http://vietnamlawmagazine.vn/air-transp ... 16946.html)

For passenger transportation, the age of a used aircraft must not exceed 10 years counting from the release date to the date of import into Vietnam under a purchase or hire-purchase contract; or not exceed 20 years counting from the release date to the time of expiration of the hire contract. The age of used helicopters must not exceed 25 years.


I also want to know why the 77Ls are the "unwanted oddballs"... They may not be that highly efficient anymore, but they're still an essential part of EKs and QRs fleets. For example Qatar couldn't operate it's longest flight to AKL (except using their A380s, but they'll leave the fleet anyway) or Emirates would have some problems in flying to new markets to test out the demand and then upgrade onto a 77W/A380 (e.g. their new MEX flights are served by 77Ls)
 
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:39 pm

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marcogr12 wrote:
Does not the current 773ER do it for them b4 they jump into the big-league with 77Xs?


Not if they want a new one. The 777-300ER is just about finished now. By the time you could get it delivered, 777Xs should be entering service anyway.

Not that you could likely get one of those delivered any faster...
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Just to put things into perspective. Air China cannot even manage daily service to Hanoi from beijing prior to the recent troubles. And bamboo think they can fill 777 to America? What are they smoking? Where is the business demand to make this work?

The one stop economy class fares are so low. They can't really undercut anyone.
 
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Since in this post about Boeing several people already mentioned Airbus let me ask this question. Who here that has doubts would be singing the same tune if this was the A350 in question?
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Just to put things into perspective. Air China cannot even manage daily service to Hanoi from beijing prior to the recent troubles. And bamboo think they can fill 777 to America? What are they smoking? Where is the business demand to make this work?

The one stop economy class fares are so low. They can't really undercut anyone.


Yup, I don't even believe that QH will be able to fill up a 280-300 seats-789 in the SGN-LAX route. Now QH is planning to operate the 350-seat-778.
"Cannot fill up the plane" is the big problem. That's the reason why Vietnam Airlines (a 60 years old carrier) delayed to launch SGN-SoCal even when VN has a dozen of 789s and A359s, why Bamboo Airways - a ONE YEARS OLD carrier is so confident that it will fill up a 778?
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Since in this post about Boeing several people already mentioned Airbus let me ask this question. Who here that has doubts would be singing the same tune if this was the A350 in question?

I mean the 777X is the largest wide body currently on sale. The 35K is more likened to the 77W in size which would still be shocking but more understandable
 
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Since in this post about Boeing several people already mentioned Airbus let me ask this question. Who here that has doubts would be singing the same tune if this was the A350 in question?

The A359 is slightly smaller than the 778, more economical as it is easier to be filled up than a 778 => more suitable for QH.
However, if QH considers A350-1000, nah.....................
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The new WB market is soft, and predicted to soften further, even before CV. The used market is soft, even though it's being propped up a little by RR engine woes.

Unless you are are acquiring new / nearly new from desperate owners or OEM, wait.

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Is any Vietnam-USA route other than LAX-SGN really going to be viable?

It seems like blocking twenty seats on a 787-9 would be a much quicker and cheaper way of testing fares and viability.


IAD-SGN because there is a large refugee population but they might not want to go to Saigon again
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Yesterday Bamboo uploaded a post with a link on Facebook said that the carrier was studying the 777X.
Today that post was removed ???
Wait what is happening ?????????
Some kind of 're-consideration' or it was just a joke ???
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Did Boeing ask them to take it down? Talking about buying a 777X after too many beers at the bar is one thing. Stating it when Boeing has no part in it is another. Boeing is going to be managing their reputation very carefully now.
 
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Did Boeing ask them to take it down? Talking about buying a 777X after too many beers at the bar is one thing. Stating it when Boeing has no part in it is another. Boeing is going to be managing their reputation very carefully now.

I don't know. The link attached with the post is from a reputable Vietnamese newspaper, similar with the link attached with the first post of this topic. Is it better for Boeing asking those newpapers to remove those posts :D. Those articles (the one that Bamboo attached and the one in this thread) are still online.
The link that QH shared (in Vietnamese): http://cafef.vn/bamboo-airways-dang-tim-hieu-dong-may-bay-moi-nhat-cua-boeing-cho-duong-bay-thang-viet-my-2020020806282272.chn?fbclid=IwAR01lV1YBOlKqwkejZ-7pkrXLL9ddomFqjGfwnUO2b3dha5vkLEFUTVq2Xc
It's kinda you know. You just announced that "I will spend billions buying new stuff and slap all of my enemies" and then the next day you pretend that nothing happened :D
P/s: this is the second time that Bamboo eyes 778. The last time was 2 years ago, when Bamboo wasn't launched. :D Another joke, you know.
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:57 am

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Did Boeing ask them to take it down? Talking about buying a 777X after too many beers at the bar is one thing. Stating it when Boeing has no part in it is another. Boeing is going to be managing their reputation very carefully now.


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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:32 am

This is their response:

Im sorry that it was just the first argument between Boeing and Bamboo Airways about Boeing 777x. At the moment, no official statement has been made
 
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:11 am

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Since in this post about Boeing several people already mentioned Airbus let me ask this question. Who here that has doubts would be singing the same tune if this was the A350 in question?


Funnily enough, I do believe people would be questioning flying to the USA from Vietnam with an A350 if the operator in question has literally just started, when even the national carrier with every advantage and the equipment already in place has yet to start. Flying the largest available aircraft is obviously going to get a lot of skepticism, and I don't see why you're so upset about people being skeptical.
 
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:05 pm

Ishrion wrote:
This is their response:

Im sorry that it was just the first argument between Boeing and Bamboo Airways about Boeing 777x. At the moment, no official statement has been made


Something lost in translation there? Did they mean discussion rather than ‘argument’?
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Re: Bamboo Airways Is Interested In The 777X For Vietnam to U.S. Flights

Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:08 am

We're getting closer. Bamboo Airways expects to buy 12 777Xs worth $5 billion in Q2 2020

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... anes-quyet
 
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*Triggered*: Bamboo Airways plans $5 billions order for 12 777Xs

Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:44 am

Tomato sauce from Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-17/bamboo-airways-in-talks-to-buy-12-boeing-777x-planes-quyet
As expected, in 2Q2020 Bamboo will spend about $5 billion to order a dozen of 777X (unknown variants). Besides that, no one knows that will this be an LOI, MoU or a firm order.

Bamboo's order book
Firmed orders: 10x Boeing 787-9
MoUs:
20 Boeing 787-9
24 Airbus A321neo

Bamboo's fleet
Airbus A319ceo: 1
Airbus A320ceo: 9 (-3 wet-leased from Freebird)
Airbus A320neo: 5
Airbus A321ceo: 3
Airbus A321neo: 4
Boeing 787-9: 3 + 1
Total: 25 + 1

All are leased


Last few weeks we were discussing Bamboo's interest and now,......
I'm panic of this 1-year-old carrier :o :confused: :ziplip:
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Re: Breaking: Bamboo Airways plans $5 billions order for 12 777Xs

Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:54 am

While i'm confident in Vietnam economic growth, I think Bamboo Airways is over-ordering here. 30 787-9 + 12 777X, that's a lot of seats to fill for such a new airline.

But I won't complain if they launch new European destinations.
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Re: Breaking: Bamboo Airways plans $5 billions order for 12 777Xs

Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:56 am

Wow! Vietnamese aviation continue to grow. Big congrats to Bamboo and Vietnam.
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Re: Breaking: Bamboo Airways plans $5 billions order for 12 777Xs

Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:05 am

LaunchDetected wrote:
While i'm confident in Vietnam economic growth, I think Bamboo Airways is over-ordering here. 30 787-9 + 12 777X, that's a lot of seats to fill for such a new airline.

But I won't complain if they launch new European destinations.

They will launch Hanoi-Prague in the next few weeks, with Munich and Australia in consideration.
Anyway, 30 787-9 + 12 777X is quite too big and it is hard for QH to fill those seats.
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