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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:45 pm

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Wow such a scary touch and go just then from a BA A320. Such a slow landing and approach, tough touch down, and then took off again unexpectedly.

*BA 777.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:46 pm

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timeously - did Ciara blow that in from somewhere non-English speaking?? USA, perhaps! :bigthumbsup:


It's a Scottish word meaning "to make good time" or "to be on time". :thumbsup:
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:48 pm

If anyone has a video of that BA B777* go around I'd love to watch again!

EZY with an emergency of the peak district... probably fuel again
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:58 pm

BA82 trying again for its 2nd attempt now...

Intense squall line now approaching LHR, so I think visibility and landing conditions will deteriorate, as well as light.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:03 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... et-US.html

At least it's helping set record for the fastest Atlantic crossing...
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:05 pm

EZY8402
Squawking 7700
Diverted to MAN after holding for LGW for about an hour
Local source says low Fuel

https://fr24.com/EZY8402/23ce8a8a

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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:08 pm

JannEejit wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
timeously - did Ciara blow that in from somewhere non-English speaking?? USA, perhaps! :bigthumbsup:


It's a Scottish word meaning "to make good time" or "to be on time". :thumbsup:

You learn something every day! I was born and brought up in Scotland and must confess that I never heard or read this word before, or ameringue? :lol:
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:26 pm

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airkas1 wrote:
Clackers wrote:
LATAM diverted to BCN

Can't be that low on fuel after all then.


That's what I thought. Good news though.

Come on guys... Low on fuel doesn't mean the tanks were about to run dry. Means it was getting to a point where it was close to fall below the legally required fuel for its planned diversion, wherever that may be. If BCN it is, that means it has enough fuel to fly over 2 hours still (fly to BCN + hold for 30 minutes).
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:32 pm

The number of go arounds at AMS are growing. 18C and 18R will probably be closed. Expect many delays at AMS. Landing at 22 now

KL1386 tried twice on 18 C https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM1386/23ceaa0b
HV6706 https://www.flightradar24.com/TRA6L/23ce85c0

After 2 times 18C and once 22, KL1386 managed to land at 18C.... glad I'm not on that plane.
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:32 pm

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7983919/British-Airways-records-fastest-transatlantic-flight-Storm-Ciara-blows-jet-US.html

At least it's helping set record for the fastest Atlantic crossing...

I have seen it yesterday "life" on Twitter; There were several planes with 760, 780, one B777 with 792 and one B747 with 802....

Germany, regional Airport Paderborn-Lippstadt is now closed for Sunday and whole Monday.
Airport Muenster Osnabrueck: All cancelled for today, with exception of one start and two landings.
Hamburg: Perhaps half are cancelled till now, seems the same for Hanover now., also around half
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:38 pm

Amsterdam is being destroyed now, the weather has worsened.

About to happen to LHR too.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:41 pm

This isn't going to line up properly butt here goes with where I've seen UK diversions go, sorted by where the aircraft ended


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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:41 pm

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[...]

Oh, I know. But if someone says ‘low on fuel’, I assume in general. If the phrase is along the lines of ‘fuel for one more attempt’ that’s different.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:59 pm

To check now London Heathrow is "interesting" on Flightradar 24.
BA715 /BAW715T G-EUPO from Zurich to London, second attempt to land failed, is now turning north-east and now south.
BA409 /BAW96VC G-EUYU from Valencia to London, first try has just failed,

e.g.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:04 pm

How bad is DUB being impacted or was impacted?
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:05 pm

Here are some GFS forecasts, each referring to the UTC time in the upper right hand corner of the pic:

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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:13 pm

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Here are some GFS forecasts, each referring to the UTC time in the upper right hand corner of the pic:

United already cancelled two early morning arrivals into LHR from ORD for tomorrow, and it is probably only the beginning.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:26 pm

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Clackers wrote:
AngelsDecay wrote:
Going straight to where..!?


Think it was MAD, but may have changed now.


Definitely not MAD, currently over the Belgium-Germany border heading ESE.

I originally thought it was going to FRA but it's still at FL390 in an area where most TATL flights into FRA are already well into their descent.

Maybe it's going to MUC as well.


My deepest apologies...i thought UK was also in Europe...OP wrote diverting now to Europe
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:28 pm

Multiple go arounds from runway 22 at AMS right now. EZY3005 from STN is on attempt #3 and UX1093 just went around also.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:41 pm

Has Gatwick closed, does not appare to be any movement
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:45 pm

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Multiple go arounds from runway 22 at AMS right now. EZY3005 from STN is on attempt #3 and UX1093 just went around also.


UX1093 had second missed approach and EZY3005 has done some sight seeing north of Amsterdam and is currently climbing and flying back to the UK.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:45 pm

sassiciai wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
timeously - did Ciara blow that in from somewhere non-English speaking?? USA, perhaps! :bigthumbsup:


It's a Scottish word meaning "to make good time" or "to be on time". :thumbsup:

You learn something every day! I was born abd brought up in Scotland and must confess that I never heard or read this word before, or ameringue? :lol:


Lived here all my life, heard it and used it all my life too. Possibly a regional peculiarity.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:50 pm

Are any BA flights from either Dallas fort worth or Phoenix cancelled for monday yet? (Flying sunday night) I've already had my Saturday night flight cancelled.

What is the weather looking like for monday morning arrivals? Thanks everyone
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:58 pm

JannEejit wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
JannEejit wrote:

It's a Scottish word meaning "to make good time" or "to be on time". :thumbsup:

You learn something every day! I was born abd brought up in Scotland and must confess that I never heard or read this word before, or ameringue? :lol:


Lived here all my life, heard it and used it all my life too. Possibly a regional peculiarity.


I heard it a few years ago from an older chap (I've also lived in Scotland most of my life) and now use it all the time too.

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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:10 pm

marcelh wrote:
76er wrote:
Multiple go arounds from runway 22 at AMS right now. EZY3005 from STN is on attempt #3 and UX1093 just went around also.


UX1093 had second missed approach and EZY3005 has done some sight seeing north of Amsterdam and is currently climbing and flying back to the UK.


UX1093 is also diverting after its 3rd attempt (this time 18C).
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:25 pm

airkas1 wrote:
blueflyer wrote:
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Oh, I know. But if someone says ‘low on fuel’, I assume in general. If the phrase is along the lines of ‘fuel for one more attempt’ that’s different.


It is ironic it seems only FR/W6 divert to Stansted from other London airports. Wouldn't it make more sense for the likes of United or LATAM to divert to STN? For London-based passengers (most of them) it would be just an inconvenience compared to the nightmare of being diverted to AMS or BCN.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:31 pm

LJ wrote:
marcelh wrote:
76er wrote:
Multiple go arounds from runway 22 at AMS right now. EZY3005 from STN is on attempt #3 and UX1093 just went around also.


UX1093 had second missed approach and EZY3005 has done some sight seeing north of Amsterdam and is currently climbing and flying back to the UK.


UX1093 is also diverting after its 3rd attempt (this time 18C).


EZY6853 is diverting to FRA after one attempt and HV5820 is also heading FRA after 3rd attempt.

EZY3005 (STN-AMS) has just landed @STN
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:41 pm

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It is ironic it seems only FR/W6 divert to Stansted from other London airports. Wouldn't it make more sense for the likes of United or LATAM to divert to STN? For London-based passengers (most of them) it would be just an inconvenience compared to the nightmare of being diverted to AMS or BCN.

Airlines tend to divert where they have existing operations and/or partners who can support their customers. For UA, that means BRU and FRA are the most logical choices if they can't land at LHR, followed by AMS and CDG. For LATAM, BCN or MAD are the logical choices.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:48 pm

ORY is landing on runway 20, which is extremely uncommon.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:49 pm

blueflyer wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
It is ironic it seems only FR/W6 divert to Stansted from other London airports. Wouldn't it make more sense for the likes of United or LATAM to divert to STN? For London-based passengers (most of them) it would be just an inconvenience compared to the nightmare of being diverted to AMS or BCN.

Airlines tend to divert where they have existing operations and/or partners who can support their customers. For UA, that means BRU and FRA are the most logical choices if they can't land at LHR, followed by AMS and CDG. For LATAM, BCN or MAD are the logical choices.


I get it, but for passengers it would be much more convenient to be diverted to Stansted and (worst case scenario) being +1 hour by train further away to their final destination that just being stuck in Amsterdam or Barcelona.
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:51 pm

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UX1093 is also diverting after its 3rd attempt (this time 18C).


And heading for Madrid? (already south of Paris)
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:56 pm

Gatwick has a full closure at present not seen anything announced officially as of yet, only what flightradar is showing
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:07 pm

marcelh wrote:
LJ wrote:
UX1093 is also diverting after its 3rd attempt (this time 18C).


And heading for Madrid? (already south of Paris)

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Yes. The aircraft has to depart to Latin America this evening and now they don't have to cancel that flight.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:03 pm

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Gatwick has a full closure at present not seen anything announced officially as of yet, only what flightradar is showing

LGW isn't closed, but with the majority of European outbound flights cancelled earlier there aren't the return inbounds arriving.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:20 pm

Austrian operating a 777 to Heathrow tonight.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:01 pm

Strong winds expected in the UK tommorow and Tuesday too.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:18 pm

That was ...some... turbulence for UX1093. The Dreamliner tried to land 5 times at AMS according to this article and some passengers were quite hysterical aboard the aircraft

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederla ... en-kotsten (in Dutch, includes video)
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:23 pm

Biman Bangladesh due to depart LHR 7 hours late, although nobody believes this is to do with the weather ;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:28 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
That was ...some... turbulence for UX1093. The Dreamliner tried to land 5 times at AMS according to this article



I can only see 3 approaches at AMS with it getting down to 1450 feet at it's lowest point looking at the FR24 playback.. I thought 3 attempts at landing at a given airport was the maximum number allowed?
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:42 pm

David_itl wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
That was ...some... turbulence for UX1093. The Dreamliner tried to land 5 times at AMS according to this article



I can only see 3 approaches at AMS with it getting down to 1450 feet at it's lowest point looking at the FR24 playback.. I thought 3 attempts at landing at a given airport was the maximum number allowed?


There were only 3 attempts. The first two at 22 the last time at 18C. I followed this one as at the time there were a lot of diversions and it was one of the few widebodies trying to land at the time.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:44 pm

Brocken, Germany, now top speed 165 km/h, 20 min ago, top 167 km/h.
https://www.wetter.de/deutschland/aktuelle-wind-karte-deutschland-c49.html
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:56 pm

Apparently CNN is claiming via FR24 that it was the fastest subsonic flight between NYC-London ever. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/brit ... index.html
Currently at PIE, requesting FWA >> >>
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:17 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
That was ...some... turbulence for UX1093. The Dreamliner tried to land 5 times at AMS according to this article and some passengers were quite hysterical aboard the aircraft

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederla ... en-kotsten (in Dutch, includes video)

I guess someone wasn’t too happy with the turbulence.....
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:20 pm

even a small airport like Luxemburg has problems with incoming traffic. LG 3838 from Madrid already failed the third time. Now Danish Air Transport DX 126 diverted from Saarbruecken to Lux give it try
 
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Re: Storm Clara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm

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If anyone has a video of that BA B777* go around I'd love to watch again!

EZY with an emergency of the peak district... probably fuel again


There it is: https://twitter.com/BigJetTVLIVE/status ... 4420985856
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:14 am

Out of the 20 largest airports in the UK there were 72 diversions

https://twitter.com/airportwebcams/stat ... 97472?s=21
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:17 am

Large amount of cancellations

LHR 472
LGW 333
AMS 247
BHX 101
EDI 85
MAN 74

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statu ... 89152?s=21
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:34 am

PANAMsterdam wrote:
That was ...some... turbulence for UX1093. The Dreamliner tried to land 5 times at AMS according to this article and some passengers were quite hysterical aboard the aircraft

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederla ... en-kotsten (in Dutch, includes video)


Wow, that passengers's screams are nightmare-inducing. That poor woman. Must have been a hell of a ride.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:51 am

Quite the cancellations in Germany and Switzerland too this morning.
 
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Re: Storm Ciara over Europe - Impact on Aviation

Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:50 am

Heavy snow in Scotland along with expected winds of up to 60mph today will lead to blizzard conditions. I wonder how EDI and GLA will fare in this.

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